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2014-02-08 01:52:54 PM  
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2014-02-08 01:55:04 PM  

iron_city_ap: I can easily see some of these being adapted to film. Especially the G.R.R. Martin one. Somebody will try to ride the coattails of ASOIAF. Might not be that well done, but, its logical that someone will see dollar signs and want to go for it.


If they want to adapt a GRRM property, Fevre Dream would make an amazing vampire movie.
 
2014-02-08 02:01:51 PM  
They forgot Jeffrey E. Barlough's Western Lights series where something caused a second ice age in Victorian times.  One of the books hinted it was a refugee alien ship losing all power and slamming into the earth.
 
2014-02-08 02:21:18 PM  
Alien Space Bats.

/RIP Alison
 
2014-02-08 02:21:41 PM  
If we're talking althist I'll offer up two that I thought were excellent:

Ruled Brittana (Successful invasion by Spanish Armada)
Worldwar (Alien invasion during WWII, but I loved it anyway)
 
2014-02-08 02:36:19 PM  

iron_city_ap: Bahhh, Hollywood is out of new ideas.

Here are some new ideas.

Bahhh....

I can easily see some of these being adapted to film. Especially the G.R.R. Martin one. Somebody will try to ride the coattails of ASOIAF. Might not be that well done, but, its logical that someone will see dollar signs and want to go for it.


GRRM apparently has a 6  series deal with HBO after GoT season 1 happened. As in 6 other series besides GoT. So it's pretty much a lock that Wild Cards is going to be an HBO series. The problem with Wild Cards is that it's a multi-author shared universe, so adapting specific stories is going to get tricky in getting a lot of different author approvals. Still, I'm sure HBO is going to have enough cash to throw at this problem.
 
2014-02-08 02:44:27 PM  

Theaetetus: Capo Del Bandito: Who doesn't love magic

Fantasy is not alternate history.


this
 
2014-02-08 03:16:32 PM  
I'm currently reading the Northlands Trilogy.
 
2014-02-08 03:18:59 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: I'm currently reading the Nantucket series.


What if there were a man whose dick was so long, he could suck it?
 
2014-02-08 03:23:31 PM  

FrancoFile: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 289x475]

List fails without Kim Stanley Robinson's "The Years of Rice and Salt"


Just checked out the Wiki page on that -- that's a fascinating premise.  Is it a good read? (I've heard his Mars Trilogy was kind of a bore.)
 
2014-02-08 03:34:01 PM  
Since I just mentioned this in another thread... How about a Soviet/Afgani war that also included ugly high-tech war machines and modern people on both sides with magical combat powers?
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The Red Star
was an amazing comic book/graphic/prose novel series from Image that also included a really hard video game.  If you like post apocalyptic fiction it's really worth checking out.
 
2014-02-08 03:54:47 PM  
I'm able to keep track of the 1632 books, but then, history major- I'm used to long and complicated with way too many people for normal brains to keep track of.  (And brains like mine occasionally need cribs notes as well.)

Like most wannabes, I'm working on my own project.  And by working I mean I'm having fun geeking out on research while occasionally writing bits and pieces and having geekfests with my sister when a question falls under her areas of knowledge.  Anglo-Saxon England is fascinating, and I haven't seen it used yet.
 
2014-02-08 04:03:23 PM  
Kim Newman's "Anno Dracula" is good, but "The Bloody Red Baron" is even better.
 
2014-02-08 04:21:23 PM  

Theaetetus: [www.sfsite.com image 173x290] '
What if Prince Albert's typhoid had killed him and left him unable to diffuse the Trent Affair, leading a depressed and widowed Queen Victoria to carry out an attack on the U.S. on the eve of the Civil War?


That was a horrid book. Maybe HH's worst (I haven't read ALL of his stuff. A lot is really good). Everybody was made of cardboard, and stuff happened that would never have happened. Aliens could have invaded and the Southerners would not have ended slavery. Not to mention the utter stupidity of the Brits. I presume some limey must have peed in HH's cornflakes once.
 
2014-02-08 04:25:17 PM  

Gunther: MuonNeutrino: The 1632 series was good for the first few books (the ones written by Flint and Weber), but it really bogged down after a while; a lot of the authors he brought in were nowhere near as good. A very interesting premise, though.

I always thought the 1632 series would make a really good TV show.

Capo Del Bandito: A severe lack of Grimnoir Chronicles in there.

As a counterpoint, Monster Hunter International (by the same author) was one of the worst books I've ever read - so amateurish in every aspect I'm astonished it got published.


You are correct. Talk about Mary Sueism! But, he got better. Grimnoir Chronicles is good pulpy stuff.
 
2014-02-08 05:17:32 PM  
I enjoy some of this genre, but not all of it.

Thanks for the leads to books I might enjoy!
 
2014-02-08 05:20:03 PM  

anfrind: One alternate history scenario I've been toying with for several months now is one in which the Centralists fail to take control of Mexico after it breaks away from Spain.  That would mean, among other things, that the 1824 Constitution would not be suspended, and thus Texas would no longer have a reason to secede from Mexico, so Texas would either remain a Mexican state or wouldn't secede until later (possibly after the American Civil War).  Depending on how subsequent events would play out, it might also mean that the Mexican-American War doesn't happen at all, leaving Mexico with nearly twice as much territory as it has today, including Texas, California, and much of the American southwest.


I'd argue that Polk would have found a way to invade Mexico regardless (assuming he ended up president). The urge for more land, particularly to spread slavery in the South, was massive for him.

You can make the argument that Polk might not have ended up president without the Texas annexation question hanging over the nation, but I think he was the right asshole at the right moment.

/ I also think he is in the running for America's biggest monster of a president.
// Yes, Jackson likely leads that race
/// Jackson is still on my three man presidential fighting team with Teddy and Ike.
 
2014-02-08 05:34:18 PM  

suburbanguy: Remember back in 1773 when British troops barricaded Boston Harbor against the Beast from the Unknown?

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Pepperidge Farm remembers.


Oh God damn you for stealing my joke!!
 
2014-02-08 06:02:26 PM  

SheltemDragon: anfrind: One alternate history scenario I've been toying with for several months now is one in which the Centralists fail to take control of Mexico after it breaks away from Spain.  That would mean, among other things, that the 1824 Constitution would not be suspended, and thus Texas would no longer have a reason to secede from Mexico, so Texas would either remain a Mexican state or wouldn't secede until later (possibly after the American Civil War).  Depending on how subsequent events would play out, it might also mean that the Mexican-American War doesn't happen at all, leaving Mexico with nearly twice as much territory as it has today, including Texas, California, and much of the American southwest.

I'd argue that Polk would have found a way to invade Mexico regardless (assuming he ended up president). The urge for more land, particularly to spread slavery in the South, was massive for him.

You can make the argument that Polk might not have ended up president without the Texas annexation question hanging over the nation, but I think he was the right asshole at the right moment.

/ I also think he is in the running for America's biggest monster of a president.
// Yes, Jackson likely leads that race
/// Jackson is still on my three man presidential fighting team with Teddy and Ike.


That could be.  The idea came to me when I visited the Alamo last August, but I haven't done much research since then.

/probably will never actually publish anything based on this idea
 
2014-02-08 07:09:37 PM  
What is the Fark collectives opinion on this one?

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I rather enjoyed it I hear they are turning it into a BBC1 series.
 
2014-02-08 09:29:15 PM  

SheltemDragon: anfrind: One alternate history scenario I've been toying with for several months now is one in which the Centralists fail to take control of Mexico after it breaks away from Spain.  That would mean, among other things, that the 1824 Constitution would not be suspended, and thus Texas would no longer have a reason to secede from Mexico, so Texas would either remain a Mexican state or wouldn't secede until later (possibly after the American Civil War).  Depending on how subsequent events would play out, it might also mean that the Mexican-American War doesn't happen at all, leaving Mexico with nearly twice as much territory as it has today, including Texas, California, and much of the American southwest.

I'd argue that Polk would have found a way to invade Mexico regardless (assuming he ended up president). The urge for more land, particularly to spread slavery in the South, was massive for him.

You can make the argument that Polk might not have ended up president without the Texas annexation question hanging over the nation, but I think he was the right asshole at the right moment.

/ I also think he is in the running for America's biggest monster of a president.
// Yes, Jackson likely leads that race
/// Jackson is still on my three man presidential fighting team with Teddy and Ike.


Well, without Polk we wouldn't have the south west USA, so no Albuquerque and no Breaking Bad, no California, no California gold rush, no Colerado, no San Fransisco, and no Texas. Wait, we could have had no San Fransico or Texas? Hey, Polk really is history's greatest monster!
 
2014-02-08 09:36:13 PM  

Arkanaut: FrancoFile: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 289x475]

List fails without Kim Stanley Robinson's "The Years of Rice and Salt"

Just checked out the Wiki page on that -- that's a fascinating premise.  Is it a good read? (I've heard his Mars Trilogy was kind of a bore.)


It takes place over a multi-century time span, so you don't have the same characters throughout.  I thought it was an excellent thought experiment. A few parts were slow, but most of it was a pretty good read.
 
2014-02-09 05:02:14 AM  
I'm a big believer in a form of historical inevitability. If the root causes, and certain various things are in place- popular opinions, beliefs, weather, demographics, etc., then things are going to essentially work out the same way in the long run and the deaths- or not- of key people might have sped things up a bit or slowed things down but in the end would have little if no effect. Had, for instance, Henry V of England not been killed by dysentery, he may have lived another thirty years- but instead of being remembered as the victor of Agincourt he might just be remembered now as Henry Half-Kingdom- because their was no way, given the respective populations, England could maintain hold of France and so a different Henry would have lost the Hundred Years War.
 
2014-02-09 10:18:40 AM  
www.maniacworld.com
Did it look like this?

/I can't believe we're this far in and no one had posted this
 
2014-02-09 11:13:57 AM  

FrancoFile: Arkanaut: FrancoFile: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 289x475]

List fails without Kim Stanley Robinson's "The Years of Rice and Salt"

Just checked out the Wiki page on that -- that's a fascinating premise.  Is it a good read? (I've heard his Mars Trilogy was kind of a bore.)

It takes place over a multi-century time span, so you don't have the same characters throughout.  I thought it was an excellent thought experiment. A few parts were slow, but most of it was a pretty good read.


But they are the same characters being reincarnated throughout the story. Good read and an interesting premise where Western European history ends before it really begins.
 
2014-02-09 11:43:17 AM  

Svlad Cjelli: FrancoFile: Arkanaut: FrancoFile: [d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net image 289x475]

List fails without Kim Stanley Robinson's "The Years of Rice and Salt"

Just checked out the Wiki page on that -- that's a fascinating premise.  Is it a good read? (I've heard his Mars Trilogy was kind of a bore.)

It takes place over a multi-century time span, so you don't have the same characters throughout.  I thought it was an excellent thought experiment. A few parts were slow, but most of it was a pretty good read.

But they are the same characters being reincarnated throughout the story. Good read and an interesting premise where Western European history ends before it really begins.


I wasn't very fond of that bit...
 
2014-02-09 03:56:25 PM  

MuonNeutrino: The 1632 series was good for the first few books (the ones written by Flint and Weber), but it really bogged down after a while; a lot of the authors he brought in were nowhere near as good. A very interesting premise, though.


Concur; liked the first two, then, yeah...they bog down big-time.
 
2014-02-09 08:16:25 PM  

PunGent: MuonNeutrino: The 1632 series was good for the first few books (the ones written by Flint and Weber), but it really bogged down after a while; a lot of the authors he brought in were nowhere near as good. A very interesting premise, though.

Concur; liked the first two, then, yeah...they bog down big-time.


The D&D playing teenagers are by far the best characters by that point.
 
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