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2014-02-08 01:03:22 AM

Mark Ratner: steamingpile: Writerly Redoubt: NobleHam: Writerly Redoubt: mrlewish: Keep farking that chicken Mia
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Keep minimizing sexualization of children, perp.

Isn't making false accusations of sexual molestation of children a bit more harmful to the cause?

Not when truth hurts, and whom are you defending sans presence?

Evidence stands.

Yes and there is no evidence showing he did it, her accusing someone even examining doctors said no molestation happened won't back up her claims. Seems pretty much like Mia is throwing further doubt on cases involving children so she can fark off.

What evidence do you want? A DNA sample? What if he just groped her and jizzed in his pants? I just find it hard to believe that this woman would continue to falsely make accusations years later. He's a creep.


I'm a creep, but I'm also not a child molester.

Also I bet 99% of the internet would fall under creepy behavior category at one time.
 
2014-02-08 01:03:32 AM
Wow. Mia sounds like a real biatch.

/Still think it's kinda creepy he married an adopted daughter.
 
2014-02-08 01:03:36 AM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: DamnYankees: Blech. Classic he-said she-said. To me, this op-ed is pretty convincing. But then, when I read an op-ed from someone on Farrow's side (like this one:  http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse- 10-facts), that's pretty convincing to.

The one thing which does confuse me the most is just the basic implausibility that Allen would do this one time, at age 58, and has never done it before or since. As far as I'm aware, no one's ever accused him of doing this before or after. Maybe I don't know enough, but isnt that bizarre for someone who's supposedly a pedophile?

Please, Woody defenders, read this damn link. There is A LOT of corroboration in there.


I read the link. it's just a hit piece.

I'll give you one example.

3.   Allen refused to take a polygraph administered by the Connecticut state police.Instead, he took one from someone hired by his legal team. The Connecticut state police refused to accept the test as evidence. The state attorney, Frank Maco, says that Mia was never asked to take a lie-detector test during the investigation.

you know what that should say instead?

3. Allen passed a polygraph test. Mia never took one.

That is a "fact". what the writer wrote was innuendo.
 
2014-02-08 01:03:40 AM
Woody Allen is one of the finest fiction writers in the world, which initially plays in his favor as you read this. But then when you remember that, it backfires against him.
 
2014-02-08 01:04:18 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TV's Vinnie: Fact still remains that he married his own adopted azn daughter. That's skeevy enough.

Nope.


Yep.
 
2014-02-08 01:04:23 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DrBenway: For serious, any idea whose 10-day-old dickwad account this is? Anybody?

I think it's Mr. I'm Not Replying To Him And I Don't Know Why Anyone Else Would Either.


Oh hell, I'm not even replying to him, but point taken. I really need to become more rigorous in the use of [redacted] when referencing nuisance comments.
 
2014-02-08 01:05:28 AM

log_jammin: ThatGuyFromTheInternet: DamnYankees: Blech. Classic he-said she-said. To me, this op-ed is pretty convincing. But then, when I read an op-ed from someone on Farrow's side (like this one:  http://www.vanityfair.com/online/daily/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse- 10-facts), that's pretty convincing to.

The one thing which does confuse me the most is just the basic implausibility that Allen would do this one time, at age 58, and has never done it before or since. As far as I'm aware, no one's ever accused him of doing this before or after. Maybe I don't know enough, but isnt that bizarre for someone who's supposedly a pedophile?

Please, Woody defenders, read this damn link. There is A LOT of corroboration in there.

I read the link. it's just a hit piece.

I'll give you one example.

3.   Allen refused to take a polygraph administered by the Connecticut state police.Instead, he took one from someone hired by his legal team. The Connecticut state police refused to accept the test as evidence. The state attorney, Frank Maco, says that Mia was never asked to take a lie-detector test during the investigation.

you know what that should say instead?

3. Allen passed a polygraph test. Mia never took one.

That is a "fact". what the writer wrote was innuendo.


The Polygraph is a load of hokum and quack science. A sociopath could ace one of those tests and convince you that he's a Saint.
 
2014-02-08 01:05:34 AM

That Guy Jeff: Two people saying what did and didn't happen. I don't know what to think. Luckily, there are professionals who looked into the case and said it was his biatch ex coaching the child to say terrible things. So I'll take their word for it because frankly, I've really got no other option.


I agree with you.  In a situation like this, expert opinion may be our best chance at knowing what really happened.
 
2014-02-08 01:07:26 AM

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 Cousin Vicki: I'm going steady, and I French kiss.


Audrey Griswold: So? Everybody does that.


Cousin Vicki: Yeah, but Daddy says I'm the best at it.

 
2014-02-08 01:07:27 AM

Savage Belief: Wow. Mia sounds like a real biatch.

/Still think it's kinda creepy he married an adopted daughter.


Case closed.
 
2014-02-08 01:07:54 AM
I've thought about it and this comes to mind:

If I hadn't met some seriously vindictive women in my time (luckily not mad at me) I could get behind the mother/daughter's story.  But unfortunately I've found that the slander and legal mayhem is more the rule than exception.  From what I've seen women are much more likely to use the child against the man, which is a crime in my opinion.  There's no reason a child should EVER be used to get back at an adult from a relationship.

I'm going with the guy on this one.  I normally give the victim the benefit of the doubt but this one doesn't add up.
 
2014-02-08 01:07:54 AM

DrBenway: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: DrBenway: For serious, any idea whose 10-day-old dickwad account this is? Anybody?

I think it's Mr. I'm Not Replying To Him And I Don't Know Why Anyone Else Would Either.

Oh hell, I'm not even replying to him, but point taken. I really need to become more rigorous in the use of [redacted] when referencing nuisance comments.


Fooled me. I always thought that kind of sass could come from the fairer sex.
 
2014-02-08 01:08:41 AM

TV's Vinnie: The Polygraph is a load of hokum and quack science.


that may be. but the "fact" is that he took one, and passed it, and she didn't.

TV's Vinnie: A sociopath could ace one of those tests and convince you that he's a Saint.


so could someone who is telling the truth.
 
2014-02-08 01:09:00 AM

Savage Belief: Wow. Mia sounds like a real biatch.

/Still think it's kinda creepy he married an adopted daughter.


And those glasses.
 
2014-02-08 01:09:23 AM

TV's Vinnie: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TV's Vinnie: Fact still remains that he married his own adopted azn daughter. That's skeevy enough.

Nope.

Yep.


Soon-Yi Previn, who he is married to to this day, was Mia and Andre Previn's adopted daughter.  Not Allen's.
 
2014-02-08 01:10:02 AM

doglover: Savage Belief: Wow. Mia sounds like a real biatch.

/Still think it's kinda creepy he married an adopted daughter.

And those glasses.


And those shoes! UGH.
 
2014-02-08 01:10:23 AM

Writerly Redoubt: Beaver Knievel: Writerly Redoubt: Beaver Knievel: Writerly Redoubt: ctrlshiftspace: Is Writerly Redoubt trying to be Meow Said the Dog?

Nope.

I am

Dude, learn to troll before you troll. You're embarrassing yourself.

Way to construct.

Please speak English when trolling.

Please have a tail to grab when beavering...


You're speaking in non sequiturs. No one understands what the hell you're saying!!
 
2014-02-08 01:14:27 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TV's Vinnie: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TV's Vinnie: Fact still remains that he married his own adopted azn daughter. That's skeevy enough.

Nope.

Yep.

Soon-Yi Previn, who he is married to to this day, was Mia and Andre Previn's adopted daughter.  Not Allen's.


yep.


#1: Soon-Yi was Woody's daughter.  False.
#2:  Soon-Yi was Woody's step-daughter.  False.
#3:  Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia's adopted daughter.  False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.
#4:  Woody and Mia were married.  False.
#5:  Woody and Mia lived together.  False. Woody lived in his apartment on Fifth Ave. Mia and her kids lived on Central Park West. In fact, Woody never once stayed over night at Mia's apartment in 12 years.
#6:  Woody and Mia had a common-law marriage.  False. New York State does not recognize common law marriage. Even in states that do, a couple has to cohabitate for a certain number of years.
#7:  Soon-Yi viewed Woody as a father figure.  False. Soon-Yi saw Woody as her mother's boyfriend. Her father figure was her adoptive father, André Previn.
#8: Soon-Yi was underage when she and Woody started having relations.  False. She was either 19 or 21. (Her year of birth in Korea was undocumented, but believed to be either 1970 or '72.)
#9:  Soon-Yi was borderline retarded.  Ha! She's smart as a whip, has a degree from Columbia University and speaks more languages than you.
#10:  Woody was grooming Soon-Yi from an early age to be his child bride.  Oh, come on! According to court documents and Mia's own memoir, until 1990 (when Soon-Yi was 18 or 20), Woody "had little to do with any of the Previn children, (but) had the least to do with Soon-Yi" so Mia encouraged him to spend more time with her. Woody started taking her to basketball games, and the rest is tabloid history. So he hardly "had his eye on her" from the time she was a child.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/27/the-woody-allen-all eg ations-not-so-fast.html
 
2014-02-08 01:14:28 AM
So how's Dory Previn doing on itunes/twitter?
 
2014-02-08 01:15:35 AM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TV's Vinnie: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: TV's Vinnie: Fact still remains that he married his own adopted azn daughter. That's skeevy enough.

Nope.

Yep.

Soon-Yi Previn, who he is married to to this day, was Mia and Andre Previn's adopted daughter.  Not Allen's.


Allen and Farrow also kept separate households. It really just doesn't add up.
 
2014-02-08 01:15:35 AM

Writerly Redoubt: Hector Remarkable: Writerly Redoubt: Hector Remarkable: Writerly Redoubt: Hector Remarkable: Well said, Woody.

Too credit...

Welcome back.

Gotcha?

No, really. I remember you. I just don't remember your other name

Two shiats...


Yeah, anyway, I was being sincere. I recall your ...poetic demeanor and style quite specifically from a few years back here in Farkland. It could be no one else, but the alt still eludes me. I read too much, too fast.
 
2014-02-08 01:16:39 AM

Let's not bring up rapes from the early 90s!


www.allaccess.com

 
2014-02-08 01:18:49 AM

Writerly Redoubt: Bonanza Jellybean: oh great, another terrible meowsaysthedog gimmick account

you're so clever

Nope, you are.

So clever and busted, perp.



Account created:2014-01-2

k...
 
2014-02-08 01:19:02 AM

log_jammin: TV's Vinnie: The Polygraph is a load of hokum and quack science.

that may be. but the "fact" is that he took one, and passed it, and she didn't.

TV's Vinnie: A sociopath could ace one of those tests and convince you that he's a Saint.

so could someone who is telling the truth.


You're wasting your time with this one. The "married his adopted daughter" riff has been shot down more times than I can count and yet they still keep pushing it.

Ha! Listen to me, lecturing anyone about wasting time. But you know what I'm talking about.
 
2014-02-08 01:19:06 AM
Woody Allen responds
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2014-02-08 01:20:16 AM

DrBenway: You're wasting your time with this one. The "married his adopted daughter" riff has been shot down more times than I can count and yet they still keep pushing it.

Ha! Listen to me, lecturing anyone about wasting time. But you know what I'm talking about.


yeah I know. But I've been wasting my time here for over a decade now. It's just what I do.
 
2014-02-08 01:25:12 AM
BTW. "Cousin Vickie" from Natnional Lampoon's vacation is looking mighty fine today
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www.howmuchdotheyweigh.com
 
2014-02-08 01:25:32 AM

Writerly Redoubt: steamingpile: Writerly Redoubt: NobleHam: Writerly Redoubt: mrlewish: Keep farking that chicken Mia
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Keep minimizing sexualization of children, perp.

Isn't making false accusations of sexual molestation of children a bit more harmful to the cause?

Not when truth hurts, and whom are you defending sans presence?

Evidence stands.

Yes and there is no evidence showing he did it, her accusing someone even examining doctors said no molestation happened won't back up her claims. Seems pretty much like Mia is throwing further doubt on cases involving children so she can fark off.

Your handle handles all, no?

Perp.


No, but I agree with what he said. I believe Dylan Farrow is wrong and Mia Farrow lied. And lying about child molestation is far more horrible than any comment one could make in an internet thread.
 
2014-02-08 01:26:32 AM
The guy marries his what 10 year old adopted daughter and he expects people to believe he didn't make a run on the other child available to him...................Please.

And Michael Jackson wasn't a pedophile either.

Yeah ... Sure.
 
2014-02-08 01:27:02 AM

Mark Ratner: What evidence do you want? A DNA sample? What if he just groped her and jizzed in his pants? I just find it hard to believe that this woman would continue to falsely make accusations years later. He's a creep.


If not for all the familial and public trauma, she might have got over which was a fairly minor alleged transgression of her person. Everyone has some sort of crappy event in their life, and you don't get over it by reliving it in a public fashion. I have no clue what happened in her life, but these people are messed up, and playing the victim in public for personal gain.
 
2014-02-08 01:27:20 AM
163 posts down to 108 posts.
 
2014-02-08 01:27:28 AM
Pff, Woody Allen doesn't molest children; he marries them.
 
2014-02-08 01:27:51 AM
Having been married briefly to a crazy redhead I can believe him. It's out of his personal character I can see an abused man easier that an abusive man.
 
2014-02-08 01:28:42 AM

chiett: The guy marries his what 10 year old adopted daughter


from my post earlier

#1: Soon-Yi was Woody's daughter.   False.
#2:  Soon-Yi was Woody's step-daughter.   False.
#3:  Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia's adopted daughter.   False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.
 
2014-02-08 01:31:07 AM

chiett: The guy marries his what 10 year old adopted daughter and he expects people to believe he didn't make a run on the other child available to him...................Please.

And Michael Jackson wasn't a pedophile either.

Yeah ... Sure.


At what point in the last 50 years has marrying a 10-year-old been legal?  Please, tell me what state would allow that.
 
2014-02-08 01:31:31 AM

That Guy Jeff: wo people saying what did and didn't happen. I don't know what to think. Luckily, there are professionals who looked into the case and said it was his biatch ex coaching the child to say terrible things. So I'll take their word for it because frankly, I've really got no other option.


'Please clean out your desk and hand your badge to the guard on the way out'

Seriously how can a rational person claim to know diddly squat about this. Only thing in his favor is, often once the first accusation is made and taken seriously, other victims come forward. So far, thirty years later, it's been tweeting birds/
 
2014-02-08 01:37:20 AM
Well anyway I think we all agree that Woody Allen molested, raped, and killed many, many people's daughters, including his own, and that he's still out there tonight looking for your children,  prowling, ever prowling....
 
2014-02-08 01:38:51 AM
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2014-02-08 01:39:19 AM
Classic case of "The accusation is the evidence."

Honestly, I don't know if he did or didn't, and neither did any of you.

And if any of you say he did without a doubt in your mind, then the only truth is you were there with him when he was molesting/raping/whatever, which makes you an accomplice, a victim, or negligent to attempt to stop a crime in progress.

Otherwise, it's another he-said-she-said incident. I wish it wasn't, but thanks to enough people doing these smear jobs against prolific Hollywood types that have no merit, now everyone gets a skeptical look at their accusation. Surprise, people lie to get money/fame/attention and they don't care how they do it.

Being skeptical of this case does not mean you support pedophilia, it makes you reasonable. So there's no need to feel guilty.
 
2014-02-08 01:40:47 AM

Bigdogdaddy: BTW. "Cousin Vickie" from Natnional Lampoon's vacation is looking mighty fine today
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Have you never seen "30 Rock"?
 
2014-02-08 01:40:57 AM

log_jammin: #1: Soon-Yi was Woody's daughter. False.
#2: Soon-Yi was Woody's step-daughter. False.
#3: Soon-Yi was Woody and Mia's adopted daughter. False. Soon-Yi was the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and André Previn. Her full name was Soon-Yi Farrow Previn.


So that's all cool then...he and dated his former girl friend of 10 years adopted daughter..and eventually married the girl friends daughter A girl friend that had sexual relations with and a child with...but said he never stayed the night at her house...Really, you believe that?

Does that make it any better to show the guy has some boundary issues? Farking your former girl friend 'daughter' at any age? Oh yeah...that's pretty normal.

I also find it difficult to accept that Woody and Mia never met at her house in their relationship which produced a biological child and that the other children where just orbiting around for 10 years without any contact with Woody. Does that sound rational to you?

The Dude has boundry issues. That's pretty obvious...the jump is how much those and how deep those issues extend.
 
2014-02-08 01:41:07 AM

gibbon1: That Guy Jeff: wo people saying what did and didn't happen. I don't know what to think. Luckily, there are professionals who looked into the case and said it was his biatch ex coaching the child to say terrible things. So I'll take their word for it because frankly, I've really got no other option.

'Please clean out your desk and hand your badge to the guard on the way out'

Seriously how can a rational person claim to know diddly squat about this. Only thing in his favor is, often once the first accusation is made and taken seriously, other victims come forward. So far, thirty years later, it's been tweeting birds/


I'd also like to know how he and Soon Yi were allowed to adopt two children of their own if there was any serious consideration given any of this. If someone has evidence of payoffs or black market connections or what have you, I would be thrilled to hear about it. I'm guessing not, though I'm sure there are some absolutely fascinating theories someone will be happy to share.
 
2014-02-08 01:42:24 AM

doglover: We have to stop jumping the gun and just saying "Guilty" because someone accused them of certain crimes.


I don't think you understand how the internet works.
 
2014-02-08 01:45:03 AM
I was always swayed by the idea that Mia was making this stuff up against Woody because she was furious about the Soon-Yi thing. Then again, the old "woman scorned" furphy is just that: a furphy. Men often use it against women, along with the stereotype of women being irrational and emotional, and therefore less intelligent.

However, there is no real evidence that Woody ever molested his daughter except the word of one troubled seven-year-old, so he is innocent in my mind.

That doesn't mean that he is not an appalling human being, so self-absorbed that he has turned his own fury at Mia into continual diatribes against her. His mention of child support is a case in point. He attacks her for allegedly having the odd bonk with her former husband while he was seducing an 18-year-old girl, who just happened to be his girlfriend's daughter.

The judge's opinion in the original custody suit lays it all out. Mia was a good mother who mainly did the right thing, Woody was a complete shiate, but it is unlikely he poked his daughter.

http://www.vanityfair.com/dam/2014/02/woody-allen-1992-custody-suit. pd f
 
2014-02-08 01:46:05 AM

Writerly Redoubt: I see you.

You don't see me.

Welcome to FARK.

;)


I see you. Are you drunk or off your meds? Or both? Cheers.
 
2014-02-08 01:47:27 AM
You know, his 70s movies were frickin' hysterical. Once he got serious all the fun went out of his flicks.

I never get tired of Gene Wilder and his sheep wife.
 
2014-02-08 01:48:13 AM

steerforth: furphy


www.quickmeme.com
 
2014-02-08 01:48:18 AM

NobleHam: Meh, I doubted it was true anyway, but the Soon-Yi stuff makes it believable to a lot of people. Marrying your girlfriend's adopted daughter is a little weird. Sure, she was (as far as is known) of age when the relationship began, but the age gap combined with the fact that he knew her when she was 8 is a bit odd.


Specifically, it establishes a precedent of him violating the stepparent/stepchild relationship.
 
2014-02-08 01:48:54 AM

optikeye: but said he never stayed the night at her house...Really, you believe that?


It doesn't matter if that is true or not since the alleged incident happened after they were broke up and in a custody dispute. so whether he stayed the night or not, before then is irrelevant.


optikeye: I also find it difficult to accept that Woody and Mia never met at her house in their relationship which produced a biological child and that the other children where just orbiting around for 10 years without any contact with Woody. Does that sound rational to you?


rational? no. it sounds made up to me.

no one said they never met at her house, or that he had no contact with the other children. the article said he never stayed the night at her house, not that he never "meet" her there. it also said he didn't spend much time and wasn't very close to the other kids, not that he never had contact with them.
 
2014-02-08 01:49:33 AM
I did not rape that sweet, succulent 7 year old ass.
 
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