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2014-02-08 06:19:33 PM  
From what I hear the internet was being an asshole to the game's creator.  So thanks, internet, for ruining yet another thing.
 
2014-02-08 06:22:32 PM  

PanicMan: From what I hear the internet was being an asshole to the game's creator.  So thanks, internet, for ruining yet another thing.


Oh Internet, is there any aspect of life you haven't ruined?
 
2014-02-08 06:25:04 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: PanicMan: From what I hear the internet was being an asshole to the game's creator.  So thanks, internet, for ruining yet another thing.

Oh Internet, is there any aspect of life you haven't ruined?


most pornography?
 
2014-02-08 06:33:18 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: PanicMan: From what I hear the internet was being an asshole to the game's creator.  So thanks, internet, for ruining yet another thing.

Oh Internet, is there any aspect of life you haven't ruined?


or in this case, improved
 
2014-02-08 06:36:31 PM  
What a brilliant marketing scheme!
 
2014-02-08 06:37:23 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: PanicMan: From what I hear the internet was being an asshole to the game's creator.  So thanks, internet, for ruining yet another thing.

Oh Internet, is there any aspect of life you haven't ruined?


This has been going on in the Android market since it was started. Once upon a time the majority of shiat in the market was free. But so many people who don't respect freeware kept demanding developers add this, fix that, change this, when are you going to, etc etc etc. All they do is biatch. So slowly over time the free shiat went away to the freemium and payware hell hole we have now..

Flappy Bird is just another example of it
 
2014-02-08 06:37:29 PM  
I think I could live with a lot of things for $50,000 a day. Whatever was going on must have really sent this guy over the edge. Poor fella.
 
2014-02-08 06:39:29 PM  
I never understood all the internet hate. I like the game. Im not a big game player but flappy bird is something that takes up no ram so i can keep it open and bounce back and fourth between other apps with ease.
 
2014-02-08 06:42:05 PM  

frozenhotchocolate: I never understood all the internet hate. I like the game. Im not a big game player but flappy bird is something that takes up no ram so i can keep it open and bounce back and fourth between other apps with ease.


That would be because it is the smartphone equivalent of 'snake', the old Nokia phone game from back in the day.
 
2014-02-08 06:48:52 PM  

Iplaybass: I think I could live with a lot of things for $50,000 a day. Whatever was going on must have really sent this guy over the edge. Poor fella.


I read a few articles that basically said he copied the gameplay from other games and ripped off/replicated most of the sprints.

And that now, a ton of people were making clones of his game as well.

cdn.destructoid.com
 
2014-02-08 06:50:02 PM  
 
2014-02-08 06:51:38 PM  

lordargent: Bwah
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/07/attack-of-the-clones-the-flappy-bird- co pies-have-arrived-and-b/


Not surprised.. Probably all have viruses and need root too. The Android market is truly a festering shiathole
 
2014-02-08 06:51:59 PM  

Radak: What a brilliant marketing scheme!


This. This is an attention grab. If this guy really wanted to get away from the hate, he could, you know, NOT PAY ATTENTION TO IT. Now he gets sympathy points and even more people download the game to get it before it gets pulled, and it'll sabotage the popularity of the inevitable mountain of clones that will follow. It's a brilliant move. No one that spends any amount of time on the internet would actually be surprised at the ferocity of the Internet Hate MachineTM.
 
2014-02-08 06:58:02 PM  
Whoop-de-doo. If only the creator of Angry Birds (the earlier example of "Let's take an existing game concept, make it worse, but make it more marketable by adding "cute" birds" strategy) had ragequit like this.
 
2014-02-08 07:01:57 PM  

LordJiro: Whoop-de-doo. If only the creator of Angry Birds (the earlier example of "Let's take an existing game concept, make it worse, but make it more marketable by adding "cute" birds" strategy) had ragequit like this.


I think it's hard to say they 'made it worse'. What are you comparing it to, exactly, in the touch screen market?

Sure, it's a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of some game you played in the 1500s or something, but what game did the mechanical 'slide finger back to fire ammo' aspect 'better'?
 
2014-02-08 07:04:26 PM  

styckx: This has been going on in the Android market since it was started. Once upon a time the majority of shiat in the market was free. But so many people who don't respect freeware kept demanding developers add this, fix that, change this, when are you going to, etc etc etc. All they do is biatch.



I wrote a very simple app to roll dice and threw it up on Google Play just for the hell of it, explicitly saying that it was just a stupid app with no animations of sound effects that was as simple as possible (with no ads).

Even still, I had users telling me to add animations, sound effects, and new colors.
 
2014-02-08 07:06:22 PM  

PanicMan: From what I hear the internet was being an asshole to the game's creator.  So thanks, internet, for ruining yet another thing.


We'll, his name IS Dong.
 
2014-02-08 07:07:04 PM  

whistleridge: frozenhotchocolate: I never understood all the internet hate. I like the game. Im not a big game player but flappy bird is something that takes up no ram so i can keep it open and bounce back and fourth between other apps with ease.

That would be because it is the smartphone equivalent of 'snake', the old Nokia phone game from back in the dayone of the oldest video games.

 
2014-02-08 07:09:08 PM  

kroonermanblack: LordJiro: Whoop-de-doo. If only the creator of Angry Birds (the earlier example of "Let's take an existing game concept, make it worse, but make it more marketable by adding "cute" birds" strategy) had ragequit like this.

I think it's hard to say they 'made it worse'. What are you comparing it to, exactly, in the touch screen market?

Sure, it's a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of some game you played in the 1500s or something, but what game did the mechanical 'slide finger back to fire ammo' aspect 'better'?


Crush The Castle
 
2014-02-08 07:09:49 PM  

aerojockey: styckx: This has been going on in the Android market since it was started. Once upon a time the majority of shiat in the market was free. But so many people who don't respect freeware kept demanding developers add this, fix that, change this, when are you going to, etc etc etc. All they do is biatch.


I wrote a very simple app to roll dice and threw it up on Google Play just for the hell of it, explicitly saying that it was just a stupid app with no animations of sound effects that was as simple as possible (with no ads).

Even still, I had users telling me to add animations, sound effects, and new colors.


I bet you even got the classic "One rating one star till you fix the bugs and add _____" bullshiat..
 
2014-02-08 07:10:27 PM  
Only*
 
2014-02-08 07:12:06 PM  
Probably got a lawyer scare from Nintendo.
 
2014-02-08 07:13:57 PM  
If I'm making $50,000 a day from a shiatty game, I wouldn't care what people were saying about it or me. I'd just stay off the internet for a while and lie low while this blows over. I suspect that he's scared of Nintendo sending a pack of lawyers after him.

If you get butthurt enough from internet trolls that you decide to give up $50,000 a day, then you're just a lost cause.
 
2014-02-08 07:19:48 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: If I'm making $50,000 a day from a shiatty game, I wouldn't care what people were saying about it or me. I'd just stay off the internet for a while and lie low while this blows over. I suspect that he's scared of Nintendo sending a pack of lawyers after him.

If you get butthurt enough from internet trolls that you decide to give up $50,000 a day, then you're just a lost cause.


I would sit naked for two hours a day and have my exes read the worst of my Internet hate mail live on stage for $50,000 a day.
 
2014-02-08 07:24:28 PM  

lordargent: Bwah
http://www.tuaw.com/2014/02/07/attack-of-the-clones-the-flappy-bird- co pies-have-arrived-and-b/


Is it just me or does Flappy Penguin also look like it's trying to knock off Jetpack Joyride too...?
 
2014-02-08 07:25:14 PM  

aerojockey: styckx: This has been going on in the Android market since it was started. Once upon a time the majority of shiat in the market was free. But so many people who don't respect freeware kept demanding developers add this, fix that, change this, when are you going to, etc etc etc. All they do is biatch.


I wrote a very simple app to roll dice and threw it up on Google Play just for the hell of it, explicitly saying that it was just a stupid app with no animations of sound effects that was as simple as possible (with no ads).

Even still, I had users telling me to add animations, sound effects, and new colors.


Nature of the beast. I have two apps in the mobile market, one is a "Virtual Cat Toy" app - the target audience is known to be a fickle beast in the best of times, but I occasionally get "my cat got tired of playing with it". The other feedback I love is "you should make a free version of this" - yes, because putting an ad on an app that cats will be pawing at will in no way be pointless (though I'd probably get some extra money on click-throughs, right?)

I've been working hard on my next big release, a complete revamp of a "thumbmasher" concept I did for the Android market (at the time, it was just to get my feet wet). I'd like to do a free version, but I'm still looking for a good ANE ad library to use with it (It's written with Adobe Air). I hope to get the premium version submitted this week to iTunes for iOS devices.

At any rate, if I had the PR this guy was getting, I'd be banking it and ride that was as far as possible. Look at Angry Birds... the marketing of that "franchise" is incredible, way beyond the game itself. I'm surprised they don't have their own show on the Cartoon Network. Seems like "Flappy Bird" could be getting that sort of money.
 
2014-02-08 07:30:50 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: If I'm making $50,000 a day from a shiatty game, I wouldn't care what people were saying about it or me. I'd just stay off the internet for a while and lie low while this blows over. I suspect that he's scared of Nintendo sending a pack of lawyers after him.

If you get butthurt enough from internet trolls that you decide to give up $50,000 a day, then you're just a lost cause.


He's just pulling it off the store.  It's a free game supported by ads - he'll still be making money on the sales he already made.
 
2014-02-08 07:37:51 PM  

LesserEvil: (though I'd probably get some extra money on click-throughs, right?)


Catlike clickthrough detected?

I'm devious enough that's probably exactly what I would have done.
 
2014-02-08 07:47:51 PM  

Lsherm: He's just pulling it off the store.  It's a free game supported by ads - he'll still be making money on the sales he already made.


It will be bought by a bigger app company within a week for about $20,000,000 and be back on the market.
 
2014-02-08 07:48:09 PM  

styckx: aerojockey: styckx: This has been going on in the Android market since it was started. Once upon a time the majority of shiat in the market was free. But so many people who don't respect freeware kept demanding developers add this, fix that, change this, when are you going to, etc etc etc. All they do is biatch.


I wrote a very simple app to roll dice and threw it up on Google Play just for the hell of it, explicitly saying that it was just a stupid app with no animations of sound effects that was as simple as possible (with no ads).

Even still, I had users telling me to add animations, sound effects, and new colors.

I bet you even got the classic "One rating one star till you fix the bugs and add _____" bullshiat..


I don't develop mobile software, but HOLY CRAP THIS KIND OF COMMENT MAKES ME MAD.  Just because a highly rated app hasn't been updated for the newest OS the day after the OS was released doesn't magically make that app terrible.  Its still just a highly rated app that needs updating. THAT'S ALL.
 
2014-02-08 07:51:09 PM  
Pretty much the same thing happened with Fez designer Phil Fish. The internet has a way of leading some people to insta-burnout.
 
2014-02-08 07:51:52 PM  

Radak: LesserEvil: (though I'd probably get some extra money on click-throughs, right?)

Catlike clickthrough detected?

I'm devious enough that's probably exactly what I would have done.


Heh... since the game I'm updating (hopefully submitting by the end of the week, and it's more of a 100% re-write than an update) involves mashing targets that skitter all over the screen, the ad supported version will probably have more than the usual share of click-throughs, but since this one is targeting human players, I don't feel so bad. They'll be able to get the ad-free "premium" version for 99 cents if they don't want to accidentally click an ad.
 
2014-02-08 07:59:40 PM  

MrEricSir: Pretty much the same thing happened with Fez designer Phil Fish. The internet has a way of leading some people to insta-burnout.


Phil Fish was an egotistical asshole and good riddance.  His financer bank rolled a documentary on him and he still came off like that in his own propaganda.
 
2014-02-08 08:01:44 PM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: kroonermanblack: LordJiro: Whoop-de-doo. If only the creator of Angry Birds (the earlier example of "Let's take an existing game concept, make it worse, but make it more marketable by adding "cute" birds" strategy) had ragequit like this.

I think it's hard to say they 'made it worse'. What are you comparing it to, exactly, in the touch screen market?

Sure, it's a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of some game you played in the 1500s or something, but what game did the mechanical 'slide finger back to fire ammo' aspect 'better'?

Crush The Castle


Nope. Roughly the same release dates, though Crush, as a FLASH game, was released about 6 months earlier, I specified 'touch mechanics'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crush_the_Castle
'...versions for the iPhone and iPod Touch were released on January 19, 2010'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angry_Birds
'... the first game was first released for Apple's iOS in December 2009...'
 
2014-02-08 08:07:36 PM  
He took it down because all of the sprite work was lifted from other things. The tubes were original NES mario and he literally took mario himself from the snes super mario world. Nintendo was on him like white on rice.
 
2014-02-08 08:09:29 PM  

Alexei Novikov: Radak: What a brilliant marketing scheme!

This. This is an attention grab. If this guy really wanted to get away from the hate, he could, you know, NOT PAY ATTENTION TO IT. Now he gets sympathy points and even more people download the game to get it before it gets pulled, and it'll sabotage the popularity of the inevitable mountain of clones that will follow. It's a brilliant move. No one that spends any amount of time on the internet would actually be surprised at the ferocity of the Internet Hate MachineTM.


This. Unless people are showing up at his house with torches and pitchforks just STFU and take the damn money.
 
2014-02-08 08:30:22 PM  

MrEricSir: Pretty much the same thing happened with Fez designer Phil Fish. The internet has a way of leading some people to insta-burnout.


I'm pretty sure Phil had issues before the internet ever got to him.
 
2014-02-08 08:32:35 PM  

fusillade762: Alexei Novikov: Radak: What a brilliant marketing scheme!

This. This is an attention grab. If this guy really wanted to get away from the hate, he could, you know, NOT PAY ATTENTION TO IT. Now he gets sympathy points and even more people download the game to get it before it gets pulled, and it'll sabotage the popularity of the inevitable mountain of clones that will follow. It's a brilliant move. No one that spends any amount of time on the internet would actually be surprised at the ferocity of the Internet Hate MachineTM.

This. Unless people are showing up at his house with torches and pitchforks just STFU and take the damn money.


Depends what section of the net he pissed off. Least  case scenario mean words... Worst case scenario. Pizzas at his door, doxed, and death threats..

Never under estimate how far the internet will go over dumb shiat.. I've seen them do worse over dumber shiat than this..
 
2014-02-08 08:36:56 PM  
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10615036/Flappy-Bird-too-g o od-to-be-true.html

There was speculation that he used bots to inflate the popularity of his app in the App Store, which he didn't deny.

Maybe he is closing up shop and banking his existing earnings before Apple wises up and tries to penalize him?
 
2014-02-08 08:37:52 PM  

AgentPothead: He took it down because all of the sprite work was lifted from other things. The tubes were original NES mario and he literally took mario himself from the snes super mario world. Nintendo was on him like white on rice.



Without doubt. You don't give up $50k per farking day just because of some people being mean to you in internet comments. You'd have to be awful gullible to believe that.
 
2014-02-08 08:41:20 PM  

Torgos_Pizza: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/10615036/Flappy-Bird-too-g o od-to-be-true.html

There was speculation that he used bots to inflate the popularity of his app in the App Store, which he didn't deny.

Maybe he is closing up shop and banking his existing earnings before Apple wises up and tries to penalize him?


Very likely..  If you ever check out the new section of the app store which is usually filled with the shiattiest of the shiat apps made by prisoners locked in a Nigerian office basement they all come pre-review with a bunch of mystery 5 star reviews.  Just I haven't heard of someone going to that extreme over one game. That's like an entire swarm of botnets worth of shiat
 
2014-02-08 08:42:17 PM  

LesserEvil: Nature of the beast. I have two apps in the mobile market, one is a "Virtual Cat Toy" app - the target audience is known to be a fickle beast in the best of times, but I occasionally get "my cat got tired of playing with it". The other feedback I love is "you should make a free version of this" - yes, because putting an ad on an app that cats will be pawing at will in no way be pointless (though I'd probably get some extra money on click-throughs, right?)


You should have a 'laser pointer' level, and every time the cat catches it, they end up making an in-app purchase.  It's the perfect crime.
 
2014-02-08 08:52:00 PM  
Good. I played that game for about 30 seconds and then deleted it. Nobody should be able to download it even again.
 
2014-02-08 08:57:53 PM  
http://static1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120326002526/trailerpark/image s/d/d4/Terry_and_Dennis.jpg
 
2014-02-08 09:08:41 PM  

FuryOfFirestorm: If I'm making $50,000 a day from a shiatty game, I wouldn't care what people were saying about it or me. I'd just stay off the internet for a while and lie low while this blows over. I suspect that he's scared of Nintendo sending a pack of lawyers after him.

If you get butthurt enough from internet trolls that you decide to give up $50,000 a day, then you're just a lost cause.


He does sound like a whiny little biatch. Seriously, he has a very popular game that's making him a ton of money, he has a few easy options:

1. Actually listen to the criticism he's getting, improve the game, and keep on raking in even more money for as long as he can

2. Ignore the criticism, keep on enjoying the cashflow while his 15 minutes of fame are going strong

3. Sell to the highest bidder, make a big check all at once, and then go be happy with his money without being bothered

Any of those is better than 'Waaahhh my creation that I uploaded for public consumption is popular! Woe is me, to be me with this awful fate.  I think I'll just pull the plug and kill off my revenue stream immediately'.

If he's this against getting attention, he should have listed it under a company name not associated with his real name, and created separate contact numbers/e-mails for the business that he could just ignore if he felt like it.
 
2014-02-08 09:22:59 PM  
I hate too much attention as the developer does.  He probably has enough money to live off for a few years.  I would do exactly the same thing.  Except I would leave it up on the store and not work on it anymore and then go buy a house in Hawaii or something and chill.
 
2014-02-08 09:23:58 PM  

kroonermanblack: Mr. Fuzzypaws: kroonermanblack: LordJiro: Whoop-de-doo. If only the creator of Angry Birds (the earlier example of "Let's take an existing game concept, make it worse, but make it more marketable by adding "cute" birds" strategy) had ragequit like this.

I think it's hard to say they 'made it worse'. What are you comparing it to, exactly, in the touch screen market?

Sure, it's a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of a copy  of some game you played in the 1500s or something, but what game did the mechanical 'slide finger back to fire ammo' aspect 'better'?

Crush The Castle

Nope. Roughly the same release dates, though Crush, as a FLASH game, was released about 6 months earlier, I specified 'touch mechanics'.


This is the best post that has ever been made (on Fark, comparing two games on a specific medium, where those games are crush the castle and angry birds, posted by some hair-splitting douche, in February 2014, tonight)

Yes, definitely the best post ever.
 
2014-02-08 09:27:23 PM  
It's not even remotely close to Angry Birds. Serious some of you people are really upset about shiat you know nothing about.
 
2014-02-08 09:28:10 PM  
I haven't played it but isn't it basically every underwater Mario level ever?
 
2014-02-08 09:29:04 PM  
He's probably getting out now because the popularity of the game has made it high profile enough to attract the attention of the Nintendo legal team. He says it is not because of legal issues, but I'm betting someone advised him to get out now before he gets hit with a trade dress suit over the pipes.
 
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