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(CTV News)   Crack pipe vending machines installed in downtown Vancouver. What could possibly go wrong?   (ctvnews.ca) divider line 138
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2014-02-08 08:45:14 PM  
Why is it stupid?
 
2014-02-08 08:53:26 PM  
I know what could go right, a lowered HIV/AIDS rate due to fewer shared needles. People are going to use drugs, we may as well try and stop them from dying while they're at it.
 
2014-02-08 09:03:41 PM  

doglover: Why is it stupid?


CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.
 
2014-02-08 09:07:18 PM  

skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.


Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?
 
2014-02-08 09:09:41 PM  
www.safehavensinternational.org

Crack pipe vending machines have been around for years.
 
2014-02-08 09:19:20 PM  

change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.

Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?


It just seems like it encourages crack smoking. This gives the dealers a greenlight to start selling, because the people need something to put in their new vending machine pipes.

How about taking that money and putting it into rehab programs. To help people stop using instead of encouraging it.
 
2014-02-08 09:24:47 PM  

skatedrifter: change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.

Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?

It just seems like it encourages crack smoking. This gives the dealers a greenlight to start selling, because the people need something to put in their new vending machine pipes.

How about taking that money and putting it into rehab programs. To help people stop using instead of encouraging it.


Hmm, kind of like the program already in place in Vancouver called Insite. Putting a very small amount of money into a vending machine and some pipes aren't going to drain anyone's budget. Dealers are already selling plenty and people are already taking drugs. Your logic is faulty and has been proven time and time again.
 
2014-02-08 09:38:13 PM  
Harm reduction, biatches. It works.

Oh and

theinfosphere.org

/oblig
 
NFA [TotalFark]
2014-02-08 09:43:50 PM  

change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.


Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?


Sharing needles spreads disease.  So it makes sense to make needles available.  Crack pipes don't spread disease, so it makes no sense to sell them.  If an addict makes a pipe out of a can or an apple, let them.

This is an issue where people who are comfortable with chronic drug use see nothing wrong with free use of drugs in society.  It's sort of like a homeless hooker saying she sucks hobo dicks.  Everyone in the room is grossed out but since she does it 20 times at a day, she doesn't understand the shocked horrified look on everyone's face.

Crack smokers and heroin users are harmful to society.  There is never a good reason to accept the behavior or endorse it.  There are governments which provide maintenance amounts of heroin to users to keep them from killing honest citizens to get the drug.  This is acceptable when it's under a doctor's supervision.  Otherwise, drugs should never be encouraged.
 
2014-02-08 09:49:22 PM  

NFA: Crack pipes don't spread disease, so it makes no sense to sell them.


Didn't RTFA, did you?


NFA: Crack smokers and heroin users are harmful to society.


Please show your work. Also note: "WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN" will result in immediate disqualification.
 
2014-02-08 09:52:21 PM  

NFA: Otherwise, drugs should never be encouraged.


Because when drugs are discouraged, people will stop using them. Forever.
 
2014-02-08 09:53:56 PM  
The machine takes yer toonie, eh.
 
2014-02-08 09:55:04 PM  

NFA: change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.


Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?

Sharing needles spreads disease.  So it makes sense to make needles available.  Crack pipes don't spread disease, so it makes no sense to sell them.  If an addict makes a pipe out of a can or an apple, let them.

This is an issue where people who are comfortable with chronic drug use see nothing wrong with free use of drugs in society.  It's sort of like a homeless hooker saying she sucks hobo dicks.  Everyone in the room is grossed out but since she does it 20 times at a day, she doesn't understand the shocked horrified look on everyone's face.

Crack smokers and heroin users are harmful to society.  There is never a good reason to accept the behavior or endorse it.  There are governments which provide maintenance amounts of heroin to users to keep them from killing honest citizens to get the drug.  This is acceptable when it's under a doctor's supervision.  Otherwise, drugs should never be encouraged.


www.rocknrod.com
 
2014-02-08 10:14:10 PM  

skatedrifter: It just seems like it encourages crack smoking.


No. Crackheads are ALREADY SMOKING CRACK.

You leave them alone, shun them, and they will become the crackheads we know and love in the USA:

www.shawnmichaelhoward.com

Homeless, unemployable squatters with a myriad of preventable diseases who use crime in order to finance their habits until they die in a pool of their own urine and shiat in on your couch after breaking in while you were on vacation for the weekend.

However, if you give drug addicts access to clean gear and try to help them instead of arresting them all, they don't turn out so bad:

i.usatoday.net

Sure it will kill them eventually, but so will booze, cigarettes, and fat. Those are still legal.

So tell me again, why is it a BAD thing to supply drug addicts with a means of keeping themselves healthier? Vancouver already has a little junkie area. They provide them with clean needles and such already. It's not like this machine is going into middle schools.
 
2014-02-08 10:18:23 PM  

NFA: heroin users are harmful to society.


doctorsinternet.com

What professional heroin users might look like.

images.askmen.com

What recreational heroin users might look like.

Yeah, I remember all the times Philip Seymour Hoffman broke into my house looking for loose change. It was turble times. Just turble.
 
2014-02-08 10:36:34 PM  
THIS IDEA GETS THE ROB FORD SEAL OF APPROVAL!

assets.vice.com
 
2014-02-08 11:01:25 PM  
media.giphy.com

Approves!
 
2014-02-08 11:03:58 PM  
With my luck, I'd buy a crack pipe from a vending machine, but then I couldn't find any crack. I'm a loser.
 
2014-02-08 11:11:39 PM  

fusillade762: Harm reduction, biatches. It works.

Oh and

[theinfosphere.org image 720x544]

/oblig


It took 8 posts to finally get a Futurama reference? That was the first thing that came to my mind, and I have it on good authority that the show is popular amongst farkers
 
2014-02-08 11:44:09 PM  

Mark Ratner: With my luck, I'd buy a crack pipe from a vending machine, but then I couldn't find any crack. I'm a loser.


That's a discarded lyric from Alannis Morrisette's "Ironic."

"It's a new crack pipe, without any crack..."
 
2014-02-08 11:52:32 PM  

Shostie: "It's a new crack pipe, without any crack..."


"...No cornerside dealers, and that is just wack."
 
2014-02-09 12:01:31 AM  

NFA: change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.


Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?

Sharing needles spreads disease.  So it makes sense to make needles available.  Crack pipes don't spread disease, so it makes no sense to sell them.  If an addict makes a pipe out of a can or an apple, let them.

This is an issue where people who are comfortable with chronic drug use see nothing wrong with free use of drugs in society.  It's sort of like a homeless hooker saying she sucks hobo dicks.  Everyone in the room is grossed out but since she does it 20 times at a day, she doesn't understand the shocked horrified look on everyone's face.

Crack smokers and heroin users are harmful to society.  There is never a good reason to accept the behavior or endorse it.  There are governments which provide maintenance amounts of heroin to users to keep them from killing honest citizens to get the drug.  This is acceptable when it's under a doctor's supervision.  Otherwise, drugs should never be encouraged.


Except for, you know, sharing crack pipes does in fact spread disease.
 
2014-02-09 12:03:01 AM  
Meh. Call me when the vending machines actually sell crack.

No seriously, call me and let me know where to find one. Sounds like a fun night.
 
2014-02-09 12:06:46 AM  

Radak: Shostie: "It's a new crack pipe, without any crack..."

"...No cornerside dealers, and that is just wack."


Isn't it narcotic?
 
2014-02-09 12:07:30 AM  

change1211: I know what could go right, a lowered HIV/AIDS rate due to fewer shared needles. People are going to use drugs, we may as well try and stop them from dying while they're at it.


There will always be those who think that drug users should die from their habit because they're weak and immoral and set a bad example and make baby Jesus cry or some other such nonsense. In fact I expect some of them will be along any minute now.
 
2014-02-09 12:07:38 AM  
It's cocaaaaiiiiine
 
2014-02-09 12:08:15 AM  

NFA: change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.


Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?

Sharing needles spreads disease.  So it makes sense to make needles available.  Crack pipes don't spread disease, so it makes no sense to sell them.  If an addict makes a pipe out of a can or an apple, let them.

This is an issue where people who are comfortable with chronic drug use see nothing wrong with free use of drugs in society.  It's sort of like a homeless hooker saying she sucks hobo dicks.  Everyone in the room is grossed out but since she does it 20 times at a day, she doesn't understand the shocked horrified look on everyone's face.

Crack smokers and heroin users are harmful to society.  There is never a good reason to accept the behavior or endorse it.  There are governments which provide maintenance amounts of heroin to users to keep them from killing honest citizens to get the drug.  This is acceptable when it's under a doctor's supervision.  Otherwise, drugs should never be encouraged.


lol
 
2014-02-09 12:08:39 AM  
Step 1. Call the dealer.
Step 2: Take 8 ball camping to rock
Step 3: Where the hell is all the blow???
 
2014-02-09 12:08:55 AM  

skatedrifter: change1211: skatedrifter: doglover: Why is it stupid?

CRACK. PIPE. VENDING. MACHINE.

Yes, that's what it is. Why is it stupid?

It just seems like it encourages crack smoking. This gives the dealers a greenlight to start selling, because the people need something to put in their new vending machine pipes.

How about taking that money and putting it into rehab programs. To help people stop using instead of encouraging it.


I take it you've never been to East Hastings.
 
2014-02-09 12:08:55 AM  

change1211: I know what could go right, a lowered HIV/AIDS rate due to fewer shared needles. People are going to use drugs, we may as well try and stop them from dying while they're at it.


Crack is smoked, not through IV use.

You choose to do drugs, drink, and smoke, it is your choice, it is not the rest of society's obligation to make your poor choices any easier.

I have no problem with booze or drugs.  I say legalize it.

If the drug is going to cause you to act ignorantly and share a needle, then maybe it is Darwin at work.

However, as someone who grew up between New Orleans and Colombia in the 80s, crack is an evil drug and causes people to do crazy shiat.   There is no need to enable that in any place.
 
2014-02-09 12:09:19 AM  
Crack trifecta in play!!!!
 
2014-02-09 12:10:15 AM  
I don't know what crack is like but I hear it induces euphoria, I could use some of that now

/Wish I was in van
 
2014-02-09 12:10:57 AM  

theflatline: You choose to do drugs, drink, and smoke, it is your choice, it is not the rest of society's obligation to make your poor choices any easier.


Yet the rest of society profits off drug users. So yes...it is our obligation.
 
2014-02-09 12:13:43 AM  

albatros183: I don't know what crack is like but I hear it induces euphoria, I could use some of that now

/Wish I was in van


The way crack was explained to me, it makes you feel like god for five minutes, and then you get angry.
 
2014-02-09 12:17:33 AM  
doglover:
What recreational heroin users might look like.

Yeah, I remember all the times Philip Seymour Hoffman broke into my house looking for loose change. It was turble times. Just turble.


Ah yes because heroin use and professional actors with multimillion dollar salaries go hand in hand.  And Philip Seymour Hoffman is a typical heroin user.

No doubt that's why so many people pray that yuppie heroin addicts will move into their neighborhood and bring up property values.
 
2014-02-09 12:21:08 AM  
You all do know just about every mom & pop variety store already sold crack pipes, right?
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-09 12:22:22 AM  

sno man: You all do know just about every mom & pop variety store already sold crack pipes, right?
[img.fark.net image 360x398]


I always wondered who was buying those.
 
2014-02-09 12:22:26 AM  
Let me be honest for a minute. I've never been addicted to crack, but I smoked it a couple times.

I smoked it with a guy who was starting to use it all the time. He lived across the hall from my apartment. One day he came over and asked if I wanted to hang out. Then he asked if I'd go with him to get some crack. At the time I was down for whatever so I said, "Sure."

I'm going to save the next part of the story for some other time and get to the part where we smoked the crack.

As soon as we did a few hits he got real sketchy. He was looking out the window, scared that his girlfriend would come home. He kept interrupting any conversation and turned it towards his paranoid thoughts. He was actually somewhat new to crack. I'll explain how I know after the next paragraph.

I took a hit or two and it felt good, but it didn't feel anywhere near as good as they make it sound. Maybe it was because the dude was bringing me down. Maybe because I didn't have $50 worth to blow through in half an hour on my own. To me...crack wasn't all it was cracked up to be!

Somewhere around those days the guy's girlfriend came over to my house crying. She said, "I didn't give 4 years of my life to this guy for him to turn into a crack head!" Who knows what drew him to the drug. Who knows why I didn't try to f*ck his girlfriend.
 
2014-02-09 12:22:47 AM  

SirEattonHogg: doglover:
What recreational heroin users might look like.

Yeah, I remember all the times Philip Seymour Hoffman broke into my house looking for loose change. It was turble times. Just turble.

Ah yes because heroin use and professional actors with multimillion dollar salaries go hand in hand.  And Philip Seymour Hoffman is a typical heroin user.

No doubt that's why so many people pray that yuppie heroin addicts will move into their neighborhood and bring up property values.


It's actually doctors who use the most heroin.

Ever had a serious injury? Got an injection of diamorphine? Guess who's a junkie.
 
2014-02-09 12:23:00 AM  
jaylectricity:   Yet the rest of society profits off drug users. So yes...it is our obligation


Other than the justice system/law enforcement and the prison industry which I am not a member of, how exactly do I as a member of society profit from the local crack user?
 
2014-02-09 12:25:13 AM  

SirEattonHogg: jaylectricity:   Yet the rest of society profits off drug users. So yes...it is our obligation


Other than the justice system/law enforcement and the prison industry which I am not a member of, how exactly do I as a member of society profit from the local crack user?


The profits of the justice system/law enforcement benefit society. Whether it's the money they have to protect you, or if it's the money pharmaceutical companies make, that money gets reinvested in society. If everybody stopped doing drugs, millions of people would be out of jobs. Do you understand what kind of impact that would have on our economy?
 
2014-02-09 12:26:22 AM  

SirEattonHogg: jaylectricity:   Yet the rest of society profits off drug users. So yes...it is our obligation


Other than the justice system/law enforcement and the prison industry which I am not a member of, how exactly do I as a member of society profit from the local crack user?


Cut rate, professionally administered dry jerks are destroying the sex industry.
 
2014-02-09 12:29:06 AM  
doglover:
It's actually doctors who use the most heroin.

Ever had a serious injury? Got an injection of diamorphine? Guess who's a junkie.


One of my family members is a doc. His practice is in pain medicine so I joke he's one of the biggest drug dealers for that part of the state he practices in.
 
2014-02-09 12:32:36 AM  
Crack , still better than Florida's 'bath salts' and zombies eating faces off.

The drug war was lost the minute Nixon deployed it.

/The standard of making Meth while wandering through a walmart is highly discouraged up there in canada.
 
2014-02-09 12:33:16 AM  
You think it matters that the "legit" drugs are there to keep you alive? Recreational drugs keep people alive. I wonder if Philip Seymour Hoffman didn't have access to drugs if he might not have just shot himself a long time ago.
 
2014-02-09 12:33:35 AM  
'During the Sochi Winter Games, this program is only available in Canada due to rights limitations'

blame canaduh
 
2014-02-09 12:34:30 AM  

jaylectricity: SirEattonHogg: jaylectricity:   Yet the rest of society profits off drug users. So yes...it is our obligation


Other than the justice system/law enforcement and the prison industry which I am not a member of, how exactly do I as a member of society profit from the local crack user?

The profits of the justice system/law enforcement benefit society.


Ummm... no. The cost of prisons, courts and law enforcement come out of the taxpayers' pockets. That's a loss, not a profit. Law enforcement also destroys millions (billions?) of dollars worth of illegal drugs every year. That's also a loss to the economy.

...if it's the money pharmaceutical companies make, that money gets reinvested in society. If everybody stopped doing drugs, millions of people would be out of jobs. Do you understand what kind of impact that would have on our economy?

The gain to the economy is the value of the drugs, minus the cost to produce them, so yes, that is correct.
 
2014-02-09 12:34:58 AM  

SirEattonHogg: doglover:
What recreational heroin users might look like.

Yeah, I remember all the times Philip Seymour Hoffman broke into my house looking for loose change. It was turble times. Just turble.

Ah yes because heroin use and professional actors with multimillion dollar salaries go hand in hand.  And Philip Seymour Hoffman is a typical heroin user.

No doubt that's why so many people pray that yuppie heroin addicts will move into their neighborhood and bring up property values.


Medical professionals (doctors, nurses EMT/paramedics and the like) tend to have larger percentages of opiate and stimulant abuse than the regular public.  Ease of access, and the job demands.

If someone is addicted to a drug, I'd much rather them have access to a safe, clean place to get their fix. Addiction mind doesn't think like a normal mind.  A dirty needle or bloody, sharp crack pipe isn't going to stop addiction mind.
 
2014-02-09 12:35:37 AM  
Better than broken light bulbs all over the alley outside your hotel parking garage.

I swear, every time I left the hotel garage there were guys smoking crack out of light bulbs in the alley.
 
2014-02-09 12:36:23 AM  
jaylectricity:
The profits of the justice system/law enforcement benefit society. Whether it's the money they have to protect you, or if it's the money pharmaceutical companies make, that money gets reinvested in society. If everybody stopped doing drugs, millions of people would be out of jobs. Do you understand what kind of impact that would have on our economy?

We have a largely drug addicted society whether it be to legal or illegal drugs.  It seems to be more accepted as the norm as time goes on. You're basically saying accept it and allow crack addicts the easy tools to feed their habit.  I'm not so sure.  We'll end up paying as the taxpayer on the costs of justice, through prisons, through treatment and/or from a more personal toll (dealing with family members).

I don't care about soft drugs, but crack and heroin?  We're encouraging the use?
 
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