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(Deadspin)   The last thing the NBA needs is yet a another statistical measure. Wait... this one is actually pretty cool   (regressing.deadspin.com) divider line 4
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2014-02-07 10:20:32 AM
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Carats per rape?
2014-02-07 06:01:44 PM
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ladodger34: doubled99: And, while you might say 7th in the West (29-20) isn't exactly Moneyball, keep in mind in preseason, Vegas had the Suns o/u for wins at something like 17.5, maybe 18.5.  EIGHTY TWO GAME SEASON, FOLKS.   we were picked to be absolute dogs.  whether it was Mcdonough's alleged metrics, rookie coach what's his nuts (hornacek, just came to me), a combination thereof, or maybe just good ol fashioned dumbassery by the bookmakers, something good is happening in the Six Oh Deuce.

we've almost doubled the preseason win prediction before the ASG.

wow. This rambling bit of speculation is closer to supporting my view than yours.

Do advanced stats effect your enjoyment of the watching the sport right now?

These guys are so fringe that fringe might be too generous of a description.

I mean in baseball, advanced stats say that Jeter can't field worth a lick. For a Yankees fan that has watched him throughout his career and counts the rings, have advanced stats hurt the product?


Advanced stats have almost zero effect on the enjoyment of the game for fans. They are good for front office personnel, scouts, managers, and sports talk radio hosts that try too hard to sound like the smartest person in the room.
2014-02-07 11:18:21 AM
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Dafatone: Good players who get a lot of touches and force tough shots/plays because they're still their team's best options, or bad players who put up big numbers because the rest of the team sucks too?


"Mommy, what's a 'Carmelo Anthony'?"
2014-02-07 10:51:35 AM
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ladodger34: MugzyBrown: That was pretty stupid.

There are great benefits to analytics in sports.  Then it is taken into statistical masturbation which becomes nonsense.

What was wrong with it? I read it late last night, but the crux of the stat seems to be let's use all the data possible to figure out the 'little things' that players do to maximize scoring.

Statistical masturbation is that crap that baseball announcers use. 'When the Braves wear red jerseys on the second sunday game of the month, Freddy hits .789 when Heyward hits a double in front of him'.

This stat might end up being meaningless, but there are a bunch of advanced stats in baseball that were built upon other stats.


The example in particular is self-contradicting for one.  It's trying to break down a very fluid event into such minute detail it's idiotic.

A Tim Duncan screen sets up a Tony Parker to drive, slightly decreasing EPV as he drives right at a defender (Zeller)-a quintessential Parker move-but then increasing EPV once the point guard enters the paint.

Why would the expected points go down as Parker starts to drive and then back up as he continues the same move.  It even says that Parker does this a lot, and probably his whole point of driving at a player is to open up another player.

Then the expected points of the 3 pointer goes down because the defender, who is miles away, tries to uselessly close out?

You don't even need a metric to analyse this play.  It's really simple: WTF is Dion Waiters doing?  He moved to a position where he can't defend a Parker shot, he can't defend a Parker pass and the man he is marking is wide open.

The metric should be: EPV once Dion Waiters puts his head in his ass is 3
 
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