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(TV By the Numbers)   Network formerly known as American Movie Classics orders new reality series starring the LA KISS arena football club owned by KISS. "The fact that the team has rock and roll royalty in the owner's box just adds another great dimension to the series"   (tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com) divider line 51
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2014-02-09 12:12:19 AM  
AMC went the way of the other niche networks quite early as I recall. I can remember way back when they played "Bachelor Party" for the first time. I mean, I think it's a classic but I'm not really sure everyone would agree.
 
2014-02-09 12:22:12 AM  
All the reasons that once existed for getting cable are now the same reasons to not bother with it

/except sports
//you're gonna have to pay more to watch your circuses, citizens
///and for your bread
 
2014-02-09 12:24:23 AM  

fusillade762: AMC went the way of the other niche networks quite early as I recall. I can remember way back when they played "Bachelor Party" for the first time. I mean, I think it's a classic but I'm not really sure everyone would agree.


Anyone with taste agrees.

30 years later, and it's still gutbustingly farking hilarious.

//fark 'LA KISS'. 3 years, at most, before it collapses. Stupid idea on par with the XFL.
 
2014-02-09 12:31:15 AM  

contrapunctus: fusillade762: AMC went the way of the other niche networks quite early as I recall. I can remember way back when they played "Bachelor Party" for the first time. I mean, I think it's a classic but I'm not really sure everyone would agree.

Anyone with taste agrees.

30 years later, and it's still gutbustingly farking hilarious.


Nick the Dick agrees.
 
2014-02-09 12:32:34 AM  
I remember when AMC was all old black and white movies, except for the occasional colorized one.

/KISS sucks
 
2014-02-09 12:33:52 AM  
Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with
 
2014-02-09 12:38:47 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with



They were in separate conferences.  And a city as large as L.A., like NYC, is capable of supporting two teams.  Except one of the NYC teams plays in New Jersey, yet the market is still New York.  New York is the only market to have two teams in each of the four major sports leagues in the US.

Giants / Jets
Knicks / Nets
Yankees / Mets
Rangers / Islanders
 
2014-02-09 12:41:48 AM  
On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for any intellectually-oriented television programming drops to zero.
 
2014-02-09 12:42:12 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with


1. Yes
2. It's the one of the biggest cities in the country and they easily supported them both...for awhile.
3. No, there's only one team per city unless you count the Giants and Jets who both claim to be from NY but play in NJ.
4. Yes they were in different conferences.

/the divisions exist for playoff seeding primarily, also cuts travel expenses...pretty much all pro sports use a similar format
 
2014-02-09 12:43:59 AM  
So does Alice Cooper own a much better arena football team?
 
2014-02-09 12:44:24 AM  

SithLord: B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with


They were in separate conferences.  And a city as large as L.A., like NYC, is capable of supporting two teams.  Except one of the NYC teams plays in New Jersey, yet the market is still New York.  New York is the only market to have two teams in each of the four major sports leagues in the US.

Giants / Jets
Knicks / Nets
Yankees / Mets
Rangers / Islanders


But only one good team.
 
2014-02-09 12:58:33 AM  
next thing you know they'll have a series about zombies or something.
 
2014-02-09 12:59:33 AM  
Arena Football is the only sport where the coach stands in the field of play.
 
2014-02-09 01:00:48 AM  
img.photobucket.com

You were the chosen one!  It was said you would destroy TLC, not join them!
 
2014-02-09 01:02:55 AM  

Bane of Broone: SithLord: B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with


They were in separate conferences.  And a city as large as L.A., like NYC, is capable of supporting two teams.  Except one of the NYC teams plays in New Jersey, yet the market is still New York.  New York is the only market to have two teams in each of the four major sports leagues in the US.

Giants / Jets
Knicks / Nets
Yankees / Mets
Rangers / Islanders

But only one good team.


www.russianmachineneverbreaks.com

Behold your glorious, golden, hockey god.
 
2014-02-09 01:18:18 AM  
Okay, AMC. Hear me out.

If you're going to continue ruining television, I want to help. So here's what I propose:

You get Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, and you let them run a bank. Set them up with some nervous tycoon-type who can't stand any of their ideas. They're constantly arguing with each other over every topic from big to little.

And you call it "Juggaloans." It's a surefire hit.
 
2014-02-09 01:24:34 AM  

SithLord: contrapunctus: fusillade762: AMC went the way of the other niche networks quite early as I recall. I can remember way back when they played "Bachelor Party" for the first time. I mean, I think it's a classic but I'm not really sure everyone would agree.

Anyone with taste agrees.

30 years later, and it's still gutbustingly farking hilarious.

Nick the Dick agrees.


Remember, biatches back in 45 minutes, or Milt cuts your balls off.
 
2014-02-09 01:34:40 AM  

GreenAdder: Okay, AMC. Hear me out.

If you're going to continue ruining television, I want to help. So here's what I propose:

You get Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, and you let them run a bank. Set them up with some nervous tycoon-type who can't stand any of their ideas. They're constantly arguing with each other over every topic from big to little.

And you call it "Juggaloans." It's a surefire hit.


That's insane. Stop being a clown.
 
2014-02-09 01:47:49 AM  
Is there ANY reason to watch TV anymore? I mean, besides background noise?
 
2014-02-09 01:56:03 AM  
Unless Gene Simmons' wife is going to be directing/producing the cheerleaders in a string of tawdry, low-budget, softcore porn movies like she used to star in herself, I can't think of any reason to watch this show.
 
2014-02-09 01:59:29 AM  
Did someone take a hot iron to Paul Stanleys face and melt all the plastic surgery or something?
 
2014-02-09 02:00:10 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Is there ANY reason to watch TV anymore? I mean, besides background noise?


24.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-09 02:01:36 AM  

Abacus9: I remember when AMC was all old black and white movies, except for the occasional colorized one.



... and with no commercial interruptions.  As part of my "basic" cable package.

I'd often leave AMC on all day throughout the late-1980s/early 1990s, as my default "background noise" channel ... enjoying countless hours of classic movies.  It was glorious.


Until Ted Turner suddely realized that he owned the broadcast rights to most of the movies AMC was playing, and decided to launch his own classic movie channel (luring away most of AMC's hosts, while he was at it).

Which might have been all-well-and-good ... except for the fact that -- for several years, thereafter -- TCM wasn't even offered by my cable company ... and -- when it finally was -- it was part of a "premium" cable tier that cost ~$30 extra, per month, beyond the "basic" package (which itself had risen to nearly twice what I'd paid in the 1980s).


During those intervening years, I built a collection of hundreds of classic movies on Laserdisc and DVD.  I finally ditched cable TV a few years ago ... and now I just watch those DVDs, instead.
 
2014-02-09 02:05:43 AM  

Gyrfalcon: Is there ANY reason to watch TV anymore? I mean, besides background noise?


(looks like Chrome ate my Weeners)

I don't turn on my TV these days without also using my AppleTV, for movies and sometimes Agents of SHIELD.

But with my 90 year old grandmother staying with us, and me working nights and being home during the day, I overhear a lot of daytime network TV.  The ads are obviously meant for people too old to work.
 
2014-02-09 02:06:10 AM  
I'm reminded yet again why I canceled my cable subscription...
 
2014-02-09 02:09:16 AM  

B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with


Chicago had two teams up until 1960 when the Cardinals moved to St. Louis.  Similarly, New York City had two football teams until they both moved to New Jersey in 2010.

As for the conferences, it's similar to Major League Baseball.  Both leagues are the result of the merger of two separate leagues (the American and National Leagues joining together in 1902 and the National Football League and the American Football League forming the NFL in 1970).  Then NFL one was straightforward; the formation of modern major league baseball was an ongoing thing with various other leagues like Federal League up until about the 30's.
 
2014-02-09 02:14:34 AM  

noazark: Abacus9: I remember when AMC was all old black and white movies, except for the occasional colorized one.


... and with no commercial interruptions.  As part of my "basic" cable package.

I'd often leave AMC on all day throughout the late-1980s/early 1990s, as my default "background noise" channel ... enjoying countless hours of classic movies.  It was glorious.


Until Ted Turner suddely realized that he owned the broadcast rights to most of the movies AMC was playing, and decided to launch his own classic movie channel (luring away most of AMC's hosts, while he was at it).

Which might have been all-well-and-good ... except for the fact that -- for several years, thereafter -- TCM wasn't even offered by my cable company ... and -- when it finally was -- it was part of a "premium" cable tier that cost ~$30 extra, per month, beyond the "basic" package (which itself had risen to nearly twice what I'd paid in the 1980s).


During those intervening years, I built a collection of hundreds of classic movies on Laserdisc and DVD.  I finally ditched cable TV a few years ago ... and now I just watch those DVDs, instead.


The good old days. I remember around 1990 when I first heard of Comedy Central, it's all I watched. It's much different now.

Alphax: If there's a farker named Chrome...

JosephFinn: The Cardinals were originally from Chicago? I never knew that.
 
2014-02-09 02:15:49 AM  
I've got it. You get Billie Joe Armstrong, Mike Dirnt, Tre Cool and Jason White. And you make them watch a room full of toddlers. It's "Green Day Care," every Monday at 7/6 Central.
 
2014-02-09 02:17:28 AM  

Semper IvXx: B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with

1. Yes
2. It's the one of the biggest cities in the country and they easily supported them both...for awhile.
3. No, there's only one team per city unless you count the Giants and Jets who both claim to be from NY but play in NJ.
4. Yes they were in different conferences.

/the divisions exist for playoff seeding primarily, also cuts travel expenses...pretty much all pro sports use a similar format


Interesting. So did the Rams and Raiders ever play against each other when they were in L.A. since they were in different conferences? I find the idea of that fascinating. With multiple teams in a huge city I guess that each team attracts fan bases in different parts of the city. So what communities of L.A. did the Rams attract vs. the Raiders?
 
2014-02-09 02:23:51 AM  

Alphax: (looks like Chrome ate my Weeners)


Ouch.
 
2014-02-09 02:26:31 AM  

Robo Beat: On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for any intellectually-oriented television programming drops to zero.


I am Jack's shiatty reality show.
 
2014-02-09 02:34:42 AM  
I realize niche programming is now an antiquated notion, but damn it, AMC, you opted to cancel compelling fare like Rubicon and The Killing for crap like this?
 
2014-02-09 02:42:01 AM  

Apos: I realize niche programming is now an antiquated notion, but damn it, AMC, you opted to cancel compelling fare like Rubicon and The Killing for crap like this?


Oh please, The Killing was laborious, navel gazing garbage, and Rubicon's characters were so flat and uninteresting it didn't really matter if they saved the day or not.
 
2014-02-09 02:44:26 AM  
Abacus9 I remember when AMC was all old black and white movies, except for the occasional colorized one.

Then your mind won't be blown when you realize their AMC's original host played the doomed professor who leaves the tape recording explaining how he unleashed "The Evil Dead"...his monologue was punched up by The Coen Bros.
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0099694/

Abacus9 JosephFinn: The Cardinals were originally from Chicago? I never knew that.

Everybody's from somewhere else. The L.A. Lakers actually began as a Detroit team, hell, the only original team now in Detroit are The Tigers, Pistons(Fort Wayne), Red Wings(Victoria BC Canada) & Lions(Portsmouth, OH Spartans)
 
2014-02-09 03:13:08 AM  
www.hayspost.com

Better Call Paul

/hot hot hot
 
2014-02-09 03:23:30 AM  

FlyingJ: Abacus9 I remember when AMC was all old black and white movies, except for the occasional colorized one.

Then your mind won't be blown when you realize their AMC's original host played the doomed professor who leaves the tape recording explaining how he unleashed "The Evil Dead"...his monologue was punched up by The Coen Bros.
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0099694/

Abacus9 JosephFinn: The Cardinals were originally from Chicago? I never knew that.

Everybody's from somewhere else. The L.A. Lakers actually began as a Detroit team, hell, the only original team now in Detroit are The Tigers, Pistons(Fort Wayne), Red Wings(Victoria BC Canada) & Lions(Portsmouth, OH Spartans)


Okay, you did blow my mind with the Lakers thing. I'm from Detroit, and I had to look it up. First they went to Minneapolis, which is I guess why they renamed themselves the Lakers. Here they were the Gems.

Actually, Michigan has more lakes than Minnesota. They have 10,000, we have 12,000.
 
2014-02-09 03:32:46 AM  

Trocadero: Apos: I realize niche programming is now an antiquated notion, but damn it, AMC, you opted to cancel compelling fare like Rubicon and The Killing for crap like this?

Oh please, The Killing was laborious, navel gazing garbage, and Rubicon's characters were so flat and uninteresting it didn't really matter if they saved the day or not.


So might as well make reality shows?

Not every show is going to be a hit, but Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead and to some extent Hell on Wheels have been worthwhile ventures. I hate to see them shift focus to short term cash grab style programming that most cable networks have settled for.
 
2014-02-09 04:45:06 AM  
yeah, another awsome channel ruined, Thought the original show was good long ago but they were still truely American Movie Classics then , Remember Wenn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remember_WENN
 
2014-02-09 04:56:01 AM  

MayoSlather: Trocadero: Apos: I realize niche programming is now an antiquated notion, but damn it, AMC, you opted to cancel compelling fare like Rubicon and The Killing for crap like this?

Oh please, The Killing was laborious, navel gazing garbage, and Rubicon's characters were so flat and uninteresting it didn't really matter if they saved the day or not.

So might as well make reality shows?

Not every show is going to be a hit, but Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Walking Dead and to some extent Hell on Wheels have been worthwhile ventures. I hate to see them shift focus to short term cash grab style programming that most cable networks have settled for.


Hate all you want.  All roads lead to the same place.

robsmovievault.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-09 07:02:13 AM  

Abacus9: GreenAdder: Okay, AMC. Hear me out.

If you're going to continue ruining television, I want to help. So here's what I propose:

You get Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, and you let them run a bank. Set them up with some nervous tycoon-type who can't stand any of their ideas. They're constantly arguing with each other over every topic from big to little.

And you call it "Juggaloans." It's a surefire hit.

That's insane. Stop being a clown.


Maybe we will learn about magnets and how they work.
 
2014-02-09 09:47:11 AM  

SithLord: B.L.Z. Bub: Since we're on the subject of football (sort of) in L.A., I have a noobish question. Remember when L.A. had two NFL teams, the Rams and the Raiders? How in the world did that happen? Is that a thing that happens from time to time? I know next to nothing about football, but I'm curious. You would think there could only be one team per city. Were they in different conferences or something?

/The NFL conferences confuse me. Like, I don't understand why they exist to begin with


They were in separate conferences.  And a city as large as L.A., like NYC, is capable of supporting two teams.  Except one of the NYC teams plays in New Jersey, yet the market is still New York.  New York is the only market to have two teams in each of the four major sports leagues in the US.

Giants / Jets
Knicks / Nets
Yankees / Mets
Rangers / Islanders


They both play in NJ
 
2014-02-09 10:01:55 AM  

GreenAdder: Okay, AMC. Hear me out.

If you're going to continue ruining television, I want to help. So here's what I propose:

You get Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, and you let them run a bank. Set them up with some nervous tycoon-type who can't stand any of their ideas. They're constantly arguing with each other over every topic from big to little.

And you call it "Juggaloans." It's a surefire hit.


AMC Networks already have ICP, They have a show called ICP Theater on sister station Fuse
 
2014-02-09 10:24:25 AM  
Well hopefully it will go the way of small town security, is that still around. I remember when they were trying to shove that down our throats.
 
2014-02-09 11:27:42 AM  
Abacus9:

JosephFinn: The Cardinals were originally from Chicago? I never knew that.

The Cardinals were the original NFL team from Chicago, when the NFL formed in 1920.  The Bears moved to Chicago in 1921, when in the inaugural 1920 season, they played in Decatur, Illinois as the Staleys.  The Bears changed their name in 1921 to the Bears, to better associate themselves with the Chicago Cubs, with whom they shared Wrigley Field for the next 48 years.  The Bears and the Cardinals are the only charter members of the original NFL remaining.

The more you know...
 
2014-02-09 11:45:50 AM  
They're great self promoters. I guess you have to be when you're one of the worst bands in the history of the world.
 
2014-02-09 12:23:13 PM  

B.L.Z. Bub: So what communities of L.A. did the Rams attract vs. the Raiders?


ESPN's 30-for-30 sports-doc series includes "Straight Outta LA."  Despite rappers NWA on the cover, it's about history of the Raiders' franchise including the team's image of tough, how rap and then gangs became associated with the team, why Raiders' clothing was banned by schools and the biggest upsets of all being the two city-moves by the team.  Ice Cube interviews Raiders' devoted owner Al Davis throughout the doc.

I fast-forwarded through the self-congratulatory bits by Ice Cube making it all about himself.  Thought the rest of the film was a fascinating look at this particular aspect of Raiders' history and totally worth the time.

ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-02-09 02:14:02 PM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: Arena Football is the only sport where the coach stands in the field of play.


And baseball.  Base coaches are in play.
 
2014-02-09 04:42:35 PM  

arcas: I'm reminded yet again why I canceled my cable subscription...


I did the same .
 
2014-02-09 05:52:10 PM  

BilltheThrill: Abacus9:

JosephFinn: The Cardinals were originally from Chicago? I never knew that.

The Cardinals were the original NFL team from Chicago, when the NFL formed in 1920.  The Bears moved to Chicago in 1921, when in the inaugural 1920 season, they played in Decatur, Illinois as the Staleys.  The Bears changed their name in 1921 to the Bears, to better associate themselves with the Chicago Cubs, with whom they shared Wrigley Field for the next 48 years.  The Bears and the Cardinals are the only charter members of the original NFL remaining.

The more you know...


Thanks for the info. You got some mad knowledge about NFL history.
 
2014-02-09 06:59:05 PM  

RottenEggs: arcas: I'm reminded yet again why I canceled my cable subscription...

I did the same .


If there was some way to get TCM without having to pay for a cable subscription....
 
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