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(Washington Post)   Verizon begins to throttle Netflix subscribers. Welcome to post-Net Neutrality internet, America   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 18
    More: Obvious, Netflix, Verizon, Netflix subscribers, Amazon, d.c. circuit court, Amazon Web Services, FiOS, subscribers  
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2014-02-08 08:03:04 AM  
8 votes:
If I pay for 24/7 15 MBS and get choked, it is theft of services.
2014-02-08 08:38:37 AM  
5 votes:
internet folks need to get on it like the NRA does and start punishing every single official who votes against net neutrality or even speaks against it, time to ruin careers.
2014-02-08 08:47:09 AM  
4 votes:
I'm a Fios customer, and testing Netflix last night, had no issues, so I don't know if this is a local system doing it or if it's part of a greater problem.

Still, Net Neutrality needs to be put in place permanently.
2014-02-08 10:12:18 PM  
3 votes:
Want to know how to stop the anti-net neutrality bills from picking up steam? Get the tea party involved. Their Tinfoil hat brigade will get the GOP to shut it down.

Just tell them it will allow internet providers to charge more or completely block access to conservative websites or GOP politician web pages if the ISP wants.

Make this a liberal conspiracy to gag GOP on the web and the derp out there will stop it.

Thus, liberals should go on to WND or wherever and talk about how GOOD this is. Gloat about how we can finally suppress GOP online presence. They will freak. Problem solved.
2014-02-08 01:42:57 PM  
3 votes:
The U.S. is rapidly approaching third world communication status. It's truly embarrassing. Broadband infrastructure should be classified as a public utility, just like electricity and telephone lines. The telecoms are never going to upgrade, as they have no pressure to do so from any kind of competition. We're steadily becoming the laughing stock of the first world.
2014-02-08 10:18:44 AM  
2 votes:
ISPs are just begging for Google, Netflix, and Amazon to get into the business.
2014-02-08 09:42:16 AM  
2 votes:
Isn't this in the realm of Restraint of Trade laws? If they decide to hobble their service to make their own products more appealing then they are stripping their service if the value I payed for. I mean, fark, $5 for a pay-per-view movie? Sorry, you guys don't have a farking catalog to match what I have in my Ikea cabinet, let alone the deep catalogs of Netfilx or Amazon Prime.

And if you really hobble Amazon's primary website I'll sue you personally for hobbling my ability to sell product to customers. And I'll make the form a simple cut-n-paste for every single Amazon Marketplace dealer to file suit. We will make you bleed the death of a thousand cuts.
2014-02-08 09:39:41 AM  
2 votes:

vudukungfu: If I pay for 24/7 15 MBS and get choked, it is theft of services.


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2014-02-08 10:26:31 PM  
1 votes:

digistil: TuteTibiImperes: Headso: internet folks need to get on it like the NRA does and start punishing every single official who votes against net neutrality or even speaks against it, time to ruin careers.

I have very little positive to say about the gun lobby, but you're right, dang it if they aren't effective.

Companies like Microsoft, Google, and obviously Netflix are in the pro-net-neutrality camp, so there's some big money to make a push.

You realize they've been siding with Verizon, right?


Not really.  They were attempting to come up with a set of voluntary rules to preserve the core concepts of net neutrality because they didn't see the FCC rules as enforceable.

I don't particularly agree with that stance, but they aren't buying into Verizon's claims kit and caboodle either.

The best course of action would be for the FCC to just classify ISPs as common carriers, and thus regain full regulatory powers over them.
2014-02-08 06:25:18 PM  
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: TuteTibiImperes: Headso: internet folks need to get on it like the NRA does and start punishing every single official who votes against net neutrality or even speaks against it, time to ruin careers.

I have very little positive to say about the gun lobby, but you're right, dang it if they aren't effective.

Companies like Microsoft, Google, and obviously Netflix are in the pro-net-neutrality camp, so there's some big money to make a push.

But Al Franken and the Hollywood Left are against it and also have a lot of money.


 Al Franken is for Net Neutrality. "Getting rid of net neutrality is bad for consumers and the economy..."
2014-02-08 11:58:07 AM  
1 votes:
TLDR from article.  Guy accuses Verizon of throttling, citing a chaatlog with a low level employee of same.  Article's own  headline, "Verizon denies using net neutrality victory to sabotage Netflix, Amazon."  Farkheadline "OMG, this is TOTALLY HAPPENING!"
 
/Yeah, I know, welcome to FARK
2014-02-08 10:39:12 AM  
1 votes:

NickelP: rwhamann: What's frustrating is end consumers defending it because their "team" says net neutrality is anti-competitive and hurts jobs, and they just go,along with it. Tribalism is awesome,,eh?

I don't think any consumers want to kill net neutrality. This is a game being fought between Google, ms, Netflix, etc and Verizon, att, time warner, Comcast. Its mega corps vs mega corps. No one involved gives a fark what the consumers think.


Tell my Facebook feed. I see two bit lower or middle class republicans criticizing net neutrality like they've got the talking points tattooed on their asses that morning.  It's not everyday, but it happens enough to demonstrate once again that people will vote against their interests to support their tribe
2014-02-08 10:07:46 AM  
1 votes:
I lived in a nerd flop house and we had comcast.  We would get throttled all the time.  It would happen at all hours including really late night.  We lived around plenty of old people so you know the network wasnt clogged.  Plenty of us were legally downloading and streaming plus gaming and it would be fine til it would randomly slow down.  Resetting routers didnt work, we just had to wait out the throttle.

Then we had a guy move out and had issues with them switching over so we stopped paying for a month.  The funny thing was we logged into the tech page and followed the tech directions to turn it back on.  Before we could get them to switch accounts to a new person they had someone come out and cut all lines going into the house after the drop.  They they tried to charge the guy that left thousands of dollars for the equipment from the previous accounts at that address.

Seriously fark comcast.
2014-02-08 09:53:48 AM  
1 votes:
I'm not dicking around when I say I'll sue.

15 U.S. Code § 13 - Discrimination in price, services, or facilities

It shall be unlawful for any person engaged in commerce, in the course of such commerce, either directly or indirectly, to discriminate in price between different purchasers of commodities of like grade and quality, where either or any of the purchases involved in such discrimination are in commerce, where such commodities are sold for use, consumption, or resale within the United States or any Territory thereof or the District of Columbia or any insular possession or other place under the jurisdiction of the United States, and where the effect of such discrimination may be substantially to lessen competition or tend to create a monopoly in any line of commerce, or to injure, destroy, or prevent competition with any person who either grants or knowingly receives the benefit of such discrimination, or with customers of either of them: Provided, That nothing herein contained shall prevent differentials which make only due allowance for differences in the cost of manufacture, sale, or delivery resulting from the differing methods or quantities in which such commodities are to such purchasers sold or delivered: Provided, however, That the Federal Trade Commission may, after due investigation and hearing to all interested parties, fix and establish quantity limits, and revise the same as it finds necessary, as to particular commodities or classes of commodities, where it finds that available purchasers in greater quantities are so few as to render differentials on account thereof unjustly discriminatory or promotive of monopoly in any line of commerce; and the foregoing shall then not be construed to permit differentials based on differences in quantities greater than those so fixed and established: And provided further, That nothing herein contained shall prevent persons engaged in selling goods, wares, or merchandise in commerce from selecting their own customers in bona fide transactions and not in restraint of trade: And provided further, That nothing herein contained shall prevent price changes from time to time where in response to changing conditions affecting the market for or the marketability of the goods concerned, such as but not limited to actual or imminent deterioration of perishable goods, obsolescence of seasonal goods, distress sales under court process, or sales in good faith in discontinuance of business in the goods concerned.
2014-02-08 09:26:12 AM  
1 votes:

TuteTibiImperes: Headso: internet folks need to get on it like the NRA does and start punishing every single official who votes against net neutrality or even speaks against it, time to ruin careers.

I have very little positive to say about the gun lobby, but you're right, dang it if they aren't effective.

Companies like Microsoft, Google, and obviously Netflix are in the pro-net-neutrality camp, so there's some big money to make a push.


Man I'd love to see some 'senator x thinks your internet provider should be able to cut off your access to nNetflix, amazon, and your other favorite sites. If you enjoy choosing where you go on the internet vote to protect it' ads
2014-02-08 09:25:43 AM  
1 votes:
What's frustrating is end consumers defending it because their "team" says net neutrality is anti-competitive and hurts jobs, and they just go,along with it. Tribalism is awesome,,eh?
2014-02-08 09:18:52 AM  
1 votes:
So a blogger wit no concrete evidence cries online and its news?
2014-02-08 09:17:24 AM  
1 votes:

Headso: internet folks need to get on it like the NRA does and start punishing every single official who votes against net neutrality or even speaks against it, time to ruin careers.


I have very little positive to say about the gun lobby, but you're right, dang it if they aren't effective.

Companies like Microsoft, Google, and obviously Netflix are in the pro-net-neutrality camp, so there's some big money to make a push.
 
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