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(CBS DC)   Remember the crazy dental hygienist who led police in a car chase in front of the Capitol? Her family has reached out to the officers involved ... with a lawsuit for $75 million   (washington.cbslocal.com) divider line 23
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2014-02-08 07:31:00 AM
4 votes:
I'm reallllyyyy trying to find sympathy for this family. But I cant. The Secret Services number one job is to protect the president. You do the kinds of acts she did and yes, you will be gunned down because it is their job and they can't tell if you're a woman off your meds or someone hell bent on assassinating the commander in chief. Same way with the DC police and the capitol building.
2014-02-08 06:52:39 AM
4 votes:

ambercat: whitman00: ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.

Why do I think if the police had not used deadly force after they clearly saw there was a baby in the car, and she rammed her car into a building at 100 mph killing the baby, the family would be suing for $100 million because the police didn't stop her and you would be here posting about how the police should have done more.

4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

Was there any reason to believe the car was rigged with explosives? Car chases aren't exactly uncommon, police departments normally have protocols in place to deal with them, and ways to stop the car before it rams into anything, like deploying those spiked strips. If they were so afraid for the baby, escalating the situation might not have been the best way to make sure the baby was safe.


Did you read about or watch any footage of this event?

- Rammed a barrier near the White House.   Surrounded by police with guns drawn.
- Police do not fire at her as she backs away from barrier and speeds down the street.
- She got by a barrier the police set up on Constitution ave.
- During car chase, she rams a police car who tried to stop her.
2014-02-08 06:00:40 AM
4 votes:

ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.


Why do I think if the police had not used deadly force after they clearly saw there was a baby in the car, and she rammed her car into a building at 100 mph killing the baby, the family would be suing for $100 million because the police didn't stop her and you would be here posting about how the police should have done more.

4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....
2014-02-08 07:54:58 AM
3 votes:
FTFA you linked.... "Carey initially drove into the driveway leading to the White House at about 2:12 p.m. on Thursday, hit some temporary fencing, then backed up, striking a Secret Service officer, who suffered minor injuries." The striking of the officer here allows deadly force to be used. It also states that she struck another police vehicle during the chase. Combine those two and it shows a pattern of wanting to cause death or great bodily harm to the officers. Even though the vehicle may have been stuck, her previous actions showed that if the car became free she would attempt to strike another officer with her car. That justifies use of deadly force for all law enforcement agencies. Add on the fact that the Secret Service and Capital Police have more leeway than others... you're SOL family.
2014-02-08 05:38:05 AM
3 votes:
If you're gonna be violent and psychotic, it's probably best not to make a beeline towards the first black president in history. And where in the flying fark were all these concerned family when the woman grabbed her baby and dragged it on a road trip to Crazytown?
2014-02-08 07:15:43 AM
2 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.


While I'm generally "the police shouldn't even be armed" (I'm British, and we generally cope just fine), I think "ramming the White House with a car" is one of those "Yeah, I understand" situations.
2014-02-08 06:31:41 AM
2 votes:
So the same family that knew she had been diagnosed with post-partum depression and psychosis but let her out unsupervised anyway wants to sue the police department, who knew nothing of those diagnoses, for killing her as a result of aggressive actions using her car as a weapon.  Whether or not the police were completely justified in her killing, the family is going to have a difficult time escaping a good share of the responsibility.
2014-02-08 06:28:20 AM
2 votes:
*sigh*

Lenny_da_Hog: Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.


Yknow what, being in a car is not 'unarmed', especially when you try to run people over.  Lets you and I have a fight, you with your fists, me with my car, I'm unarmed right?
2014-02-08 04:47:27 PM
1 votes:
Hooray! Mom is dead - time to cash-in!
2014-02-08 01:04:07 PM
1 votes:
Woman does batshiat crazy things in one of the most security sensitive areas in the country, which also happens to be a country whose government is petrified of terrorists.

This sounds like a natural consequence of her actions.

Don't like this outcome?  Start voting in less crazy people who help the world instead of trying to conquer it.  The cops are just doing their jobs as directed by people in the buildings she was trying to ram.
2014-02-08 10:15:38 AM
1 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: Securitywyrm: This wasn't a case of "Dropped the gun." This was a case of "Their gun was jammed." A gun, or car, can become unjammed.

If that was the case, they could have shot the radiator and tires to permanently disable it. They reported the car was stuck. Your imagining all kinds of other scenarios of how it wasn't stuck is all the more reason it should be revisited in a courtroom.


1. Cars can drive on bald tires.
2. A shot to the radiator requires the radiator to lose all its fluid, and then be operated long enough for the engine to overheat.

You're arguing the vehicular equivalent of "Well officers should never shoot someone center mass, they should shoot them in the arm... or better yet just shoot the gun out of their hand!"
2014-02-08 10:08:11 AM
1 votes:

Lenny_da_Hog: Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.

"Had used" is not the same as "can now use." If you shoot a gun, then drop the gun, should the police be able to kill you after you're no longer armed?

Her car was disabled. There was no sign of any other weapons other than the car. Even after they'd initially shot at her, she didn't return fire at them -- she was just running. Her behavior was consistent with flight in panic.

Better Call Saul.


This wasn't a case of "Dropped the gun." This was a case of "Their gun was jammed." A gun, or car, can become unjammed.
2014-02-08 09:50:37 AM
1 votes:

RottenEggs: GungFu: Thanks, electronically-controlling Obama!

I wonder why they are not suing the messiah ?


Because Jesus isn't real, and is unrelated to this case?
2014-02-08 09:32:36 AM
1 votes:
Thats Obama's kid. I want a DNA test.
2014-02-08 08:04:12 AM
1 votes:
When protecting DC you don't have time or luxury of stopping to fullly check every nook and cranny for explosives during a high speed chase. The only reason to kill her with the limited knowledge they had at that time would have been a suspicion that she had a detonator on her person that she needed to manually trigger.

Other than that it was target practice, fear or rage.
2014-02-08 08:00:23 AM
1 votes:

Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.


Because the news never pushes an agenda or tries to force opinions on the viewers/readers; they just objectively report the facts.

/and the Central Park Five were guilty.
//as were the Duke Lacrosse team.
///and the West Memphis Three
2014-02-08 06:37:01 AM
1 votes:
Can the police counter-sue for emotional damage because the family failed to keep this woman under control and away from danger?  She was ramming the front gates of the white house and then made a beeline towards the capitol building when that failed for christ sake.  Yes of course this was going to be met with lethal force, if anyone is in the wrong its those that let this very dangerous woman take he daughter on that joy ride to nothing of value was lostville.
2014-02-08 05:56:39 AM
1 votes:

ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.


This. There was  no reason to shoot her.
2014-02-08 05:51:08 AM
1 votes:
Odds of winning that lawsuit are less than a

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2014-02-08 05:50:12 AM
1 votes:
Authorities say she believed President Barack Obama was monitoring her electronically.

Well, she was right on that one. Not Obama directly, he has guys at the NSA to do that for him, but yeah..
2014-02-08 05:49:10 AM
1 votes:

HotWingAgenda: If you're gonna be violent and psychotic, it's probably best not to make a beeline towards the first black president in history. And where in the flying fark were all these concerned family when the woman grabbed her baby and dragged it on a road trip to Crazytown?


Probably hoping the cops would take her into custody so she could get help and then bring the baby home. Instead they shot her.
2014-02-08 05:37:59 AM
1 votes:
Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.
2014-02-08 05:35:24 AM
1 votes:
Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.
 
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