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2014-02-07 11:01:55 AM  

born_yesterday: A Cave Geek: Saiga410: A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)

Easily the 47%

While I can see the argument for that...I wonder what the context had to do with it, rather than the comment itself?

Perhaps: "Corporations are people, my friend "
or: "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."
possibly: "I'm not concerned about the very poor."

Kerry was a pandering weakling.  But Mitt was just horrid.  How someone like him could have even gotten INTO the primaries is a real puzzler  a factor of money.

(Fixed that for myself)

Just something to consider:  you're trying to have a reasoned argument with someone that voted for Mitt Romney and was proud of it.


So there were no rational people that voted for Romney?  It would be folly to attempt a reasoned argument with a person that holds that view. That is 100% drank the kool-aid sheep thinking right there.
 
2014-02-07 11:03:24 AM  
James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.
 
2014-02-07 11:03:33 AM  
I saw him and his wife on Bill Maher the other week. They were both either drunk or senile. Perhaps a bit of both.
 
2014-02-07 11:07:18 AM  

born_yesterday: Just something to consider:  you're trying to have a reasoned argument with someone that voted for Mitt Romney and was proud of it.


Ugh.  The fact that so many people were fooled by that guy says much about our education system.
 
2014-02-07 11:08:12 AM  
Faux News is doing that because Carville is a little goofy looking and an ecentric. Foxy News likes to hire Democrats/liberals who they can pose as " see how screwed up/different liberals are?"

its like parading a mexican midget around to imply that all mexicans are deficient in some way.  its a subconscious thing.

ole' Fuks News is just doing what Propaganda Artists do.

oldest game in the book.

hell, Hitler did the same with Jews in his propaganda films.  he'd have the most screwed up looking Jews as an example of your average Jew.

i'm not saying Carville is ugly,  just unique looking and very intelligient.   the last one is something Foxy News will suffer the consequences of.  they just don't know it yet.
 
2014-02-07 11:10:07 AM  

thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.


I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.
 
2014-02-07 11:13:51 AM  

Wendy's Chili: I saw him and his wife on Bill Maher the other week. They were both either drunk or senile. Perhaps a bit of both.


To be fair, Maher's show is no place for sober, rational discussions.
 
2014-02-07 11:15:07 AM  

sendtodave: Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?


He's a CNN reject.  If you're going to work in the TV biz, why not aspire to work for #1?
 
2014-02-07 11:15:54 AM  

Tricky Chicken: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.


That's what editing is for.
 
2014-02-07 11:17:05 AM  
Cajun style!

/hasn't been said enough
 
2014-02-07 11:18:21 AM  

A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.

That's what editing is for.


Then it will either be nothing but reaction shots of him, or it will make absolutely no sense...
 
2014-02-07 11:28:42 AM  

thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.


Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.
 
2014-02-07 11:29:00 AM  

Tricky Chicken: A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.

That's what editing is for.

Then it will either be nothing but reaction shots of him, or it will make absolutely no sense...


You expect SENSE on Fox?  expect no such thing.

www.torontorealtyblog.com

Welcome to FOX News.
 
2014-02-07 11:29:43 AM  
i always disagree with the man, but every time i see him on tv i will watch and listen.  i actually like his accent and seems like a fun guy to go have a few beers with.

and he looks like a snake.
 
2014-02-07 11:30:30 AM  

Epicedion: Cajun style!


static.tvgcdn.net

/Hot like Cajun style
 
2014-02-07 11:33:13 AM  

Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.


I would team Carville up with Brazile for any debate.  I have been trying to come up with a conservative team to put against them and I am not coming up with anything.
 
2014-02-07 11:36:04 AM  
Can't blame the man for wanting to share commute time with his wife (who is also a Fox news contributor).

Besides:  I'm sure they hired him because his histrionic style will easily allow them to make him look like a
drooling idiot.  All of their 'liberal' commentators are intended to look like loons to contrast them to the
buttoned down 'normal' conservatives.
 
2014-02-07 11:36:22 AM  

max_pooper: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


James Carville did not have any meaningful role in Kerry Campaign that would allowed him to purposely sink it.


Right.  He's thinking of  Terry McAuliffe.
 
2014-02-07 11:43:31 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.

I would team Carville up with Brazile for any debate.  I have been trying to come up with a conservative team to put against them and I am not coming up with anything.


PJ O'Rourke (who isn't a Republican and isn't a "pundit", and is probably as conservative as Carville, but eleventy times as cantankerous), Gary Johnson, Roy Blount Jr, and John Dean.

// and my buddy who ran for an AG spot in PA as a Republican, but I wouldn't expect him to be well-known
 
2014-02-07 11:53:07 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Tricky Chicken: Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.

I would team Carville up with Brazile for any debate.  I have been trying to come up with a conservative team to put against them and I am not coming up with anything.

PJ O'Rourke (who isn't a Republican and isn't a "pundit", and is probably as conservative as Carville, but eleventy times as cantankerous), Gary Johnson, Roy Blount Jr, and John Dean.

// and my buddy who ran for an AG spot in PA as a Republican, but I wouldn't expect him to be well-known


So everybody against Johnson?
 
2014-02-07 12:07:22 PM  

Tricky Chicken: So everybody against Johnson?


It'd be less of a "left v right" and more of a coalition-style debate where every topic might have Brazile and Johnson on opposite sides, but the others would vacillate.

Anyway, might be more fun than "SE Cupp and Newt Gingrich Get Stupid and Inflammatory with Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones".
 
2014-02-07 12:10:08 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Tricky Chicken: So everybody against Johnson?

It'd be less of a "left v right" and more of a coalition-style debate where every topic might have Brazile and Johnson on opposite sides, but the others would vacillate.

Anyway, might be more fun than "SE Cupp and Newt Gingrich Get Stupid and Inflammatory with Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones".


I've never seen the new version of crossfire. I figured it would basically suck.
 
2014-02-07 12:13:45 PM  

sendtodave: Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?


Political consultants are hired guns. No shait Sherlock.
 
2014-02-07 12:20:08 PM  
cum-pundit

static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-02-07 12:22:25 PM  

Fart_Machine: sendtodave: Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?

Political consultants are hired guns. No shait Sherlock.


That's the joke.

This is a non-story story.
 
2014-02-07 12:40:19 PM  
Is he going to leave his professorship for this?
 
2014-02-07 12:45:16 PM  

Tricky Chicken: dripping with sarcasm: Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.

He made his name with the Clinton campaign.

I wouldn't call bringing about the most influential Democrat presidental term since the 60's the actions of a sell out.


Anytime NAFTA, Walmart, China and deregulation of banking comes up, the left temporarily disowns Clinton. "He is no liberal" they will say, while sucking his knob in the next story.
 
2014-02-07 12:48:38 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Tricky Chicken: dripping with sarcasm: Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.

He made his name with the Clinton campaign.

I wouldn't call bringing about the most influential Democrat presidental term since the 60's the actions of a sell out.

Anytime NAFTA, Walmart, China and deregulation of banking comes up, the left temporarily disowns Clinton. "He is no liberal" they will say, while sucking his knob in the next story.



Conservatives: Throwing the baby out with the bath water since 1994.

You can like some of a politicians policies and dislike others. I think what you're getting confused is that NAFTA, etc. gets brought up to dispute the Conservative lie that Clinton is the most liberal President to ever liberal.
 
2014-02-07 12:57:01 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Dr Dreidel: Tricky Chicken: So everybody against Johnson?

It'd be less of a "left v right" and more of a coalition-style debate where every topic might have Brazile and Johnson on opposite sides, but the others would vacillate.

Anyway, might be more fun than "SE Cupp and Newt Gingrich Get Stupid and Inflammatory with Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones".

I've never seen the new version of crossfire. I figured it would basically suck.


media.portland.indymedia.org

There's a reason you don't try to bring things back from the dead. It's an abomination and against all that is good and pure.
 
2014-02-07 01:03:46 PM  

guestguy: cum-pundit


Said Ripley to the android Bishop. We're not doing "phrasing" anymore.
 
2014-02-07 01:08:57 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: A blathering loud mouth on a channel full of the them. Sounds like a perfect fit


This.
 
2014-02-07 01:11:31 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?


The right-wing created perception that he "flip flopped" any more than any other politician was part of it, along with the Swift-Boating. This is different from him actually being a "flip flopper" any more than any other politician, which he was not, but which Rove was very apt at creating a perception of.

Only an idiot believed that line. It just happens that i t got enough idiots out to vote.
 
2014-02-07 01:24:56 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.


You pretty much have to sell a candidate to pass the Conservative America Test. That means getting hired guns on your team even after you get into office.

And you'd better farking believe in God, too. No atheists in Oval Offices.
 
2014-02-07 01:38:48 PM  

Leishu: Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

The right-wing created perception that he "flip flopped" any more than any other politician was part of it, along with the Swift-Boating. This is different from him actually being a "flip flopper" any more than any other politician, which he was not, but which Rove was very apt at creating a perception of.

Only an idiot believed that line. It just happens that i t got enough idiots out to vote.


""I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it." - John Kerrey 2003
That line basically nailed that title to his forehead with one breath.
Only an idiot would delude themselves into thinking it didn't happen.

Or you could just look at that right wing propaganda site CBS I htink Rove was their editor.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/">http://www.c bsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/

Your memory of the time is inaccurate at best. Or you are a liar at worst.
 
2014-02-07 01:48:12 PM  
Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.
 
2014-02-07 01:50:59 PM  

Danger Mouse: Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.


You're really butthurt about Kerry for some reason. What, did he threaten to raise your taxes or something?
 
2014-02-07 01:55:08 PM  

Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


I worked on Kerry's campaign and the man was an empty suit. There was no reason to vote FOR Kerry, only ahainst Bush. Obama won because there were reasons to vote FOR him, rather than 'because I hate the other guy.'
 
2014-02-07 01:57:26 PM  

The Lone Gunman: There was no reason to vote FOR Kerry, only ahainst Bush


I can go along with that, although at the time I also thought we'd have a sane Presidency for once. Apparently that wasn't enough.
 
2014-02-07 02:20:16 PM  

whidbey: Danger Mouse: Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.

You're really butthurt about Kerry for some reason. What, did he threaten to raise your taxes or something?


As a resident of MA I've had to live with this Douchebag in office since 1984. I've got extra specail Kerry butthurt.

My all time favorite was when he was caught registering his yacht in RI to avoid his own states luxary tax.
 
2014-02-07 02:20:50 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.


If Kerry had won in 2004, Hillary couldn't have run in 2008.

Because Kerry lost in 2004, Hillary was the frontrunner and presumptive Dem nominee in 2008.

You do the math.

/all until those meddling kids Barack Obama came along and foiled the plan!
 
2014-02-07 05:29:58 PM  

Danger Mouse: whidbey: Danger Mouse: Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.

You're really butthurt about Kerry for some reason. What, did he threaten to raise your taxes or something?

As a resident of MA I've had to live with this Douchebag in office since 1984. I've got extra specail Kerry butthurt.

My all time favorite was when he was caught registering his yacht in RI to avoid his own states luxary tax.


I dunno. The only non-right wing blog I could google (HuffPro) still made it sound like the incident was still a dumb witch hunt righties were slinging around.

That's really the worst you can throw at him?
 
2014-02-07 05:44:46 PM  
This was funny: Carville vs. Novak 2005 (NSFW because someone said a bad word ZOMFG)
 
2014-02-07 07:25:47 PM  

Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.


He'd kick my ass!  What they do on Fox is not debating.  They don't let people answer questions, they jump around when they hear something they don't like, and it is usually 2 or 3 against one.  If Carville was given a chance to lay out what he thinks he would probably do real well, but that isn't going to happen.
 
2014-02-07 10:24:49 PM  
 
2014-02-07 11:53:54 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

The right-wing created perception that he "flip flopped" any more than any other politician was part of it, along with the Swift-Boating. This is different from him actually being a "flip flopper" any more than any other politician, which he was not, but which Rove was very apt at creating a perception of.

Only an idiot believed that line. It just happens that i t got enough idiots out to vote.

""I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it." - John Kerrey 2003
That line basically nailed that title to his forehead with one breath.
Only an idiot would delude themselves into thinking it didn't happen.

Or you could just look at that right wing propaganda site CBS I htink Rove was their editor.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/">http://www.c bsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/

Your memory of the time is inaccurate at best. Or you are a liar at worst.


So... you think he flip-flopped more than other politicians? I'd just like to have this clarified so I can Farky you as "idiot" now and save myself the trouble of responding to your drivel.
 
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