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2014-02-08 08:46:03 PM
And Bullock will be played by a guy who played a lawman who was crazy as an outhouse rat.
 
2014-02-08 08:50:33 PM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bpvdCufjDo

/I'm sorry.
 
2014-02-08 09:00:26 PM
So you're saying there's a chance Mark Hamill will reprise his roll as Joker?
 
2014-02-08 09:21:08 PM
I superimpose Conroy's voice over all other Batman's. Even Adam we
 
2014-02-08 09:24:59 PM
Was hoping it was Diedrich Bader.
 
2014-02-08 09:26:11 PM
So is this just another cop/lab show set in a comic book universe?
 
2014-02-08 09:27:29 PM
Badly. Already voiced Batman BADLY.

It was the most wooden performance I have ever heard, and that INCLUDES stuff from MST3K.

I'm hoping he's more of a physical actor, and that he just didn't know how to emote properly with just his voice. Cause listening to him was painful.
 
2014-02-08 09:28:24 PM

Fano: I superimpose Conroy's voice over all other Batman's. Even Adam we


Surprisingly to me as well, it's not Conroy.  Though God knows that series got just about everything right.

Summoner101: So you're saying there's a chance Mark Hamill will reprise his roll as Joker?


Hamill has to at least make an appearance somewhere.  No idea where, but somewhere.
 
2014-02-08 09:31:49 PM
this wounds about as interesting as a Star Wars prequel about Darth Vader's childhood.
 
2014-02-08 09:40:54 PM
Based on this premise, there is no way for this to not suck.

I mean, a Batman TV show would probably fare better than any other comic-based series so far, and probably somewhat doable on a TV budget if Batman does more detecting than kabooming.

But this...
 
2014-02-08 09:50:52 PM
Batman without Batman? I have yet to be convinced this isn't a terrible idea. What's Bruce Wayne going to be doing except going to school and sulking and listening to speeches from Alfred? At least with the Superboy/Smallville concept, Clark Kent is always Superman even if he doesn't have the name or the suit.
 
2014-02-08 10:38:49 PM

Nem Wan: Batman without Batman? I have yet to be convinced this isn't a terrible idea. What's Bruce Wayne going to be doing except going to school and sulking and listening to speeches from Alfred? At least with the Superboy/Smallville concept, Clark Kent is always Superman even if he doesn't have the name or the suit.


It's brilliant. Every week viewers will tune in to ask "where's Batman?" Commissioner Gordon will go to get some coffee and the guy will ask, hey, you heard about this Bruce Wayne fella?" It's like the Itchy and Scratchy and Poochie show, except without Poochie, or Itchy, or Scratchy. just Disgruntled Goat.
 
2014-02-08 10:39:18 PM
This thread is dildos. Can anybody form a coherent thought? Or have a grammatically correct sentence structure? Dildos I say!
 
2014-02-08 10:57:31 PM
Gotham will include a very young ("around 12″) Bruce Wayne and classic villains like The Joker, Catwoman, and Penguin

Ignoring the fact that those ages don't work (Isn't batman usually about the same age as Joker and Catwoman?), wouldn't this series be pretty much a non-stop series of the GCPD getting their ass kicked?  Isn't that what happens every time Batman dies, or disappears, or goes emo and leaves the the police to try and handle these villains on their own?
 
2014-02-08 10:57:32 PM
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2014-02-08 11:05:24 PM
This is show is going to suck mega-balls.
 
2014-02-08 11:25:06 PM
Aww, and here I thought it would be more like Gotham Central.

/now that's a comic-based TV show I'd like to see
 
2014-02-08 11:29:59 PM
If Bruce is about 12, then it makes no sense for the Joker to be in it (since in the closest origin to canon, Batman is partly responsible for his creation) or for Catwoman, who makes little sense if she's about a decade older than he is. I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.

Seems to me the important story here is what makes Jim Gordon the one cop Batman forms a working relationship with. I hope they preserve Bullock's persona from the animated series: a jerk who bends rules but is committed and honest.
 
2014-02-09 12:07:53 AM

NeoCortex42: Was hoping it was Diedrich Bader.


Come now, old chum.
 
2014-02-09 12:37:45 AM

Robert1966: If Bruce is about 12, then it makes no sense for the Joker to be in it (since in the closest origin to canon, Batman is partly responsible for his creation) or for Catwoman, who makes little sense if she's about a decade older than he is. I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.

Seems to me the important story here is what makes Jim Gordon the one cop Batman forms a working relationship with. I hope they preserve Bullock's persona from the animated series: a jerk who bends rules but is committed and honest.


So really, this is what we've got:

No Batman
No costumed villains
No other super heroes
Two cops in a crime-ridden town
A 12-year-old orphan

Great. It's Law & Order: Gotham (before Gotham gets cool). Sounds dull as hell.
 
2014-02-09 12:44:11 AM

Robert1966: If Bruce is about 12, then it makes no sense for the Joker to be in it (since in the closest origin to canon, Batman is partly responsible for his creation) or for Catwoman, who makes little sense if she's about a decade older than he is. I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.

Seems to me the important story here is what makes Jim Gordon the one cop Batman forms a working relationship with. I hope they preserve Bullock's persona from the animated series: a jerk who bends rules but is committed and honest.


My god, I hated the Jack Napier origin story.  Fark Tim Burton in the only flaw of his Batman films.
 
2014-02-09 12:53:19 AM
They have probably changed the story 20 times by now in retconned of the DC universe, and The Dark Knight series contradicts it, but the damn near perfect origin story if Year One has Gordon arriving in Gotham from Chicago the same year Batman becomes active. He's coming into the corrupt sewer of Gotham for the first time, and a big part of his character was being an outsider that cleaned up the Gotham PD. You can can always tweak this with the new continuity, but I kind of hate those stories where everyone is connected to a ridiculous level (and having Gordon be the cop that comforts young Bruce in Batman Begins kind of pushes this a bit). The show may wind up being a good one, but I just feel like it is a story that doesn't need to be told.
 
2014-02-09 01:09:16 AM
To those who think this will suck due to no Batman has obviously never read Gotham Central
 
2014-02-09 01:28:25 AM

ItchyMcDoogle: To those who think this will suck due to no Batman has obviously never read Gotham Central


It's not just the lack of Batman. It's the lack of ANYONE.  None of the costumed villains would exist in this time period, which means it's just a show about cops dealing with street crime and gangsters. Yawn. If I want a police procedural, there are about a hundred to choose from and there's nothing about a young Gordon that makes him any more interesting than any other cop in any other cop show.
 
2014-02-09 01:36:21 AM

Mad_Radhu: having Gordon be the cop that comforts young Bruce in Batman Begins kind of pushes this a bit


Totally worth it for how amazing Gary Oldman is. And it makes sense. Bruce would have met police after his parents' murder and that experience, meeting a truly good cop, would be crucial to forming the idealism that Batman has to some degree even in his darker incarnations. Gordon is there to tell Bruce it's okay, from that first night through all the times Batman needs the tacit approval of a lawman he respects, to legitimize his war on crime that would otherwise be nothing but personal vigilantism.
 
2014-02-09 02:27:12 AM

ZeroCorpse: ItchyMcDoogle: To those who think this will suck due to no Batman has obviously never read Gotham Central

It's not just the lack of Batman. It's the lack of ANYONE.  None of the costumed villains would exist in this time period, which means it's just a show about cops dealing with street crime and gangsters. Yawn. If I want a police procedural, there are about a hundred to choose from and there's nothing about a young Gordon that makes him any more interesting than any other cop in any other cop show.


See, I'm hopeful for this series. We could get to see Gordon go from the only honest man in the Gotham PD, to one of the few honest men, starting with his own tightly-knit crew. We could get Oswald Cobblepot, creepy business owner and manipulator, before going full-on Penguin. Maybe we could even get his origin as an underworld figure. We could get Harvey Dent, amazing and incorruptible District Attorney, yet battling the schizophrenia that eventually wins out. We could get the backstory for Dr. Victor Fries and his wife, showing just why he loses his control when she's killed later on in life. We could maybe see a few episodes of the Waynes alive and trying to improve Gotham, before getting gunned down. We could see a season-long manhunt for Joe Chill, with Gordon chasing down leads on a case that haunts him the rest of his life. We could get to see some hints of why Bruce goes from grieving child to THE GODDAMN BATMAN in another dozen years or so. We could see Alfred Pennyworth evolving from employee to surrogate father.

We *could* get a lot of great moments that would both appeal to comic fans, as well as to the general public who might finally see the depth that decades of brilliant (and frequently not so brilliant) creators have brought to the Batman "family" of characters.

We probably won't get half of that, but if we do? Holy crap.

Arrow has turned out to be far better than Agents of SHIELD, and it has roughly the same budget as a local commercial spot, with a lead character and supporting cast nobody really knows and a cast of actors nobody had ever heard of (except for maybe Black Dynamite). Give a show about Gotham a budget, some solid writers who know the source material, and a chance to spend half a season building up a cast of Gotham's future heroes and villains, instead of taking a full season to get to any kind of basic point, and we might have something here.
 
2014-02-09 02:50:43 AM
What the hell is it with superhero shows where there's no friggin costumes?  Why?  Would one goddamm cape kill you Hollywood producer morons?  Would it?  We want capes,.  Superheros have capes and underwear on over their pantyhose.

Oh, and gigantic super boobs.
 
2014-02-09 06:55:58 AM

TellarHK: ZeroCorpse: ItchyMcDoogle: To those who think this will suck due to no Batman has obviously never read Gotham Central

It's not just the lack of Batman. It's the lack of ANYONE.  None of the costumed villains would exist in this time period, which means it's just a show about cops dealing with street crime and gangsters. Yawn. If I want a police procedural, there are about a hundred to choose from and there's nothing about a young Gordon that makes him any more interesting than any other cop in any other cop show.

See, I'm hopeful for this series. We could get to see Gordon go from the only honest man in the Gotham PD, to one of the few honest men, starting with his own tightly-knit crew. We could get Oswald Cobblepot, creepy business owner and manipulator, before going full-on Penguin. Maybe we could even get his origin as an underworld figure. We could get Harvey Dent, amazing and incorruptible District Attorney, yet battling the schizophrenia that eventually wins out. We could get the backstory for Dr. Victor Fries and his wife, showing just why he loses his control when she's killed later on in life. We could maybe see a few episodes of the Waynes alive and trying to improve Gotham, before getting gunned down. We could see a season-long manhunt for Joe Chill, with Gordon chasing down leads on a case that haunts him the rest of his life. We could get to see some hints of why Bruce goes from grieving child to THE GODDAMN BATMAN in another dozen years or so. We could see Alfred Pennyworth evolving from employee to surrogate father.

We *could* get a lot of great moments that would both appeal to comic fans, as well as to the general public who might finally see the depth that decades of brilliant (and frequently not so brilliant) creators have brought to the Batman "family" of characters.

We probably won't get half of that, but if we do? Holy crap.

Arrow has turned out to be far better than Agents of SHIELD, and it has roughly the same budget as a local commerci ...


The last time some one was this wrong they walked out of an aircraft waving a piece of paper.

No one wants to see characters that are little more than background scenery. It would be like a tv show based on Clark Kent's youth before the good stuff like the underpants on the outside and world threatening bad guys.

/with good writing this could be an interesting take
//they will hire the same hacks that write other mediocre shows
///I would prefer 12 episodes per season were the producers could keep a tighter control of the quality
 
2014-02-09 08:07:49 AM

Mad_Radhu: They have probably changed the story 20 times by now in retconned of the DC universe, and The Dark Knight series contradicts it, but the damn near perfect origin story if Year One has Gordon arriving in Gotham from Chicago the same year Batman becomes active. He's coming into the corrupt sewer of Gotham for the first time, and a big part of his character was being an outsider that cleaned up the Gotham PD. You can can always tweak this with the new continuity, but I kind of hate those stories where everyone is connected to a ridiculous level (and having Gordon be the cop that comforts young Bruce in Batman Begins kind of pushes this a bit). The show may wind up being a good one, but I just feel like it is a story that doesn't need to be told.




In the first Batman story, Gordon was actually a friend of a Bruce Wayne parents.

And Year One is not the end all and be all Batman Origin. Scott Snyder and Greg Capillio Batman a Year Zero is kicking all sort of ass.
 
2014-02-09 08:45:53 AM

ZeroCorpse: Robert1966: If Bruce is about 12, then it makes no sense for the Joker to be in it (since in the closest origin to canon, Batman is partly responsible for his creation) or for Catwoman, who makes little sense if she's about a decade older than he is. I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.

Seems to me the important story here is what makes Jim Gordon the one cop Batman forms a working relationship with. I hope they preserve Bullock's persona from the animated series: a jerk who bends rules but is committed and honest.

So really, this is what we've got:

No Batman
No costumed villains
No other super heroes
Two cops in a crime-ridden town
A 12-year-old orphan

Great. It's Law & Order: Gotham (before Gotham gets cool). Sounds dull as hell.


Doink doink :D

Gotta agree. Gotham can't be badass without Batman, it's a scum hive of villainy until he cleans it up.

It's like they REALLY want to do a Smallville again, but young Bruce was a angsty emo kid. Shiat doesn't start going until he actually starts his path to Batman.

See: Batman Begins.

/Srsly, DC. Stop farking up crap
 
2014-02-09 08:51:07 AM

SirLothar: This thread is dildos. Can anybody form a coherent thought? O or have a grammatically correct sentence structure? Dildos, I say!

 
2014-02-09 09:08:25 AM

jonny_q: Based on this premise, there is no way for this to not suck.

I mean, a Batman TV show would probably fare better than any other comic-based series so far, and probably somewhat doable on a TV budget if Batman does more detecting than kabooming.

But this...


A down-to-earth Batman that focuses more on being a detective with... unusual methods with some head busting on the side would be awesome.  Scale back Bruce Wayne to merely wealthy instead of being DC's Tony Stark, but give him some gadgets, cool car, cave hideout, etc.  Take a cue from Archer and have the timeframe be indeterminate.  Sort of a 70's/80's, feel.

But no, we're getting DC's take on Agents of SHIELD crossed with The Phantom Menace.  Can't wait to see that Bruce Wayne went to middle school with all his eventual enemies.  Uggh.
 
2014-02-09 09:44:56 AM
Great_Milenko: A down-to-earth Batman that focuses more on being a detective with... unusual methods with some head busting on the side would be awesome.  Scale back Bruce Wayne to merely wealthy instead of being DC's Tony Stark, but give him some gadgets, cool car, cave hideout, etc.  Take a cue from Archer and have the timeframe be indeterminate.  Sort of a 70's/80's, feel.

They should do a show based on the Legends on the Dark Knight series. Most of that was not your over the top super villain type stuff, and very doable on a small budget.

/ok except maybe the bat mite stuff...
 
2014-02-09 09:49:23 AM

Robert1966: ... I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.


Can't be Jack Napier because then they have to pay  Sam Hamm, the guy who wrote the "Batman" screenplay -- it was an original contribution and under contract rights he gets paid for its use.  That's why you never see that name used in other things

And yeah, it sounds like an awful, pointless show.
 
2014-02-09 10:03:44 AM

Mad_Radhu: this wounds about as interesting as a Star Wars prequel about Darth Vader's childhood.


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You mean to say silly voices and a stupid plot
won't make this a winner for FOX.
 
2014-02-09 01:02:06 PM
Great. Then how about a show about Steve Trevor and his rise in the Air Force before he ever meets Diana? That sounds awesome.

And we could also do a show about teenage Hal Jordan, decades before he gets his ring. It could be about how he loves planes and wants to grow up to be a pilot.

And I just can't wait until they start the show about Stephen Strange in his first year of med school. No magic. No super villains. Just Stephen learning to be a doctor. The show may even go long enough to get to his residency!
 
2014-02-09 01:19:03 PM

TellarHK: ZeroCorpse: ItchyMcDoogle: To those who think this will suck due to no Batman has obviously never read Gotham Central

It's not just the lack of Batman. It's the lack of ANYONE.  None of the costumed villains would exist in this time period, which means it's just a show about cops dealing with street crime and gangsters. Yawn. If I want a police procedural, there are about a hundred to choose from and there's nothing about a young Gordon that makes him any more interesting than any other cop in any other cop show.

See, I'm hopeful for this series. We could get to see Gordon go from the only honest man in the Gotham PD, to one of the few honest men, starting with his own tightly-knit crew. We could get Oswald Cobblepot, creepy business owner and manipulator, before going full-on Penguin. Maybe we could even get his origin as an underworld figure. We could get Harvey Dent, amazing and incorruptible District Attorney, yet battling the schizophrenia that eventually wins out. We could get the backstory for Dr. Victor Fries and his wife, showing just why he loses his control when she's killed later on in life. We could maybe see a few episodes of the Waynes alive and trying to improve Gotham, before getting gunned down. We could see a season-long manhunt for Joe Chill, with Gordon chasing down leads on a case that haunts him the rest of his life. We could get to see some hints of why Bruce goes from grieving child to THE GODDAMN BATMAN in another dozen years or so. We could see Alfred Pennyworth evolving from employee to surrogate father.

We *could* get a lot of great moments that would both appeal to comic fans, as well as to the general public who might finally see the depth that decades of brilliant (and frequently not so brilliant) creators have brought to the Batman "family" of characters.

We probably won't get half of that, but if we do? Holy crap.

Arrow has turned out to be far better than Agents of SHIELD, and it has roughly the same budget as a local commercial spot, with a lead character and supporting cast nobody really knows and a cast of actors nobody had ever heard of (except for maybe Black Dynamite). Give a show about Gotham a budget, some solid writers who know the source material, and a chance to spend half a season building up a cast of Gotham's future heroes and villains, instead of taking a full season to get to any kind of basic point, and we might have something here.


YOU'LL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT!
 
2014-02-09 02:35:45 PM
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2014-02-09 02:47:06 PM

Robert1966: If Bruce is about 12, then it makes no sense for the Joker to be in it (since in the closest origin to canon, Batman is partly responsible for his creation) or for Catwoman, who makes little sense if she's about a decade older than he is. I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.

Seems to me the important story here is what makes Jim Gordon the one cop Batman forms a working relationship with. I hope they preserve Bullock's persona from the animated series: a jerk who bends rules but is committed and honest.


Catwoman could just be a theif in her teens. Still don't know why she would be older than Bruce but still. Not impossible.

Joker may or may not have been leading the red hood gang (possibly only a member), so he could also be in his twenties.
 
2014-02-09 06:09:57 PM
I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.
 
2014-02-09 07:31:39 PM

ZeroCorpse: I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.


I see that you as well as I are a big fan of airtight origin stories. The ones where every character came from the same small town and every villain is the relative of a main character. It's nice when all of a villain's motivations and actions focus laserlike around every action of the heroes, for good and ill. I like when it creates unbreakable continuity snarls that make you think that all the characters were racing around from about age 8 or so like the grand summation in the Clue movie doing all kinds of deeds nonstop to fill in the time and get us up to the continuity we've all loved for decades inside of about 8 months of published comics.  It helps solve the problem of why villains never commit crimes out of town - because the hero will always helpfully be on vacation there in order to foil them. Also, every villain and hero is freudian, just another cowering manchild in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy to love them again. Oh how it makes me laugh.
 
2014-02-09 07:52:55 PM

ZeroCorpse: I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.


Or in fewer words: everyone went to school together
 
2014-02-09 07:53:30 PM
Meant to put that under Fano's quote, but whatever.
 
2014-02-09 09:45:22 PM

ZeroCorpse: Robert1966: If Bruce is about 12, then it makes no sense for the Joker to be in it (since in the closest origin to canon, Batman is partly responsible for his creation) or for Catwoman, who makes little sense if she's about a decade older than he is. I think it's more likely that they'll be Jack Napier (if that's his actual name) and Selena Kyle on their way to becoming supervillains. Batman's mobster enemies could be used.

Seems to me the important story here is what makes Jim Gordon the one cop Batman forms a working relationship with. I hope they preserve Bullock's persona from the animated series: a jerk who bends rules but is committed and honest.

So really, this is what we've got:

No Batman
No costumed villains
No other super heroes
Two cops in a crime-ridden town
A 12-year-old orphan

Great. It's Law & Order: Gotham (before Gotham gets cool). Sounds dull as hell.


*DUN DUN*

i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-09 09:52:07 PM

uselessgit: What the hell is it with superhero shows where there's no friggin costumes?  Why?  Would one goddamm cape kill you Hollywood producer morons?  Would it?  We want capes,.  Superheros have capes and underwear on over their pantyhose.

Oh, and gigantic super boobs.


25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-10 12:01:02 AM

texdent: Meant to put that under Fano's quote, but whatever.


Ya got me there.
 
2014-02-10 12:57:36 AM

Fano: ZeroCorpse: I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.

I see that you as well as I are a big fan of airtight origin stories. The ones where every character came from the same small town and every villain is the relative of a main character. It's nice when all of a villain's motivations and actions focus laserlike around every action of the heroes, for good and ill. I like when it creates unbreakable continuity snarls that make you think that all the characters were racing around from about age 8 or so like the grand summation in the Clue movie doing all kinds of deeds nonstop to fill in the time and get us up to the continuity we've all loved for decades inside of about 8 months of published comics.  It helps solve the problem of why villains never commit crimes out of town - because the hero will always helpfully be on vacation there in order to foil them. Also, every villain and hero is freudian, just another cowering manchild in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy to love them again. Oh how it makes me laugh.


Slow clap.

Well put. That's part of why you show up in green highlight.

This happens a lot more in comic book movies than it does in the actual books, though. I'm surprised Burton didn't give us a scene of Bruce Wayne and Jack Napier playing together in Gotham Park as toddlers.

But then, I notoriously HATE Batman Returns. Evil Circus. Kitty Litter truck. "HELL_ _HERE". Bad pussy puns. Goo-spitting. Giant penguin pallbearers. Penguin pallbearers, man.

Sorry... I digressed there for a moment.

The point is that you're absolutely correct, and when screenwriters try to "improve" on the writing of lowly comic books, it's inevitably some lame twist that makes everyone know and influence everyone else.

That's not to say comic book writers don't do it, too... But somehow it just sucks more when screenwriters take a good story and then try to tie everyone together in some lame "it's a small world" kind of way.
 
2014-02-10 12:59:11 AM

texdent: ZeroCorpse: I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.

Or in fewer words: everyone went to school together


The best parody of this is in The Venture Bros. when we discover that everyone went to college together.
 
2014-02-10 01:20:10 AM

ZeroCorpse: texdent: ZeroCorpse: I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.

Or in fewer words: everyone went to school together

The best parody of this is in The Venture Bros. when we discover that everyone went to college together.


So very true, and satisfying. (Canned applause)
 
2014-02-10 07:52:01 AM

ZeroCorpse: texdent: ZeroCorpse: I just can't wait until the bring in 11-year old Joe Kerr, a cop's son who just loves clowns and practical jokes. His dad, Office Jay Kerr, is having an affair with beautiful police psychologist Mandy Quinn.

Or in fewer words: everyone went to school together

The best parody of this is in The Venture Bros. when we discover that everyone went to college together.


The Venture Brothers does a great send up of it with everyone (usually Hank and Dean) that finds out the various connections always being shocked and calling bullshiat. Of course, that's Venture Brothers biggest strength, breaking down how ridiculous all the conventions of superhero and spy action are, the way only people that love the genre can. The Soryama episode is one that stands out to me in that regard.
 
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