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(My Fox Tampa Bay)   Surveillance video from inside shows what happened in the Florida movie theater shooting   (myfoxtampabay.com) divider line 57
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2014-02-07 10:41:19 PM
7 votes:

LesserEvil: AirForceVet: Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.

The old guy overreacted and took a man's life over getting pissed off and saying something about the victim using his cell phone before the movie started.

No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.

My take-away is the old guy saying "I'm 71 years old..." - he was basically admitting that he didn't care enough to be concerned that he was going to potentially take a life when he drew his gun.


The guy will never be a texting asshole in a theater again, so there's that.

What this society lacks is a whole lot of, "Oops!  You're right.  I farked up.  Sorry."

The asshole probably DID deserve to be shot, based on the video.  If you look closely, he lunged over the seat, grabbed the guy's popcorn, threw it at him, all while probably yelling at the guy.  The popcorn throw was probably followed by him raring back to do more, had the old guy not shot him.

We'll never know, but the entire incident could have been avoided if the asshole had just had a little bit of respect for other people around him and just apologized.  "I'm sorry.  I was just letting the babysitter know the movie was starting.  Phone is off and headed into my pocket."
2014-02-07 10:44:53 PM
4 votes:

TOSViolation: LesserEvil: AirForceVet: Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.

The old guy overreacted and took a man's life over getting pissed off and saying something about the victim using his cell phone before the movie started.

No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.

My take-away is the old guy saying "I'm 71 years old..." - he was basically admitting that he didn't care enough to be concerned that he was going to potentially take a life when he drew his gun.

The guy will never be a texting asshole in a theater again, so there's that.

What this society lacks is a whole lot of, "Oops!  You're right.  I farked up.  Sorry."

The asshole probably DID deserve to be shot, based on the video.  If you look closely, he lunged over the seat, grabbed the guy's popcorn, threw it at him, all while probably yelling at the guy.  The popcorn throw was probably followed by him raring back to do more, had the old guy not shot him.

We'll never know, but the entire incident could have been avoided if the asshole had just had a little bit of respect for other people around him and just apologized.  "I'm sorry.  I was just letting the babysitter know the movie was starting.  Phone is off and headed into my pocket."


Or you know because it was the previews and not the actual movie the old man could just nutted up and ignored it.
2014-02-07 11:44:47 PM
3 votes:
I don't know what video you guys saw, but that video I saw shows a much younger man ASSAULTING an old man.


While I agree that probably shooting someone isn't the best course of action, if you research a little something called disparity of force, and if you look at the laws as well as do some research on things like 1 punch kills, you will come up with some interesting things.


1.)  In order to legally deploy lethal force in self defense, NO INJURY is needed.
2.)  Assaulting old men can get you dead
3.) Differences in age, or sex, or strength can be justifications for employing lethal force.  Disparity of force.
4.) Old and perhaps feeble people are at very big disadvantage to young and healthy people.  A single punch could kill some seniors.  They don't have to wait until they are punched.
5.) The 3 prongs of a justifiable self defense are:  A.) Did the person have the means (weapon, training, disparity of force, etc)  Yes, we have a much younger and probably larger man against an old and perhaps feeble man with possibly health problems   B.) Did they have intent to cause great harm.  Was the guy who got shot threatening the old man.  Did he say he was going to f**k him up or anything?  Did he assault him?  Yes, he clearly assaulted the old man.    C.) Immediacy.  Was the attack going to happen immediately?  Yes, it did.  The old man was most definitely assaulted by the younger man.  Throwing the cell phone, taking the swing, and then throwing the pop corn absolutely constitute assault.


So whether you agree with the outcome or not, we can see that the younger man indeed assaulted the older man.  He was most likely much more healthy and strong.  He was immediately attacking the man.  (regardless of what you think the severity of the throwing things was, it was most definitely an attack, and the old man at that point had no idea what was going to happen after... ie, was the attack going to continue)  The old man absolutely has no obligation to become injured or even let his opponent hit him.  (he already had hit him by throwing things at him and moving towards him in a threatening and aggresive manner.... 


From a legal stand point, this case is likely to go down to the wire.  It's going to hinge on what the witnesses say transpired before the man attacked the old man.  What was the younger man saying.  How aggressive was he?   Was he cursing?   What was the old man saying?   I think the defense has a good chance of getting the old man out of this.


I'm not saying I think the guy should have been shot...  but I think there are enough factors to show that the old man was reasonably in fear that this younger guy was going to kick his ass.  That's all it takes.  You don't get to go around billy bad assing other people and throwing things in their face and intimidating them.   They don't have to wait until you have pummeled them to the ground to take defensive action.  That's just the way the law is.  Sorry.
2014-02-07 10:58:10 PM
3 votes:

Parthenogenetic: DubyaHater: Can't wait until this guy is found innocent

Yes, so I can bathe in the bitter tears of all you criminal lovers/cop haters.

The punk shouldn't have messed with a retired cop.  Once a cop, always a cop.  The combat reflexes just kicked in.

You're not allowed to use your phone in the movie theater. Period. He doesn't get an exemption because he was texting his precious snowflake.

I'll bet the defense will find some stuff on that phone that proves the deceased criminal wasn't the innocent angel the lie-beral media is making him out to be.


0/10 all around. Even a troll like you can't believe using a cell in a theater is worth getting killed over, unless you're a psycho like the guy from the article, in which case you should be put away. As for what you said about the media, we DO have presumption of innocence here. You're either the world's worst troll, or human garbage. Either way, fark off.
2014-02-07 10:32:50 PM
3 votes:

AirForceVet: Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.


The old guy overreacted and took a man's life over getting pissed off and saying something about the victim using his cell phone before the movie started.

No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.

My take-away is the old guy saying "I'm 71 years old..." - he was basically admitting that he didn't care enough to be concerned that he was going to potentially take a life when he drew his gun.
2014-02-07 08:44:35 PM
3 votes:
Whatever, Here's the take-away:
The f*cker couldn't even get bail in THE stand your ground state.  As a former cop.
2014-02-08 12:06:37 PM
2 votes:
This was a fight between two assholes. period.
The asshole with the gun was victorious.

He will likely pay for this victory for the rest of his life.

Zimmerman was a moron and Trayvon was an overly aggressive punk teen. period.
The moron is still alive.
Everybody trying to make villains and victims out of these incidents is delusional.

I legally carry a gun. Here are MY rules....


NEVER START SH*T
NEVER ATTEMPT TO FINISH SH*T
WHEN SH*T IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN, GET THE F*CK OUT
DON'T EVER ARGUE WITH ANY STRANGER ABOUT ANYTHING FOR ANY REASON
ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS ARMED AND TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY
NEVER EVER BE AFRAID TO "LOSE FACE" IF IT CAN PREVENT SOME SH*T FROM HAPPENING
2014-02-08 06:21:19 AM
2 votes:

Trik: definite overreaction on part of the ex-cop but the father saying he's texting his 3yo kid doesn't ring true
How many 3yo's have and can operate cell phones much less read

If the father hadn't been an entitled ass he wouldn't have gotten shot


He was texting the babysitter, telling her that he was shutting his phone off. That has already been reported. The old Nazi Cop was already biatching about shiat when he sat down behind the couple. He instigated the confrontation and apparently was not at all polite.

I would have told the old bastard to go fark himself too.

What the shooter was, was a hot-tempered lunatic looking for an excuse to commit murder.
2014-02-08 01:26:58 AM
2 votes:

Mock26: If the victim was the one texting then the shooter should be given a medal.  If the shooter was the one texting then he should be castrated and then have his fingers pulled off one-by-one, and after that his nuts gnawed off by beavers with dull teeth, and then burned alive.


the texting was during previews, and he was texting to find out how his 2 year old was doing....
2014-02-08 12:06:25 AM
2 votes:
There were like 100 empty seats. I'd have been pissed at anyone who sat by me in that theater.
2014-02-07 11:41:10 PM
2 votes:

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: "should we ensure that people who have CCL licenses don't have major cognitive defects?"


That would rule out about 50% of the population. The people who want guns the most are the ones you don't want carrying them.
2014-02-07 11:28:38 PM
2 votes:

jayessell: Why Has no one said "early onset alsheimers"?


If Alzheimer's is used to exonerate him, it naturally leads to the question of "should we ensure that people who have CCL licenses don't have major cognitive defects?" Because if there's a class of people walking around with guns who aren't responsible for their actions, keeping those people from having weapons is a legitimate function of government. And that means more hurdles to jump through to get to carry around your gun. So I'd expect there are a lot of people who are eager for that not to be talked about.
2014-02-07 11:21:50 PM
2 votes:
Why does the article call him, "Theater shooting Suspect"? He admits to the shooting!!!!
2014-02-07 11:14:48 PM
2 votes:

santadog: This, and the guy who shot the kids in the SUV for playing loud music at a gas station.  I'm thinking Anger Management needs to be considered as a qualifier to get a gun permit.


Also an older man, and IIRC, the cops had to track him down and when confronted, his response was of the 'Was that wrong? Should I not have done that?' variety

Perhaps what we need is a national dialogue, along the lines of 'Don't shoot, talk'

/of course, there are legitimate circumstances for gun defense, but 'not being listened to' is not one of them
2014-02-07 11:08:42 PM
2 votes:

TOSViolation: The asshole probably DID deserve to be shot, based on the video.  If you look closely, he lunged over the seat, grabbed the guy's popcorn, threw it at him, all while probably yelling at the guy.  The popcorn throw was probably followed by him raring back to do more, had the old guy not shot him.


I think I don't want you deciding what are shootable transgressions.

TOSViolation: Wouldn't need to shoot them, but would definitely be accompanied by an armed guard in case the assholes tried to assault the ushers.


Now  I KNOW I don't


TOSViolation: People would flock to my theater because my staff would actually CARE.


BWAHAHHAHA! Unless you paid a living wage, gave free screenings to employees +1 and provided health insurance along with child care, good luck getting a theater employee to care about patrons
2014-02-07 10:52:20 PM
2 votes:
Txting might be a crime to the englisg language, but it is hardly reason to comment. Especially in the previews.

The judge basically started this guy's time served. If he gets off on a dementia claim six months from now he will have at least served some time.
2014-02-07 10:52:14 PM
2 votes:
from a more detailed article:

"It was after the gunshot and before he knew there was video surveillance, that Reeves made up a story about self defense".
2014-02-07 10:49:49 PM
2 votes:
Who cares about the previews/ads before the feature?
2014-02-07 10:44:34 PM
2 votes:

DubyaHater: Can't wait until this guy is found innocent


Yes, so I can bathe in the bitter tears of all you criminal lovers/cop haters.

The punk shouldn't have messed with a retired cop.  Once a cop, always a cop.  The combat reflexes just kicked in.

You're not allowed to use your phone in the movie theater. Period. He doesn't get an exemption because he was texting his precious snowflake.

I'll bet the defense will find some stuff on that phone that proves the deceased criminal wasn't the innocent angel the lie-beral media is making him out to be.
2014-02-07 10:29:52 PM
2 votes:
dhead #1 attempts to slap around an old man...
dhead #2 responds with gun fire in a movie theater...  what is BEHIND YOUR TARGET dumbass....

/sooo much face palm... soo little time...
2014-02-07 10:29:29 PM
2 votes:
Pretty quick reflexes for a 71 year old man. I think he already made the decision to at least brandish the gun in the younger guy's face to scare him and shot him instead.

I also think the old guy is in the early stages of dementia. Inappropriate anger is one of the signs.
2014-02-07 10:23:49 PM
2 votes:
Two more assholes off the street, America wins.
2014-02-07 10:20:30 PM
2 votes:

sno man: Whatever, Here's the take-away:
The f*cker couldn't even get bail in THE stand your ground state.  As a former cop.


Erm...that does actually seem kind of telling.
2014-02-07 10:16:02 PM
2 votes:

sno man: Whatever, Here's the take-away:
The f*cker couldn't even get bail in THE stand your ground state.  As a former cop.


Victim wasn't wearing a hoodie.
2014-02-07 10:13:53 PM
2 votes:
I thought we knew what happened, a psychopath shot a young father for no reason.
2014-02-08 02:46:38 PM
1 votes:

craigdamage: This was a fight between two assholes. period.
The asshole with the gun was victorious.

He will likely pay for this victory for the rest of his life.

Zimmerman was a moron and Trayvon was an overly aggressive punk teen. period.
The moron is still alive.
Everybody trying to make villains and victims out of these incidents is delusional.

I legally carry a gun. Here are MY rules....


NEVER START SH*T
NEVER ATTEMPT TO FINISH SH*T
WHEN SH*T IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN, GET THE F*CK OUT
DON'T EVER ARGUE WITH ANY STRANGER ABOUT ANYTHING FOR ANY REASON
ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY IS ALWAYS ARMED AND TREAT THEM ACCORDINGLY
NEVER EVER BE AFRAID TO "LOSE FACE" IF IT CAN PREVENT SOME SH*T FROM HAPPENING


Lovin your rules dude....   those are also pretty much my exact rules.   I used to be the guy that wasn't afraid to say something that everyone else in the room wanted to say... someone loudly talking on their cell in a theater...  Hey... could you guys do me a favor and take the call outside...  next thing you know idiots bein idiots and want to step up...     By making a choice to be responsible for my safety, I also make a choice that I CAN NO LONGER HAVE THESE TYPES OF ALTERCATIONS.

So I just leave.  Should I happen to somehow get into a similar situation that was unavoidable...  my gun gives me carte blanche to LEAVE.  I don't care to get into a pissing match where someone might end up dead...   because I"m getting too old to fight, and certainly too young to die... so if someone starts assaulting me, I"m GOING to defend myself, and I'm GOING to be the victor.  If you're fighting a fair fight, you fight wrong.  I fight to win. Period.

So...  as I said, I can no longer afford to have issues and arguements with people.  Should something happen, I apologize and leave.  I don't have to puff my chest...  I don't have to man up.  THEY may not know it, but -I- know someone could end up DEAD... and I don't want that...  SO, I LEAVE.

If they want to prevent my departure or assault me, then I will be forced to equal or trump any force they are employing.  I will not fight someone.  If someone wants to assault me, I am assuming they intend to harm me, and I know I have not assaulted them or given them any reason to assault me, therefore I have no reason to think their actions are reasonable.  I will take the necessary steps to defend myself and my loved ones.


People have no right to go around assaulting people.   This man got himself shot because he assaulted another man.


YOU ALL CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS NO MATTER WHO STARTED THE ARGUMENT OR WHAT WAS SAID, THE YOUNGER MAN -ASSAULTED- THE OLDER MAN, AND THROWING PHONES AND POPCORN AT HIM IS INDEED ASSAULT WHETHER YOU WANT IT TO BE OR NOT.  Assaulting someone because they asked you to be polite is not reasonable.  Why would it be reasonable to assume that the assault was going to stop after the popcorn incident?   What you people fail to recognize is this:

ONE DOES NOT NEED TO BE INJURED OR EVEN BE HIT TO LEGALLY EMPLOY DEADLY FORCE....  especially in the case of disparity of force like this... young and strong vs old and feeble.  The old man does not have to wait until the young man hits him in order to defend himself.  The 1st hit could literally knock him out or kill him... then what?   One does NOT have to be hit or injured to employ deadly force in defense of themselves.


Was it the best move?  The right thing to do?  Perhaps not...    in fact, most likely not... but the fact remains that YOU DO NOT GET TO GO AROUND ASSAULTING PEOPLE, and if you do, and if you put fear into them and they defend themselves, that is legal.


It's up to the jury to decide, based on witness testimony of what was actually said to determine if his self defense was reasonable or not...  but I think you are going to be surprised to find out that a senior citizen is reasonable to fear great bodily harm after they are assaulted by someone much younger and stronger and in which case he may legally defend himself using deadly force.   You might not like it, but that is the way the law is.  The younger man had the means (his strength), he had the intent (he clearly assaulted him) and it was immediately going to happen...
2014-02-08 11:36:03 AM
1 votes:
This seems to be a clear case of:

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2014-02-08 11:18:19 AM
1 votes:

quo vadimus:

I was thinking about it after I posted and I suddenly realized that probably 95% of the people who say that cliche in a serious tone are also Bible-loving. You know, one of the many texts which is supposed to basically be an instruction manual from a supreme being worthy of constant devotion? The book whose word these people are supposed to follow unquestioningly. And whose main points overwhelmingly include "do unto others."

Yet there's this huge correlation between Bible thumpers and those who argue that the threat of instant death is the only way people will be nice to each other. The more left you get, the bigger (not big, but bigger) percentage of non-believers you have, and the bigger percentage of people who think that we should be capable of being nice to each other just because it's the right thing to do.

Strange how that works.


Whats stranger, is that nowhere in the Bible does it actually say that we should be nice to each other. It seems to be a collection of stories mostly about how people are very specifically not nice to each other and yet are somehow "forgiven" for their violent behaviors by merely pledging allegiance to a religion company and promising to go along with that company's rulebook.

The whole Bible is all violence and robbery and bullshiat descriptions of old family trees that seem to just be mistranslated or just made up out of some local Bedouin phonebook.

Thats why this apparently recent development of Calvinistic Fascism is so alarming. There is a very real sense amongst such folks that violence is really the only way to solve the problems. Problems that seem to develop out of a increasingly dense population of poorly-nourished and undereducated humans.
2014-02-08 11:06:30 AM
1 votes:

Deathfrogg: quo vadimus: dantheman195: A armed society is a polite society

You know who else wanted to control an entire society through the threat of violence?

One of the things that bothers me the most about Dan's little cliche' there is the fact that in reality, an armed society is really full of people who are walking on eggshells everywhere they go. They never speak up on real injustices, they rarely if ever confront an asshole because they know that such an individual would very likely be armed. They sure as hell can't stand up and argue with anyone about anything simply because the default behavior in such a society is oriented towards violent reactions to offence, and normal humans who just want to get through a day without being too heavily stressed about the guy in the car next to them on the freeway or the off-duty Cop in the drive-through lane at a burger joint are the ones who always end up losing.



I was thinking about it after I posted and I suddenly realized that probably 95% of the people who say that cliche in a serious tone are also Bible-loving. You know, one of the many texts which is supposed to basically be an instruction manual from a supreme being worthy of constant devotion? The book whose word these people are supposed to follow unquestioningly. And whose main points overwhelmingly include "do unto others."

Yet there's this huge correlation between Bible thumpers and those who argue that the threat of instant death is the only way people will be nice to each other. The more left you get, the bigger (not big, but bigger) percentage of non-believers you have, and the bigger percentage of people who think that we should be capable of being nice to each other just because it's the right thing to do.

Strange how that works.
2014-02-08 10:45:47 AM
1 votes:

badhatharry: mutterfark: Looks to me exactly the same as Zimmerman. Man with a gun feels he has the right to act like judge, jury and executioner because he has a gun and the other person doesn't. The younger man may or may not have been inconsiderate(even an asshole), but he did not initiate this incident. The old man with the gun did. And leaving and coming back to the man no longer texting wasn't good enough to satisfy the old man with the gun. Since the article states that the old man with a gun had it in his pocket, there was no way for the younger man(asshole?) to know he should just shut up and apologize. Old man with the gun just murdered someone for being inconsiderate and possibly an asshole. If that's the bar for being allowed to kill a person, then I need to invest in mortuary stocks.
I hope the old man with the gun goes to jail for the rest of his life.

/all IMHO
//i just liked saying 'old man with the gun'
///please don't shoot me just because i'm an asshole

Tayvon Martin wasn't throwing skittles at Zimmerman.


And the young man wasn't throwing popcorn until the incident was started by Reeves. Trayvon also did not start the incident that resulted in his death by throwing Skittles at the Z-man. My only point was that in both cases it was the men with guns who both started the problem and continued when it was clear there was no need. In both cases the un-armed "aggressor" is dead.

/if everyone carried a gun would we be more polite, or just more bloodstained?
2014-02-08 10:39:13 AM
1 votes:

quo vadimus: dantheman195: A armed society is a polite society

You know who else wanted to control an entire society through the threat of violence?


One of the things that bothers me the most about Dan's little cliche' there is the fact that in reality, an armed society is really full of people who are walking on eggshells everywhere they go. They never speak up on real injustices, they rarely if ever confront an asshole because they know that such an individual would very likely be armed. They sure as hell can't stand up and argue with anyone about anything simply because the default behavior in such a society is oriented towards violent reactions to offence, and normal humans who just want to get through a day without being too heavily stressed about the guy in the car next to them on the freeway or the off-duty Cop in the drive-through lane at a burger joint are the ones who always end up losing.

We're actually legalizing murder in some States, and still locking people up for extended prison sentences for smoking marijuana, often in those same States.

Which is the worst offense?
2014-02-08 10:03:30 AM
1 votes:

dantheman195: A armed society is a polite society


You know who else wanted to control an entire society through the threat of violence?
2014-02-08 09:27:28 AM
1 votes:
Looks to me exactly the same as Zimmerman. Man with a gun feels he has the right to act like judge, jury and executioner because he has a gun and the other person doesn't. The younger man may or may not have been inconsiderate(even an asshole), but he did not initiate this incident. The old man with the gun did. And leaving and coming back to the man no longer texting wasn't good enough to satisfy the old man with the gun. Since the article states that the old man with a gun had it in his pocket, there was no way for the younger man(asshole?) to know he should just shut up and apologize. Old man with the gun just murdered someone for being inconsiderate and possibly an asshole. If that's the bar for being allowed to kill a person, then I need to invest in mortuary stocks.
I hope the old man with the gun goes to jail for the rest of his life.

/all IMHO
//i just liked saying 'old man with the gun'
///please don't shoot me just because i'm an asshole
2014-02-08 08:57:47 AM
1 votes:
I'm glad they had video.

This old fark needs to go down for what he did. If nothing else, he could have moved to the million other empty seats in the theater.
2014-02-08 08:41:30 AM
1 votes:
The theater looks empty. If the guy in front of you is annoying, change seats. Is that so hard?
2014-02-08 01:41:33 AM
1 votes:

Kelwen: Revek: Kelwen: Revek: Kelwen: Law enforcement is the ultimate alpha male occupation. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.

Lame and late to the dance.  Thanks for playing

YOU THINK THIS IS A GAME!!!

<blink damn you>Yup and you're not doing that well.</blink damn you>

Judging posts on fark is the ultimate alpha male pastime.It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


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2014-02-08 01:34:23 AM
1 votes:

Confabulat: There were like 100 empty seats. I'd have been pissed at anyone who sat by me in that theater.


Um THIS. The popular media is totally overlooking this aspect.
2014-02-08 01:11:40 AM
1 votes:

LesserEvil: No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.


Probably?
2014-02-08 12:50:41 AM
1 votes:
If the victim was the one texting then the shooter should be given a medal.  If the shooter was the one texting then he should be castrated and then have his fingers pulled off one-by-one, and after that his nuts gnawed off by beavers with dull teeth, and then burned alive.
2014-02-08 12:09:03 AM
1 votes:

Kelwen: Law enforcement is the ultimate alpha male occupation. It's for the toughest and strongest, both physically and mentally. These men live by a warrior's code, something you probably cannot begin to understand.


Lame and late to the dance.  Thanks for playing
2014-02-08 12:02:53 AM
1 votes:
Carrying a gun turns you into God.
Execute whomever displeases you, and trust that your lawyer can put a 'tard on the jury to set you free.
God bless America.
2014-02-07 11:56:48 PM
1 votes:

MFAWG: What part of 'Shall not be infringed' do you not understand, Obamabot?


What part of "well-regulated militia" don't you understand. The founding fathers did not envision Cletus with an M16.
2014-02-07 11:49:42 PM
1 votes:
"There are people in this world who go about demanding to be killed. You must have noticed them. They quarrel in gambling games. They jump out of their automobiles in a rage. They humiliate and bully people whose capabilities they do not know. These are people who wander through the world shouting, "kill me". And there's always someone ready to oblige to them."

--Don Vito Corleone
2014-02-07 11:29:58 PM
1 votes:
Another case of when two idiots collide
2014-02-07 11:23:27 PM
1 votes:

TOSViolation: What we need is for idiot kids to have a FEAR of being assholes.  Right now, they think they're kids so there are no real consequences.  That's pretty LOLtastic to suggest talking to them.


See, this is why you're part of the problem. Young people don't have the life experience to make that call; these 'old guys', ostensibly, do. That's why it's wrong. You're like a guy looking at a flat tire and saying 'man, we need to get softer wheels!'
2014-02-07 11:10:28 PM
1 votes:
i1.ytimg.com
2014-02-07 11:08:26 PM
1 votes:
This, and the guy who shot the kids in the SUV for playing loud music at a gas station.  I'm thinking Anger Management needs to be considered as a qualifier to get a gun permit.
2014-02-07 11:07:29 PM
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TOSViolation: Dougie AXP: TOSViolation: LesserEvil: AirForceVet: Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.

The old guy overreacted and took a man's life over getting pissed off and saying something about the victim using his cell phone before the movie started.

No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.

My take-away is the old guy saying "I'm 71 years old..." - he was basically admitting that he didn't care enough to be concerned that he was going to potentially take a life when he drew his gun.

The guy will never be a texting asshole in a theater again, so there's that.

What this society lacks is a whole lot of, "Oops!  You're right.  I farked up.  Sorry."

The asshole probably DID deserve to be shot, based on the video.  If you look closely, he lunged over the seat, grabbed the guy's popcorn, threw it at him, all while probably yelling at the guy.  The popcorn throw was probably followed by him raring back to do more, had the old guy not shot him.

We'll never know, but the entire incident could have been avoided if the asshole had just had a little bit of respect for other people around him and just apologized.  "I'm sorry.  I was just letting the babysitter know the movie was starting.  Phone is off and headed into my pocket."

Or you know because it was the previews and not the actual movie the old man could just nutted up and ignored it.

fark you.  The previews are the BEST PART.

They come on LONG after the "turn off your farking cell phones or GTFO" message plays repeatedly.

If I owned a theater, I'm pretty sure I could charge a lot more per ticket, sell drinks and popcorn f ...


Newsflash; that message to turn off cell phones ISN'T A GOD DAMN LAW. NOT KILLING PEOPLE IS.

Obviously the manager of the theater told the old coot "its the farking previews, there 25 farking minutes of them, it's not a big deal"

as for your other statements, yes you could do all of that and you would make a nice chunk of change. Ever been to the theaters that are adult only and offer beer and food? they make bank because people are willing to pay for separation.

ALL of that being said, none of what happened in that theater warrants killing someone. After popcorn throw, old fart should have gone back to the manager, insisted texting dick be thrown out for "assaulting" him and there ya go, tension averted.

OR HEY, that off duty sheriff who was sitting a few rows back could have intervened the first time and told them to calm down
2014-02-07 11:03:02 PM
1 votes:
The whole thing could've been avoided if one of them just moved seats
/It's not like place was crowded
2014-02-07 10:58:30 PM
1 votes:
fark you.  The previews are the BEST PART.

They come on LONG after the "turn off your farking cell phones or GTFO" message plays repeatedly.

If I owned a theater, I'm pretty sure I could charge a lot more per ticket, sell drinks and popcorn f ...


Previews are crap.  I paid to see a movie.  Instead after paying I have to watch their swill.  Its like they get paid twice.  Once when I pay and then I have to watch commercials.   movie previews are usually the best parts from a goats ass and that ain't much.
2014-02-07 10:50:09 PM
1 votes:

Dougie AXP: TOSViolation: LesserEvil: AirForceVet: Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.

The old guy overreacted and took a man's life over getting pissed off and saying something about the victim using his cell phone before the movie started.

No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.

My take-away is the old guy saying "I'm 71 years old..." - he was basically admitting that he didn't care enough to be concerned that he was going to potentially take a life when he drew his gun.

The guy will never be a texting asshole in a theater again, so there's that.

What this society lacks is a whole lot of, "Oops!  You're right.  I farked up.  Sorry."

The asshole probably DID deserve to be shot, based on the video.  If you look closely, he lunged over the seat, grabbed the guy's popcorn, threw it at him, all while probably yelling at the guy.  The popcorn throw was probably followed by him raring back to do more, had the old guy not shot him.

We'll never know, but the entire incident could have been avoided if the asshole had just had a little bit of respect for other people around him and just apologized.  "I'm sorry.  I was just letting the babysitter know the movie was starting.  Phone is off and headed into my pocket."

Or you know because it was the previews and not the actual movie the old man could just nutted up and ignored it.


fark you.  The previews are the BEST PART.

They come on LONG after the "turn off your farking cell phones or GTFO" message plays repeatedly.

If I owned a theater, I'm pretty sure I could charge a lot more per ticket, sell drinks and popcorn for much less ($5 for a drink and popcorn of reasonable size e.g. what you get at Target's snack bar), and have a VERY strict behavior policy.  I'd have assholes actively escorted out of the theater and banned for life if they become a repeat annoyance.  People would flock to my theater because my staff would actually CARE.
2014-02-07 10:45:57 PM
1 votes:

LesserEvil: AirForceVet: Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.

The old guy overreacted and took a man's life over getting pissed off and saying something about the victim using his cell phone before the movie started.

No winners here, but it probably shouldn't have cost the idiot cell phone user his life. Basically a road rage incident, translated into the theater. Two morons escalating their anger over something simple stupid small.

My take-away is the old guy saying "I'm 71 years old..." - he was basically admitting that he didn't care enough to be concerned that he was going to potentially take a life when he drew his gun.


Old ex-cop with a beef about cell phones users in general decided to be a asshole to a guy using his cellphone before the movie started.  Guy rightly tells the old farker to go take his geritol and stfu.  Old man decides to commit premeditated murder by leaving to get a gun and returns to commit the crime first by winding up the guy as only a psychopath can.  Old fart utterly shocked cops arrest him even after he told them he was a retired cop.  Thinking in my day we would have just threw a gun down and ignored the witnesses.  Not knowing that it was all on video.  I'm sure he has a problem with cameras to.  fark him, convict him, and sue him in court for some compensation for that kid he left without a father.  May he rot in jail getting that personal attention only a ex cop can command.
2014-02-07 10:21:53 PM
1 votes:

jayessell: Why Has no one said "early onset alsheimers"?
Obviously some sort of cognitive dysfunction.
That, and a guy used to bossing people around, but who now can't.


Because " Literally Raging Asshole" covers it so much better?
2014-02-07 10:20:24 PM
1 votes:
Why Has no one said "early onset alsheimers"?
Obviously some sort of cognitive dysfunction.
That, and a guy used to bossing people around, but who now can't.
2014-02-07 09:09:33 PM
1 votes:
Looks like the victim tossed a popcorn bag at the old man who then shot the victim.

If defending yourself with a gun against somebody throwing popcorn is self defense, that means any little kid in movie theaters is a valid target.

/This ex-cop is no Zimmerman.
2014-02-07 09:08:06 PM
1 votes:
I can't ascertain anything useful from that video.
2014-02-07 08:29:12 PM
1 votes:
They have cameras inside movie theaters now? Well, so much for sneaking a beej in the back row.
 
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