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(Mother Jones)   FoxBusiness takes on The LEGO® Movie's anti-business message, then moves on to defend Mr. Potter from It's a Wonderful Life. Seriously   (motherjones.com) divider line 66
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2014-02-08 05:55:00 PM
StreetlightInTheGhetto I was reeeeaaalllllyyy incredulous, then found out the same people did Clone High, which I unabashedly adore.  I suppose if it ever shows up on Netflix or if I need to kill some time with friends/relatives kids, I'll check it out.

Met those guys a few years ago, they won me over when they explained one of the 2 inspirations for the Island in "Cloudy With a Chance Of Meatballs" was my grandfather's hometown, Granite Falls(the other, Astoria OR)
 
2014-02-08 06:24:47 PM

Ishkur: I really wish they'd use actual voice actors for animated films rather than celebrities who just talk normally. They don't really bring anything to the film that can't be accomplished by someone better and more experienced.


They have names that put bums on seats. If you want the money to make your film you have to choose names over talent every time.
 
2014-02-08 06:38:59 PM
Ishkur * * Smartest * Funniest 2014-02-08 08:20:11 AM I really wish they'd use actual voice actors for animated films rather than celebrities who just talk normally. They don't really bring anything to the film that can't be accomplished by someone better and more experienced.
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Pixar does it very well... no one can.

But other studios use it for the name recognition with the hopes that the marquee names voicing it will bring in the audience.

/I really don't think it's ever worked.
//If it's a bad movie, no one will go. If it's a good movie, people will.
 
2014-02-08 07:37:59 PM

jake3988: //If it's a bad movie, no one will go. If it's a good movie, people will.


Aside from that being just patently false...

The big names are useful for persuading the potential viewer to give it a chance, for getting them interested before they know how good (someone else says) it is.

And known actors help in conveying the tone of the movie. If you are pitching me an animated movie about one cat living in a house full of dogs, my thoughts go in one direction if you tell me the cat is voiced by Michael Cera and another if you tell me he's voiced by Sam Jackson.
 
2014-02-08 08:36:26 PM
Disappointed no one linked to this. Fox News presents Its a Wonderful Life
 
2014-02-08 08:58:05 PM

Gordon Bennett: Ishkur: I really wish they'd use actual voice actors for animated films rather than celebrities who just talk normally. They don't really bring anything to the film that can't be accomplished by someone better and more experienced.

They have names that put bums on seats. If you want the money to make your film you have to choose names over talent every time.


Really?  Do people actually go to see animated movies because a character is voiced by someone they know?  "Ooooh, I wasn't going to take the kids to see Rise of the Guardians but Chris Pine is doing the lead voice so now I must take them!"  I'm pretty sure no one said "Steve Carrell, I must go see Despicable Me!"  How many Toy Story fans even remember that it's Tom Hanks and Tim Allen?  Would you not have watched it if it wasn't?  Did so many people see Rapunzel because of Mandy Moore?  Was Frozen a hit (highest grossing animated Disney film of all time) because of Kristen Bell?  I highly doubt Ray Romano has enough fans to earn Ice Age what it did.  What about Lion King, do you think many people watched it because it starred Matthew Broderick?  Seriously?

I mean... I would do pretty much anything to get a bit of Benedict Cumberbatch, but I absolutely will not watch Madagascar 3 just because he's voicing something in it (and he is an excellent voice actor, but then he has a big background in radio plays and audio books).

/I'll wait until someone uploads the cuts of his parts to YouTube, thanks
 
2014-02-08 09:16:11 PM

Monkeyfark Ridiculous: And known actors help in conveying the tone of the movie. If you are pitching me an animated movie about one cat living in a house full of dogs, my thoughts go in one direction if you tell me the cat is voiced by Michael Cera and another if you tell me he's voiced by Sam Jackson.


I would know that both of them would take me right out of the movie because when I hear them speak all I hear is the actor in a sound booth exaggerating his lines. They can't disguise their voices the way Billy West or Frank Welker can.

A good voice actor should make you forget about the voice, or make the voice feel totally like the character. Happy Feet doesn't sound like a penguin, he sounds like farking Elijah Wood.

Regarding this Lego movie: Are you really going to tell me Elizabeth Banks is a better fit than, say, Tara Strong?
 
2014-02-08 09:20:14 PM

Ishkur: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: And known actors help in conveying the tone of the movie. If you are pitching me an animated movie about one cat living in a house full of dogs, my thoughts go in one direction if you tell me the cat is voiced by Michael Cera and another if you tell me he's voiced by Sam Jackson.

I would know that both of them would take me right out of the movie because when I hear them speak all I hear is the actor in a sound booth exaggerating his lines. They can't disguise their voices the way Billy West or Frank Welker can.

A good voice actor should make you forget about the voice, or make the voice feel totally like the character. Happy Feet doesn't sound like a penguin, he sounds like farking Elijah Wood.

Regarding this Lego movie: Are you really going to tell me Elizabeth Banks is a better fit than, say, Tara Strong?


I'll tell you one thing, I didn't realize that Alison Brie was in the movie until the credits rolled. Also, some of these voice actors get too much work as it is. I still have problems w/ Adventure Time b/c I still hear Bender.
 
2014-02-08 10:00:09 PM
didn't they say the same thing about the last muppet movie?
 
2014-02-08 10:05:29 PM

Nabb1: BumpInTheNight: Oh I'd forgotten about the Lego movie, I'm going to go steal it off the internet right now!  Thanks fox news foot note in an otherwise great review that got it greenlit on the fark!

You're really speaking truth to power stealing that copy of a children's movie off the internet instead of just paying $8 to see it.


I'd rather pay the $8 to download and see it at home on my own schedule.

/I am not going to steal it either.
 
2014-02-08 10:16:35 PM

if_i_really_have_to: Gordon Bennett: Ishkur: I really wish they'd use actual voice actors for animated films rather than celebrities who just talk normally. They don't really bring anything to the film that can't be accomplished by someone better and more experienced.

They have names that put bums on seats. If you want the money to make your film you have to choose names over talent every time.

Really?  Do people actually go to see animated movies because a character is voiced by someone they know?  "Ooooh, I wasn't going to take the kids to see Rise of the Guardians but Chris Pine is doing the lead voice so now I must take them!"  I'm pretty sure no one said "Steve Carrell, I must go see Despicable Me!"  How many Toy Story fans even remember that it's Tom Hanks and Tim Allen?  Would you not have watched it if it wasn't?  Did so many people see Rapunzel because of Mandy Moore?  Was Frozen a hit (highest grossing animated Disney film of all time) because of Kristen Bell?  I highly doubt Ray Romano has enough fans to earn Ice Age what it did.  What about Lion King, do you think many people watched it because it starred Matthew Broderick?  Seriously?

I mean... I would do pretty much anything to get a bit of Benedict Cumberbatch, but I absolutely will not watch Madagascar 3 just because he's voicing something in it (and he is an excellent voice actor, but then he has a big background in radio plays and audio books).

/I'll wait until someone uploads the cuts of his parts to YouTube, thanks



The idea that Ray Romano's name is singlehandedly responsible for Ice Age's success or changing anyone's mind from "oh God no, do not want" to "I must see this" is your own invention. That isn't why people pay millions to get big names in their movies.

But... can having stars attached tip the balance for a marginally interested consumer, result in more successful PR, help the movie to open bigger? Sure. Really seriously.


Ishkur: Monkeyfark Ridiculous: And known actors help in conveying the tone of the movie. If you are pitching me an animated movie about one cat living in a house full of dogs, my thoughts go in one direction if you tell me the cat is voiced by Michael Cera and another if you tell me he's voiced by Sam Jackson.

I would know that both of them would take me right out of the movie because when I hear them speak all I hear is the actor in a sound booth exaggerating his lines. They can't disguise their voices the way Billy West or Frank Welker can.

A good voice actor should make you forget about the voice, or make the voice feel totally like the character. Happy Feet doesn't sound like a penguin, he sounds like farking Elijah Wood.

Regarding this Lego movie: Are you really going to tell me Elizabeth Banks is a better fit than, say, Tara Strong?



Sure, an unknown/character actor would always enable suspension of disbelief better than a star, whether in animation or live-action. Although the star is often a good fit because the role was written/drawn with that actor in mind.

/and as much as I enjoy some of those voice actors, they tend to be better at the "voice" part than the "acting" part
 
2014-02-09 12:24:29 AM

skinink: the "Santa is white" story


Well, of course he is.
Isn't he?
 
2014-02-09 02:58:54 AM

Trocadero: I'll tell you one thing, I didn't realize that Alison Brie was in the movie until the credits rolled. Also, some of these voice actors get too much work as it is. I still have problems w/ Adventure Time b/c I still hear Bender.


She was so good in this. The bottom line is this: animated movies now have extremely large budgets and are more and more being targeted to adults and not just children, the LEGO Movie included.  As such, they need people to go onto television talk shows to help promote the movie, and that means getting people who can command at least a guest spot on Letterman and Conan,etc. And that means that you get Chris Pratt voicing Emmett instead of Billy West. When it's done well you get something like The LEGO Movie--where all the characters fit their voice actors and everything seems seamless. When you don't, you get something like, say, A Shark's Tale where it feels like someone animated characters around existing recordings of celebrities.
 
2014-02-09 10:38:07 AM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: sotua: I loved it, and so did my kids. Paid the costly cinema tickets and didn't feel ripped off at the end *cough* cars 2 *cough*

I was reeeeaaalllllyyy incredulous, then found out the same people did Clone High, which I unabashedly adore.  I suppose if it ever shows up on Netflix or if I need to kill some time with friends/relatives kids, I'll check it out.

Agree with celeb voiceovers being lame, though.  Unless they're awesome.  Elizabeth Banks did not seem to be one of those.


If it's not a really committed one (like, say, Dustin Hoffman in Kung Fu Panda) it sucks.

Now I need to see it in English. Had to see it in out first language for the kids, but I thought that Ferrel did great (even though dubbed) and tapped some of that awesome Stranger Than Fiction talent he has hidden from everyone.
 
2014-02-09 11:17:43 AM
Either the Fox Business talking head didn't see the movie, or he's incapable of following the plot geared at 8 year olds. The dichotomy is very clearly play versus business, not socialism versus capitalism. My god, these people and their audience are willfully ignorant.
 
2014-02-09 02:02:39 PM
 The use of celebrities as voice actors allows the studios to have them promote the film in the weeks prior to release.  JK pioneered this at Disney and he continues the practice at DreamWorks.  Some companies use celebrity voices better than others.  Nicolas Cages is not a good voice actor, but John Goodman is fantastic.
 
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