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(WAVY Virginia)   Disgusting child pornographer caught and charged for tweeting nude pictures of innocent 16-year-old girl   (wavy.com) divider line 157
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2014-02-08 11:37:17 AM  

The One True TheDavid: From Wikipedia:

"The age of consent in Virginia is 18, with a close-in-age exception that allows teenagers aged 15 to 17 to engage in sexual acts but only with a partner younger than 18."

So she is old enough to masturbate, barely.


Ok, so according to that law, there could be a couple, aged 16 and 17, who could legally have sex. But then, the minute the older one turns 18 it would suddenly be illegal?

Seems like somebody didn't think this all the way through...
 
2014-02-08 11:37:53 AM  

rwhamann: This is bullshiat. It dilutes the meaning of a sex crime conviction, much like tarring someone for life over public urination.


GOOD thing that most of the child porn laws are written just as poorly.
Change them or charge her.

WHAT if it were her 15yo boyfriend taking the photos?
Would you want to charge him too?

OUR country is retarded when it comes to teenage sex.
The laws are written by morons who have forgotten that they all had sex when they were teens and would have taken pics if they could have.
 
2014-02-08 11:39:33 AM  

ununcle: I remember back in the AOL days there was some website that listed known "sex offenders". It was like a Google map type thing and if you moused over the tag it gave the names and address of the said offender. At the time I lived across the street from a high school. I could not believe there were like 20 within a several mile radius of my house and hundreds throughout the city.. I sat my daughter down (She was 14 or 15 at the time) down and explained that this is why she was to come home right after school and not hang out at the park or Dunkin Doughnuts. It was years later I found out that urinating in public (not on a bus, but behind a tree) got you classified as a sex offender. It's become a farkin witch hunt plain and simple. I wonder how much money the state makes from this shiate.


WORSE
How many lives are ruined by this shiat. Seriously.
Stop calling streaking and public exposure a sex crime.

Didnt some kid get charged recently for mooning a school bus? LOL
SEX CRIME!

/we are so retarded
 
2014-02-08 11:39:49 AM  
By all means, let's ruin this dumb kid's life. The punishment is her nekkid self all over the intarwebs.
 
2014-02-08 11:44:02 AM  
So actresses who are under 18 years of age can appear naked in a movie (Brooke Shields, Thora Birch, Keira Knightley, Jodie Foster's sister) and as long as it's not sexual in nature (no penetration, oral contact, sexualized touching, etc.) it's perfectly legal and can be distributed nationwide without a single prosecution.

But a 16-year-old takes a naked selfie and suddenly we have to prosecute her to protect her from herself because she's a child pornographer?!  How does this make any sense?

When did we as a nation become so freaked out by naked adolescents? Nudity does not equal sex. There was no sexual assault here. There was no sexual misconduct here. What good is it going to do to treat a girl like a sex offender for something as benign as take a naked picture of herself?

I'm pretty sure NOBODY watched American Beauty and then turned into an ephebophile and ran around victimizing teenage girls because Thora Birch showed the world her breasts.

It's time the laws were changed. Nudity should be decriminalized. If there's no sex, no penetration, no blatant sexual conduct in the photo (touching, spreading, inserting, etc.) then it's just a picture of a human body. It's only sexual if you look upon with sexual desire, and that falls on the viewer; Not the subject or the photographer.

YES, protect adolescents and kids from pornography. Don't let them be the subject of pornographic imagery or video... But nudity is not pornographic.

Now, if the girl posted a photo of herself with a dildo shoved halfway in... Well, then she needs some counseling and probably needs to have her camera and social networking taken away for a while. But if it's just some topless shots? Spare the girl, stop obsessing over nudity, and spend the time and energy to prosecute real predators, like the boys in Steubenville and millions like them across the country.
 
2014-02-08 11:50:55 AM  

Nick Nostril: By all means, let's ruin this dumb kid's life. The punishment is her nekkid self all over the intarwebs.


Aww, that is just the beginning.
Most bullies hope the victim will off themselves.

Seriously sick peeps doing this zhit all day long under the guise of "think of the children".
 
m00
2014-02-08 11:54:48 AM  

ZeroCorpse: So actresses who are under 18 years of age can appear naked in a movie (Brooke Shields, Thora Birch, Keira Knightley, Jodie Foster's sister) and as long as it's not sexual in nature (no penetration, oral contact, sexualized touching, etc.) it's perfectly legal and can be distributed nationwide without a single prosecution.

But a 16-year-old takes a naked selfie and suddenly we have to prosecute her to protect her from herself because she's a child pornographer?!  How does this make any sense?


Who is going to legally prosecute Hollywood? Underage actresses can probably appear naked in a Hollywood movie even if it's sexual in nature. They can appear in fashion shows and American Eagle catalogs. On the cover of rock albums. Media corporations with very good lawyers on retainer can make stuff that is worse than what's considered child porn for everyone else.

But no DA anywhere in the US is going to bring charges against Hollywood, the fashion industry, advertisement and media conglomerates. The cost to the DA's office to get a win from such a trial would cripple the budget. But some random teen who takes a selfie, yeah that's an easy conviction and +1 to the "tough crime" statistics.
 
2014-02-08 11:56:16 AM  

ZeroCorpse: When did we as a nation become so freaked out by naked adolescents?


Where have you been?  We are freaked out by EVERYTHING.

Terrorists, porn, drugs, abortions, guns, gay marriage, big government, small government, pedophile priests, pedophile teachers, vaccines, not getting vaccinated, GMOs, meat-eaters, gluten, peanuts, free trade, tariffs, unions, "right-to-work", privacy, PATRIOT, Gitmo, teen pregnancy, sex education, religion, atheism, the 1%, zero-tolerance, crime, standardized testing, charter schools, home schooling, College tuition costs, not getting a degree, unemployment, HOAs, LGBT people, rednecks, gangbangers, illegal aliens, H1B workers, taxes, reduced government services, cruise ships, H1N1, and the Illuminati.

The 24-hour news cycle and its consolidation into a few hands has screwed up our national character completely.  We get whipped up by a point issue and immediately demand something be done, even if we have no concept of the impact.

It's OK though.  It's All For The ChildrenTM.
 
2014-02-08 11:58:46 AM  

yakmans_dad: Nudity is not pornography.


FTA, it says that because of the lewdness of the photos, that it had to be upgraded to pornography from normal sexting.

Not that I'm defending this bullshiat, but I wonder what was so "lewd"? Was it something more than mere nudity?

As someone said in a marijuana thread, if the punishment of the "crime" is orders of magnitude more damaging than the act itself, then the law is insanely unjust.
 
ozo
2014-02-08 12:05:53 PM  
Article said the nature of pictures elevated it from normal sexting. She didnt send them to just her bf as they were found on twitter. Just a question, but lets say she is doing this for cash, is on not child porn then? She is stil the victm, but shes also the distributor. No easy way to go about it.

From the article also, it doesnt mention of anyone actually prosecuting her for it only that jail time is possible for child pornography. It says counseling is an option.
 
2014-02-08 12:07:24 PM  
"Police  say the teen crossed the line of sexting to child porn because of the lewdness of the photos."

What the hell, legally, does that even mean?  It's either a legal nude or illegal child porn. Are they creating some third, middle level out thin air?
 
2014-02-08 12:08:04 PM  

m00: ZeroCorpse: So actresses who are under 18 years of age can appear naked in a movie (Brooke Shields, Thora Birch, Keira Knightley, Jodie Foster's sister) and as long as it's not sexual in nature (no penetration, oral contact, sexualized touching, etc.) it's perfectly legal and can be distributed nationwide without a single prosecution.

But a 16-year-old takes a naked selfie and suddenly we have to prosecute her to protect her from herself because she's a child pornographer?!  How does this make any sense?

Who is going to legally prosecute Hollywood? Underage actresses can probably appear naked in a Hollywood movie even if it's sexual in nature. They can appear in fashion shows and American Eagle catalogs. On the cover of rock albums. Media corporations with very good lawyers on retainer can make stuff that is worse than what's considered child porn for everyone else.

But no DA anywhere in the US is going to bring charges against Hollywood, the fashion industry, advertisement and media conglomerates. The cost to the DA's office to get a win from such a trial would cripple the budget. But some random teen who takes a selfie, yeah that's an easy conviction and +1 to the "tough crime" statistics.


GDISM, it is not illegal when we do it!

And "we" got a license. Bought and paid for from the fools you elected.
HaHa
 
2014-02-08 12:09:29 PM  

Cortez the Killer: yakmans_dad: Nudity is not pornography.

FTA, it says that because of the lewdness of the photos, that it had to be upgraded to pornography from normal sexting.

Not that I'm defending this bullshiat, but I wonder what was so "lewd"? Was it something more than mere nudity?

As someone said in a marijuana thread, if the punishment of the "crime" is orders of magnitude more damaging than the act itself, then the law is insanely unjust.


That is entirely the point of bullies writing "laws".
 
2014-02-08 12:12:46 PM  
Maybe she is fingering herself in the pics or playing with her tatas, da horror! Yeah, it's pretty obvious they're vaguely threatening her with jail time to get her do the re-education program.

Wasn't there a similar case with some young (pre)teens in their underware and the DA there also tried this and it went through all kinds of courts instances because the parents refused the "counseling"?
 
m00
2014-02-08 12:16:00 PM  

snocone: That is entirely the point of bullies writing "laws".


In this instance, the victim needs to be avenged... by trying the perp as an adult and sending her to prison at 16, where male officers can watch her shower and she'll probably get raped.

That will protect her from herself texting pictures of her naked body!
 
2014-02-08 12:21:59 PM  

m00: snocone: That is entirely the point of bullies writing "laws".

In this instance, the victim needs to be avenged... by trying the perp as an adult and sending her to prison at 16, where male officers can watch her shower and she'll probably get raped.

That will protect her from herself texting pictures of her naked body!


I SEE The Light!
 
2014-02-08 12:40:20 PM  
17 years, 365 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes: You are a degenerate, perverted, maladjusted sicko deviant freak for looking at this female's nude body. You are a disgusting, demented blight on society for considering sexual thoughts about her. And she cannot understand or grasp the ramifications of or be held responsible for decisions regarding her own sexual activity.

One minute later: It's normal and accepted to lust after her and want to sex her. The woman now immediately develops all of the mental and emotional skills to handle sex and her sexuality. Game on.

Makes total sense.
 
2014-02-08 12:58:31 PM  
Thanks to the NSA, the feds must have the largest collection of teen porn in the world.
 
2014-02-08 01:01:17 PM  
rwhamann: This is bullshiat. It dilutes the meaning of a sex crime conviction, much like tarring someone for life over public urination.

As far as I can tell,. while this could thoretically happen according to some interpretations of the law, I don't think it actually has ever happened.   Doesn't stop it from being brought up as if it did happen in every sex-crime thread, tho!
 
zeg
2014-02-08 01:08:04 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: 17 years, 365 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes: You are a degenerate, perverted, maladjusted sicko deviant freak for looking at this female's nude body. You are a disgusting, demented blight on society for considering sexual thoughts about her. And she cannot understand or grasp the ramifications of or be held responsible for decisions regarding her own sexual activity.

One minute later: It's normal and accepted to lust after her and want to sex her. The woman now immediately develops all of the mental and emotional skills to handle sex and her sexuality. Game on.

Makes total sense.


Without getting into whether I agree with age of consent law as they are currently implemented, the logic isn't as broken as you make out. The reasoning that leads to the choice of age isn't, "At what point does a person develop the sophistication to meaningfully consent to sex," it is, "At what point can we have confidence that the person has developed that sophistication."

So if the age of consent is 18, that doesn't mean that something magical happens at 18, it just means that the authors of the rule judged that it was likely that many people under 18 are not sufficiently mature.

A benefit of a law written like this is legal certainty. If there is a specifically defined age of consent, you can avoid breaking the law by not having sex with anyone under that age. If there is no specific age and it is instead left to the discretion of the judge/jury, you cannot have that certainty.

Neither method is perfect, both have failure modes. Whether the laws as they are represent the best choice is debatable, but the logic behind them is not as broken as you imply.

None of this applies to the article, though. It has nothing to do with age of consent and everything to do with law enforcement and the judicial system failing miserably in their obligation to seek justice.
 
2014-02-08 01:24:09 PM  
Everyone who masturbates before the age of 18 needs to be arrested for child molestation.
 
2014-02-08 01:37:24 PM  

Nem Wan: "Police  say the teen crossed the line of sexting to child porn because of the lewdness of the photos."

What the hell, legally, does that even mean?  It's either a legal nude or illegal child porn. Are they creating some third, middle level out thin air?


Are you upset that police are their judgment to determine if it was porn?

Should the have some thoughtless zero tolerance policy instead?
 
2014-02-08 01:42:42 PM  
The American legal system has gone insane.
 
2014-02-08 01:44:31 PM  
Just wait until this generation is middle aged and some of them are running for president. Oh and they're reporters/commentators on FOXNEWS and MSNBC too. 

Everyone will be guilty of shennanigans on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and nobody can hide from it.

To really slander and defame people's reputations and credibility they're going to have to dig really deep.
 
2014-02-08 01:46:14 PM  

whither_apophis: Thanks to the NSA, the feds must have the largest collection of teen porn in the world.


Not only are they in possession of it, but they have tasks forces soliciting it from children. (have a seat over there)

Whats the penalty for that, huh? HUH?
 
2014-02-08 01:51:47 PM  

DreadnaughtZeta: Ok, so according to that law, there could be a couple, aged 16 and 17, who could legally have sex. But then, the minute the older one turns 18 it would suddenly be illegal?

Seems like somebody didn't think this all the way through...


Yes, absolutely.

A seventeen-year-old girl dated a 15-year-old girl while in high school. When the seventeen-year-old girl turned 18 the younger girl's parents went after her as a pedophile.
 
2014-02-08 01:55:30 PM  

m00: snocone: That is entirely the point of bullies writing "laws".

In this instance, the victim needs to be avenged... by trying the perp as an adult and sending her to prison at 16, where male officers can watch her shower and she'll probably get raped.

That will protect her from herself texting pictures of her naked body!


Fun fact: Before the 1960s, women's prisons were staffed almost entirely by female guards and men's prisons only by male guards. Then a provision of the Civil Rights Act outlawed such distinctions, so now half of all guards in women's prisons are men. I'm sure you'll also be unsurprised to know that the vast majority of reported sexual assaults in said prisons are committed by male guards rather than fellow inmates.

The point is, people can literally be getting raped, and numbnuts will be okay with it in the name of political correctness. I think it's the same sort of braindead thinking that leads to children being charged with production of child pornography for taking pictures of themselves.
 
2014-02-08 02:03:36 PM  

stuffy: Everyone who masturbates before the age of 18 needs to be arrested for child molestation.


I am turning myself in tomorrow :(
 
2014-02-08 02:14:37 PM  

hasty ambush: MechaPyx: Back in the day we'd just take away her phone and ground her for a week or two. Sheesh.


[www.lostrepublic.us image 720x468]


Right... Because we all know that these morality laws weren't written by the folks who claim to support smaller government...
 
2014-02-08 02:22:34 PM  

AngryDragon: ZeroCorpse: When did we as a nation become so freaked out by naked adolescents?

Where have you been?  We are freaked out by EVERYTHING.

Terrorists, porn, drugs, abortions, guns, gay marriage, big government, small government, pedophile priests, pedophile teachers, vaccines, not getting vaccinated, GMOs, meat-eaters, gluten, peanuts, free trade, tariffs, unions, "right-to-work", privacy, PATRIOT, Gitmo, teen pregnancy, sex education, religion, atheism, the 1%, zero-tolerance, crime, standardized testing, charter schools, home schooling, College tuition costs, not getting a degree, unemployment, HOAs, LGBT people, rednecks, gangbangers, illegal aliens, H1B workers, taxes, reduced government services, cruise ships, H1N1, and the Illuminati.

It's OK though.  It's All For The ChildrenTM.


Dragon captures zeitgeist, Farkers dumbfounded.
 
2014-02-08 02:24:21 PM  
They started doing this (charging the child with distributing child pornography) in Pennsylvania a few years ago and finally came to their senses and stopped this bullshiat bogus prosecution to "scare kids straight".

This crap is usually about an over-zealous, over-religious local prosecutor who is a self-aggrandizing asshat, not about helping children or protecting society.. The Police/Commonwealth's Attorney can't win a case against a real criminal, so they pick on a kid.

They should be ashamed.

/but they won't be
 
2014-02-08 02:29:04 PM  

jaylectricity: It won't be long before today's sexting teens will be tomorrows lawyers and lawmakers. It's just a transitional period, much like when blacks were first allowed to ride in the front of the bus.


Unless it's a paddy wagon - they still usually ride in the back of those.
 
2014-02-08 02:30:32 PM  

TomD9938: wambu: Police  say the teen crossed the line of sexting to child porn because of the lewdness of the photos.

So she's a dirty, dirty girl

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"Yes she is... Yes she is."


Back in high school, there were a few of these dirty, dirty girls. We all knew who they were. Over the past 40 years, I've seen them grew up to be fine people, good wives and good mothers. The only difference between then and now is that there are more girls who act like that and they probably face less shame for their behavior and they likely will grow up just as well.

Kids and young adults do some pretty damn stupid things.
 
2014-02-08 02:32:39 PM  
charged with child por

FTFA

does anybody read what they type????
 
2014-02-08 02:57:26 PM  
FTFA:
Police  say the teen crossed the line of sexting to child porn because of the lewdness of the photos.

Exactly how slutty is this slut?
 
2014-02-08 03:36:43 PM  
You know what I was doing to 14yr old girls when I was 17?
 
2014-02-08 03:42:16 PM  

DreadnaughtZeta: The One True TheDavid: From Wikipedia:

"The age of consent in Virginia is 18, with a close-in-age exception that allows teenagers aged 15 to 17 to engage in sexual acts but only with a partner younger than 18."

So she is old enough to masturbate, barely.

Ok, so according to that law, there could be a couple, aged 16 and 17, who could legally have sex. But then, the minute the older one turns 18 it would suddenly be illegal?

Seems like somebody didn't think this all the way through...


That is exactly it.

And they did think it through.  And the thinking was "Dang. We'd love to prosecute 16 and 17 year olds as adults for having sex.  But, it'd be too hard a sell to the public.  Ah, well, we'll just put them away for smoking pot or something."

When your job is to get paid to to prosecute criminals, you'd obviously want to prosecute as many as possible, right?

Good thing we all break laws, all the time!
 
2014-02-08 03:44:27 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: 17 years, 365 days, 23 hours, 59 minutes: You are a degenerate, perverted, maladjusted sicko deviant freak for looking at this female's nude body. You are a disgusting, demented blight on society for considering sexual thoughts about her. And she cannot understand or grasp the ramifications of or be held responsible for decisions regarding her own sexual activity.

One minute later: It's normal and accepted to lust after her and want to sex her. The woman now immediately develops all of the mental and emotional skills to handle sex and her sexuality. Game on.

Makes total sense.


Legality equals morality.  Because we really, really want to believe our justice system is moral.  So, we do.
 
2014-02-08 03:47:16 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I'm pretty sure NOBODY watched American Beauty and then turned into an ephebophile and ran around victimizing teenage girls because Thora Birch showed the world her breasts.


You were supposed to feel creeped out when she did that.  The whole point was her giving up her innocence to some drug dealer weirdo.

You didn't feel creeped out by her underage tatas?

Sicko.
 
2014-02-08 03:52:33 PM  
I've never understood the line of thought on this one. She can't consent to the photos because she's too young to understand the implications, but she can understand the implications to be charged as though she had intent?
 
2014-02-08 03:53:42 PM  
img.fark.net

Also, oddly fitting.
 
2014-02-08 03:56:36 PM  

tonguedepressor: You know what I was doing to 14yr old girls when I was 17?


Dipping their ponytails in the inkwell on your desk?
 
2014-02-08 04:06:04 PM  

giffin: I've never understood the line of thought on this one. She can't consent to the photos because she's too young to understand the implications, but she can understand the implications to be charged as though she had intent?


You don't understand the legal rational behind "We're trumping up charges because we can?"

Seems pretty simple to me.  That's the whole basis of our legal system!
 
2014-02-08 04:15:07 PM  

vygramul: untaken_name: generallyso: It's quite the legal system where one person can be both the perpetrator and the victim.

That's how drug laws work.

I imagine you have quite the cupie doll collection.


Uh, did you mean Kewpie? And no, I collect Cabbage Patch Kids, like a normal person.
 
2014-02-08 04:27:06 PM  

skinink: This way it makes the DA look tough on any type of supposed crime.


Most Prosecutors get a nice rush of serotonin when they hurt someone.
 
2014-02-08 04:51:36 PM  
ZERO TOLERANCE!

We must save society and put her on the Sex Offender List immediately!
Then, she must be banished from living anywhere but the spot under the bridge that has been designated the sex offender region (not making that up, some cities have this). Yup, forcing the 16-year-old girl to live in an area into which we have concentrated all manner of sex offenders is JUSTICE!
 
m00
2014-02-08 05:57:26 PM  

Need_MindBleach: The point is, people can literally be getting raped, and numbnuts will be okay with it in the name of political correctness. I think it's the same sort of braindead thinking that leads to children being charged with production of child pornography for taking pictures of themselves.


Yep! and imagined the tortured logic that puts a 16 year old girl in rape-land for taking pictures of herself. Because... and wait for it... 16 year old girls are fragile creatures, people who take pictures of 16 year old girls need to be punished for victimizing children. She victimized herself by taking nude pictures of herself!!! RAPE HER!!!

That is seriously 700 AD middle eastern justice.

In both cases, it's a justice system which is the result of "punish women for having sex" / sex-is-a-sin style moralizing.
 
2014-02-08 06:50:04 PM  

megarian: drjekel_mrhyde: I just can't feel sorry for people that send anyone and their mother nude pics on purpose or by mistake.

Don't judge me.


You have not mailed me. Explain yourself!
 
2014-02-09 12:02:30 AM  
The kid did a stupid thing, but a criminal record for life is idiotic.
 
2014-02-09 12:05:23 AM  
Lesson learned: Don't take self nudes, kids. Stick to getting knocked up and joining the cast of 'Teen Moms'.
 
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