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2014-02-07 03:40:36 PM

Bane of Broone: Bloody William: Mattyb710: What I don't agree with is having a law that forces someone to do something with their privately owned business that they don't want to.

Civil Rights Act of 1964. This isn't a new law. This isn't a new concept. This isn't being butthurt about someone's wacky opinion. This is preventing the systematic discrimination of people based on matters beyond their control become the norm again.

Yes, but Matty "feels" otherwise. Why can't you be a real liberal and be open-minded enough to support him in his efforts to promote racism?


FTFM
 
2014-02-07 03:41:15 PM

FlashHarry: he doesn't like "f*ggots, n*ggers, cripples and democrats." i'm guessing his CPAC invitation is on its way.

what a vile, subhuman piece of shiat. i really hope he dies a slow death from ass cancer.


How progressive of you.
 
2014-02-07 03:41:18 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: So great. Now blacks can eat at the lunch counter at Woolworths. Why in Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan's name would they even want to at that point? Why would YOU? You have changed nothing about the people involved, you have not changed any minds or hearts. But now everyone can give Woolworth their money and Woolworth will begrudgingly take it. I think you and I have the same goal in mind just a different view of how to accomplish it.


Because they live there. Because there will always be small fish towns where there are only a handful of minorities. Because there will always be places where people are looked down upon but live there anyway because that's where they live, that's where they come from, and they couldn't move if they wanted to. Because a black man should be able to eat at a lunch counter in North Carolina with as much certainty and safety as a deli in New York. Because injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

If we cannot change minds or hearts, we can at least change actions so those minds and hearts don't hurt people who, unlike those minds and hearts, can't change who or what they are.
 
2014-02-07 03:42:52 PM

James!: trappedspirit: James!: Gosh, Oklahoma must be a nice place to never visit ever.

You're going to answer his challenge with prejudiced discrimination against a whole state?

/like a boss

Yeah.  Life's not fair.  Douchebags reflect poorly on their community.


Are we still talking about your response or did we switch back?
 
2014-02-07 03:43:05 PM

Swanji: Bontesla: LarryDan43: Swanji: Lamberts Ho Man: Swanji: LarryDan43: Swanji: Who cares if this guy is a racist asshole?  Why would people want to eat at his restaurant if he's racist, anyway?  Seems like people are missing the point.  If you force this guy to allow everyone into his business, do you think he'll suddenly not be racist?  Will unicorns and butterflies start flying out of his ass?  The best way to hurt this guy is don't patronize his business in the first place.

Why would you want to drink at the whites only fountain? Its the same water supply!

This is a far, far cry from segregated water fountains, but go ahead and hyperbole it up there, tiger.

It's exactly like segregated water fountains, bathrooms, pools and restaurants from the pre-civil rights south.  How is it not?

It's not, because this is one farking restaurant.  There are no segregated water fountains, bathrooms, or pools.  In fact, there aren't even any segregated restaurants, just this one guy being a piece of shiat.  So no, nowhere even close.  Put a different way, actual segregation was EVERYWHERE.  Every business and government service in every city, town, and hamlet was segregated.  Again, this is one asshole.  One restaurant, not segregation.  So, come up with a more pertinent argument.

I see, so if one business puts up a segregated water fountain its okay because its just one.

Nicely put.

And by permitting such things to happen - it will not inspire like minded bigots. It will forever be that one.

Like minded bigots don't need inspiration, and as long as they are not actually hurting anyone, they are free to do as they please.  At least in this country.  Why do you think the KKK still exists?


No.

Like minded bigots, like many other groups, will model their plans after successful examples.

By allowing this type of illegal discrimination to continue, once publicly exposed, means the public is less protected. The law is less reliable because its enforcement is lacking.

It wasn't so long ago that politicians visited segregated dinners - an action that inherently restricted access by minorities to political candidates.
 
2014-02-07 03:43:18 PM
fark me, after that last post I'm feeling cartoonishly, after school specially, winners don't do drugs-y dramatic. I think I'm gonna go get hooked on caffiene pills in a very special episode.
 
2014-02-07 03:43:20 PM
Fox News would of given this the "HERO" tag.
 
2014-02-07 03:44:09 PM

WTFDYW: Dragonflew: WTFDYW: While this guy is a USDA Grade 'AA' asshole, he is the sole proprietor of the joint and has the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason.

[images.sodahead.com image 350x272]

Prove me wrong and I'll stand corrected but don't give me BS that you think you heard from someone three cubicles over.


Oh my god, seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Civil_Rights_Act
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/restaurants-right-to-r ef use-service.html

But I am only on page 2 of 6 in the thread right now, I imagine you've been sufficiently embarrassed by now.
 
2014-02-07 03:44:17 PM

Bloody William: Swanji: LarryDan43: Swanji: Who cares if this guy is a racist asshole?  Why would people want to eat at his restaurant if he's racist, anyway?  Seems like people are missing the point.  If you force this guy to allow everyone into his business, do you think he'll suddenly not be racist?  Will unicorns and butterflies start flying out of his ass?  The best way to hurt this guy is don't patronize his business in the first place.

Why would you want to drink at the whites only fountain? Its the same water supply!

This is a far, far cry from segregated water fountains, but go ahead and hyperbole it up there, tiger.

Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. "Who cares (because we're not actually in that area)" and "There are bigger fish to fry" is turning a blind eye to that injustice, letting it continue wherever it is.


Wait, so now "injustice" is defined as any time someone is a little mean to someone else, and hurts their feelings?  This is "injustice" because black, crippled, and poor people aren't allowed to eat at a privately owned restaurant that is owned by a man who hates black, crippled, and poor people?  Good lord, how to you make it through the line at the DMV without having an oppression induced nervous breakdown?
 
2014-02-07 03:44:34 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I also like how the dude in the wheelchair was fine with the guy's views until he got discriminated against.


That's the he fundamental principle of modern American conservatism.
 
2014-02-07 03:44:44 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Look at it like this. If this man is forced to serve anyone and everyone who comes in his place and he does so, will you patronize the establishment?


Aggressive, ignorant, bigoted discrimination is socially destructive and hurts both the community and humanity in general. It's a terrible, disgusting thing and any intelligent, ethical person is going to speak out against it, in any instance. This can and should electing to refuse considering patronizing his business.

Were he to end this horrible behavior, he would reset to the normal condition, which is if presented with an opportunity to eat at his establishment, I'd consider it just like any other institution and accept or reject it based on the normal criteria I apply.

Or, to make it easier for you to comprehend, although I shouldn't have to because this is really easy stuff to understand, my criteria for patronizing businesses includes, but is not limited to, not patronizing establishments that engage in horrible, bigoted behavior, because it's irrational, unethical and socially destructive. Now, why is that hard for you to comprehend?
 
2014-02-07 03:44:46 PM

give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: And people wonder why the South is ridiculed.


When did Oklahoma become part of "the South"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

From that article:
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but you also have this:

upload.wikimedia.org

(map of the "Bible Belt")

/ speculation: many Oklahomans are probably descended from people who came from the South....
 
2014-02-07 03:45:02 PM

Bloody William: Dancin_In_Anson: So great. Now blacks can eat at the lunch counter at Woolworths. Why in Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan's name would they even want to at that point? Why would YOU? You have changed nothing about the people involved, you have not changed any minds or hearts. But now everyone can give Woolworth their money and Woolworth will begrudgingly take it. I think you and I have the same goal in mind just a different view of how to accomplish it.

Because they live there. Because there will always be small fish towns where there are only a handful of minorities. Because there will always be places where people are looked down upon but live there anyway because that's where they live, that's where they come from, and they couldn't move if they wanted to. Because a black man should be able to eat at a lunch counter in North Carolina with as much certainty and safety as a deli in New York. Because injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.

If we cannot change minds or hearts, we can at least change actions so those minds and hearts don't hurt people who, unlike those minds and hearts, can't change who or what they are.


That murderer will never feel bad so what's the point of a trial.  What's the point if you cannot change his mind or heart.  Suck it, lib.
 
2014-02-07 03:45:15 PM

Dragonflew: Oh my god, seriously?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1964_Civil_Rights_Act
http://www.legalmatch.com/law-library/article/restaurants-right-to-r ef use-service.html

But I am only on page 2 of 6 in the thread right now, I imagine you've been sufficiently embarrassed by now.


Oh Christ it gets worse.

Swanji: Wait, so now "injustice" is defined as any time someone is a little mean to someone else, and hurts their feelings?  This is "injustice" because black, crippled, and poor people aren't allowed to eat at a privately owned restaurant that is owned by a man who hates black, crippled, and poor people?  Good lord, how to you make it through the line at the DMV without having an oppression induced nervous breakdown?


See what I mean?
 
2014-02-07 03:45:21 PM
F*ck that guy.
 
2014-02-07 03:45:23 PM

duffblue: FlashHarry: he doesn't like "f*ggots, n*ggers, cripples and democrats." i'm guessing his CPAC invitation is on its way.

what a vile, subhuman piece of shiat. i really hope he dies a slow death from ass cancer.

How progressive of you.


We already covered the "intolerant of intolerance" bit. Please try to keep up. You'll see quite a few others that are better than you at being edgy on the internet.
 
2014-02-07 03:45:29 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: jso2897: He will only be forced to serve those he has no reasonable, lawful cause to refuse.

WHY THE FARK WOULD YOU WANT TO BE SERVED BY THIS ASSHOLE?


To make him serve me - and show him what the rules of the society he depends upon for survival are - just like I would a car thief or a child molester. Putting one of those in jail doesn't benefit me personally in any way either - in fact, it cosst me money - should I not support it for that reason?
 
2014-02-07 03:45:31 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: jso2897: He will only be forced to serve those he has no reasonable, lawful cause to refuse.

WHY THE FARK WOULD YOU WANT TO BE SERVED BY THIS ASSHOLE?


Or better yet, WHY WOULD YOU WANT THIS ASSHOLE IN CONTROL OF THE FOOD YOU'RE ABOUT TO EAT!!
 
2014-02-07 03:46:09 PM

Bloody William: fark me, after that last post I'm feeling cartoonishly, after school specially, winners don't do drugs-y dramatic. I think I'm gonna go get hooked on caffiene pills in a very special episode.


It's alright, Mark-Paul Gosselaar will hug the problems away

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-07 03:46:38 PM

sendtodave: Iunno, seems a couple people think I have an actual argument, other than general nipple tweaking.


A couple isn't enough. In the context of this society, you lost this debate before you were born.
 
2014-02-07 03:46:39 PM
Well, at least now, Fred Phelps knows where to take the WBC clan after an Oklahoma demonstration.
 
2014-02-07 03:46:41 PM

jso2897: You also advocate his "right" to exercise them in the conduct of running a public accomodation. the law disagrees with you, and if anyone chooses to invoke it, he will lose.


In OK he is free to refuse service to gays and freaks.
 
2014-02-07 03:46:42 PM

Mattyb710: QU!RK1019: KidneyStone: Don't like him?  Don't go to his restaurant.  Simple.  Done.

Or blow outrage all over web forums because that's actually doing something about this.  May as well pray.

Speaking out against injustice is no small act.  Even if it is to those who feel the same way, it reinforces the sense of equality.  For those who may be on the fence, reading the comments of those who don't abide by evil helps to show them the light.  I won't tacitly condone intolerance.

Speaking out against this guy is exactly the right thing to do. Protest outside his building. Publish pictures of everyone who comes out of his restaurant in the newspaper and label them as supporting a bigot.
Shame the people who eat there so much they stop eating there and he goes out of business.

What I don't agree with is having a law that forces someone to do something with their privately owned business that they don't want to.


Again, you really need to brush up on what a "privately-owned business" actually means.

If you want to discriminate against people, opening a business is the wrong way to go about it.
 
2014-02-07 03:47:17 PM

Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: And people wonder why the South is ridiculed.


When did Oklahoma become part of "the South"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

From that article:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 566x365]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 566x365]

I'm pretty sure the guy in the article would enjoy living in the past as well.


You do realize that the Confederacy didn't annex any states after the Civil War?
 
2014-02-07 03:48:12 PM

DrewCurtisJr: jso2897: You also advocate his "right" to exercise them in the conduct of running a public accomodation. the law disagrees with you, and if anyone chooses to invoke it, he will lose.

In OK he is free to refuse service to gays and freaks.


What if they're handicapped atheists?
 
2014-02-07 03:48:27 PM

dletter: What I see DIA saying is that he wants to go back to a time where "public" facilities could discriminate.


Wrong.

The Stealth Hippopotamus: Or better yet, WHY WOULD YOU WANT THIS ASSHOLE IN CONTROL OF THE FOOD YOU'RE ABOUT TO EAT!!


EXACTLY!
 
2014-02-07 03:48:51 PM

PanicMan: F*ck that guy.


Hey, I aint no f*ggot. You f*ck him but then you don't get any food service after.
 
2014-02-07 03:49:20 PM
cps-static.rovicorp.com

Would be disappointed he couldn't this fine establishment.
 
2014-02-07 03:49:30 PM

give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: And people wonder why the South is ridiculed.


When did Oklahoma become part of "the South"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

From that article:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 566x365]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 566x365]

I'm pretty sure the guy in the article would enjoy living in the past as well.

You do realize that the Confederacy didn't annex any states after the Civil War?


You cling to your definition of "the South", Kentucky, Times change and Oklahoma is now a southern state.
 
2014-02-07 03:49:36 PM

ChipNASA: THANKS OBAMA


Alright. That finally did it. You will now look good in Green 5...
 
2014-02-07 03:50:06 PM

Cat Food Sandwiches: So, your hate for him is somehow more acceptable than his hate for others?


i hate him for the content of his character, not for the color of his skin.

so in a word, "yes."
 
2014-02-07 03:50:08 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: In fact, I'm repeating what I said... to you, that you ignored and continue to ignore for the sake of your bullshiat argument that preventing discrimination based on certain groups is the same as preventing any discretion on accepting customers on the part of a business.

So great. Now blacks can eat at the lunch counter at Woolworths. Why in Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan's name would they even want to at that point? Why would YOU? You have changed nothing about the people involved, you have not changed any minds or hearts. But now everyone can give Woolworth their money and Woolworth will begrudgingly take it. I think you and I have the same goal in mind just a different view of how to accomplish it.


Nobody is trying to change a racist or stop him/her from having racist feelings. I don't know why that's so hard to understand. The owner can be as racist as a watermelon in a noose and still provide equally adequate customer service to a black person. You know, I knid of LIKE going out to eat without checking the farking Yelp page to see if the resturant I'm headed to acceots Negros. I know you just can't grasp why that might be a good thing to me, but it is.
 
2014-02-07 03:51:03 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: In fact, I'm repeating what I said... to you, that you ignored and continue to ignore for the sake of your bullshiat argument that preventing discrimination based on certain groups is the same as preventing any discretion on accepting customers on the part of a business.

So great. Now blacks can eat at the lunch counter at Woolworths. Why in Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan's name would they even want to at that point? Why would YOU? You have changed nothing about the people involved, you have not changed any minds or hearts.


Actually, we have.  Segregated facilities was the norm and that perpetuated racism.  Children growing up in those towns learned that segregation was the way things were, it was the social norm.  Your father and your grandfather told you that those people should be discriminated against and you saw confirmation of that everywhere.  What else would you believe??

If you asked white people in Birmingham in in 1960 if segregation was right and proper, I'm sure a large fraction would say it was.  If you go back and ask that same question in the same place today, enormously fewer people would agree and most that did would be over the age 60.

What happened?  We didn't impinge on people's right to hold those views, or even on their right to express them.  But the world changed, and it changed because we changed the environment and people can't look to the nearest "whites only" sign for confirmation of their prejudices and because they now had to interact with "those people" and learned that they really are human.
 
2014-02-07 03:51:09 PM

free_xenu: Would be disappointed he couldn't this fine establishment.


well, GG allin was famous for eating shiat. i'm guessing he'd have been right at home at this "restaurant."
 
2014-02-07 03:51:45 PM

FlashHarry: Cat Food Sandwiches: So, your hate for him is somehow more acceptable than his hate for others?

i hate him for the content of his character, not for the color of his skin.

so in a word, "yes."


Well said.
 
2014-02-07 03:51:45 PM
You can't make this shiat up. Or, maybe you can, who the hell knows.
 
2014-02-07 03:52:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: Mattyb710: scottydoesntknow: Mattyb710: Public places, and transportation and other places like that should serve anyone and everyone, including 100% handicap access.

Ummm, his restaurant IS a public place.

He could probably fix it if he turned it into a private club, but right now it's open to the public, it's a public place. You can't say "Open to the white public with jobs". It's either public or private.

Unless his business is receiving money from the government or is partly owned by the county or something it is a privately owned place. I feel if something is privately owned then the owner should be able to decide how to run it.

No, it isn't. You really need to brush up on the difference between private and public. A privately owned business that is open to the public is subject to anti-discrimination laws. Simple as that. What you think, and what the law says, are two entirely different things here.

Privately-owned/operated businesses and buildings. Privately-owned businesses and facilities that offer certain goods or services to the public -- including food, lodging, gasoline, and entertainment -- are considered public accommodations for purposes of federal and state anti-discrimination laws. For purposes of disability discrimination, the definition of a "public accommodation" is even more broad, encompassing most businesses that are open to the public (regardless of type).


Thank you for pasting something everyone in this thread already knows. Let me spell it out a little more, since you don't seem to get what I'm saying. I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Bane of Broone: Bane of Broone: Bloody William: Mattyb710: What I don't agree with is having a law that forces someone to do something with their privately owned business that they don't want to.

Civil Rights Act of 1964. This isn't a new law. This isn't a new concept. This isn't being butthurt about someone's wacky opinion. This is preventing the systematic discrimination of people based on matters beyond their control become the norm again.

Yes, but Matty "feels" otherwise. Why can't you be a real liberal and be open-minded enough to support him in his efforts to promote racism?

FTFM


Strawman much? I'm not supporting his right to promote racism (and he's a prejudiced bigot, if we want to be accurate.) The people who continue to eat there are promoting his farked up views. I wouldn't piss on this guy if he was on fire. I think the guy is an ignorant farktard. I'm supporting his right to do as he pleases with private property. Obviously the law disagrees. I don't agree with that law. Maybe you should petition to have a bill signed into law that makes it illegal to disagree with any laws.
 
2014-02-07 03:52:35 PM

jso2897: You are quite right, in the abstract - but we don't live in the panorama of history - we live now, and we do what most men do - attempt to move society forward incrementally. A hundred and fifty years ago, we had to fight a war to establish that men are not property.
70 years ago, people marched and demonstrated and were arrested and beaten and firehosed and bit by police dogs and murdered on dark country roads to establish, among other things, that people can't do what he is doing.
A hundred years from now, we will be struggling to advance mankind beyond some other stupidity.
There IS a right side and a wrong one - a good one and a bad one.
I, by the way, feel no hate for anyone - I have not been victimized, and have had an easy, pleasant, spoiled, white boy's life. I've got no business hating anybody. But I do know an asshole when I see one, and I would prefer, all things considered, to see assholes lose every fight they get in.



See, you're doing it again. You are imposing absolutes on relative things. The real difference between the right side and the wrong side is who wins and who loses. You see the progress of social values and you see it as good, because the winners of these social struggles say it is good. Not only are you being myopic, you are being incredibly Eurocentric. The progression of social values that you see is really only what happened to Western Civ over the last couple thousand years. Not only are you discounting the cultural progression of other societies, but you are also discounting the 100,000 some odd years of human history that's been lost to us.

By the way, this is all purely academic. While I believe that all morality is completely relative in a philosophical sense, only a total sociopath lives that way. I think that's an important distinction.
 
2014-02-07 03:53:11 PM

sovietski: I am also ok with this location being the site of the Oklahoma FARK party. I can bring my friend, who's gay, and his brother, who walks with cane (car accident) and has long hair!!I could dress like a "freak" and wear my cubicle mate's College Democrats button on my shirt./let's make this happen


Damn, I may need to make a road trip...

/carry on, you magnificent bastards.
 
2014-02-07 03:53:14 PM

Bloody William: If we cannot change minds or hearts, we can at least change actions so those minds and hearts don't hurt people who, unlike those minds and hearts, can't change who or what they are.


Well, I  tell you what. Let's make this guy serve whoever walks in the door. You and I can go and you wear a shirt that says something like "I Love (whatever this guy hates)". Then you order a burger from him and eat the whole thing. I'll have a beer instead. You in?

Oh and you can pay as I think I have made my policy on who is worthy of my hard earned dollars.
 
2014-02-07 03:53:21 PM

Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: give me doughnuts: Bane of Broone: And people wonder why the South is ridiculed.


When did Oklahoma become part of "the South"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States

From that article:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 566x365]

[upload.wikimedia.org image 566x365]

I'm pretty sure the guy in the article would enjoy living in the past as well.

You do realize that the Confederacy didn't annex any states after the Civil War?

You cling to your definition of "the South", Kentucky, Times change and Oklahoma is now a southern state.


Call it that all you want, it's still a Western state.
 
2014-02-07 03:53:51 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: Bloody William: In fact, I'm repeating what I said... to you, that you ignored and continue to ignore for the sake of your bullshiat argument that preventing discrimination based on certain groups is the same as preventing any discretion on accepting customers on the part of a business.

So great. Now blacks can eat at the lunch counter at Woolworths. Why in Buddha, Allah, Brahma, Vishnu, Siva, trees, mushrooms, and Isadora Duncan's name would they even want to at that point? Why would YOU? You have changed nothing about the people involved, you have not changed any minds or hearts. But now everyone can give Woolworth their money and Woolworth will begrudgingly take it. I think you and I have the same goal in mind just a different view of how to accomplish it.


Historically, discrimination like this limited access in the political process.

It also limited your ability to network which leads to things like employment.

There's also the argument that we shouldn't tolerate this absurdity because it's wrong.
 
2014-02-07 03:54:05 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: The owner can be as racist as a watermelon in a noose and still provide equally adequate customer service to a black person.


My offer above applies to you as well.
 
2014-02-07 03:54:20 PM

TheGogmagog: coeyagi: FTFV in TFA:

[img.fark.net image 673x377]

Corrupt LEOs.

/So that would be between 10% and 90% of them.  I wonder how he tells them apart.


Did he spell AFL-CIO wrong?

How do you do that?.  It's an acronym.  It's spelled the way it's pronounced.

Me thinks that's not the only error on that shirt.
 
2014-02-07 03:54:29 PM

free_xenu: [cps-static.rovicorp.com image 500x498]

Would be disappointed he couldn't this fine establishment.


Familiar.

Somehow I dont think Allin would have found his way to Oklahoma. Coulda been a good one though.
 
2014-02-07 03:54:40 PM
Oklahomos
 
2014-02-07 03:56:44 PM

trappedspirit: James!: trappedspirit: James!: Gosh, Oklahoma must be a nice place to never visit ever.

You're going to answer his challenge with prejudiced discrimination against a whole state?

/like a boss

Yeah.  Life's not fair.  Douchebags reflect poorly on their community.

Are we still talking about your response or did we switch back?


If you keep clutching your pearls so hard you'll break them.
 
2014-02-07 03:57:48 PM

Dancin_In_Anson: DROxINxTHExWIND: The owner can be as racist as a watermelon in a noose and still provide equally adequate customer service to a black person.

My offer above applies to you as well.



You mean the goalposts that you moved from, "he shouldn't have to serve you" to "why would you want him to serve you if he hates you"?
 
2014-02-07 03:57:53 PM

Mattyb710: scottydoesntknow: Mattyb710: scottydoesntknow: Mattyb710: Public places, and transportation and other places like that should serve anyone and everyone, including 100% handicap access.

Ummm, his restaurant IS a public place.

He could probably fix it if he turned it into a private club, but right now it's open to the public, it's a public place. You can't say "Open to the white public with jobs". It's either public or private.

Unless his business is receiving money from the government or is partly owned by the county or something it is a privately owned place. I feel if something is privately owned then the owner should be able to decide how to run it.

No, it isn't. You really need to brush up on the difference between private and public. A privately owned business that is open to the public is subject to anti-discrimination laws. Simple as that. What you think, and what the law says, are two entirely different things here.

Privately-owned/operated businesses and buildings. Privately-owned businesses and facilities that offer certain goods or services to the public -- including food, lodging, gasoline, and entertainment -- are considered public accommodations for purposes of federal and state anti-discrimination laws. For purposes of disability discrimination, the definition of a "public accommodation" is even more broad, encompassing most businesses that are open to the public (regardless of type).

Thank you for pasting something everyone in this thread already knows. Let me spell it out a little more, since you don't seem to get what I'm saying. I do not believe there should be laws that control what an individual does with their privately owned property, except in cases of public health and safety.

Bane of Broone: Bane of Broone: Bloody William: Mattyb710: What I don't agree with is having a law that forces someone to do something with their privately owned business that they don't want to.

Civil Rights Act of 1964. This isn't a new law. This isn't a new c ...


Disagree all you want. Not only does the law not agree with you, but you don't agree with what private property really is either (as shown before). You have to create your own reality to support your beliefs. "I don't agree with this law or that definition.. It should be what I say it is!", lol. Think and believe whatever you like. Reality says otherwise. No wonder Florida has it's own tag. XD
 
2014-02-07 03:57:58 PM

Premeditated_Road_Rage: Well, at least now, Fred Phelps knows where to take the WBC clan after an Oklahoma demonstration.


Nope. The Phelps brood claims, hilariously, to be democrats.
 
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