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(CNN)   8.7 million pounds of beef recalled. Most fondly by your mom   (cnn.com) divider line 40
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2014-02-09 10:47:02 AM
These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-02-09 11:14:04 AM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?


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2014-02-09 11:18:22 AM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?


I'll get the lights.
 
2014-02-09 11:21:01 AM
The old lady's "Where's the beef?" query has FINALLY been answered. Took long enough.

/Well played, Pocket Ninja .
 
2014-02-09 11:22:48 AM
That's my favorite "your mom" headline ever.
 
2014-02-09 11:23:55 AM
 
2014-02-09 11:28:42 AM
This was not done "under full inspection". There aren't enough inspectors to watch every processing plant, the job creators have seen to that. They might get inspected twice a year.
 
2014-02-09 11:28:43 AM
Yes "Your mom" jokes still make me laugh. I'm 12
 
2014-02-09 11:29:14 AM
Fondley is more like it.
 
2014-02-09 11:31:45 AM
Because I'm sometimes bad at reading, I caught the headline as:
8.7 million pounds of beef recalled. Most found in your mom
 
2014-02-09 11:34:32 AM
The beef was processed a month ago.   Wouldn't it already have been "consumed" by now?
 
2014-02-09 11:47:04 AM
Your mom beefs. It saves time.
 
2014-02-09 11:47:10 AM

stuhayes2010: This was not done "under full inspection". There aren't enough inspectors to watch every processing plant, the job creators have seen to that. They might get inspected twice a year.


Lie.
 
2014-02-09 11:54:47 AM
FTFA: The FSIS recall notice indicates a "reasonable probability" that consumption could result in "serious, adverse health consequences or death."

How do you process 9 million pounds of bad meat without somebody at that company going to jail?  It's one thing to do a shoddy job of something and try and pass it off, but with food that could kill people.. our system is pretty messed up if nobody goes to jail over this.

At what point do we hold the companies who purchase this meat responsible for policing their own supply chain? If it's a constant game to find the cheapest product, and you're eventually creating a supply market that isn't regulated, why aren't grocery stores held responsible for the end product?

At what point is vigilante justice justified?
 
2014-02-09 11:55:15 AM

abhorrent1: Yes "Your mom" jokes still make me laugh. I'm 12


This one was fairly well done you have to admit.
 
2014-02-09 11:55:38 AM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?


Tip o the hat to you, sir
 
2014-02-09 12:01:10 PM
I'm gonna be that guy and say, "You can do better, Pocket."
 
2014-02-09 12:05:23 PM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?




Neocons like you make me sick. Don't you care about the disenfranchised that people like you have ignored for decades? Your username has ninja in it so I would expect you to understand what it's like as an Asian living as a second class citizen in America.
 
2014-02-09 12:10:37 PM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?


Right up to the Obamacare reference, that could have been a The Harper Government press release from when they diddled with inspections in Canada.
 
2014-02-09 12:13:45 PM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?


betterpropaganda.com

All this meat and cheese/
is makin' me feel quees-y.
 
2014-02-09 12:15:32 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?

Neocons like you make me sick. Don't you care about the disenfranchised that people like you have ignored for decades? Your username has ninja in it so I would expect you to understand what it's like as an Asian living as a second class citizen in America.


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2014-02-09 12:23:10 PM

FnkyTwn: FTFA: The FSIS recall notice indicates a "reasonable probability" that consumption could result in "serious, adverse health consequences or death."

How do you process 9 million pounds of bad meat without somebody at that company going to jail?  It's one thing to do a shoddy job of something and try and pass it off, but with food that could kill people.. our system is pretty messed up if nobody goes to jail over this.

At what point do we hold the companies who purchase this meat responsible for policing their own supply chain? If it's a constant game to find the cheapest product, and you're eventually creating a supply market that isn't regulated, why aren't grocery stores held responsible for the end product?

At what point is vigilante justice justified?


Why do you hate Freedom 2.0?
 
2014-02-09 12:24:25 PM

pissnmoan: That's my favorite "your mom" headline ever.


Subby's mom's favorite is five pounds of shaved ham.
 
2014-02-09 12:27:08 PM

gnosis301: I'm gonna be that guy and say, "You can do better, Pocket."


Perfect is an asymptote.  You can never get there, you can only get a little closer to it.  Ergo, EVERYBODY can do better, so I am going to assume that your statement was merely commentary on the futility of achieving perfection given that it can never be achieved no matter how good you may appear to be.
 
2014-02-09 12:28:04 PM

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?



Neocons like you make me sick. Don't you care about the disenfranchised that people like you have ignored for decades? Your username has ninja in it so I would expect you to understand what it's like as an Asian living as a second class citizen in America.


Is this a meta troll, or did PN score again?

Farkers, you be the judge...
 
2014-02-09 12:44:13 PM

Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?


I know you've gotten several kudos for your rant.  But you couldn't be more wrong.  The government has every right to set standards for quality,  uniformity of measure, description, etc.  Because meat processing plants have gotten so large and because they are so far removed (on every level) from consumers and because the average consumer has no idea what constitutes quality meat - hell, most of them don't have a clue where meat comes from; the government has every right to impose standards.  Where regulations become onerous is when they impose huge costs that do absolutely nothing to improve quality, purity, or food safety.  Just as an example, the procedures for cleaning the kill floor in a slaughter facility fill a couple hundred pages.  Very little of that has to do with the actual cleaning, let alone with standards of cleanliness.  Most of it is procedural and describes not only the processes but the voluminous documentation to certify the process.  The final rinse, for example, must be done at a certain temperature.  But not only does the plant need to make sure the temperature is correct, the person checking the temperature of the water needs to be authorized and trained to take the temperature and documentation of said training must be kept on file and training must be re-certified periodically.  Every temperature reading must be documented and kept in a log book.  There are also detailed regulations for maintenance of log books.

As to this particular case, it appears they were running without an inspector.  That's the illegal part.  Contrary to

stuhayes2010: This was not done "under full inspection". There aren't enough inspectors to watch every processing plant, the job creators have seen to that. They might get inspected twice a year.

, every single carcass for beef, veal, pork, and lamb must be individually inspected and stamped.  The exception to that is if I take my own hog to the slaughter facility and have it processed for my own consumption (in which case every single package must be marked "Not For Sale").  Even then, the animal must appear healthy and be able to walk on its own onto the kill floor.  So this facility was operating in flagrant disregard for the law.

Quite honestly, I have no idea if there is even the least thing wrong with the meat that is being recalled.  The fact that the plant was operating without inspection is reason enough to recall every pound of meat.  The fact that this plant paid for the animals, paid their workers, paid all of the overhead (except for the inspection fee - yes, the processor pays the salary of the inspector) and has nothing to sell in order to recoup the expense is a pretty steep punishment.  I wouldn't be surprised if there are also stiff fines that are associated with this.  And that's as it should be.

Most processors welcome inspection because it assures customers who would otherwise have no way of knowing that their meat is good.  What those same processors rankle under is the unnecessary cost of compliance that goes with it.

One more example.  In our area, there was a small packing plant that was very popular with small farmers and with knowledgeable meat buyers.  They did a great business in custom processing, they were licensed and inspected to provide meat for retail, they had knowledgeable butchers who could fabricate a carcass in whatever way the customer wanted, and they truly understood the concept of customer service.  Their standards would have been high with or without inspection.  They went out of business last year.  Not because they did something wrong.  Not because they poisoned anybody's food supply.  They went out of business because the old man who owned it wanted to sell the business and retire and the USDA regulations would not permit the sale of the business without about $500,000 of mandated equipment replacements and improvements.  His kids nor his employees could swing the cost of those improvements and still operate at a profit.

Bear in mind, this facility had been passing inspection every day for 75 years.  Every standard for quality and purity was met on a daily basis.  But because it would have been changing hands, it would not be allowed to continue operating - in a safe and clean manner - without a wholesale change at great expense.  So the old man lost his equity that he could have used for retirement, 25 people lost their jobs, the community lost its tax base, and the customers lost a great source for meat and a great place to have their livestock processed for sale.  In my own case, I now have to haul my livestock an additional 25 miles.  How, exactly, have the USDA regulations that mandate shutting down a perfectly good operation that has been consistently producing top notch products and has never failed an inspection, made your food supply even one tiny bit better?
 
gja [TotalFark]
2014-02-09 12:48:18 PM

Mr. Right: Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of h....

I know you've gotten several kudos for your rant.  But you couldn't be more wrong.\


OMFG, WTL;DR

Either this a new level of troll or...
static1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-02-09 01:04:02 PM

Mr. Right: Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?

I know you've gotten several kudos for your rant.  But you couldn't be more wrong.  The government has every right to set standards for quality,  uniformity of measure, description, etc.  Because meat processing plants have gotten so large and because they are so far removed (on every level) from consumers and because the average consumer has no idea what constitutes quality meat - hell, most of them don't have a clue where meat comes from; the government has every right to impose standards.  Where regulations become onerous is when they impose huge costs that do absolutely nothing to improve quality, purity, or food safety.  Just as an example, the procedures for cleaning the kill floor in a slaughter facility fill a couple hundred pages.  Very little of that has to do with the actual cleaning, let alone with standards of cleanliness.  Most of it is procedural and describes not only the processes but the voluminous documentation to certify the process.  The final rinse, for example, must be done at a certain temperature.  But not only does the plant need to make sure the temperature is correct, the person checking the temperature of the water needs to be authorized and trained to take the temperature and documentation of said training must be kept on file and training must be re-certified periodically.  Every temperature reading must be documented and kept in a log book.  There are al ...


If he didn't score on the neocon, he scored here. :)
 
2014-02-09 01:14:44 PM
Is this the beef I ate 3 months ago?

Or is it the beef in the freezer with the smudged, completely illegible label?
 
2014-02-09 01:23:31 PM

gnosis301: I'm gonna be that guy and say, "You can do better, Pocket."


Second. Not long winded enough.
 
2014-02-09 01:27:44 PM
+1 to  Subby, however. I lol'd.
 
2014-02-09 01:35:39 PM

a_room_with_a_moose: detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: Pocket Ninja: These kinds of recalls wouldn't happen if we got rid of tyrannical government regulations. Now we're just going to have a bunch of hysterical people out there refusing to buy perfectly edible beef, and thus one more blow is dealt to the foundering ship that is capitalism. When that grand old lady finally sinks, liberals, remember that you don't get to complain about rises in her place. You. Don't. Get. To. Complain. Besides, what was the point of Obamacare, anyway? People have health care coverage now, remember? Why are we worried if their burger gives them a tummyache?

Neocons like you make me sick. Don't you care about the disenfranchised that people like you have ignored for decades? Your username has ninja in it so I would expect you to understand what it's like as an Asian living as a second class citizen in America.

Is this a meta troll, or did PN score again?

Farkers, you be the judge...


I gotta say meta troll, and a good one it is! PN did catch a couple further down though.
 
2014-02-09 01:37:58 PM
Jesus H. Farking Christ! Can you people stop kissing pocket ninja ass? He really isn't that funny.
 
2014-02-09 01:48:25 PM
I wonder what was actually wrong with the beef, other than it not being properly inspected?

/make it to spam and donate it Best Korea.
 
2014-02-09 02:05:37 PM
+1 subby.
 
2014-02-09 02:11:11 PM
I don't get it. is it you mom wants 8.7 million pounds of penises back? I don't even see the joke here. are they erect of flaccid. are they African-American or Caucasian?
 
2014-02-09 03:02:54 PM
Bwahahahaha!  Nice, subby!
 
2014-02-09 03:05:08 PM
Enjoying my local grass fed beef from my pedestal.

/enjoy your antibiotics, peasants
 
2014-02-09 03:23:53 PM
Meh.

Cook it a little longer and hope it doesn't have any CNS bits in it.  Life's short.  Live it accordingly.
 
2014-02-10 03:41:56 PM
I laughed. A lot. Nice job, subber.
 
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