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(WSBTV)   Man goes to court to fight speeding ticket, instead gets banished from county forever   (wsbtv.com) divider line 115
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2014-02-07 05:31:09 PM
"I asked him to lower it, but instead he give me a $1,000 fine, 12-month probation, driving school and he banished me from the county," Riley said.

My recollection is Georgia law sets a limit well below $1,000 on the fine for speeding 15 over. Speeding, even 1 over, it is still a misdemeanor and they can lock you up for a year. The fine limit is intended to take the profit motive out of speed enforcement.

So what judges do is punish you for going to trial. They won't lock you up because jail costs money, but they will treat you like a real criminal otherwise. You'd best pay up and keep the revenue flowing without effort.

In Massachusetts such banishment orders are generally unconstitutional absent a particularized reason why the individual needs to be banned. I don't know whether this rule derived from the federal constitution or only the state constitution.
 
2014-02-07 06:20:04 PM
I'm not saying it sounds like the judge has issues, but I think it sounds like the judge has issues.
 
2014-02-07 06:20:45 PM
Time to bring back the Star Chamber.
 
2014-02-07 06:21:04 PM
Looks at state. Looks at pic of victim. Yep, go figure.
 
2014-02-07 06:22:19 PM
Law Talkin While Black.

That's a banishin
 
2014-02-07 06:23:01 PM
Someone needs to call a lawyer and appeal
 
2014-02-07 06:23:28 PM
"I didn't commit no murder, I'm not a sex offender, I'm not a criminal. I just got a speeding ticket, so I think that's not fair," Riley said.

So he admits that he's a murderer. As good a reason as any to banish someone from the county.
 
2014-02-07 06:23:30 PM

Aussie_As: I'm not saying it sounds like the judge has issues, but I think it sounds like the judge has issues.


Well, considering his name is Brad Brownlow it's hard to imagine him not having issues. His family is named for the anus. That's gotta be a tough burden to bear, especially growing up.
 
2014-02-07 06:26:21 PM
If you're going to the trouble of legally banishing someone, you should at least tie them up, stick them on a mule, and make a parade of it.
 
2014-02-07 06:26:26 PM
I remember a story on NPR years ago about this:

Echols County has become notable in recent years as it has served as a place of banishment for many of Georgia's criminals. As the Georgia State Constitution forbids banishment beyond the borders of the state, officials instead ban the offender from 158 of Georgia's 159 counties, with Echols remaining as their only option. No such criminal has been documented as actually moving to Echols.

- Wikipedia


Here in Maine they just seam to gravitate to Lewiston all by themselves.
 
2014-02-07 06:26:39 PM
I was going to say it perhaps could be fought on the grounds of a constitutional ban on cruel and unusual punishment.

Then I remember he was banned from a place in rural Georgia.  Easy to argue that's advantageous, not cruel

/so it's 30 miles from Atlanta.  Don't wreck my joke.
//don't know if in that area a 'bagel' is a hunting dog or a bouncy donut.
 
2014-02-07 06:26:52 PM
Well he should have thought of the consequences before he decided to speed. These lawbreakers get what they deserve.
 
2014-02-07 06:27:34 PM
i live in the Atlanta area ..trust me ...the judge did him a favor on banning him from Walton county
 
2014-02-07 06:28:50 PM
I can't imagine a system of exile would be constitutional.  But then again, I can't imagine a whole host of laws in this country are constitutional.

But then again, who am I to question it?  A nobody, that's who.  A nobody that's got no business questioning his betters.
 
2014-02-07 06:29:32 PM
Anyone that ever drove I-95 to Florida knows Georgia cops are awful people pulling over as many tourist as they can to make a buck.
 
2014-02-07 06:29:49 PM

lordjupiter: Law Talkin While Black.

That's a banishin


I believe the legal terminology is "uppity."
 
2014-02-07 06:31:34 PM

Dont Call Me Shirley: Time to bring back the Star Chamber.


I know we hate speeders, but don't you think death by anonymous hit man is a little harsh?
 
2014-02-07 06:33:47 PM
This is what you get if you commit a DWB kids.
 
2014-02-07 06:33:52 PM

Katolu: Looks at state. Looks at pic of victim. Yep, go figure.


Are you saying that the judge found this man annoying?
 
2014-02-07 06:34:29 PM
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2014-02-07 06:35:11 PM
There was no recording made of the courtroom proceeding...


Then it never happened.
 
2014-02-07 06:36:14 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: Katolu: Looks at state. Looks at pic of victim. Yep, go figure.

Are you saying that the judge found this man annoying?


I think he was nagging the Judge.
 
2014-02-07 06:38:02 PM
I kept waiting for the detail that would make this not exactly what it sounds like. It never came.

I admit I'm torn. On the one hand, banishment from an entire county shouldn't even be remotely constitutional, so this is completely outrageous even before you factor in that his crime is one most of us commit every day.

On the other hand, if I were a Georgia judge, I'd abuse the fark out of this power just for the lulz. And also for the safety of my jurisdiction. You killed ten people? shiat, never mind jail, you're just banished. And, um, promise me you'll report yourself to the police wherever you end up once I've banished you the fark out of where I live. But the important part is, just go be a murderer somewhere else.
 
2014-02-07 06:38:04 PM

Kyosuke: There was no recording made of the courtroom proceeding...

Then it never happened.


I thought something similar.

If there's no record then how can it be enforced?
 
2014-02-07 06:39:39 PM
brownlow is an insane racist ahole. yes banishment is unconstitutional...so was the vietnam war, japanese internment, and mrs wilson acting as president in 1920. might makes right.
 
2014-02-07 06:40:12 PM
Riley can never enter Walton County again without facing the possibility of being sent to jail.

This cannot be constitutional.  A County is not private property.
 
2014-02-07 06:40:47 PM
Black man in Georgia treated unfairly?

[Obvious]
 
2014-02-07 06:41:00 PM
There has got to be more to this. The judge sounds cray cray, but no one even noticed or remembered this? If I was at traffic court and the dude in front of me got a huge fine like that, banished, and probation for speeding I'd notice that shiat. IsnIsn't the docket public record? It should be simple to find out who is there.
 
2014-02-07 06:42:21 PM
Mistake no. 1 - leaving Atlanta and going into a redneck county in Georgia

Mistake no.2 - Being black in said redneck county

Mistake no. 3 - breaking the law in said redneck county

Mistake no. 4 - thinking he could talk his way out of it with a redneck county judge.

He's just lucky they didn't throw him in jail for a couple of months just for the hell of it.
 
2014-02-07 06:43:20 PM
Seems the judge found a way to keep black folks out of his county, banish them one by one.
 
2014-02-07 06:43:49 PM

Dinki: Mistake no. 1 - leaving Atlanta and going into a redneck county in Georgia

Mistake no.2 - Being black in said redneck county

Mistake no. 3 - breaking the law in said redneck county

Mistake no. 4 - thinking he could talk his way out of it with a redneck county judge.

He's just lucky they didn't throw him in jail for a couple of months just for the hell of it.


this may all be true, my biatching is more at the reporter. How could they not manage to find a single witness to verify this?
 
2014-02-07 06:46:02 PM
If there's anything with a bigger ego than a county judge from the South, I want it tracked down and shot.
 
2014-02-07 06:47:23 PM
So, he's heading to Mantua?
 
2014-02-07 06:47:41 PM
Man could've saved himself a lot of hassle if he'd just paid the fine instead of going to trial.  But then, he may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer...

FTFA :"[reporter] asked Riley if he would think again before speeding -- Riley replied with a laugh and said 'Uh, no.'"
 
2014-02-07 06:49:56 PM

Anthracite: Someone needs to call a lawyer and appeal


Or write a clemency request to the governor
 
2014-02-07 06:50:48 PM
Meh.  It's only Walton County.  I've lived in Atlanta for 14 years and I've never been there.  Is the Applebee's better there than the one in Gwinnett?
 
2014-02-07 06:52:31 PM
According to the internets, the practice of banning someone from the entire state was found unconstitutional. So Georgia's judges started banning people from 158 of their 159 counties instead, which was totally legit.

You'd think they'd all be banished from everywhere but Glascock County or Butts County, for the humiliating names, but apparently most judges chose one of the swampland counties along the Florida border. (Link.) I don't know what's stopping judges in  those counties from vacating the original order and re-banning the offender from everywhere except the original judge's bedroom closet, but I'm not a lawyer. (And if I try to be one, I might get banished.)

Stay classy, Georgia.
 
2014-02-07 06:52:32 PM
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banned.
 
2014-02-07 06:52:57 PM
Here in the Florida Keys (Monroe County), judges routinely hand out five-year banishments from the county for serious fishing offenses, mostly for poaching lobster out of season.
 
2014-02-07 06:55:01 PM

MFAWG: Representative of the unwashed masses: Katolu: Looks at state. Looks at pic of victim. Yep, go figure.

Are you saying that the judge found this man annoying?

I think he was nagging the Judge.


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2014-02-07 06:56:42 PM
Here's an article about the practice of banning people from all but one county.  I'm still not quite sure how this is legal since it seems like it should be infringing on people's freedom of expression and assembly but then again, I'm not a lawyer or a judge so I really don't know.

http://americancityandcounty.com/mag/government_qarural_county_baffl ed
 
2014-02-07 06:56:51 PM
See, this is what I am concerned about. I fear local government far more than I fear the Federal government. The Feds don't have such a direct impact on my life (ie. the FBI never gave me a speeding ticket).

It's these local officials that cause all of these problems.

Also If I were black I'd still stay out of the deep south we're still pretty farked up down here.

/So TEA partiers, second amendment solution for the judge?
 
2014-02-07 06:58:00 PM
Yeah, we cool. Two things. Don't tell nobody about this. This shiat is between me, you, and Mr. Soon-To-Be-Living-The-Rest-of-His-Short-Ass-Life-In-Agonizing-Pain Rapist here. It ain't nobody else's business. Two: you leave town tonight, right now. And when you're gone, you stay gone, or you be gone. You lost all your L.A. privileges. Deal?

www.morethings.com

It's happened before.  It'll happen again.  Don't fark up and lose your LA (or county of your choosing) privilages
 
2014-02-07 06:58:36 PM

Atomic Spunk: "I didn't commit no murder, I'm not a sex offender, I'm not a criminal. I just got a speeding ticket, so I think that's not fair," Riley said.

So he admits that he's a murderer. As good a reason as any to banish someone from the county.


Language =/= math.

Math rules do not apply to language.

But you knew this.
 
2014-02-07 06:58:46 PM

obamadidcoke: See, this is what I am concerned about. I fear local government far more than I fear the Federal government. The Feds don't have such a direct impact on my life (ie. the FBI never gave me a speeding ticket).

It's these local officials that cause all of these problems.

Also If I were black I'd still stay out of the deep south we're still pretty farked up down here.

/So TEA partiers, second amendment solution for the judge?


Nope.  Hang him.  The rope is recycleable
 
2014-02-07 07:00:08 PM
How much murder is too much murder?
 
2014-02-07 07:00:26 PM

Xanadone: Man could've saved himself a lot of hassle if he'd just paid the fine instead of going to trial.  But then, he may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer...

FTFA :"[reporter] asked Riley if he would think again before speeding -- Riley replied with a laugh and said 'Uh, no.'"


Uh, yeah, the reasonable response to injustice is to start obeying the law obsequiously, of course.
 
2014-02-07 07:01:59 PM
the milk man left me a note yesterday

said get out of town by noon

you're coming on way too soon

besides that we never liked you anyway


damn milkmen....
 
2014-02-07 07:02:23 PM
Thomas asked Riley if he would think again before speeding -- Riley replied with a laugh and said "Uh, no."

What's this moran's Fark handle?

/he did way more than talk back to the judge
//willing to bet money on that
 
2014-02-07 07:03:29 PM

ArcadianRefugee: Atomic Spunk: "I didn't commit no murder, I'm not a sex offender, I'm not a criminal. I just got a speeding ticket, so I think that's not fair," Riley said.

So he admits that he's a murderer. As good a reason as any to banish someone from the county.

Language =/= math.

Math rules do not apply to language.

But you knew this.


Logic applies to language.
 
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