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(CBS DC)   Remember the crazy dental hygienist who led police in a car chase in front of the Capitol? Her family has reached out to the officers involved ... with a lawsuit for $75 million   (washington.cbslocal.com) divider line 133
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2014-02-08 05:35:24 AM  
Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.
 
2014-02-08 05:36:58 AM  
Thanks, electronically-controlling Obama!
 
2014-02-08 05:37:59 AM  
Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.
 
2014-02-08 05:38:05 AM  
If you're gonna be violent and psychotic, it's probably best not to make a beeline towards the first black president in history. And where in the flying fark were all these concerned family when the woman grabbed her baby and dragged it on a road trip to Crazytown?
 
2014-02-08 05:49:10 AM  

HotWingAgenda: If you're gonna be violent and psychotic, it's probably best not to make a beeline towards the first black president in history. And where in the flying fark were all these concerned family when the woman grabbed her baby and dragged it on a road trip to Crazytown?


Probably hoping the cops would take her into custody so she could get help and then bring the baby home. Instead they shot her.
 
2014-02-08 05:50:12 AM  
Authorities say she believed President Barack Obama was monitoring her electronically.

Well, she was right on that one. Not Obama directly, he has guys at the NSA to do that for him, but yeah..
 
2014-02-08 05:50:50 AM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.


She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.
 
2014-02-08 05:51:08 AM  
Odds of winning that lawsuit are less than a

waterman99.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-08 05:56:39 AM  

ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.


This. There was  no reason to shoot her.
 
2014-02-08 05:57:58 AM  
Yea, I remember. The cops over-reacted and murdered a girl because they are pussies.

Anymore questions?
 
2014-02-08 06:00:40 AM  

ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.


Why do I think if the police had not used deadly force after they clearly saw there was a baby in the car, and she rammed her car into a building at 100 mph killing the baby, the family would be suing for $100 million because the police didn't stop her and you would be here posting about how the police should have done more.

4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....
 
2014-02-08 06:04:12 AM  
Authorities say she believed President Barack Obama was monitoring her electronically.

They should sue the Tea Party for encouraging her delusions.
 
2014-02-08 06:04:40 AM  

whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....


If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.
 
2014-02-08 06:06:10 AM  

whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....


Go, you go, Girl!
 
2014-02-08 06:08:17 AM  
They'll get it.

Not as a deserved settlement, but as hush money.
 
2014-02-08 06:10:33 AM  
They should be happy the police didn't shoot the baby.

It could have been full of explosives! Obama had it set to explode when he used his cell phone, I bet.

I think mistakes were made by both sides, but I side with the police. The android minions of Obama must die.

What did they have to do, wait to see if she poops?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc
 
2014-02-08 06:12:20 AM  
Headline reminded me of the doctor who recently got pulled over for a traffic stop. Search of his car revealed 50 LARGE in cash, a 44 revolver, and a 45 pistol and loaded clips.

But what made this traffic stop memorable was he repeatedly and violently tried to fake some "police brutality" injuries on his own head.. while SCREAMING OUT FOR HIS MONEY and yelling at the cops NOT TO TAKE HIS MONEY.

The good doctor went completely. Farking. Bananas. Police cameras caught it all.

Dr. Zachary Charles Bird, at your service. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6cuFCbpgU   [turn ur volume down a tad]
 
2014-02-08 06:15:02 AM  

whitman00: ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.

Why do I think if the police had not used deadly force after they clearly saw there was a baby in the car, and she rammed her car into a building at 100 mph killing the baby, the family would be suing for $100 million because the police didn't stop her and you would be here posting about how the police should have done more.

4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....


Was there any reason to believe the car was rigged with explosives? Car chases aren't exactly uncommon, police departments normally have protocols in place to deal with them, and ways to stop the car before it rams into anything, like deploying those spiked strips. If they were so afraid for the baby, escalating the situation might not have been the best way to make sure the baby was safe.
 
2014-02-08 06:22:28 AM  

Big Ramifications: Headline reminded me of the doctor who recently got pulled over for a traffic stop. Search of his car revealed 50 LARGE in cash, a 44 revolver, and a 45 pistol and loaded clips.

But what made this traffic stop memorable was he repeatedly and violently tried to fake some "police brutality" injuries on his own head.. while SCREAMING OUT FOR HIS MONEY and yelling at the cops NOT TO TAKE HIS MONEY.

The good doctor went completely. Farking. Bananas. Police cameras caught it all.

Dr. Zachary Charles Bird, at your service. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6cuFCbpgU   [turn ur volume down a tad]


Even sober I'd be visibly upset if the police stole 50K from me.
 
2014-02-08 06:23:03 AM  

Big Ramifications: Headline reminded me of the doctor who recently got pulled over for a traffic stop. Search of his car revealed 50 LARGE in cash, a 44 revolver, and a 45 pistol and loaded clips.

But what made this traffic stop memorable was he repeatedly and violently tried to fake some "police brutality" injuries on his own head.. while SCREAMING OUT FOR HIS MONEY and yelling at the cops NOT TO TAKE HIS MONEY.

The good doctor went completely. Farking. Bananas. Police cameras caught it all.

Dr. Zachary Charles Bird, at your service. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6cuFCbpgU   [turn ur volume down a tad]


Jeez, what ever he was on is a hell of a drug.

stopthesethings.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-08 06:28:20 AM  
*sigh*

Lenny_da_Hog: Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.


Yknow what, being in a car is not 'unarmed', especially when you try to run people over.  Lets you and I have a fight, you with your fists, me with my car, I'm unarmed right?
 
2014-02-08 06:31:41 AM  
So the same family that knew she had been diagnosed with post-partum depression and psychosis but let her out unsupervised anyway wants to sue the police department, who knew nothing of those diagnoses, for killing her as a result of aggressive actions using her car as a weapon.  Whether or not the police were completely justified in her killing, the family is going to have a difficult time escaping a good share of the responsibility.
 
2014-02-08 06:37:01 AM  
Can the police counter-sue for emotional damage because the family failed to keep this woman under control and away from danger?  She was ramming the front gates of the white house and then made a beeline towards the capitol building when that failed for christ sake.  Yes of course this was going to be met with lethal force, if anyone is in the wrong its those that let this very dangerous woman take he daughter on that joy ride to nothing of value was lostville.
 
2014-02-08 06:42:13 AM  

voran: *sigh* Lenny_da_Hog: Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.

Yknow what, being in a car is not 'unarmed', especially when you try to run people over.  Lets you and I have a fight, you with your fists, me with my car, I'm unarmed right?


She'd wrecked the car before they killed her.
 
2014-02-08 06:51:03 AM  
s1.dmcdn.net are impressed.

/not obscure
 
2014-02-08 06:52:39 AM  

ambercat: whitman00: ambercat: Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.

She was, but crazy doesn't need to be riddled with bullets unless it's trying to harm someone. Police need to spend more time doing things between the 'doing nothing' and 'shooting at whatever stopped me from doing nothing till it's dead' ends of the spectrum. Like...detaining and questioning people, arresting them if necessary. Without unneeded taserings would be great, too.

Why do I think if the police had not used deadly force after they clearly saw there was a baby in the car, and she rammed her car into a building at 100 mph killing the baby, the family would be suing for $100 million because the police didn't stop her and you would be here posting about how the police should have done more.

4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

Was there any reason to believe the car was rigged with explosives? Car chases aren't exactly uncommon, police departments normally have protocols in place to deal with them, and ways to stop the car before it rams into anything, like deploying those spiked strips. If they were so afraid for the baby, escalating the situation might not have been the best way to make sure the baby was safe.


Did you read about or watch any footage of this event?

- Rammed a barrier near the White House.   Surrounded by police with guns drawn.
- Police do not fire at her as she backs away from barrier and speeds down the street.
- She got by a barrier the police set up on Constitution ave.
- During car chase, she rams a police car who tried to stop her.
 
2014-02-08 07:06:18 AM  

beer4breakfast: Big Ramifications: Headline reminded me of the doctor who recently got pulled over for a traffic stop. Search of his car revealed 50 LARGE in cash, a 44 revolver, and a 45 pistol and loaded clips.

But what made this traffic stop memorable was he repeatedly and violently tried to fake some "police brutality" injuries on his own head.. while SCREAMING OUT FOR HIS MONEY and yelling at the cops NOT TO TAKE HIS MONEY.

The good doctor went completely. Farking. Bananas. Police cameras caught it all.

Dr. Zachary Charles Bird, at your service. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6cuFCbpgU   [turn ur volume down a tad]

Even sober I'd be visibly upset if the police stole 50K from me.


Who is stealing money? They have to inventory everything in that car because of the arrest.
 
2014-02-08 07:15:43 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.


While I'm generally "the police shouldn't even be armed" (I'm British, and we generally cope just fine), I think "ramming the White House with a car" is one of those "Yeah, I understand" situations.
 
2014-02-08 07:18:35 AM  

Bungles: Lenny_da_Hog: Good.

I'd like to see a lot more lawsuits that might just make US police forces re-think their shoot-first policies. Patience and cool-headedness should be part of police policy.

Eluding police should not be a death sentence. People panic. People can be crazy. They had this unarmed woman cornered and gunned her down without any consideration for the baby in the car -- they didn't stop to get any information before they fired.

Let them fight it out in court with an ambulance-chaser, and make it cost them money and hassle to do it.

While I'm generally "the police shouldn't even be armed" (I'm British, and we generally cope just fine), I think "ramming the White House with a car" is one of those "Yeah, I understand" situations.


She didn't do that. She never rammed the White House barriers. She drove up to them, they placed a sawhorse barrier behind her, and she backed into that. 

Initial reports that the car tried to drive through a barrier onto the White House grounds were not correct, according to witnesses quoted by the Washington Post. Officers told the driver to stop, and placed a temporary barrier behind her car, and the driver backed into this fence and sped away, they said.
 
2014-02-08 07:31:00 AM  
I'm reallllyyyy trying to find sympathy for this family. But I cant. The Secret Services number one job is to protect the president. You do the kinds of acts she did and yes, you will be gunned down because it is their job and they can't tell if you're a woman off your meds or someone hell bent on assassinating the commander in chief. Same way with the DC police and the capitol building.
 
2014-02-08 07:38:37 AM  
The crazy lady was less dangerous to society than the cops firing off rounds in every direction, I hope her family wins the total amount they are after. fark trigger happy cops.
 
2014-02-08 07:41:03 AM  
I sense the NSA is watching me masturbate through the camera lens on my laptop.
/don't shoot me
 
2014-02-08 07:44:00 AM  

GungFu: Thanks, electronically-controlling Obama!


I wonder why they are not suing the messiah ?
 
2014-02-08 07:54:58 AM  
FTFA you linked.... "Carey initially drove into the driveway leading to the White House at about 2:12 p.m. on Thursday, hit some temporary fencing, then backed up, striking a Secret Service officer, who suffered minor injuries." The striking of the officer here allows deadly force to be used. It also states that she struck another police vehicle during the chase. Combine those two and it shows a pattern of wanting to cause death or great bodily harm to the officers. Even though the vehicle may have been stuck, her previous actions showed that if the car became free she would attempt to strike another officer with her car. That justifies use of deadly force for all law enforcement agencies. Add on the fact that the Secret Service and Capital Police have more leeway than others... you're SOL family.
 
2014-02-08 08:00:23 AM  

Mr. Fuzzypaws: Good luck with that. Biatch was crazy.


Because the news never pushes an agenda or tries to force opinions on the viewers/readers; they just objectively report the facts.

/and the Central Park Five were guilty.
//as were the Duke Lacrosse team.
///and the West Memphis Three
 
2014-02-08 08:04:12 AM  
When protecting DC you don't have time or luxury of stopping to fullly check every nook and cranny for explosives during a high speed chase. The only reason to kill her with the limited knowledge they had at that time would have been a suspicion that she had a detonator on her person that she needed to manually trigger.

Other than that it was target practice, fear or rage.
 
2014-02-08 08:06:02 AM  

ambercat: Was there any reason to believe the car was rigged with explosives?


Because 9/11. Every person is assumed to be a terrorist and shot. They just don't have enough time to shoot all of us. Yet.
 
2014-02-08 08:12:02 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.


Didn't stop to find out? If I remember correctly there is video of an officer almost leaning into the car and talking to her and then she backed up, rammed police cars, and sped off......usually ramming a police car is considered use of lethal force against an officer and they responded accordingly. Sure maybe the cop could have reached into the car and snatched the keys, jammed on the parking break, or whatever...but this isn't the movies.
 
2014-02-08 08:17:13 AM  

OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.

Didn't stop to find out? If I remember correctly there is video of an officer almost leaning into the car and talking to her and then she backed up, rammed police cars, and sped off......usually ramming a police car is considered use of lethal force against an officer and they responded accordingly. Sure maybe the cop could have reached into the car and snatched the keys, jammed on the parking break, or whatever...but this isn't the movies.


"Responding accordingly" doesn't mean "After the situation changes, and you have her trapped, you can shoot her now for hitting a police car earlier."
 
2014-02-08 08:27:31 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.

Didn't stop to find out? If I remember correctly there is video of an officer almost leaning into the car and talking to her and then she backed up, rammed police cars, and sped off......usually ramming a police car is considered use of lethal force against an officer and they responded accordingly. Sure maybe the cop could have reached into the car and snatched the keys, jammed on the parking break, or whatever...but this isn't the movies.

"Responding accordingly" doesn't mean "After the situation changes, and you have her trapped, you can shoot her now for hitting a police car earlier."


She rammed a police car right then and there, not from earlier. The cop backed away from her window when she went in reverse and hit a cop car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClOx42-JAxw  (about 46 seconds in, it's the first video that popped up). Then they drew guns and fired...seems like SOP...not that I necessarily agree with it.
 
2014-02-08 08:31:15 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.

Didn't stop to find out? If I remember correctly there is video of an officer almost leaning into the car and talking to her and then she backed up, rammed police cars, and sped off......usually ramming a police car is considered use of lethal force against an officer and they responded accordingly. Sure maybe the cop could have reached into the car and snatched the keys, jammed on the parking break, or whatever...but this isn't the movies.

"Responding accordingly" doesn't mean "After the situation changes, and you have her trapped, you can shoot her now for hitting a police car earlier."


It's still considered the same incident for purposes of law. The police and Secret Service were attempting to take her into custody, and her actions following that escalated the situation.

Yeah, sucks that she was shot, but I also think the cops acted accordingly. Public monuments, and especially the White House, are targets for terrorism, and yes, if they order you to stop the car, stop the farking car.

There are laws that also protect the safety and lives of law enforcement in the line of duty. Crazy lady was duly batshiat crazy, the cops responded. Sadly, this seems more a lawyer trying to squeeze some cash out.
 
2014-02-08 08:34:28 AM  

OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.

Didn't stop to find out? If I remember correctly there is video of an officer almost leaning into the car and talking to her and then she backed up, rammed police cars, and sped off......usually ramming a police car is considered use of lethal force against an officer and they responded accordingly. Sure maybe the cop could have reached into the car and snatched the keys, jammed on the parking break, or whatever...but this isn't the movies.

"Responding accordingly" doesn't mean "After the situation changes, and you have her trapped, you can shoot her now for hitting a police car earlier."

She rammed a police car right then and there, not from earlier. The cop backed away from her window when she went in reverse and hit a cop car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClOx42-JAxw  (about 46 seconds in, it's the first video that popped up). Then they drew guns and fired...seems like SOP...not that I necessarily agree with it.


There were two separate incidents of gunfire. They shot at the car at that point ineffectively. They killed her later when she was high-centered on a median strip and trapped there.
 
2014-02-08 08:41:12 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: OhioUGrad: Lenny_da_Hog: whitman00: 4000 lb car, crazy rambling woman driving erratically, baby trapped in the back, unknowns about car being rigged with explosives and 30 seconds to decide what to do.  Go....

If a suicide bomb was suspected, killing her could have made it go off.

The fact is they didn't stop to find out what was going on. They gunned her down without assessing the situation.

Didn't stop to find out? If I remember correctly there is video of an officer almost leaning into the car and talking to her and then she backed up, rammed police cars, and sped off......usually ramming a police car is considered use of lethal force against an officer and they responded accordingly. Sure maybe the cop could have reached into the car and snatched the keys, jammed on the parking break, or whatever...but this isn't the movies.

"Responding accordingly" doesn't mean "After the situation changes, and you have her trapped, you can shoot her now for hitting a police car earlier."

She rammed a police car right then and there, not from earlier. The cop backed away from her window when she went in reverse and hit a cop car http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClOx42-JAxw  (about 46 seconds in, it's the first video that popped up). Then they drew guns and fired...seems like SOP...not that I necessarily agree with it.

There were two separate incidents of gunfire. They shot at the car at that point ineffectively. They killed her later when she was high-centered on a median strip and trapped there.


Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.
 
2014-02-08 08:44:46 AM  

Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.


if anyone outside the US wonders why we have a militarized police force and some of the highest incarercation rates in the world look at comments like this and realize that a large portion of the American public believes things like this.
 
2014-02-08 08:48:23 AM  

Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.


"Had used" is not the same as "can now use." If you shoot a gun, then drop the gun, should the police be able to kill you after you're no longer armed?

Her car was disabled. There was no sign of any other weapons other than the car. Even after they'd initially shot at her, she didn't return fire at them -- she was just running. Her behavior was consistent with flight in panic.

Better Call Saul.
 
2014-02-08 09:01:28 AM  

Lenny_da_Hog: Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.

"Had used" is not the same as "can now use." If you shoot a gun, then drop the gun, should the police be able to kill you after you're no longer armed?

Her car was disabled. There was no sign of any other weapons other than the car. Even after they'd initially shot at her, she didn't return fire at them -- she was just running. Her behavior was consistent with flight in panic.

Better Call Saul.


Citation Needed. I haven't seen anything saying that her car was disabled.
 
2014-02-08 09:02:49 AM  

Headso: Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.

if anyone outside the US wonders why we have a militarized police force and some of the highest incarercation rates in the world look at comments like this and realize that a large portion of the American public believes things like this.


We have the highest incarceration rate in the world because we treat drug addiction like a crime and not a disease.
However, if someone is threating the life of Police officers, I have no issue with them using deadly force.
 
2014-02-08 09:06:15 AM  
To protect and serve.

She got served.
 
2014-02-08 09:07:48 AM  

Publikwerks: Lenny_da_Hog: Publikwerks: Once she hit a USSS officer with her car, she had used lethal force. Game over. Don't use lethal force against the PO PO if you don't want to get shot.

"Had used" is not the same as "can now use." If you shoot a gun, then drop the gun, should the police be able to kill you after you're no longer armed?

Her car was disabled. There was no sign of any other weapons other than the car. Even after they'd initially shot at her, she didn't return fire at them -- she was just running. Her behavior was consistent with flight in panic.

Better Call Saul.

Citation Needed. I haven't seen anything saying that her car was disabled.


The officials said she made a U-turn and became stuck on a median by a Capitol Police guard post, where she was shot dead. Seventeen shots were fired into the car at this point, they said.
 
2014-02-08 09:14:50 AM  

JSam21: beer4breakfast: Big Ramifications:

>> Dr. Zachary Charles Bird, at your service. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qd6cuFCbpgU

> Even sober I'd be visibly upset if the police stole 50K from me.

Who is stealing money? They have to inventory everything in that car because of the arrest.


I've never noticed this before coz it's too painful for me to sit thru....

I randomly clicked towards the very end of the youtube clip, and you hear a cop explaining to another cop [mebbes a superior officer who just arrived on the scene?] how Dr Crazy is upset about his cash money situation.. Dr Crazy's claimed $amount is mentioned.. then the cop explains that he wants to put all the cash in an evidence bag in front of the cameras.

// the cash that didn't get stuffed down the front of his pants prior to his boss arriving, heh heh
// cop also mentioned there was was cash flyin' everywhere during the commotion
 
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