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2014-02-07 04:57:51 PM  
fark me, am I getting into an argument with someone who thinks the social contract is a literal legal document? It's 5:00 on a Friday, I've said my peace, I have shiat to do.
 
2014-02-07 04:58:39 PM  

Bloody William: Again, no.


Again, yes. To wit:

Bloody William: the Civil Rights Act of 1964

 
2014-02-07 05:00:00 PM  

Bloody William: am I getting into an argument with someone who thinks the social contract is a literal legal document?


No, you are trying to tell me that it's just something that you should do because "society" and if you don't you're going to face official sanction.
 
2014-02-07 05:00:37 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: jso2897: He will only be forced to serve those he has no reasonable, lawful cause to refuse.

WHY THE FARK WOULD YOU WANT TO BE SERVED BY THIS ASSHOLE?


Why the Fark do you keep asking this question over and over when it's already been answered?  Are you simply dishonest?  Or is your memory that bad?
 
2014-02-07 05:00:40 PM  

sendtodave: scottydoesntknow: sendtodave: scottydoesntknow: Mattyb710: Thank you for pasting something everyone in this thread already knows. Let me spell it out a little more, since you don't seem to get what I'm saying. I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.


I get exactly what you're saying.

Thankfully your opinion, and the law, disagree entirely.

...

"I don't believe that there should be discrimination laws."
"Well, the law disagrees with you!"

wat

Says the dumbfark who thinks China actually has something to do with this conversation.

Racism is racism, right?


That has jack shiat to do with the topic at hand.

China is its own country with its own laws. And why the fark do you want to be like China?!

Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to vote, drive, or be out in public unescorted by a man. Should we be more like them?

Nigeria allows you to throw gay people in jail (and even execute) simply for the crime of being gay. Should we be more like Nigeria?

That's how stupid you sound right now.
 
2014-02-07 05:00:51 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: Again, no.

Again, yes. To wit:

Bloody William: the Civil Rights Act of 1964


The "social contract" is as real as "rights."

He has every right to associate or not associate with whom he chooses.

And society has the ability to limit that right with laws.

And both are fictions.
 
2014-02-07 05:01:04 PM  
Guy looks just the the racist scumbag Stacy Keach plays in American History X.

imageshack.com
 
2014-02-07 05:02:47 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: QU!RK1019: An answer? To "Who wrote the social contract?" You might as well have asked "Who wrote the book of love?"

So it's more of an arbitrary set of rules conceived on feelings and enforced by law.


I've heard grade schoolers demonstrate a more profound understanding of the theory of the social contract than that.
 
2014-02-07 05:02:52 PM  

Baloo Uriza: sovietski: I am also ok with this location being the site of the Oklahoma FARK party. I can bring my friend, who's gay, and his brother, who walks with cane (car accident) and has long hair!!

I could dress like a "freak" and wear my cubicle mate's College Democrats button on my shirt.

I'll bring my fursuit and I wouldn't mind if someone put a bear pride shirt on it.


Let's do it. I have some rainbow toe socks that I can wear too.

I'm debating "goth freak" or "disco freak."

/decisions decisions
 
2014-02-07 05:03:17 PM  

scottydoesntknow: That has jack shiat to do with the topic at hand.

China is its own country with its own laws. And why the fark do you want to be like China?!

Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to vote, drive, or be out in public unescorted by a man. Should we be more like them?

Nigeria allows you to throw gay people in jail (and even execute) simply for the crime of being gay. Should we be more like Nigeria?

That's how stupid you sound right now.


More like "Do we expect them to be more like us?"

And, on a smaller scale, do we expect small town dimwits to be like multicultural, liberal coastal dwellers?
 
2014-02-07 05:03:26 PM  

Bane of Broone: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: PanicMan: Mattyb710: I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Discrimination damages the health and safety of a community.  The effects may not be immediate, but they can be severe, even lethal.

So does being an asshole, but how do you outlaw that?

You can't legislate morality.


But you can penalize bigots for discrimination.

Yep, you absolutely can. It's called "not patronizing their business". In other words, don't go there and don't give them your money. You even have the option of not helping them out, should they ever wind up in a position of need.


If I live in that town he's already TAKING my money every time the street lights on that block light a path to his restaurant's door. Every time the police come to his restaurant to respond to a call about a disorderly patron. Every time he dumps his greasy trap into the groundwater supply...

No one is demanding that he stay in business and serve cripples. He's more than welcome to pack his shiat up and take it to Sochi or some other place where those veiws are tolerated by the people who pay for the lights on his street.

If the people who pay for lights on his street don't patronize his business, his business will cease to exist and the problem is solved. It's not as if it's located in the middle of San Francisco with all the customers commuting in from backward redneck places.


Look I think he sounds like a real piece if shiat too, but that's his right. It's only a problem if he starts instigating harm to others.

No it's not. Stop ignoring laws because of your personal beliefs.


I'm not ignoring laws, I just refuse to give a shiat and get bent out of shape about this guy. Go there and if he refuses to serve you illegally then you can make a stink about it but he's entitled to his views and making him take down the sign won't change his attitude. This guy is just the tip of the iceberg, his sign is a symptom o the attitude of a far larger group of people and that isn't going to change overnight.
 
2014-02-07 05:03:39 PM  
Yes, Oklahoma can be like this...but Oklahoma City can be a damn great place to party.

Can find a hot date in 2 seconds flat in a 7/11.


I had the best time there when I was 21.
Not the best for long-term relationships...at least from all the ones I've known about there.

So if your priorities are corrupt and short term...grand place to be.  Like Vegas...without the flashing lights.
 
2014-02-07 05:04:18 PM  

poonesfarm: Guy looks just the the racist scumbag Stacy Keach plays in American History X.

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Wow.

Also like my granddad.
 
2014-02-07 05:04:38 PM  
Goddamn the butthurt is unbelievable. He's kept open a restaurant for that long, not too shabby. As a lifelong Oklahoman, I don't care if the rest of this country/world thinks we all have the same way of thinking. Most do, some don't.
 
2014-02-07 05:05:17 PM  

Baloo Uriza: sovietski: Lolwut? How did I miss this?

They were in front of the Rib Crib across from the Electric Circus, pretty much caused RC to close for the night to avoid dealing with 'em.  Which is a bummer because RC was doing bang-up business before they showed up.


Mmmm Rib Crib.

My town needs a Hideaway pizza. We have Marcos, which is also delicious.

/and Coney Islander
 
2014-02-07 05:05:19 PM  

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: am I getting into an argument with someone who thinks the social contract is a literal legal document?

No, you are trying to tell me that it's just something that you should do because "society" and if you don't you're going to face official sanction.


No. It is the simple paradigm that if you wish to enjoy society's privileges, you must obey society's rules.
You are free to reject it, and abjure society's protections.
In my experience, though, those who whine the most about how society constrains their "liberties" are usually those least capable of surviving without society to care for them.
 
2014-02-07 05:05:25 PM  

Contrabulous Flabtraption: Eh, cripples are a hassle with all the ramps and cripply paraphernalia. The deaf are assholes though. F*ck the deaf.


That little bit of sarcasmoliciousness fractured my LOL-bone.
 
2014-02-07 05:05:30 PM  

James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: PanicMan: Mattyb710: I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Discrimination damages the health and safety of a community.  The effects may not be immediate, but they can be severe, even lethal.

So does being an asshole, but how do you outlaw that?

You can't legislate morality.


But you can penalize bigots for discrimination.

Yep, you absolutely can. It's called "not patronizing their business". In other words, don't go there and don't give them your money. You even have the option of not helping them out, should they ever wind up in a position of need.


If I live in that town he's already TAKING my money every time the street lights on that block light a path to his restaurant's door. Every time the police come to his restaurant to respond to a call about a disorderly patron. Every time he dumps his greasy trap into the groundwater supply...

No one is demanding that he stay in business and serve cripples. He's more than welcome to pack his shiat up and take it to Sochi or some other place where those veiws are tolerated by the people who pay for the lights on his street.

If the people who pay for lights on his street don't patronize his business, his business will cease to exist and the problem is solved. It's not as if it's located in the middle of San Francisco with all the customers commuting in from backward redneck places.


Look I think he sounds like a real piece if shiat too, but that's his right. It's only a problem if he starts instigating harm to others.

No it's not. Stop ignoring laws because of your personal beliefs.

I'm not ignoring laws, I just refuse to give a shiat and get bent out of shape about this guy. Go there and if he refuses to serve you illegally then you can make a stink about it but he's entitled to his views and making ...


It's a symptom of a larger problem and you refuse to care. Got it.
 
2014-02-07 05:06:37 PM  

Bane of Broone: MBooda: suburbanguy: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: And people wonder why the South is ridiculed.


When did Oklahoma become part of "the South"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

From that article:
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I'm pretty sure the guy in the article would enjoy living in the past as well.

You do realize that the Confederacy didn't annex any states after the Civil War?

You cling to your definition of "the South", Kentucky, Times change and Oklahoma is now a southern state.

Call it that all you want, it's still a Western state.

[img.fark.net image 350x230]

No, it's not.

South, West, what the fark do you guys care?  Anything south or west of the Christie end of the GW Bridge is Banjo Country as far as you're concerned.  Admit it.

[dialectblog.com image 800x495]

You couldn't use a map from the last Presidential election?


Here ya go:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-07 05:07:10 PM  

Virtuoso80: Meh, if a restaurant want's to deliberately limit it's customer base, I say let them. Maybe we need laws for special circumstances (Ex. You have to let someone use your phone in case of an emergency), but otherwise I'm OK with racist business owners running racist businesses, just don't expect me to use their services.


Exactly, but all people want to do is stoop to his level and throw it back at other people who don't have anything to do with it for some reason and start labeling the guy as part of groups they dislike. Liberals, democrats and republicans, whatever the hell you are -you all do this and that's why no one wants to be civil and compromise on shiat, because all you do is trash the other group, so no f-ing way will they compromise or listen to what your side wants.
 
2014-02-07 05:07:28 PM  

sendtodave: scottydoesntknow: That has jack shiat to do with the topic at hand.

China is its own country with its own laws. And why the fark do you want to be like China?!

Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to vote, drive, or be out in public unescorted by a man. Should we be more like them?

Nigeria allows you to throw gay people in jail (and even execute) simply for the crime of being gay. Should we be more like Nigeria?

That's how stupid you sound right now.

More like "Do we expect them to be more like us?"

And, on a smaller scale, do we expect small town dimwits to be like multicultural, liberal coastal dwellers?


We would like them to be more like us, but at the end of the day, they are their own sovereign nation with their own laws.

And we expect small-town dimwits to follow federal law. It has jack-shiat to do with "multicultural, liberal coastal dwellers".
 
2014-02-07 05:09:07 PM  

sendtodave: scottydoesntknow: That has jack shiat to do with the topic at hand.

China is its own country with its own laws. And why the fark do you want to be like China?!

Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to vote, drive, or be out in public unescorted by a man. Should we be more like them?

Nigeria allows you to throw gay people in jail (and even execute) simply for the crime of being gay. Should we be more like Nigeria?

That's how stupid you sound right now.

More like "Do we expect them to be more like us?"

And, on a smaller scale, do we expect small town dimwits to be like multicultural, liberal coastal dwellers?


I'm probably not going to get an answer to this.

I suspect the answer, in both cases, is "yes."  We expect China to pollute less and allow more fredoms.  We expect Russia to not pass laws against homosexuals.

We expect the world to not only think and be like Americans, but to think and be like liberal Americans, because even Americans like this guy are backwards.

Liberals are the end of history, and everyone else has to catch up.
 
2014-02-07 05:09:20 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I also like how the dude in the wheelchair was fine with the guy's views until he got discriminated against.


Unfortunately that is how most people work.
 
2014-02-07 05:10:06 PM  

FlashHarry: how the fark is this thread nearly 400 comments long? is there actually some debate as to whether or not this racist piece of filth has the right to deny service to people based on their skin color or sexual orientation?


Yes, sadly, there is.  Mostly cloaked in "states rights," err, I mean, "private property" guise.
 
2014-02-07 05:10:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: sendtodave: scottydoesntknow: That has jack shiat to do with the topic at hand.

China is its own country with its own laws. And why the fark do you want to be like China?!

Saudi Arabia doesn't allow women to vote, drive, or be out in public unescorted by a man. Should we be more like them?

Nigeria allows you to throw gay people in jail (and even execute) simply for the crime of being gay. Should we be more like Nigeria?

That's how stupid you sound right now.

More like "Do we expect them to be more like us?"

And, on a smaller scale, do we expect small town dimwits to be like multicultural, liberal coastal dwellers?

We would like them to be more like us, but at the end of the day, they are their own sovereign nation with their own laws.

And we expect small-town dimwits to follow federal law. It has jack-shiat to do with "multicultural, liberal coastal dwellers".


Scratch that other post, thanks for the answer.

Again, he should follow our law.

Going on and on about what a backwards piece of shiat he is, how he should die, blah blah,  for being a racist is kinda silly.
 
2014-02-07 05:10:46 PM  
Free advertising, I guess.

I'm wondering how (assuming he does actually abide by these stupid restrictions, which I doubt) he determines the employment status and sexual orientation of customers?

Survey passed out to people at the door or show of hands?

And who reads the survey results to him or counts the people holding up their hands?
 
2014-02-07 05:11:38 PM  

MBooda: suburbanguy: MBooda:

South, West, what the fark do you guys care?  Anything south or west of the Christie end of the GW Bridge is Banjo Country as far as you're concerned.  Admit it.

Um, you just put me (NE OH) in there, so...no.

I got news for you.  Those folks about seventy, eighty miles away from you, in New York?  They think you play the banjo, have twelve toes and voted for Kasich.


Seeing as how you've been to NE Ohio and western NY, I know you're being facetious.  NE Ohio and Columbus are both rather progressive, despite the rest of the state.  Western NY on the other hand...

/Now, if you were talking about eastern NY...
 
2014-02-07 05:11:45 PM  

QU!RK1019: Dancin_In_Anson: Well, I for one do want to go where I am not welcome.

Your presence here proves otherwise.


So you are saying he is wanted here?
 
Ant
2014-02-07 05:12:14 PM  

Mattyb710: No matter how hard you try you can not legislate the racism out of ignorant people.
Privately owned businesses should most definitely get to choose who their clientele is. If racist assholes want to be racist assholes let them. Why the fark would someone want to eat at a restaurant owned by someone that hates them and is being forced to serve them?
It's not an all or nothing deal either, like some in this thread make it out to be.
Public places, and transportation and other places like that should serve anyone and everyone, including 100% handicap access.
The most the law should be involved is if the place is unsafe, making people sick, or things along those lines.


So if the 4 major cell carriers suddenly decide they don't want to provide service to black people, and if enough non-black customers continue to give their business to the carriers, that would be perfectly OK?
 
2014-02-07 05:13:42 PM  

7th Son of a 7th Son: Goddamn the butthurt is unbelievable. He's kept open a restaurant for that long, not too shabby. As a lifelong Oklahoman, I don't care if the rest of this country/world thinks we all have the same way of thinking. Most do, some don't.


I'm unclear as to what conclusion you are coming to.  Bigotry is ok if you're successful?
 
2014-02-07 05:13:42 PM  

sendtodave: Liberals are the end of history, and everyone else has to catch up.


So if you can't be right, you are going to be bitter and petulant, and whine about "liberals"?
I had really thought better of you up until now.
That's just childish.
 
2014-02-07 05:15:00 PM  

JK47: Dancin_In_Anson:

I suppose so. Good to see that we are about to spend a bunch of money trying to change an asshole in Enid Oklahoma that you and I never knew existed before today.


So when you discover one roach in your home you just let it be, until such a time as there are many roaches?  I like your lackadaisical approach to problem solving.


very similar to his posting style on fark.  Weak, simple yet troublesome.
 
2014-02-07 05:16:01 PM  

Bane of Broone: James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: PanicMan: Mattyb710: I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Discrimination damages the health and safety of a community.  The effects may not be immediate, but they can be severe, even lethal.

So does being an asshole, but how do you outlaw that?

You can't legislate morality.


But you can penalize bigots for discrimination.

Yep, you absolutely can. It's called "not patronizing their business". In other words, don't go there and don't give them your money. You even have the option of not helping them out, should they ever wind up in a position of need.


If I live in that town he's already TAKING my money every time the street lights on that block light a path to his restaurant's door. Every time the police come to his restaurant to respond to a call about a disorderly patron. Every time he dumps his greasy trap into the groundwater supply...

No one is demanding that he stay in business and serve cripples. He's more than welcome to pack his shiat up and take it to Sochi or some other place where those veiws are tolerated by the people who pay for the lights on his street.

If the people who pay for lights on his street don't patronize his business, his business will cease to exist and the problem is solved. It's not as if it's located in the middle of San Francisco with all the customers commuting in from backward redneck places.


Look I think he sounds like a real piece if shiat too, but that's his right. It's only a problem if he starts instigating harm to others.

No it's not. Stop ignoring laws because of your personal beliefs.

I'm not ignoring laws, I just refuse to give a shiat and get bent out of shape about this guy. Go there and if he refuses to serve you illegally then you can make a stink about it but he's entitled to his views and making ...

It's a symptom of a larger problem and you refuse to care. Got it.


It's something that has nothing to do with me and doesn't affect me. Nobody will change that guy's mind, any more than someone will turn you into a racist right winger. He's old, he'll die and be replace by younger folks who will likely have different views.

In the meantime this outrage will probably generate enough publicity that the hoards of like minded bigots will pour out of the woodwork to support him.

He could take down his sign and not openly refuse business to anyone, but what do you honestly think will happen? He'll still have the same sort of folks going there that have gone there for years. The place will still be full of racist homophobic hicks. It's a waste of time, you can't force someone to think a certain way, you have to guide them, ideally from a young age.
 
2014-02-07 05:16:30 PM  

GBB: Strangely, droids are OK with him.

 
2014-02-07 05:17:19 PM  

jso2897: sendtodave: Liberals are the end of history, and everyone else has to catch up.

So if you can't be right, you are going to be bitter and petulant, and whine about "liberals"?
I had really thought better of you up until now.
That's just childish.


Hey, don't get me wrong.

honestly, I'm a coastal dwelling, smug sneering liberal, too.  Card carrying.

Just one that lived in China for a while.

You know how we are supposed to feel about China.

Eh, tired of judgmentality, I guess.
 
2014-02-07 05:18:39 PM  
Meh.....he's pretty open-minded compared to some of the people I've encountered (and work with) in SW Virginia.
 
2014-02-07 05:19:22 PM  
Based on one comment on this thread that really offended me,
I'm going to assume everyone on here is just like that responder and exit the thread forever.

/bye
 
2014-02-07 05:19:46 PM  

James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: PanicMan: Mattyb710: I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Discrimination damages the health and safety of a community.  The effects may not be immediate, but they can be severe, even lethal.

So does being an asshole, but how do you outlaw that?

You can't legislate morality.


But you can penalize bigots for discrimination.

Yep, you absolutely can. It's called "not patronizing their business". In other words, don't go there and don't give them your money. You even have the option of not helping them out, should they ever wind up in a position of need.


If I live in that town he's already TAKING my money every time the street lights on that block light a path to his restaurant's door. Every time the police come to his restaurant to respond to a call about a disorderly patron. Every time he dumps his greasy trap into the groundwater supply...

No one is demanding that he stay in business and serve cripples. He's more than welcome to pack his shiat up and take it to Sochi or some other place where those veiws are tolerated by the people who pay for the lights on his street.

If the people who pay for lights on his street don't patronize his business, his business will cease to exist and the problem is solved. It's not as if it's located in the middle of San Francisco with all the customers commuting in from backward redneck places.


Look I think he sounds like a real piece if shiat too, but that's his right. It's only a problem if he starts instigating harm to others.

No it's not. Stop ignoring laws because of your personal beliefs.

I'm not ignoring laws, I just refuse to give a shiat and get bent out of shape about this guy. Go there and if he refuses to serve you illegally then you can make a stink about it but he's en ...


Something not affecting you how you determine whether to care or not. That's just sad.
 
2014-02-07 05:20:05 PM  

sendtodave: Scratch that other post, thanks for the answer.


Of course. I try to answer everybody (I went to lunch when you posted).

Again, he should follow our law.

Yes. Wherever you are, you follow the laws of that country. I wouldn't expect him to follow that law if he were in China, anymore than I would expect an Asian guy to follow a law in China while living here.

Going on and on about what a backwards piece of shiat he is, how he should die, blah blah, for being a racist is kinda silly.

Sure I'll agree with you on that. But it's the internet, hyperbole and exaggeration are par for the course. Granted I would not shed a single tear if this guy dropped dead of a heart-attack tomorrow. It would just be one less racist on this earth.
 
2014-02-07 05:20:11 PM  

TechnicolorYawn: Based on one comment on this thread that really offended me,
I'm going to assume everyone on here is just like that responder and exit the thread forever.

/bye


Way to stereotype!
 
2014-02-07 05:20:26 PM  

El_Perro: Dancin_In_Anson: jso2897: He will only be forced to serve those he has no reasonable, lawful cause to refuse.

WHY THE FARK WOULD YOU WANT TO BE SERVED BY THIS ASSHOLE?

Because if this asshole has the right to refuse serve me based on my race, ethnicity, disability, etc., then any asshole has the right to refuse to serve me based on my race, ethnicity, disability, etc.  And if any asshole has the right to do so, then EVERY business owner in a given area has the right to do so.  That would leave members of the discriminated-against class with few/no options for food, gas, etc. (e.g., those things classified as "public accomodations") when travelling to (or through) areas where all/most business owners discriminated.  That, in turn, effectively limits the ability of the discriminated-against class to travel to or through such areas.

This is not some sort of baseless slippery slope argument - it is the history of the Civil Rights Act.  Are people this f*cking ignorant of American history?


Another Farker in another thread on this general topic mentioned The Negro Motorist Green Book.  I think it was one of the lesbian wedding cake threads.
 
2014-02-07 05:21:42 PM  

scottydoesntknow: sendtodave: Scratch that other post, thanks for the answer.

Of course. I try to answer everybody (I went to lunch when you posted).

Again, he should follow our law.

Yes. Wherever you are, you follow the laws of that country. I wouldn't expect him to follow that law if he were in China, anymore than I would expect an Asian guy to follow a law in China while living here.

Going on and on about what a backwards piece of shiat he is, how he should die, blah blah, for being a racist is kinda silly.

Sure I'll agree with you on that. But it's the internet, hyperbole and exaggeration are par for the course. Granted I would not shed a single tear if this guy dropped dead of a heart-attack tomorrow. It would just be one less racist on this earth.


The world would be better without racists.

Pretty empty, too.

/still judging...
 
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2014-02-07 05:21:50 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-07 05:22:41 PM  
Coming out of Oklahoma, that's sort of a "Dog bites Man" story, isn't it?
 
2014-02-07 05:26:17 PM  

Bane of Broone: James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: PanicMan: Mattyb710: I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Discrimination damages the health and safety of a community.  The effects may not be immediate, but they can be severe, even lethal.

So does being an asshole, but how do you outlaw that?

You can't legislate morality.


But you can penalize bigots for discrimination.

Yep, you absolutely can. It's called "not patronizing their business". In other words, don't go there and don't give them your money. You even have the option of not helping them out, should they ever wind up in a position of need.


If I live in that town he's already TAKING my money every time the street lights on that block light a path to his restaurant's door. Every time the police come to his restaurant to respond to a call about a disorderly patron. Every time he dumps his greasy trap into the groundwater supply...

No one is demanding that he stay in business and serve cripples. He's more than welcome to pack his shiat up and take it to Sochi or some other place where those veiws are tolerated by the people who pay for the lights on his street.

If the people who pay for lights on his street don't patronize his business, his business will cease to exist and the problem is solved. It's not as if it's located in the middle of San Francisco with all the customers commuting in from backward redneck places.


Look I think he sounds like a real piece if shiat too, but that's his right. It's only a problem if he starts instigating harm to others.

No it's not. Stop ignoring laws because of your personal beliefs.

I'm not ignoring laws, I just refuse to give a shiat and get bent out of shape about this guy. Go there and if he refuses to serve you illegally then you can make a stink about it but he's en ...

Something not affecting you how you determine whether to care or not. That's just sad.


So let's say I "care" and I get all bent out of shape about what some asshole is doing 3000 miles away from me is doing, then what? What exactly is that going to accomplish? Should I forget everything and dedicate my life to being pissed off about every one of the millions of assholes out there? What do you propose I do about it exactly? I've got my own life to run, my own problems to deal with, my own friends and family, my own local businesses, there's a whole vast forest and I'm not going to obsess over a single tree thousands of miles away.

If you are so passionate about it, go talk to the guy personally. How do you enjoy life? If it's not ok to tune out a single bad thing happening anywhere you must be miserable and angry every second of the day.
 
2014-02-07 05:26:58 PM  
I wonder how he feels about veterans. Particularly disabled ones.

Such a fine example of how Jesus treats people.
 
2014-02-07 05:27:15 PM  
Are there any queers in the restaurant tonight?
Get them up against the wall.
Now there's one at that table, he don't look right to me,
Get him up against the wall.
And that one looks Jewish -- and that one's a coon!
Who the hell let this riffraff into the room?
There's one smoking a joint, and another with spots!
If I had my way, I'd have all of you shot!
 
2014-02-07 05:29:38 PM  

kortex: Awesome. Every business should be able to cater only to those they want to. No issues here.


It's times like this I wish we had some kind of technology to send people into parallel universes like the Star Trek "Mirror universe."  It would be a useful teaching method to be able to toss people who have no problem with discrimination into a parallel universe much like our own, except that there they are a member of the group getting discriminated against.

Or maybe just a medical procedure where we turn them black and gay and then release them to live out the rest of their lives here in our universe.  That might be easier.

Possibly toss in a sex-change operation.
 
2014-02-07 05:30:24 PM  
Dam I really wish I lived near there, I'd go every night order water and just take up space. He would have to have the cops evict me, but it would be worth it.

BTW, I'm a white professional, and in no way look like a freak or homosexual.
 
2014-02-07 05:31:40 PM  

James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: Bane of Broone: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: DROxINxTHExWIND: James10952001: PanicMan: Mattyb710: I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Discrimination damages the health and safety of a community.  The effects may not be immediate, but they can be severe, even lethal.

So does being an asshole, but how do you outlaw that?

You can't legislate morality.


But you can penalize bigots for discrimination.

Yep, you absolutely can. It's called "not patronizing their business". In other words, don't go there and don't give them your money. You even have the option of not helping them out, should they ever wind up in a position of need.


If I live in that town he's already TAKING my money every time the street lights on that block light a path to his restaurant's door. Every time the police come to his restaurant to respond to a call about a disorderly patron. Every time he dumps his greasy trap into the groundwater supply...

No one is demanding that he stay in business and serve cripples. He's more than welcome to pack his shiat up and take it to Sochi or some other place where those veiws are tolerated by the people who pay for the lights on his street.

If the people who pay for lights on his street don't patronize his business, his business will cease to exist and the problem is solved. It's not as if it's located in the middle of San Francisco with all the customers commuting in from backward redneck places.


Look I think he sounds like a real piece if shiat too, but that's his right. It's only a problem if he starts instigating harm to others.

No it's not. Stop ignoring laws because of your personal beliefs.

I'm not ignoring laws, I just refuse to give a shiat and get bent out of shape about this guy. Go there and if he refuses to serve you illegally then you can ma ...


It's not enough for you to intensely dislike this person. You need to rage about it here and get very angry with people who do not demand immediate action from someone else to do something to remove this scourge from the earth, at least for the next couple of hours until the next outrageous thing is green lit. You don't actually have to do anything of course. Irrational impotent rage will suffice.

/For the record, I think this dude is a raging farking asshole.
 
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