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(The New York Times)   Women don't want to have sex with husbands who do their share of the housework. Of course, they don't want to have sex with insensitive husbands who don't do any housework. TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands   (nytimes.com) divider line 91
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2014-02-08 01:28:09 PM
12 votes:
Dear Men,

Stop listening to shiat like this written by some guy who hasn't seen pussy since he crawled out of one.

Look, If you shag your wife on the regular, you will find that she does all the housework and will shut the fark up about it. Women need dick like plants need rain. Don't shag your wife and she will biatch about everything else. But it's really the lack of dick she's pissed about.

She doesn't just need dick. She needs seduction and romance. She needs a sexy smack on the ass now and again and occasionally, a fark just because.

fark your wife. fark her hard, fark her often. It's not that women don't want sex. They just don't want your lazy, tired imitating porn sex that you think she wants. Lick her, spank her, pull her hair. fark the shiat out of her at least every two or three days.

She will do the housework because she'll be happy. You may even get steak.

Now. Ask me how I know?

Remarried and farking happy, that's why. Good dick and a lot of it, makes me a lot less biatchy. Just saying.

It's not feminist. It's not politically correct. It's just farking true.

Go shag your wife.
2014-02-08 01:50:47 PM
8 votes:
"I'm very attracted to you," she said earnestly. "You know when I really crave you? It's when you're just back from the gym and you're all sweaty and you take off your clothes to get in the shower and I see your muscles."
Her husband countered by saying that this very situation had occurred that morning but that his wife became irritated when he tossed his clothes on the floor, which led to a conversation about his not vacuuming the day before, when she worked late. He had worked late, too, which accounted for the lack of vacuuming, but still - she hated waking up to a messy room, and it was his turn to vacuum.
"Right," she agreed. "I wasn't focused on sex, because I wanted you to get out the vacuum."
"So if I got out the vacuum, then you'd be turned on?"
His wife thought about it for a minute. "Actually, probably not," she said slowly, as if hearing the contradiction even as she was speaking it. "The vacuuming would have killed the weight-lifting vibe."


The bottom line is that women are not rational, and don't understand themselves.  If you give a woman what she says she wants, she will not be happy.  So, as a man, your job is to give a woman what she really wants, not what she says she wants.
2014-02-08 02:15:09 PM
5 votes:
Their "share" of housework?  My experience is that a good deal of housework is "make work" projects.  There's nothing more a woman can't stand is watching a man relax.
2014-02-08 01:30:19 PM
5 votes:

namatad: MemeSlave: namatad:

./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days?

The two adjectives are redundant.

But I repeat myself.

My ex recently asked me if we could get remarried. She promised sex once a month. Which would have been an infinite improvement. I countered with 3 times a day. She stopped emailing me again, thank science.
/never, ever marry a prude, ffs


When a woman thinks of sex as something she permits you to do to her, find a different woman.
2014-02-08 01:06:28 PM
5 votes:

namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"


Or, gee, you could suck it up and realize there are things more important in life than getting your rocks off.
2014-02-08 02:45:14 PM
4 votes:
QU!RK1019:

Here's the thing.  My wife and I have sex about once a week.  Not often enough for me, more often than she would prefer.  But I am madly in love with her, still after 10 years of marriage, I adore my children, and I love my life.  There's no way in hell I'm walking away from all that just so I can get more pussy.   Frequency of sex pales in comparison to everything else.

If you really believed that, you would have sex less often, however seldom she would prefer.

Instead you beg for it and she appeases you. You might be fine with that arrangement, and she might be too, but don't pretend that your mediocre version of fulfillment is the ideal for all humanity or this brave moral stance you're taking. It's not a very big priority for you. We don't all have the same priorities, and we don't all have the same reasons for them. Learn this and a whole new world will open up to you.
m00
2014-02-08 01:53:07 PM
4 votes:

Thorak: Silly me, I'd rather date a girl who actually likes me, rather than one who's a neurotic mess who needs constant ego-boosting.


So you don't date women?
2014-02-08 01:23:26 PM
4 votes:
This BS again? Plenty of straight men who don't want to have sex with their long-term partner as often as the gal would prefer. Of course, when men start holding out on sex, it's because of their promiscuous biological urges or being tired of the same old vag or some crap. Whereas women who do the same are stereotypical withholding frigid wives. (if a woman gets tired of the same old peen, that's a whole 'nother firestorm).

Also like to point out, there are so many guys out there who can't stand it when their woman tries to initiate sex ... it has to be completely on the man's schedule and terms. Woman acts horny at anything but the appointed time? OH NOEZ SCARY!!! GET AWAY!
2014-02-08 01:10:02 PM
4 votes:

QU!RK1019: namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"

Or, gee, you could suck it up and realize there are things more important in life than getting your rocks off.


No, not really. Everything else that's so important is just a way to get laid.
2014-02-09 06:59:12 AM
3 votes:

Hermione_Granger: Bucky Katt: Marriage sounds like just so much fun!

Honestly all human relationships are complicated. We live in a world that created the likes of Bill O'Reilly and Al Sharpton and threw them on the same planet together. At the same time. The Almighty FSM has a sense of humor if nothing else.

How any of us ever get around to farking at all is a miracle. How we ever pair down all the complexity that makes us up as humans to build lives, homes and rear children is amazing when you think about it.

It can be fun. It can be wonderful. But we have yet to build a world where all types of relationships, families and ways of living are not just "tolerated" but supported. And where people are really given the tools and helps they need to nurture these relationships - not just keep them on life support.


Wait a second here. Everyone smart'd your 'men, fark your wives' post because it's what they want to hear, but it's not smart at all. It's terrible advice. Most of these guys' problems are that they can't figure out how to get their wives to fark them, and your huge epiphany is that they should fark them? Yeah I'm pretty sure they've already thought of that and tried it like a bunch of times, which goes with what I bolded above. ...You think it's a miracle huh? Give your man some credit. And be prepared in the future for the possibility of being asked to show that same initiative and investment in getting laid if you want to keep that sex up.
2014-02-08 03:37:28 PM
3 votes:
Looking at this entire thread, I've only this one thought:

I'm so GLAD I never want to get married, have children, and much, much less be in any relationship whatsoever.

All of you people can keep your alimony, child support, family court, divorces, sexless matrimony, marriage counseling and all the other crazy draconian shiat to yourselves.
2014-02-08 02:43:26 PM
3 votes:

namatad: "There are always going to be trade-offs."

"Sex in any marriage is idiosyncratic and complex "


But dont try to tell me that one partner should be miserable and sexless because the other partner quit having sex.  Unless sex wasnt part of your marriage in the first place. Why did you get married again?
Religion? Kids? Dont kids require sex??



There are three rings in life:

1. The engagement ring
2. The wedding ring
3. The suffering
2014-02-08 02:26:16 PM
3 votes:

Peepeye: I'm a female who is engaged. All these comments are freaking me out a bit. The very few times I've turned him down are when he wakes me up for a morning quickie, although I usually don't mind. And if I wake him up at night....he's always willing. We work a lot. Lack of time is our issue.


Happily married man of 5 years and having sex at least twice a week, even with a newborn.  (After the healing process, of course)

We just make it a point to stay frisky.   Lots of compliments, innuendo, the occasional grope on the flyby, just to remind each other that we find them other sexy.

About once a month one or the other of us "plans" a sexy night with added romance and foreplay.   The rest of the time we just sort of pounce each other.

We do make sure to take into account how the other is feeling before initiating it, but I love when my wife starts it all.  Sexy as hell.

She keeps some nice lingerie and heels around, I've got some silk boxers she likes on me, it's not THAT difficult.

If you find them attractive, you should want to have sex with them, and you should tell them that often.

If you don't want to have sex with them, there's a problem.

I think one key is be able to forget all that other crap for a while, and just concentrate on having sex with the person you love and desire.   Leave work, and in-laws, and bills, and all that other junk at the bedroom door.
2014-02-08 02:22:14 PM
3 votes:

Peepeye: I'm a female who is engaged. All these comments are freaking me out a bit. The very few times I've turned him down are when he wakes me up for a morning quickie, although I usually don't mind. And if I wake him up at night....he's always willing. We work a lot. Lack of time is our issue.


Sounds like lack of time is your issue, not his. Good luck... you'll need it.
2014-02-08 02:21:40 PM
3 votes:
As someone who just got out of a 6 yr sexless relationship, im getting a kick.....

Nothing sexier than a girlfriend that will only bang you once a month(or less) because she feels like shes obligated to. Broke up because I wouldn't marry her. I countered with we already don't have sex and barely like each other, why get the govt involved.

That being said, we were both lousy to ,and for, each other. We were just too stupid and stuck in a routine to see it.
2014-02-08 02:13:55 PM
3 votes:

Egalitarian: This BS again? Plenty of straight men who don't want to have sex with their long-term partner as often as the gal would prefer. Of course, when men start holding out on sex, it's because of their promiscuous biological urges or being tired of the same old vag or some crap. Whereas women who do the same are stereotypical withholding frigid wives. (if a woman gets tired of the same old peen, that's a whole 'nother firestorm).

Also like to point out, there are so many guys out there who can't stand it when their woman tries to initiate sex ... it has to be completely on the man's schedule and terms. Woman acts horny at anything but the appointed time? OH NOEZ SCARY!!! GET AWAY!


No.  My issue is when the wife wants sex, she immediately expects it to perk up at the prospect no matter my mood, and then complains until I finally jerk myself off to get ready and more or less half-ass it.

It's called putting some effort in ladies.  If I'm supposed to spend ten minutes revving your engine you can spend a little time when I'm not in the mood.
2014-02-08 02:05:30 PM
3 votes:
I've said it before: what women say they want and what women actually want are two completely different things.
2014-02-08 01:30:01 PM
3 votes:
Fark marriage.

That is all.
2014-02-08 01:27:02 PM
3 votes:
I'm old, we have a young child, and my sex drive has suffered.  Mu hubby is also free to fnd some elsewhere (as am I).  He does, I haven't.  We are happy.  It's not even that we never have sex. It's just a few times a month instead of a few times a week.  I get he needs more even if I don't.

It doesn't have to be so complicated.
2014-02-08 01:26:44 PM
3 votes:
Once a woman stops feeling like she's pursued, she gets bored.

Always have a plan and never stop dating your significant other.
2014-02-08 01:21:13 PM
3 votes:

MemeSlave: namatad:

./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days?

The two adjectives are redundant.


But I repeat myself.

My ex recently asked me if we could get remarried. She promised sex once a month. Which would have been an infinite improvement. I countered with 3 times a day. She stopped emailing me again, thank science.
/never, ever marry a prude, ffs
2014-02-09 03:54:57 PM
2 votes:
Having read the entire article, I noticed the entire article was focused on what men are doing to make their wives happy.  I didn't see any evidence that indicated wives were attempting or should attempt to make her husbands happy.  Perhaps this is a problem.
2014-02-08 06:04:46 PM
2 votes:

m00: Fafai: Occam's Nailfile: Fafai: We already agreed it would be joint custody if it came down to that.

Didn't you also agree to all this stuff?

"to be my lawfully wedded(husband/wife), to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part."

I'm not saying I don't smell what you're cooking, I'm just saying, you wouldn't be the first husband going through a divorce to find out his wife has suddenly become Beelzebub.

She's tried pulling the marriage vow card and that doesn't work with me. I told her straight up love doesn't work that way. You don't promise to stay together once in front of everyone and then stop trying to please each other and then use the vows as a guilt trip to enable your lack of effort in fixing things.

People need to stand up for themselves and their interests. Knowing the marriage could dissolve at any moment keeps it on it's toes rather than resting on the lazy laurels of the 'wedding vows'. Knowing divorce is always an option keeps it interesting and keeps the desire high, because you feel like you're truly being 'chosen' each day. If it's a farking trap for life, where's the incentive to show them you want to keep them around?

So why did she stop wanting sex?


Well it all happened after she gave birth to our firstborn, which I hear is quite common. But in taking the steps to fix things I learned that, without realizing it, I was treating the marriage like a trap, like she was mine no matter what, and I stopped appreciating and valuing her in the non-sexual ways that she needed (guys think they do this when they say 'I love you' everyday and give hugs and stuff but it's more complex than that). I fixed my part in itfirst and then she began to come around.

Men should understand that women don`t always just cut off sex after marriage because she has the guy "trapped" so there's no need to fark him anymore--they actually lose their desire for sex because they start being taken for granted and have no real reason to want sex. Once a man can get his head around the concept of needing a 'reason' or some 'context' for sex, things will start to go a lot more smoothly.
2014-02-08 05:08:48 PM
2 votes:

FunkOut: Funny how some people are like "Sexual desire is something immature stupid people feel. When you get older and wise, you realise how silly and meaningless sex is and you can rise above such a base fleshly desire."


Not what I'm saying.  I'm saying, as you get older (unless you're just an asshole), you'll realize that one of the certainties of marriage is that there will be periods - sometimes PAINFULLY long ones - where the bedroom cools off, and if you love your spouse, you'll weather it.
2014-02-08 04:57:55 PM
2 votes:

Fafai: Occam's Nailfile: And the "split up, it's better for the kids" myth is a farking JOKE. That's the excuse people use when they are too selfish to work on a marriage, and they don't want to burden themselves with the guilt of destroying their family by bailing out.

Sometimes, maybe, but surely you've got to agree that kids should not remain in dysfunctional or abusive families if it can be helped? No teo cases are the same. I was able to work on/fix my marriage when we hit the sexless part after the birth of our child (now things are better than when we were dating) but if I had put in all that work and she didn't reciprocate? I would have left. And fark you for telling me that would be selfish. Selfish is trying to keep someone in your pocket through manipulation and guilt.


I totally agree that an abusive relationship is worse on children than a divorce, we're on the same page there.

If you have kids though man, and you bail out because you're not getting laid enough, you have decided that your need to have someone else give you an orgasm is more important than the benefit you can give your kids by giving them a stable home.

You've nailed it though - you worked on it, and you kept working on it, and things got better.  What if it took an extra month, or an extra year?  Would that have been too much, to preserve your family?
2014-02-08 04:41:21 PM
2 votes:

Fafai: Fafai: Also try to show a little disdain for doing it too. But don't overdo that.

Like while you're folding just hold up an article of her clothing and look at it quizzically and mutter to yourself, "the fark is this shiat?" before balling it up and shoving it under something else.

/My wife is great for this but I hope more women appreciate that although they are free to wear mens style clothes (like pants or suits etc), most men don't really get to wear skirts and dresses so folding this stuff is more foreign and confusing to a man than say a woman folding a man's clothes. But for the good of your sexlife, even if you've agreed that laundry will be his responsibilty, he's probably better off never learning how to fold women's clothes at all


At my house, everyone just jams the clothing in drawers. Life's too short.
2014-02-08 04:37:17 PM
2 votes:

namatad: Occam's Nailfile: namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"

So, if your sex life isn't ideal, you should abandon your vows, go through a bitter divorce and custody battle, pay tens of thousands of dollars to lawyers and fark up your finances, because if you don't you'll fark up your children.

Hmm.

I said sexless and UNHAPPY marriage.
I would argue that most kids would MUCH rather have their parents divorced and happy, rather than live in that miserable house. 

I noticed that you said BITTER divorce and custody battle.  WHY?
Why would the divorce be bitter? Why would two unhappy people fight to stay together?
And if one or both of them drag the kids into it? FARK THEM both. They really shouldnt have been together.

I dont know a single person who has ever said, "I am SO glad that parents stayed together, unhappy fighting all the time, making all of us miserable."
I do know MANY people who have said, "GOD I wish they had jsut gotten divorced instead of farking us kids over."


I never said that they should end their marriage lightly, but I also know that few people can fix their marriages or do fix their marriage.

VOW?
Well, not all of us are religious.
When I said my "vows" it was to a judge. And it wasnt a promise to be unhappy all the rest of my life because my wife refused to work on our marriage and expected me to just do what she said.


You started the thread by saying that if you aren't getting the sex you want, you'll flat out tell your wife you're going to fark another woman, or women.  How happy do you think that's going to make your marriage?

Any why would your divorce be bitter, after such a declaration?  Oh, I dunno, maybe because DIVORCES ARE BITTER, especially when one of you is farking someone else.  What fantasy world do you live in, where you can cheat on a spouse, and have a tidy little split up that everyone gets away from gliding on glittery rainbow sleigh?

Marital betrayal crushes people.  It's one of the leading causes of murder.  Not getting laid enough?  Maybe your spouse is depressed.  Maybe she's just going through a low libido cycle.  Maybe you're getting fat, you don't shower enough, and you're just not attractive to her anymore.  Or maybe SHE doesn't feel attractive. Any NUMBER of reasons can send a marital sex life into the shiatter for a little while - or even for a long while.

The whole idea behind "till death do us part" is that it is a GIVEN that over the course of 60 years together, there will be a few years in there where it's not all sunshine and puppy dogs.

I am not saying that there aren't reasons for divorce.  But if you go into a marriage thinking, "well, if she doesn't give me enough pussy, I'm just gonna go get some elsewhere and to hell with my commitments to her", well sir, you don't deserve a life companion.  And the "split up, it's better for the kids" myth is a farking JOKE.  That's the excuse people use when they are too selfish to work on a marriage, and they don't want to burden themselves with the guilt of destroying their family by bailing out.  The evidence for that is right there in your first statement, "if I don't get what I want all bets are off."
2014-02-08 02:47:00 PM
2 votes:

Peepeye: I'm a female who is engaged. All these comments are freaking me out a bit. The very few times I've turned him down are when he wakes me up for a morning quickie, although I usually don't mind. And if I wake him up at night....he's always willing. We work a lot. Lack of time is our issue.


USE YOUR WORDS
It is all about words.
Expectations. Etc.

As long as you talk about this shiat long before it comes a problem, it wont become a problem.

"NO HONEY. I am tired, need to get going for work, blah blah blah. Go jerk off and we will fark like crazy later tonight!"  or whatever

Or you can do what millions other people do. Push him away, get pissed, push him away some more, complain to your girlfriends instead of talking to him, and enter the relationship death spiral.

I wonder how many people actually talk about these things before getting married.
More afraid to share the truth, find out that one of them is unhappy with the current level of things.
2014-02-08 02:25:19 PM
2 votes:

Bane of Broone: Wow. I feel sorry for you.


It took a while, but I knew there would be a response like this coming.

Here's the thing.  My wife and I have sex about once a week.  Not often enough for me, more often than she would prefer.  But I am madly in love with her, still after 10 years of marriage, I adore my children, and I love my life.  There's no way in hell I'm walking away from all that just so I can get more pussy.  Frequency of sex pales in comparison to everything else.
2014-02-08 02:22:33 PM
2 votes:

sn82: Headso: sn82: DubyaHater: This is why I don't get married. I just date a girl for a few years, get bored with her and break up with her. Easier than cheating and marriage would just complicate the break-up.

Why do you break-up with her? Was there something wrong with her or the relationship?

he said he dates boring chicks and gets tired of them.

Shhhh, I was testing him.


So, why are you shaming this guy?  Is it the fact that he won't get married?  Because marriage is SUCH a good deal for men if it ends in divorce - in which 70% of divorces are filed by women and it jumps to 90% of divorces are initiated by the woman if she's a college graduate.
2014-02-08 02:14:03 PM
2 votes:
FTA:  It found that when men did certain kinds of chores around the house, couples had less sex. [ ] The more traditional the division of labor, meaning the greater the husband's share of masculine chores compared with feminine ones, the greater his wife's reported sexual satisfaction.

Wife:  Will you please turn off the game and help fold the laundry?

Husband:  I am sorry, but I am going to have to refuse to help with the "women's work."  And, it's not because I am lazy.  I am refusing only to ensure you experience greater sexual satisfaction when we have sex.  Sure you are mad now, but you will thank me... later tonight.
2014-02-08 01:55:18 PM
2 votes:
Granted, some might view a study like this with skepticism. Correlations don't establish causation, and especially when it comes to sex, there's always a risk of reporting bias and selective sampling, not to mention the mood of a subject at the time of the survey.

Funny how nobody says this when the results of a study conform to their preconceptions.
2014-02-08 01:49:28 PM
2 votes:

Theory Of Null: There is really no reason left to get married. Well, except for taxes.


I owe far more in taxes every year married filing jointly than I did single. This is because with two incomes, we are in a higher tax bracket.

The tax breaks come when you agree to give creepy Uncle Sam children to use as he sees fit in his nation-building games, I assume.
2014-02-08 01:42:30 PM
2 votes:

Egalitarian: This BS again? Plenty of straight men who don't want to have sex with their long-term partner as often as the gal would prefer. Of course, when men start holding out on sex, it's because of their promiscuous biological urges or being tired of the same old vag or some crap. Whereas women who do the same are stereotypical withholding frigid wives. (if a woman gets tired of the same old peen, that's a whole 'nother firestorm).

Also like to point out, there are so many guys out there who can't stand it when their woman tries to initiate sex ... it has to be completely on the man's schedule and terms. Woman acts horny at anything but the appointed time? OH NOEZ SCARY!!! GET AWAY!


But this is the point that Dan Savage makes over and over again.
OF course it is both sides. But there really are no surprised outcomes when one side isnt getting enough, whatever that is defined as.

1) they get it elsewhere
2) they leave
3) they are miserable and write to dan savage hoping that there is a magic cure.

If your partner sucks at sex, talk to them about it. most people are capable of learning and improving.
If they refuse to make the effort, change, talk about it, get help, etc, well, it is time to find a new sex partner.

/strangely enough, why not both? the friend that is wonderful and shares so many things that you both find important and a sex partner. TADA. Why try to solve two problems with one answer? Maybe the perfect answer is two solutions?
2014-02-08 01:30:59 PM
2 votes:
Ok, so it was written by a chick named Lori. I say if Lori had put the kids to bed early and sucked her husband's dick instead of writing this article, she and every couple on the planet would be a lot better off.

Just saying.
2014-02-08 01:27:30 PM
2 votes:
When the religious dogma of marriage is eventually eroded away to reveal that the covenant of marriage is a bond of trust and sharing, so too will the prudish concept of sexuality be re-imagined into an act of nature and bonding, and not a taboo. 

I fully support the concept of the "hall-pass" as it were, where married, committed couples have a set period of time away from each other to explore their sexuality. If you trust someone enough to take vows to stay by them until death, then you should love them enough to realize that human beings need variety and adventure. Sure, it may not be for everyone, but it is extremely liberating. 

The world would be a much better place if people got laid more.
2014-02-08 01:25:10 PM
2 votes:
Married women don't want to have sex with their own husbands.

FTFY
2014-02-08 01:23:38 PM
2 votes:

namatad: HAHAHH HAHAHAH AHHAHAHAH HAHHAHAAH
OR, she could realize that there are more important things than withholding sex from her husband?

step 1) enter into a binding. monogamous relationship
step 2) withhold sex
step 3) wonder why they cheat or divorce you

I wonder how many men would get married if there was a sex clause in their prenuptials.


Look I get that things change over time, but why are they in a monogamous relationship which they refuse to have sex and expect their spouse to do the same?
I get that some people might not care, we are talking about the other 99% of unsexed spouses.

/the number of unhappy. unsexed, married people that I know cracks me up.
/strange, the recently divorced woman that I know is one of the happiest people. she left her sexless marriage and had moved on with her life. She is also one of the most religious people I know. She went with LIFE over setting such a terrible example for her children.
/csb


Withholding sex, huh?  Like, "Look I have all this sex but I won't let you have any of it"?  Do you know how many women would save their marriages if it was just as simple as "stop withholding"?  Probably not.  Since the idea that anything could be more important than sexual compatibility made you type out "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA," I'm just going to have to assume you are about as sexually mature as a middle schooler.
2014-02-08 01:16:10 PM
2 votes:
This is why ladies night down at the blind pig is a must go. All of those poor, sex deprived wives and only one me....

/ anyone else notice that if you're hanging out with a girl; other girls come to. Like bleached blonde bumble bees to a flower. Like stilettoed sharks, circling a baby dolphin.
2014-02-08 01:13:25 PM
2 votes:

QU!RK1019: namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"

Or, gee, you could suck it up and realize there are things more important in life than getting your rocks off.


HAHAHH HAHAHAH AHHAHAHAH HAHHAHAAH
OR, she could realize that there are more important things than withholding sex from her husband?

step 1) enter into a binding. monogamous relationship
step 2) withhold sex
step 3) wonder why they cheat or divorce you

I wonder how many men would get married if there was a sex clause in their prenuptials.


Look I get that things change over time, but why are they in a monogamous relationship which they refuse to have sex and expect their spouse to do the same?
I get that some people might not care, we are talking about the other 99% of unsexed spouses.

/the number of unhappy. unsexed, married people that I know cracks me up.
/strange, the recently divorced woman that I know is one of the happiest people. she left her sexless marriage and had moved on with her life. She is also one of the most religious people I know. She went with LIFE over setting such a terrible example for her children.
/csb
2014-02-08 01:12:59 PM
2 votes:
It's almost as if women want men that act like men and that turns them on.
2014-02-08 01:01:08 PM
2 votes:
TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"
2014-02-08 12:22:26 PM
2 votes:

Prey4reign: They finally unlocked the key to marriage.


How do you unlock a key?
2014-02-08 11:59:20 AM
2 votes:
They finally unlocked the key to marriage.
2014-02-09 05:45:40 AM
1 votes:

Bucky Katt: Marriage sounds like just so much fun!


Honestly all human relationships are complicated. We live in a world that created the likes of Bill O'Reilly and Al Sharpton and threw them on the same planet together. At the same time. The Almighty FSM has a sense of humor if nothing else.

How any of us ever get around to farking at all is a miracle. How we ever pair down all the complexity that makes us up as humans to build lives, homes and rear children is amazing when you think about it.

It can be fun. It can be wonderful. But we have yet to build a world where all types of relationships, families and ways of living are not just "tolerated" but supported. And where people are really given the tools and helps they need to nurture these relationships - not just keep them on life support.
2014-02-08 11:24:25 PM
1 votes:
FTFA:  (wife is talking about what turns her on about hubby)
"It's when you're just back from the gym and you're all sweaty and you take off your clothes to get in the shower and I see your muscles."
Her husband countered by saying that this very situation had occurred that morning but that his wife became irritated when he tossed his clothes on the floor...

Threw clothes on the floor.. and then wonders why his wife got irritated?  What a genius.

Would he be irritated if she dropped tools onto the garage floor instead of putting them on the workbench?
2014-02-08 10:45:11 PM
1 votes:

Guest: Hermione_Granger: Dear Men,

Stop listening to shiat like this written by some guy who hasn't seen pussy since he crawled out of one.

Look, If you shag your wife on the regular, you will find that she does all the housework and will shut the fark up about it. Women need dick like plants need rain. Don't shag your wife and she will biatch about everything else. But it's really the lack of dick she's pissed about.

She doesn't just need dick. She needs seduction and romance. She needs a sexy smack on the ass now and again and occasionally, a fark just because.

fark your wife. fark her hard, fark her often. It's not that women don't want sex. They just don't want your lazy, tired imitating porn sex that you think she wants. Lick her, spank her, pull her hair. fark the shiat out of her at least every two or three days.

She will do the housework because she'll be happy. You may even get steak.

Now. Ask me how I know?

Remarried and farking happy, that's why. Good dick and a lot of it, makes me a lot less biatchy. Just saying.

It's not feminist. It's not politically correct. It's just farking true.

Go shag your wife.


My husband asks me why I always make him do the pursuing.  Well I will tell why.  because when he has to chase and he does so he really wants it and when he really wants it.   HIS DICK IS farkING HARDER AND THE SEX IS farkING BETTER.

there I said it.


Enjoy your inevitable divorce. I am going to hope for your sake that this is not exclusively how you handle sex in your marriage. If it is a obstacle course every time your husband wants sex, then you are doing it wrong and I pity him.
2014-02-08 08:58:04 PM
1 votes:
She believes that lesbian and heterosexual couples share sexual challenges because both relationships involve women

Sounds about right.
2014-02-08 07:25:55 PM
1 votes:

QU!RK1019: Carousel Beast: You;re either trolling or stupid, which is it?

Or do you support being in uncommunicative marriages, too?

Well, I'm fantastically intelligent, so I guess I must be trolling.  I don't know where you're getting that, but ok.


I'll use small words, just for you.

If I decide not to meet my wife's need for communication, and therefore go months without talking to her, would you similarly insult her if she decided to complain that I wasn't meeting her needs in the relationship?

Physical intimacy isn't optional, stupid, or juvenile. It's a necessary component of a healthy, monogamous relationship. Kind of like talking to one another.
2014-02-08 07:13:23 PM
1 votes:

FunkOut: Occam's Nailfile: FunkOut: Funny how some people are like "Sexual desire is something immature stupid people feel. When you get older and wise, you realise how silly and meaningless sex is and you can rise above such a base fleshly desire."

Not what I'm saying.  I'm saying, as you get older (unless you're just an asshole), you'll realize that one of the certainties of marriage is that there will be periods - sometimes PAINFULLY long ones - where the bedroom cools off, and if you love your spouse, you'll weather it.

Still sounds like "Sex isn't important. Get over the other person not being interested in you. Become their roommate."


The best part is that after you wait a little bit.. and then keep on waiting like Occam wants, for the day to come when the switch is flipped... you end up
bing 15 -20 years of paying for everything while she is banging the mailman every other day and the UPS man every other Thursday (and you thought she was running an eBay business..ha!)

then.. you finally give up and get the divorce and all your patience is rewarded with "Bo hooooo I gave so many years of my life.. the BEST ONES.. and now I have nothing, and then
you get to pay her alimony for another 10-15 years"  It's a tough economy, don't you know?!
2014-02-08 07:01:32 PM
1 votes:

QU!RK1019: namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"

Or, gee, you could suck it up and realize there are things more important in life than getting your rocks off.


www.rottenecards.com
2014-02-08 06:29:37 PM
1 votes:
If sex isn't important, have a friend become a roommate and marry them.
2014-02-08 06:21:35 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: Utter claptrap.

I do an equal share of housework. I get laid WAY more now than in my last marriage where I was basically forbidden to do housework because I "did it wrong."

Some women just don't like sex. Some MEN just don't get into sex. Find the person that "clicks" with you, treat them right, and everything will be hunky dory.


blog.zap2it.com
2014-02-08 06:19:56 PM
1 votes:

QU!RK1019: The main point I'm making here is that too many men have been using decreased sex as grounds for a divorce. Really, they just want to run away from their problems, and they find receptive company when they justify it with sex. It also washes their hands of any guilt in the break up. "Everything was fine, she just stopped giving it up, so I had to do what was best for me."


I doubt that. I think most guys are smart enough to try their best before leaving. They know they're more likely to get regular sex from someone familiar they know and love and who they used to have regular sex with, rather than dealing with being single and competing in that market. I think it's safe to assume if they're considering divorce they've already tried other avenues first and have convinced themselves there's no other option (whether they were doing it effectively and understanding why they were doing it is another story).
2014-02-08 06:17:54 PM
1 votes:
Utter claptrap.

I do an equal share of housework. I get laid WAY more now than in my last marriage where I was basically forbidden to do housework because I "did it wrong."

Some women just don't like sex. Some MEN just don't get into sex. Find the person that "clicks" with you, treat them right, and everything will be hunky dory.
2014-02-08 06:11:15 PM
1 votes:
There are two masculine roles that are always present within a woman's life - the payer and the player.

The only anomaly is that at the beginning a new relationship, a single man can perform both roles.

/misogynist
//don't need "saving" so save your breath.
2014-02-08 05:56:11 PM
1 votes:

Occam's Nailfile: FunkOut: Funny how some people are like "Sexual desire is something immature stupid people feel. When you get older and wise, you realise how silly and meaningless sex is and you can rise above such a base fleshly desire."

Not what I'm saying.  I'm saying, as you get older (unless you're just an asshole), you'll realize that one of the certainties of marriage is that there will be periods - sometimes PAINFULLY long ones - where the bedroom cools off, and if you love your spouse, you'll weather it.


Yes, and in almost every single case I've heard (and definitely not from personal experience), for the **rest of their lives and marriage.**

I believe that's the issue some people of this thread are facing. There's painfully long dry spells, and then there's "don't worry, more sex sometime soon (aka - never! Haha!)" spells.
2014-02-08 05:55:03 PM
1 votes:

Gulper Eel: Specifically, if men did all of what the researchers characterized as feminine chores like folding laundry, cooking or vacuuming - the kinds of things many women say they want their husbands to do - then couples had sex 1.5 fewer times per month

Dammit.

I wish somebody had told me this today -BEFORE- I woke up at 4 in the morning to feed the cats, washed, dried, folded and put away four loads of laundry, cleaned the four-cat litterbox (including scrubbing up the vomit they left behind) and the cats' water-streaming thingy that fills up with whatever slimy repulsive crap they drop in it, took the kids out to buy a friend's birthday present, bought some new vacuum cleaner bags (yes, dear, the HEPA bags of course), made lunch and dinner for the kids, did two loads of dishes, polished the cooktop, vacuumed and scrubbed the floors until you could eat off them, and helped my daughter with her homework.

I'm not getting any until 2018, am I?


Not even then.
2014-02-08 05:27:24 PM
1 votes:
You all sound like you need to get laid.
2014-02-08 05:06:20 PM
1 votes:

Occam's Nailfile: Fafai: Occam's Nailfile: And the "split up, it's better for the kids" myth is a farking JOKE. That's the excuse people use when they are too selfish to work on a marriage, and they don't want to burden themselves with the guilt of destroying their family by bailing out.

Sometimes, maybe, but surely you've got to agree that kids should not remain in dysfunctional or abusive families if it can be helped? No teo cases are the same. I was able to work on/fix my marriage when we hit the sexless part after the birth of our child (now things are better than when we were dating) but if I had put in all that work and she didn't reciprocate? I would have left. And fark you for telling me that would be selfish. Selfish is trying to keep someone in your pocket through manipulation and guilt.

I totally agree that an abusive relationship is worse on children than a divorce, we're on the same page there.

If you have kids though man, and you bail out because you're not getting laid enough, you have decided that your need to have someone else give you an orgasm is more important than the benefit you can give your kids by giving them a stable home.

You've nailed it though - you worked on it, and you kept working on it, and things got better.  What if it took an extra month, or an extra year?  Would that have been too much, to preserve your family?


While we all know about celebrity marriages which only last a month and I am sure that the same thing happens in real life, what are you talking about?
FEW people are together long enough to have kids and get divorce after 1 month of trying to fix the marriage.

Either the marriage was broken for a long time, and it just looks like they only spent a month, or they spend enough time to realize that it will never get fixed. That could take one day.

After dating the same woman for two years, I learned that she was still mourning the death of her mother, after ten years. I got out. If she was unable to move on and live a life after 10 years of mourning, there was nothing that I could do to fix that. Nothing. Until she fixed it, until she worked on it, until she was ready. 
You can not fix people. 

You can fix the dynamic between you and them, you can improve communication, and what not.
But if they are broken, you cant fix the relationship.

So how long should you stay in a marriage once you learn that your wife has been cheating on you since your wedding day? Why would you try to fix that? Just because you have kids or it might be hard?

bah
2014-02-08 05:05:41 PM
1 votes:

Occam's Nailfile: If you have kids though man, and you bail out because you're not getting laid enough, you have decided that your need to have someone else give you an orgasm is more important than the benefit you can give your kids by giving them a stable home.


Well it isn't that simple. There'd be options discussed before splitting. At what point does it become the withholding partner's 'decision' to end things by not allowing the high desire partner to go outside the marriage?

Occam's Nailfile: What if it took an extra month, or an extra year? Would that have been too much, to preserve your family?


I told her I had a 'due date' set where if I didn't see the improvement I was looking for then I'd start lawyering up. I didn't tell her what this date was because, and I told her, I didn't want her basically just circling it on a calendar and artificially 'shaping up' until that day just to keep up appearances before falling back into the rut. ...I had months to spare, btw, when things started to really improve. But you have to stick to your guns at some point. And nothing was ever going to prevent me from loving my son and being in his life so 'to preserve the family' is a bit dramatic.
2014-02-08 05:04:21 PM
1 votes:

Fafai: Withholding sex


Withholding sex =/= not having sex.  Sure, withholding sex is emotionally abusive, and probably comes along with lots of other emotionally abusive behavior.  But when a woman doesn't want to have sex, that doesn't mean she's withholding it.  Like I said, there are countless reasons why a woman might be in sexless phase in her life.  And nearly all women will be in that phase at some points.  Lots of men go through those phases, too.
2014-02-08 05:00:24 PM
1 votes:

namatad: Occam's Nailfile: Fafai: They're wrong if they think they can't survive without sex, but not about the first part. No sex is indeed a valid reason to end it. Sayign otherwise is like saying you think people should tolerate physical abuse so long as it doesn't actually kill them.

LOL.  How old are you people?  Lack of sex =/= physical abuse.  It's not even in the same zip code.  Grow the hell up.

LOL
Agreed.
But you do agree that there are many different and valid reasons for ending a marriage, and that lack of sex is one of them. Right?


I do not agree that lack of sex is one of them.  Lack of sex + treating you with contempt and disdain all the time, sure.  Lack of sex is a fixable, temporary thing, and it happens in EVERY SINGLE MARRIAGE at some point.  And if it's not fixable - maybe your spouse has a physical or psychological problem - well, that's what the whole, "in sickness and in health" part meant.
2014-02-08 04:49:48 PM
1 votes:

Fafai: They're wrong if they think they can't survive without sex, but not about the first part. No sex is indeed a valid reason to end it. Sayign otherwise is like saying you think people should tolerate physical abuse so long as it doesn't actually kill them.


LOL.  How old are you people?  Lack of sex =/= physical abuse.  It's not even in the same zip code.  Grow the hell up.
2014-02-08 04:48:44 PM
1 votes:

Fafai: This thread is making me feel a lot better about being married. It isn't for everyone and I have to get used to the idea of marriage and monogamy in general becoming less popular and that could be a good thing overall without necessarily reflecting on my own relationship but for certain personality types monogamy is the best path to having crazy, kinky, boundary-pushing sex. My marriage is very much a sexual arrangement as much as anything and if sex is important to people they should be upfront and honest with their partners about it and stand up for themselves by refusing to settle for less. There is absolutely nothing wrong with placing a high priority on increasingly good sex and holding your partner accountable for their end of it.


THIS

In the end marriage is a relationship bound by many dimensions, which are different for everyone, which include compromise and communication. Some of those things are important to you and your spouse, others are not.

Religion
Children
Sex and Intimacy
Money
Politics
Common Interests
Separate Hobbies
etc etc etc

But in the end, if your needs are not being met, in enough of the dimensions, you will meet them one way or the other.
2014-02-08 04:45:35 PM
1 votes:

Occam's Nailfile: And the "split up, it's better for the kids" myth is a farking JOKE. That's the excuse people use when they are too selfish to work on a marriage, and they don't want to burden themselves with the guilt of destroying their family by bailing out.


Sometimes, maybe, but surely you've got to agree that kids should not remain in dysfunctional or abusive families if it can be helped? No teo cases are the same. I was able to work on/fix my marriage when we hit the sexless part after the birth of our child (now things are better than when we were dating) but if I had put in all that work and she didn't reciprocate? I would have left. And fark you for telling me that would be selfish. Selfish is trying to keep someone in your pocket through manipulation and guilt.
2014-02-08 04:38:01 PM
1 votes:

HotIgneous Intruder: tylerdurden217: No sex is a legitimate reason for divorce.

There are people who think this.
They also think they can't live without sex.

They are wrong.


They're wrong if they think they can't survive without sex, but not about the first part. No sex is indeed a valid reason to end it. Sayign otherwise is like saying you think people should tolerate physical abuse so long as it doesn't actually kill them.
2014-02-08 04:33:45 PM
1 votes:

tylerdurden217: No sex is a legitimate reason for divorce.


There are people who think this.
They also think they can't live without sex.

They are wrong.
2014-02-08 04:33:32 PM
1 votes:
This thread is making me feel a lot better about being married. It isn't for everyone and I have to get used to the idea of marriage and monogamy in general becoming less popular and that could be a good thing overall without necessarily reflecting on my own relationship but for certain personality types monogamy is the best path to having crazy, kinky, boundary-pushing sex. My marriage is very much a sexual arrangement as much as anything and if sex is important to people they should be upfront and honest with their partners about it and stand up for themselves by refusing to settle for less. There is absolutely nothing wrong with placing a high priority on increasingly good sex and holding your partner accountable for their end of it.
2014-02-08 04:16:36 PM
1 votes:
Women aren't turned on by whipped effeminate men? Get me my fainting couch.
2014-02-08 03:40:08 PM
1 votes:

Egalitarian: This BS again? Plenty of straight men who don't want to have sex with their long-term partner as often as the gal would prefer. Of course, when men start holding out on sex, it's because of their promiscuous biological urges or being tired of the same old vag or some crap. Whereas women who do the same are stereotypical withholding frigid wives. (if a woman gets tired of the same old peen, that's a whole 'nother firestorm).

Also like to point out, there are so many guys out there who can't stand it when their woman tries to initiate sex ... it has to be completely on the man's schedule and terms. Woman acts horny at anything but the appointed time? OH NOEZ SCARY!!! GET AWAY!


Wait, what? Seriously?

You're saying there are guys that'll turn down sex just because the woman initiated?

I. . .I. . . I don't understand. . .
2014-02-08 03:37:07 PM
1 votes:
After a single year of not just a sexless marriage, but one with zero intimacy at all from her side, I sat her down and explained that I refused to live this way for the rest of my life and I asked her what - if anything - I could do to fix things (things that were apparently always broken)
She mostly shrugged and then used my offer as a way to get me to do laundry and cleaning.
I called her bluff and took over chores. You know what happened? Nothing. Her libido stayed exactly where it was.
So I asked her for a divorce and got the Hell out of there just shy of our two year anniversary.

Don't marry a prude.
Don't ever convince yourself that things will get better.
2014-02-08 03:35:28 PM
1 votes:
You can get the best of both worlds in the feminine housework vs sex thing. She works longer hours than me, so the laundry is pretty much my job. But I do it like I would if I was a bachelor. I don't match the socks together before putting them away (I buy my socks in bulk for this very purpose), I refuse to learn how to fold women's clothing. I just kind of shove it wherever. Bras and socks and everything just get crammed into the same drawer in a big messy jumble.

I think this works because it doesn't 'feminize' me so she can still be attracted because although I'm doing feminine work, I'm still being manly about it. Also, although I accomplish these tasks shoddily, I take pride in other areas so it evens out. And she does appreciate that I do it. She's not dumb or selfish enough to curse me while looking for matching socks in the morning. She knows without me she'd be doing a lot more than that.

Doing the work itself leads to more sex because it de-stresses her and with women sexual desire and low stress must goes hand in hand but it's true you can't do the woman's work like a woman and expect her to want to fark while she watches you expertly folding dresses and blouses like they're your own clothes. Also try to show a little disdain for doing it too. But don't overdo that.
2014-02-08 02:48:16 PM
1 votes:

Peepeye: baconbeard: Peepeye: I'm a female who is engaged. All these comments are freaking me out a bit. The very few times I've turned him down are when he wakes me up for a morning quickie, although I usually don't mind. And if I wake him up at night....he's always willing. We work a lot. Lack of time is our issue.

Sounds like lack of time is your issue, not his. Good luck... you'll need it.

Being woken up after 4 hrs of sleep for a quickie is different than waking up at the same time to go to work. If he shot me down for the same reason I would understand. Nice try though.


But that's the point. He wouldn't turn it down.
2014-02-08 02:43:33 PM
1 votes:

m00: QU!RK1019: Withholding sex, huh? Like, "Look I have all this sex but I won't let you have any of it"?

This is a really astute point. Withholding sex presupposes that sex is a "thing" that one can "have" and one partner has it in abundance, and only needs to "share'

Whereas in reality sex is an activity that both partners ought to enjoy, and a man who wants to have more sex in his marriage needs to figure out what he's doing wrong that makes it undesirable for his wife.

NOW... the problem... is I think very often women are unreasonable in this respect. A man can turn himself on, or lets say really focus on sex. It's not like a man would be "oh, I wanted sex but then I started thinking about how the trash needs to be taken out." But I think women often expect men to turn them on, and remove all distractions... and are generally in a position of being more demanding (in terms of "if you want to have sex with me, then you need to do X Y and Z") than they have even 30 or 40 years ago. And it can get very emotionally manipulative.

Ultimately, the answer is a man shouldn't marry a woman who is unreasonable in this respect, and a woman shouldn't marry a man who sees sex has a thing he can have. But then most people would be single.


Actually, that kind of thinking isn't always helpful.  It can actually hurt both partners to think that there's something wrong with what they're doing.  I've heard from many people - men and women - who still think their partner is the sexiest person they know, but they just don't get aroused as often as they used to.  It's hard for them to convince their partner that they still love and desire them.  Conversely, it can be very depressing to think that you're doing something wrong and not attracting your spouse any more.

In some cases it is the truth.  But in many others, both partners need to learn to accept that it's far more complex than that.
2014-02-08 02:42:42 PM
1 votes:

SearchN: Ionessa: baconbeard: Egalitarian: Also like to point out, there are so many guys out there who can't stand it when their woman tries to initiate sex ... it has to be completely on the man's schedule and terms. Woman acts horny at anything but the appointed time? OH NOEZ SCARY!!! GET AWAY!

[img.fark.net image 215x159]

Sadly can be true. I'm in a relationship like that currently. Everything has to be on his schedule and based on his mood, meanwhile I'm horny as hell with no outlet. I still try my best to try to initiate despite the fact though. He's damn lucky that I'm so loyal, to say the least.

I am sure lots of farkers would be happy to help you out with that..


that fruit was so low you could win the limbo Olympics if you could get under it.
2014-02-08 02:30:06 PM
1 votes:

shtychkn: bubbles_nw2003: I'm old, we have a young child, and my sex drive has suffered.  Mu hubby is also free to fnd some elsewhere (as am I).  He does, I haven't.  We are happy.  It's not even that we never have sex. It's just a few times a month instead of a few times a week.  I get he needs more even if I don't.

It doesn't have to be so complicated.

Not until he finds someone heed rather be spending his time with than you and the kid. Cause causal flings are less stress then real relationships.


That could happen in any relationship and is probably more likely if the on the side has to be covert.  If that happens, we will work it out or move on.  He is a dedicated partner and father at this point but nothing is guaranteed in any relationship.
2014-02-08 02:22:46 PM
1 votes:

namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"


Because of teh gheys, of course.

Sex should ONLY be for joyless procreation according to the fundamental folks.

Except if you're cheating.
Or banging the hot secretary.
Or at the No-Tell Motel.
Or at the airport bathroom stall.
Or the local adult theater..
Or if the altar boy is REALLY cute.

But, NEVER for your own sick, twisted, dirty pleasures or for your partner's sake either!!'

/Yup, it's retarded
//Had women friends who bragged about cutting off sex at marriage
///Poor bastards still married them
2014-02-08 02:17:45 PM
1 votes:

Egalitarian: Also like to point out, there are so many guys out there who can't stand it when their woman tries to initiate sex ... it has to be completely on the man's schedule and terms. Woman acts horny at anything but the appointed time? OH NOEZ SCARY!!! GET AWAY!


img.fark.net
2014-02-08 02:15:32 PM
1 votes:

QU!RK1019: namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"

Or, gee, you could suck it up and realize there are things more important in life than getting your rocks off.


Posted from the highest porn-consuming state in the union.
2014-02-08 02:08:57 PM
1 votes:

jxb465: autopsybeverage: Theory Of Null: There is really no reason left to get married. Well, except for taxes.

I owe far more in taxes every year married filing jointly than I did single. This is because with two incomes, we are in a higher tax bracket.

The tax breaks come when you agree to give creepy Uncle Sam children to use as he sees fit in his nation-building games, I assume.

If you are in a higher tax bracket because you are filing MFJ instead of Single, then you make waaaay too much money for me to feel sorry for you. For the other 99%, being married puts you into a lower tax bracket.


Lol, wasn't asking for pity, just presenting a counter to the "woohoo taxes" argument. Which, if both partners have incomes, may (or may not, I guess) be utter bullshiat.

Consult your accountant prior to marriage, though, if that's your sole reason for jumping in. Depending on your accountant, I guess it can even be sexy.
2014-02-08 02:00:44 PM
1 votes:

Arthen: namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"

Sexless != unhappy


For some
and for others, it is part of pattern which leads to misery.
Your mileage may vary.

Did you also notice, that I used a COMMA?
Sexless, unhappy.
Two parts of the marriage, not casual, possibly causal, certainly part of the definition of many marriages.
Is the marriage unhappy because it is sexless, sexless because it is unhappy?
Doesnt matter.

IF your marriage is sexless AND unhappy, why are you there again? 
So many unhappy people, so little time.
2014-02-08 01:54:05 PM
1 votes:

namatad: TL;DR: Married women don't want to have sex with their husbands

TADA
If your wife wont fark you, tell her you are getting sex elsewhere.
If she has a problem with this, divorce her.
TADA


./seriously, why is anyone in a sexless, unhappy marriage these days? the kids? WAY TO fark up your children. "Marriage should be unhappy, just like us!!"


Sexless != unhappy
2014-02-08 01:48:22 PM
1 votes:
This is why I don't get married. I just date a girl for a few years, get bored with her and break up with her. Easier than cheating and marriage would just complicate the break-up.
2014-02-08 01:48:09 PM
1 votes:

bubbles_nw2003: I'm old, we have a young child, and my sex drive has suffered.  Mu hubby is also free to fnd some elsewhere (as am I).  He does, I haven't.  We are happy.  It's not even that we never have sex. It's just a few times a month instead of a few times a week.  I get he needs more even if I don't.

It doesn't have to be so complicated.


Not until he finds someone heed rather be spending his time with than you and the kid. Cause causal flings are less stress then real relationships.
2014-02-08 01:46:09 PM
1 votes:
FTA: "masculine chores, like ... fixing the car"


Slightly off topic...  I'm an engineer at a large company (about 3000 employees at this site) and I would expect engineers to have the competence to tackle auto repairs.  Nope.  I'm the only man I know who even does his own oil changes.  I've never had my car to a garage for anything other than an inspection, and I'm by no means a master mechanic.  Fixing cars is not particularly difficult if you have the right tools.  My observation is that lots of men are pretty helpless when it comes to fixing the car.

LOL at the people who pay a dealer $75+ for a synthetic oil change.  AutoZone synthetic is $20/jug, and Amazon has Fram filters for $3 when you subscribe-and-save.  Do your own oil changes, and take that $50 you're saving and treat your spouse to a nice dinner.
2014-02-08 01:41:30 PM
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fozziewazzi: Theory Of Null: There is really no reason left to get married. Well, except for taxes.

I had a cousin who had been 'engaged' for several years and finally got married when the couple realized they were missing out on tax savings.  Very romantic.


Folks also hold off on marriage due to lopsided debts as well.  No one wants to enter into a new level of relationship and realize that the tax savings are overshadowed by the fact they now owe hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Nearly everything that a marriage (in the US) has as 'benefits' can be found through other means with more flexibility that wehn entering into the agreement with the state.  Three persons in every marriage: bridge, groom, state.
2014-02-08 01:33:05 PM
1 votes:

Witness99: Why do people "get married" ( Bwahahahahaha, oh you're serious, let me laugh harder), in 2014 first world countries?


Income taxes and health insurance coverage.
2014-02-08 01:32:25 PM
1 votes:

walktoanarcade: Once a woman stops feeling like she's pursued, she gets bored.


This is such a bullshiat argument.

If a woman plays the "chase me" game, then once you're married, the man's CAUGHT you.  You're hung up on the wall of his den as a trophy.  The game is over.  He stops hunting because he  won.

You could, instead, not make courtship a pursuit game in the first place.

If a woman needs to feel pursued, it's because of deep-seated insecurities.  That's pretty much it.
2014-02-08 01:25:51 PM
1 votes:

namatad: My ex recently asked me if we could get remarried. She promised sex once a month. Which would have been an infinite improvement. I countered with 3 times a day. She stopped emailing me again, thank science.


Oh that explains everything, actually.
2014-02-08 12:39:38 PM
1 votes:

incendi: Prey4reign: They finally unlocked the key to marriage.

How do you unlock a key?


it's keys all the way down
 
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