ambercat: whitman00: ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.Why do I think if the police had not used deadly force after they clearly saw there was a baby in the car, and she rammed her car into a building at 100 mph killing the baby, the family would be suing for $100 million because the police didn't stop her and you would be here posting about how the police should have done more.4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do. Go....Was there any reason to believe the car was rigged with explosives? Car chases aren't exactly uncommon, police departments normally have protocols in place to deal with them, and ways to stop the car before it rams into anything, like deploying those spiked strips. If they were so afraid for the baby, escalating the situation might not have been the best way to make sure the baby was safe.
ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.
Lenny_da_Hog: Good.I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.
Lenny_da_Hog: Securitywyrm: This wasn't a case of "Dropped the gun." This was a case of "Their gun was jammed." A gun, or car, can become unjammed.If that was the case, they could have shot the radiator and tires to permanently disable it. They reported the car was stuck. Your imagining all kinds of other scenarios of how it wasn't stuck is all the more reason it should be revisited in a courtroom.
Lenny_da_Hog: Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot."Had used" is not the same as "can now use." If you shoot a gun, then drop the gun, should the police be able to kill you after you're no longer armed?Her car was disabled. There was no sign of any other weapons other than the car. Even after they'd initially shot at her, she didn't return fire at them -- she was just running. Her behavior was consistent with flight in panic.Better Call Saul.
RottenEggs: GungFu: Thanks, electronically-controlling Obama!I wonder why they are not suing the messiah ?
Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.
HotWingAgenda: If you're gonna be violent and psychotic, it's probably best not to make a beeline towards the first black president in history. And where in the flying fark were all these concerned family when the woman grabbed her baby and dragged it on a road trip to Crazytown?
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