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(Think Progress)   WV Water company: "They can't hate us any more than they already do, right? So why NOT charge the public for the water needed to flush our contaminated water out of their systems, then refuse to issue the water credits we promised?"   (thinkprogress.org) divider line 147
    More: Asinine, West Virginia, water pollutions, chemical accident, West Virginia American Water, refuses  
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2014-02-09 12:03:20 AM  
Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.
 
2014-02-09 12:19:36 AM  

fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.


Why are people upset with the free market solutions?
 
2014-02-09 12:20:42 AM  

fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.


Water and electricity companies are government approved monopolies.  There's plenty to see here.
 
2014-02-09 01:30:50 AM  

SphericalTime: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Why are people upset with the free market solutions?


Because they hate Jesus.
 
2014-02-09 02:31:45 AM  
It's Ok the free market will come along any second and punish them for their misdeeds, right?
 
2014-02-09 02:38:46 AM  
I wonder how the free market there would treat a guy who opened up a torches and pitchfork stand in WV.
 
2014-02-09 02:47:36 AM  
HABABABABABA-IF THE PRIVATIZED WATER COMPANY HAD BEEN ALLOWED TO HIRE CHILDREN TO DO THE WORK FOR 0.20/HR THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM-HABABABABABABARRRRROOOOOOOO
 
2014-02-09 02:49:44 AM  

Great clown Pagliacci's pick-me-up: I wonder how the free market there would treat a guy who opened up a torches and pitchfork stand in WV.


It's being profitable, there were marches this weekend.
 
2014-02-09 02:51:38 AM  
No, the company is right...

This is probably Obama's fault, and the fault of other Lieburuls.
 
2014-02-09 02:56:12 AM  
Revolution's in five, boys. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.
 
2014-02-09 03:01:24 AM  

SphericalTime: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Why are people upset with the free market solutions?


Because deep down they really want to live in a socialist society.
 
2014-02-09 03:08:43 AM  

Cathedralmaster: Revolution's in five, boys. Smoke 'em if you got 'em.


photos1.blogger.com
 
2014-02-09 03:10:16 AM  
Yeah, good luck with that. The only, the ONLY, reason why they would ever reverse the charges is due to a shiat-ton more bad PR, and I wouldn't count on this story hitting the major TV news networks. They are your water supplier. Your sole supplier. I wouldn't be shocked that in the legal agreement there is a clause that lets them charge people accordingly for shiat that they have to fix, even if it is a 3rd party at fault. I would not be shocked that come a year or two from now we find out that a state politician is caught getting kickbacks from the water company in order to downplay this whole thing.

/has little faith in mankind
//or realistic. Pick one.
 
2014-02-09 03:11:47 AM  

RoxtarRyan: /has little faith in mankind
//or realistic. Pick one.


img.pandawhale.com
 
2014-02-09 03:13:30 AM  
The customers should just switch to a better water company.
 
2014-02-09 03:16:47 AM  
West Virginia's motto:  Rendering water undrinkable is job number one!

Don't worry. Other states can keep up with fracking and tarsands and shale oil extraction. Coal is not king in Alberta, after all. Why should it be in the Bakken oil shales?
 
2014-02-09 03:19:03 AM  
If you don't like the water, you dont have to buy the water.
 
2014-02-09 03:25:53 AM  

TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The customers should just switch to a better water company.


The city where I live only has one water company, and I've never really heard of cities having more than one to choose from.

Is this a new thing, more than one water company, like more than one electric company?
 
2014-02-09 03:36:30 AM  

strangeluck: TedCruz'sCrazyDad: The customers should just switch to a better water company.

The city where I live only has one water company, and I've never really heard of cities having more than one to choose from.

Is this a new thing, more than one water company, like more than one electric company?


Pretty sure that's the joke.
 
2014-02-09 03:38:07 AM  

strangeluck: The city where I live only has one water company, and I've never really heard of cities having more than one to choose from.


thatsthejoke.jpg
 
2014-02-09 03:39:56 AM  
We can hate you more, but it probably won't do any good.

Kind of like I hate Time Warner Cable, but I've got no choice with them, either.
 
2014-02-09 03:40:30 AM  
Water is not a constitutionally protected right.
 
2014-02-09 03:41:26 AM  
The water company may or may not be assholes, but people are getting worked up over not getting account credits for 1,000 gallons? National average cost for 1,000 gallons is two dollars. Who gives a damn?

/betteroffdead.jpg
 
2014-02-09 03:43:33 AM  

the_cnidarian: Water is not a constitutionally protected right.


www.driversofchange.com
 
2014-02-09 03:45:23 AM  

LockeOak: The water company may or may not be assholes, but people are getting worked up over not getting account credits for 1,000 gallons? National average cost for 1,000 gallons is two dollars. Who gives a damn?

/betteroffdead.jpg


Lol, I almost repsponded, then I checked your bio.


2/10
/you could've done better
 
2014-02-09 03:45:33 AM  

the_cnidarian: Water is not a constitutionally protected right.


Probably not; but it's one of the few things people have gone to war over right here in America (see: Johnson county war, etc.)
 
2014-02-09 03:47:25 AM  

the_cnidarian: Water is not a constitutionally protected right.


Turn off the water and see what happens ...

The brains of Water Co. execs are hydrating too.
 
2014-02-09 03:51:35 AM  
The credits have obviously not been given, which is a huge mistake by the water company. However, I have to wonder if the contamination damaged the meters or caused misreadings on them. Considering that they were engineered to work only with city water and the spill had mystery ingredients, I would bet that every meter is farked and they used the previous year's reading (as they are required to by regulations if the meter breaks) to set the bills.

The company should just eat the cost and got to court against the polluter to recover the lost revenue and damaged meter replacement costs. Make it very public when they do it and drum up public support.
 
2014-02-09 04:00:16 AM  

gozar_the_destroyer: The credits have obviously not been given, which is a huge mistake by the water company. However, I have to wonder if the contamination damaged the meters or caused misreadings on them. Considering that they were engineered to work only with city water and the spill had mystery ingredients, I would bet that every meter is farked and they used the previous year's reading (as they are required to by regulations if the meter breaks) to set the bills.

The company should just eat the cost and got to court against the polluter to recover the lost revenue and damaged meter replacement costs. Make it very public when they do it and drum up public support.


Any fluid flowing through the valve turns turns the meter at the same rate.

Although you could argue that the liquid measusred is not 100% water so it should not be charged at that rate.
 
2014-02-09 04:16:54 AM  

the_cnidarian: LockeOak: The water company may or may not be assholes, but people are getting worked up over not getting account credits for 1,000 gallons? National average cost for 1,000 gallons is two dollars. Who gives a damn?

/betteroffdead.jpg

Lol, I almost repsponded, then I checked your bio.


2/10
/you could've done better


i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-09 04:23:38 AM  

Lsherm: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Water and electricity companies are government approved monopolies.  There's plenty to see here.


So are cable, phone and garbage companies.  Were you under the delusion that changes anything?

Oh man, have you got a lot to learn.
 
2014-02-09 04:23:44 AM  
i.imgur.com
Approves.


/obscure?
 
2014-02-09 04:28:20 AM  
Maybe this will learn those inbred hicks that sometimes the Government is on your side.
 
2014-02-09 04:34:37 AM  

EvilEgg: Maybe this will learn those inbred hicks that sometimes the Government is on your side.


I'm from the government,  I'm here to help.

*runs away screaming*
 
2014-02-09 04:48:25 AM  

Kahabut: Lsherm: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Water and electricity companies are government approved monopolies.  There's plenty to see here.

So are cable, phone and garbage companies.  Were you under the delusion that changes anything?

Oh man, have you got a lot to learn.


You sure told us, Mr Cynical Realist.
 
2014-02-09 04:52:36 AM  

the_cnidarian: Water is not a constitutionally protected right.


I think it's covered in the Declaration of Independence under the part about "Life". Liberty and the pursuit of happiness are, of necessity, secondary.
 
2014-02-09 05:02:23 AM  
I don't know what the fine folks at Volkswagon have done to piss everyone off.  It doesn't seem fair.
 
2014-02-09 05:11:39 AM  
And this is why socialism fails.
 
2014-02-09 05:17:25 AM  

austin_millbarge: It's Ok the free market will come along any second and punish them for their misdeeds, right?


Of course. But if we over tax and/or over regulate these water companies, I fear they will relocate to India.
 
2014-02-09 05:17:34 AM  

gerbilpox: [i.imgur.com image 405x304]
Approves.


/obscure?




Nope.
 
2014-02-09 05:20:15 AM  

the_cnidarian: Although you could argue that the liquid measusred is not 100% water so it should not be charged at that rate.


I don't know if you should go down that path. I'm sure there is someone at the water company who would argue that the price should go up because the chemicals are more expensive than water.
 
2014-02-09 05:21:49 AM  
There may be something to this. My neighbor and best friend had his last bill say that he used 3600 gallons in Jan. He didn't use that much in May when he filled his swimming pool. And this is with he and his wife not using the water for anything save flushing the toilet.

/his normal Jan. usage - around 900-1000 gallons
//me, I'm on a well... one of the few times I've been glad of that
///obligate third slashie
 
2014-02-09 05:28:31 AM  
Is everyone in this WV town still under a "double distill plus thumper" water order?
 
2014-02-09 05:41:04 AM  

the_cnidarian: Water is not a constitutionally protected right.


Rights might be enumerated, but rights themselves are unconditional. Any time that a right is qualified ie civil rights, human rights, property rights, constitutional rights, reproductive rights, then what is actually being presented is a group of entitlements that a given society thinks everyone should have.

 
2014-02-09 05:42:22 AM  

Lionel Mandrake: SphericalTime: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Why are people upset with the free market solutions?

Because they hate Jesus.


Jesus can change water into wine.  I'm sure he can change it back if he wants.
 
2014-02-09 05:45:32 AM  

RoxtarRyan: I would not be shocked that come a year or two from now we find out that a state politician is caught getting kickbacks from the water company in order to downplay this whole thing.


But it won't look like kickbacks.  It will look like First Amendment Corporations are People Here, Get Elected and Do What I Say Money.
 
2014-02-09 05:50:52 AM  

the_cnidarian: gozar_the_destroyer: The credits have obviously not been given, which is a huge mistake by the water company. However, I have to wonder if the contamination damaged the meters or caused misreadings on them. Considering that they were engineered to work only with city water and the spill had mystery ingredients, I would bet that every meter is farked and they used the previous year's reading (as they are required to by regulations if the meter breaks) to set the bills.

The company should just eat the cost and got to court against the polluter to recover the lost revenue and damaged meter replacement costs. Make it very public when they do it and drum up public support.

Any fluid flowing through the valve turns turns the meter at the same rate.

Although you could argue that the liquid measusred is not 100% water so it should not be charged at that rate.


Plus, if the company does anything that admits the water ain't 100% water, it hurts their case when they go to court and claim they provided 100% water.
 
2014-02-09 06:17:26 AM  

a_room_with_a_moose: There may be something to this. My neighbor and best friend had his last bill say that he used 3600 gallons in Jan. He didn't use that much in May when he filled his swimming pool. And this is with he and his wife not using the water for anything save flushing the toilet.

/his normal Jan. usage - around 900-1000 gallons
//me, I'm on a well... one of the few times I've been glad of that
///obligate third slashie


Your neighbor is lying to you.  A 10'x10' pool 6' meters deep is about 4500 gallons.  Is your neighbors pool that small?
 
2014-02-09 06:42:19 AM  

SphericalTime: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Why are people upset with the free market solutions?


You fark anti-capitalist people are so stupid it hurts.

Go ahead. Tell me how this is in any way the fault of free market capitalism.
 
2014-02-09 06:49:04 AM  

Likwit: SphericalTime: fusillade762: Private company simply trying to maximize profits for their stockholders. Nothing to see here.

Why are people upset with the free market solutions?

You fark anti-capitalist people are so stupid it hurts.

Go ahead. Tell me how this is in any way the fault of free market capitalism.

 
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