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2014-02-07 09:11:59 AM  
A blathering loud mouth on a channel full of the them. Sounds like a perfect fit
 
2014-02-07 09:41:24 AM  
Fair and Balanced.
 
2014-02-07 09:43:00 AM  
DINO
 
2014-02-07 09:43:32 AM  
His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.
 
2014-02-07 09:46:20 AM  

Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.
 
2014-02-07 09:46:28 AM  

Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.



James Carville did not have any meaningful role in Kerry Campaign that would allowed him to purposely sink it.
 
2014-02-07 09:47:46 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.


He made his name with the Clinton campaign.
 
2014-02-07 09:52:31 AM  

dripping with sarcasm: Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.

He made his name with the Clinton campaign.


I wouldn't call bringing about the most influential Democrat presidental term since the 60's the actions of a sell out.
 
2014-02-07 09:54:35 AM  

Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


The Kerry campaign was sunk by Kerry, who came off as a clueless, douchey idiot... and this was in comparison to GWB.
 
2014-02-07 09:58:36 AM  
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R.I.P.
 
2014-02-07 09:59:15 AM  

dripping with sarcasm: Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.

He made his name with the Clinton campaign.


Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


Yea,  Kerry lost because of Carville, not the fact that John Kerry is a massive flip flopping arrogant douche.
 
2014-02-07 10:00:14 AM  
OK, long post, please bear with me:

I would really love it if the whole "Liberal vs conservative" argument would just simply die off.  That way, those current members fo the tea party that really want to tackle the debt load and that alone wouldn't have to run with the psychos and crazies that are running the show over there.  Liberals who want to tackle reasonable health care reform and environmental issues wouldn't be saddled with the extremist groups that bomb factories and things like that.  The independents who just want to do the most intelligent thing possible wouldn't be caught in the crossfire of "LIB!!"  "CON!!" diatribes.

Yes, the left has it's loonies...but they tolerate them, and every so often, give them limited platforms to get their point across. Conservatives worship their loonies.  Yes, there's no other way to say it.  People the likes of Jindall, Bachmann, Limbaugh, Aikin, Palin, Hannity, McConnell, Ryan, and all the others are just complete LOONS!  Fruitcakes!  Diagnose-ably mentally incompetent for adult life!  Complete total and utter loonies, with NO ideas, NO intent to do anything positive, and not even the remotest attempts at being human beings.  And conservatives WORSHIP these people.

Look, I've got issues with the left, but I have completely discarded the right.  NO idea that they can come up with is not stained and tainted by the stink of the crazy train they've been riding for the last three decades. The entire GOP needs to be scrapped, stripped down to a few core moderates, and re-built from the ground up.  We need conservatives.  There.  I said it.  We need them.  They are a 'second check', or a 'cautionary voice' in the continual march forward towards a better nation, a better society.  They make sure that new ideas are given proper 'vetting' before charging in and implementing them.

But in their current incarnation, they aren't doing that.  They are fully intent on marching backward.  Completely and totally backward.  Fully intent on rolling back hundreds of years of progress, scientific achievement, and social justice, all "In the name of God".  And unfortunately for them, the "God" they refer to would in no way, shape or form endorse their ideals.
 
2014-02-07 10:00:37 AM  

tforbes: The Kerry campaign was sunk by Kerry, who came off as a clueless, douchey idiot... and this was in comparison to GWB.


Don't forget the idiotic american public who caught onto their mistake a couple years later.
 
2014-02-07 10:02:33 AM  

Danger Mouse:  flip flopping



Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.
 
2014-02-07 10:07:18 AM  

Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.


You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?
 
2014-02-07 10:09:24 AM  
Cajun style!
 
2014-02-07 10:10:15 AM  
Fairly unbalanced
 
2014-02-07 10:11:41 AM  

Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?


And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)
 
2014-02-07 10:12:32 AM  

Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.


Um, that's a pretty accurate description of Kerry. He was the Democrats' version of Romney and it still amazes me how the Democratic primary voters were stupid enough to pick him as the candidate that year.

/it should've been Dean
//don't know if could have won against W but he certainly would have put up a better fight
 
2014-02-07 10:12:45 AM  

Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.



Huh? anyone remotely familliar with John Kerry knows he's a flip flopping pandering douche bag, and that was well before the presidential "I was for the war before I was against it" ad.
 
2014-02-07 10:13:45 AM  
Carville really just wants to spread his "miracle whip" over Megyn Kelly.

civictribune.com

Open wide!
 
2014-02-07 10:13:58 AM  
How bad is your life when you're promoted to "Colmes"?
 
2014-02-07 10:14:42 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis Mondale was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?


FTFY

Dukakis was sunk by his tank picture plus Lee Atwater cranking up the negative PR machine and mentioning "Willie Horton" 50,000 times to suburban white voters.
 
2014-02-07 10:15:55 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

Um, that's a pretty accurate description of Kerry. He was the Democrats' version of Romney and it still amazes me how the Democratic primary voters were stupid enough to pick him as the candidate that year.

/it should've been Dean
//don't know if could have won against W but he certainly would have put up a better fight


This.  I would have voted for Dean in a heartbeat.  The D's would be having NO problems winning any election right now if they showed a fair bit more fight.  Granted, One of the reasons I lean towards them is that they are the adults int he room, and don't tend to wade into the muck and mud as deeply as the GOP always does.  That said, some things are worth fighting for, and I wish the D's would pick up a baseball bat now and again.
 
2014-02-07 10:16:58 AM  
www.troll.me
 
2014-02-07 10:17:35 AM  
Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?
 
2014-02-07 10:18:01 AM  

the_vegetarian_cannibal: /it should've been Dean


I think that's what killed any remaining notion I had that the media was liberal.

Everybody knows that the more exposure you have to people outside your clan, the more liberal you trend - people who speak a second (or third, fifth, whatever) language, people who've lived abroad, people who've changed religious beliefs or economic strata - so it's no surprise that journalists might have a more liberal attitude.

But the way they savaged Dean makes me think it was personal as well as political, especially compared with how Warren and deBlasio are treated now.

// maybe it took super-conservatism to realize that sorta-super liberalishism is worth a shot?
// anyway, Dean should run again, scream or no scream
// any Edvard Munch PSes of that?
 
2014-02-07 10:18:25 AM  

A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)


Easily the 47%
 
2014-02-07 10:19:15 AM  

A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)


I think the one that will get remembered is the '47%' deal.

the_vegetarian_cannibal: Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping

Mondale was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'

FTFY

Dukakis was sunk by his tank picture plus Lee Atwater cranking up the negative PR machine and mentioning "Willie Horton" 50,000 times to suburban white voters.


Thanks, I did screw that one up.
 
2014-02-07 10:19:43 AM  
Bring in his wife for a he said/she said.   I would watch that.
 
2014-02-07 10:21:20 AM  

Saiga410: Bring in his wife for a he said/she said.   I would watch that.


Have you seen her lately? I don't think she can even blink anymore.
 
2014-02-07 10:22:30 AM  
He's on a bunch and this was mentioned a month or two back. Kucinich joined a while back, as did Austin Goolsbee. Fox news gets a little needed respectability from these hires and these guys get to insert some democratic messaging to moderate the derp. Its not a move towards the center or anything as it doesn't change the narratives, but it does allow democrats to reach more thoughtful segments of their audience to show them their positions are not as comical as shown.
 
2014-02-07 10:23:08 AM  

Saiga410: A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)

Easily the 47%


While I can see the argument for that...I wonder what the context had to do with it, rather than the comment itself?

Perhaps: "Corporations are people, my friend "
or: "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."
possibly: "I'm not concerned about the very poor."

Kerry was a pandering weakling.  But Mitt was just horrid.  How someone like him could have even gotten INTO the primaries is a real puzzler  a factor of money.

(Fixed that for myself)
 
2014-02-07 10:27:41 AM  
Seee?!! Seee?!!! FOX News is part of the lame streem madia~!
 
2014-02-07 10:27:46 AM  
Carville is in many ways a perfect foil for some of the conservative Fox News pundits. He is sharp as a tack and merciless in a debate. Confrontation is his middle name.
 
2014-02-07 10:27:58 AM  
Best infotainment on TV.
 
2014-02-07 10:29:43 AM  

Kuta: Carville is in many ways a perfect foil for some of the conservative Fox News pundits. He is sharp as a tack and merciless in a debate. Confrontation is his middle name.


At the very least you can't shout over him.
 
2014-02-07 10:30:28 AM  

A Cave Geek: Kerry was a pandering weakling. But Mitt was just horrid. How someone like him could have even gotten INTO the primaries is a real puzzler a factor of money a testament to how horrible the GOP field was.


FTFTFY

In any other primary year, Romney would have been crushed. Back in 2008, forget McCain, even Mike Huckabee probably would have beaten him if it had been a 2-way race between them.
 
2014-02-07 10:30:32 AM  

m1ke: R.I.P.


AAHH! It's like someone opened the Ark of the Covenant.
 
2014-02-07 10:32:08 AM  

Kuta: Carville is in many ways a perfect foil for some of the conservative Fox News pundits. He is sharp as a tack and merciless in a debate. Confrontation is his middle name.


And for being a D.C. insider for so long he still comes across as a wise, yet good 'ol boy.

If you go catfishing with him, you'll come back with a passel of catfish.
 
2014-02-07 10:33:56 AM  
You can only afford a product, because some rich person invented it for the masses, just like they did with smartphones, hard drives and affordable air travel. -- Carville 2012

2014 goes to Fox News.

My shocked face

farm4.staticflickr.com
 
2014-02-07 10:35:51 AM  
"Fox News announced it hired longtime Democratic strategist-cum-pundit James Carville as a network contributor ...."

What the hell is a cum pundit supposed to be??
 
2014-02-07 10:35:58 AM  

Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


How could James Carville fudge the votes in Ohio?
 
2014-02-07 10:36:22 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Saiga410: Bring in his wife for a he said/she said.   I would watch that.

Have you seen her lately? I don't think she can even blink anymore.


I havent seen her in years but I can imagine she wouldnt age gracefully.  I do remember her as a political proxy as sharp as her husband.
 
2014-02-07 10:37:27 AM  

Smoking GNU: "Fox News announced it hired longtime Democratic strategist-cum-pundit James Carville as a network contributor ...."

What the hell is a cum pundit supposed to be??


I thought that was what Roger Ailes calls his female "correspondents" and "reporters."
 
2014-02-07 10:40:27 AM  

Smoking GNU: "Fox News announced it hired longtime Democratic strategist-cum-pundit James Carville as a network contributor ...."

What the hell is a cum pundit supposed to be??


"Cum pundit" should be all these talking heads' job title.
 
2014-02-07 10:42:33 AM  
They were talking about "illegal aliens" but he only heard the word "aliens" so he signed up.
 
2014-02-07 10:51:02 AM  

Saiga410: Tricky Chicken: Saiga410: Bring in his wife for a he said/she said.   I would watch that.

Have you seen her lately? I don't think she can even blink anymore.

I havent seen her in years but I can imagine she wouldnt age gracefully.  I do remember her as a political proxy as sharp as her husband.


She sort of hasn't aged at all.  She appears to have been dipped into some sort of epoxy resin face first and then allowed to cure. Immagine Joan Rivers meets Guy Fawkes mask.
 
2014-02-07 10:53:44 AM  

A Cave Geek: Yes, the left has it's loonies...but they tolerate them, and every so often, give them limited platforms to get their point across. Conservatives worship their loonies.  Yes, there's no other way to say it.  People the likes of Jindall, Bachmann, Limbaugh, Aikin, Palin, Hannity, McConnell, Ryan, and all the others are just complete LOONS!  Fruitcakes!  Diagnose-ably mentally incompetent for adult life!  Complete total and utter loonies, with NO ideas, NO intent to do anything positive, and not even the remotest attempts at being human beings.  And conservatives WORSHIP these people.


If anything could better illustrate liberal attitudes toward conservatives, I don't know what it would be: We're quirky, you're possessed.
 
2014-02-07 10:54:55 AM  

A Cave Geek: Saiga410: A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)

Easily the 47%

While I can see the argument for that...I wonder what the context had to do with it, rather than the comment itself?

Perhaps: "Corporations are people, my friend "
or: "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."
possibly: "I'm not concerned about the very poor."

Kerry was a pandering weakling.  But Mitt was just horrid.  How someone like him could have even gotten INTO the primaries is a real puzzler  a factor of money.

(Fixed that for myself)


Just something to consider:  you're trying to have a reasoned argument with someone that voted for Mitt Romney and was proud of it.
 
2014-02-07 11:01:55 AM  

born_yesterday: A Cave Geek: Saiga410: A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

And which one sunk Mitt?  (I think there were several, personally)

Easily the 47%

While I can see the argument for that...I wonder what the context had to do with it, rather than the comment itself?

Perhaps: "Corporations are people, my friend "
or: "I like being able to fire people who provide services to me."
possibly: "I'm not concerned about the very poor."

Kerry was a pandering weakling.  But Mitt was just horrid.  How someone like him could have even gotten INTO the primaries is a real puzzler  a factor of money.

(Fixed that for myself)

Just something to consider:  you're trying to have a reasoned argument with someone that voted for Mitt Romney and was proud of it.


So there were no rational people that voted for Romney?  It would be folly to attempt a reasoned argument with a person that holds that view. That is 100% drank the kool-aid sheep thinking right there.
 
2014-02-07 11:03:24 AM  
James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.
 
2014-02-07 11:03:33 AM  
I saw him and his wife on Bill Maher the other week. They were both either drunk or senile. Perhaps a bit of both.
 
2014-02-07 11:07:18 AM  

born_yesterday: Just something to consider:  you're trying to have a reasoned argument with someone that voted for Mitt Romney and was proud of it.


Ugh.  The fact that so many people were fooled by that guy says much about our education system.
 
2014-02-07 11:08:12 AM  
Faux News is doing that because Carville is a little goofy looking and an ecentric. Foxy News likes to hire Democrats/liberals who they can pose as " see how screwed up/different liberals are?"

its like parading a mexican midget around to imply that all mexicans are deficient in some way.  its a subconscious thing.

ole' Fuks News is just doing what Propaganda Artists do.

oldest game in the book.

hell, Hitler did the same with Jews in his propaganda films.  he'd have the most screwed up looking Jews as an example of your average Jew.

i'm not saying Carville is ugly,  just unique looking and very intelligient.   the last one is something Foxy News will suffer the consequences of.  they just don't know it yet.
 
2014-02-07 11:10:07 AM  

thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.


I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.
 
2014-02-07 11:13:51 AM  

Wendy's Chili: I saw him and his wife on Bill Maher the other week. They were both either drunk or senile. Perhaps a bit of both.


To be fair, Maher's show is no place for sober, rational discussions.
 
2014-02-07 11:15:07 AM  

sendtodave: Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?


He's a CNN reject.  If you're going to work in the TV biz, why not aspire to work for #1?
 
2014-02-07 11:15:54 AM  

Tricky Chicken: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.


That's what editing is for.
 
2014-02-07 11:17:05 AM  
Cajun style!

/hasn't been said enough
 
2014-02-07 11:18:21 AM  

A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.

That's what editing is for.


Then it will either be nothing but reaction shots of him, or it will make absolutely no sense...
 
2014-02-07 11:28:42 AM  

thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.


Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.
 
2014-02-07 11:29:00 AM  

Tricky Chicken: A Cave Geek: Tricky Chicken: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

I don't agree.  Everytime I see him, he is coherent, on message, and devastatingly dominant in whatever is debated.  He is profoundly prepared and applies sound retorts with a razor wit. I may dislike the man's politics, but I admire his skill.

I slightly pitty the Fox pundits he will go up against. I think the right needs a Buckley to counter him, but they are not around.

That's what editing is for.

Then it will either be nothing but reaction shots of him, or it will make absolutely no sense...


You expect SENSE on Fox?  expect no such thing.

www.torontorealtyblog.com

Welcome to FOX News.
 
2014-02-07 11:29:43 AM  
i always disagree with the man, but every time i see him on tv i will watch and listen.  i actually like his accent and seems like a fun guy to go have a few beers with.

and he looks like a snake.
 
2014-02-07 11:30:30 AM  

Epicedion: Cajun style!


static.tvgcdn.net

/Hot like Cajun style
 
2014-02-07 11:33:13 AM  

Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.


I would team Carville up with Brazile for any debate.  I have been trying to come up with a conservative team to put against them and I am not coming up with anything.
 
2014-02-07 11:36:04 AM  
Can't blame the man for wanting to share commute time with his wife (who is also a Fox news contributor).

Besides:  I'm sure they hired him because his histrionic style will easily allow them to make him look like a
drooling idiot.  All of their 'liberal' commentators are intended to look like loons to contrast them to the
buttoned down 'normal' conservatives.
 
2014-02-07 11:36:22 AM  

max_pooper: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


James Carville did not have any meaningful role in Kerry Campaign that would allowed him to purposely sink it.


Right.  He's thinking of  Terry McAuliffe.
 
2014-02-07 11:43:31 AM  

Tricky Chicken: Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.

I would team Carville up with Brazile for any debate.  I have been trying to come up with a conservative team to put against them and I am not coming up with anything.


PJ O'Rourke (who isn't a Republican and isn't a "pundit", and is probably as conservative as Carville, but eleventy times as cantankerous), Gary Johnson, Roy Blount Jr, and John Dean.

// and my buddy who ran for an AG spot in PA as a Republican, but I wouldn't expect him to be well-known
 
2014-02-07 11:53:07 AM  

Dr Dreidel: Tricky Chicken: Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.

I would team Carville up with Brazile for any debate.  I have been trying to come up with a conservative team to put against them and I am not coming up with anything.

PJ O'Rourke (who isn't a Republican and isn't a "pundit", and is probably as conservative as Carville, but eleventy times as cantankerous), Gary Johnson, Roy Blount Jr, and John Dean.

// and my buddy who ran for an AG spot in PA as a Republican, but I wouldn't expect him to be well-known


So everybody against Johnson?
 
2014-02-07 12:07:22 PM  

Tricky Chicken: So everybody against Johnson?


It'd be less of a "left v right" and more of a coalition-style debate where every topic might have Brazile and Johnson on opposite sides, but the others would vacillate.

Anyway, might be more fun than "SE Cupp and Newt Gingrich Get Stupid and Inflammatory with Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones".
 
2014-02-07 12:10:08 PM  

Dr Dreidel: Tricky Chicken: So everybody against Johnson?

It'd be less of a "left v right" and more of a coalition-style debate where every topic might have Brazile and Johnson on opposite sides, but the others would vacillate.

Anyway, might be more fun than "SE Cupp and Newt Gingrich Get Stupid and Inflammatory with Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones".


I've never seen the new version of crossfire. I figured it would basically suck.
 
2014-02-07 12:13:45 PM  

sendtodave: Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?


Political consultants are hired guns. No shait Sherlock.
 
2014-02-07 12:20:08 PM  
cum-pundit

static.giantbomb.com
 
2014-02-07 12:22:25 PM  

Fart_Machine: sendtodave: Why would any self respecting Democrat work for Fox Ne...  What's that?  A huge bag of money, you say?

Political consultants are hired guns. No shait Sherlock.


That's the joke.

This is a non-story story.
 
2014-02-07 12:40:19 PM  
Is he going to leave his professorship for this?
 
2014-02-07 12:45:16 PM  

Tricky Chicken: dripping with sarcasm: Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.

He made his name with the Clinton campaign.

I wouldn't call bringing about the most influential Democrat presidental term since the 60's the actions of a sell out.


Anytime NAFTA, Walmart, China and deregulation of banking comes up, the left temporarily disowns Clinton. "He is no liberal" they will say, while sucking his knob in the next story.
 
2014-02-07 12:48:38 PM  

Nemo's Brother: Tricky Chicken: dripping with sarcasm: Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.

He made his name with the Clinton campaign.

I wouldn't call bringing about the most influential Democrat presidental term since the 60's the actions of a sell out.

Anytime NAFTA, Walmart, China and deregulation of banking comes up, the left temporarily disowns Clinton. "He is no liberal" they will say, while sucking his knob in the next story.



Conservatives: Throwing the baby out with the bath water since 1994.

You can like some of a politicians policies and dislike others. I think what you're getting confused is that NAFTA, etc. gets brought up to dispute the Conservative lie that Clinton is the most liberal President to ever liberal.
 
2014-02-07 12:57:01 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Dr Dreidel: Tricky Chicken: So everybody against Johnson?

It'd be less of a "left v right" and more of a coalition-style debate where every topic might have Brazile and Johnson on opposite sides, but the others would vacillate.

Anyway, might be more fun than "SE Cupp and Newt Gingrich Get Stupid and Inflammatory with Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones".

I've never seen the new version of crossfire. I figured it would basically suck.


media.portland.indymedia.org

There's a reason you don't try to bring things back from the dead. It's an abomination and against all that is good and pure.
 
2014-02-07 01:03:46 PM  

guestguy: cum-pundit


Said Ripley to the android Bishop. We're not doing "phrasing" anymore.
 
2014-02-07 01:08:57 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: A blathering loud mouth on a channel full of the them. Sounds like a perfect fit


This.
 
2014-02-07 01:11:31 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?


The right-wing created perception that he "flip flopped" any more than any other politician was part of it, along with the Swift-Boating. This is different from him actually being a "flip flopper" any more than any other politician, which he was not, but which Rove was very apt at creating a perception of.

Only an idiot believed that line. It just happens that i t got enough idiots out to vote.
 
2014-02-07 01:24:56 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.


You pretty much have to sell a candidate to pass the Conservative America Test. That means getting hired guns on your team even after you get into office.

And you'd better farking believe in God, too. No atheists in Oval Offices.
 
2014-02-07 01:38:48 PM  

Leishu: Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

The right-wing created perception that he "flip flopped" any more than any other politician was part of it, along with the Swift-Boating. This is different from him actually being a "flip flopper" any more than any other politician, which he was not, but which Rove was very apt at creating a perception of.

Only an idiot believed that line. It just happens that i t got enough idiots out to vote.


""I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it." - John Kerrey 2003
That line basically nailed that title to his forehead with one breath.
Only an idiot would delude themselves into thinking it didn't happen.

Or you could just look at that right wing propaganda site CBS I htink Rove was their editor.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/">http://www.c bsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/

Your memory of the time is inaccurate at best. Or you are a liar at worst.
 
2014-02-07 01:48:12 PM  
Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.
 
2014-02-07 01:50:59 PM  

Danger Mouse: Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.


You're really butthurt about Kerry for some reason. What, did he threaten to raise your taxes or something?
 
2014-02-07 01:55:08 PM  

Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.


I worked on Kerry's campaign and the man was an empty suit. There was no reason to vote FOR Kerry, only ahainst Bush. Obama won because there were reasons to vote FOR him, rather than 'because I hate the other guy.'
 
2014-02-07 01:57:26 PM  

The Lone Gunman: There was no reason to vote FOR Kerry, only ahainst Bush


I can go along with that, although at the time I also thought we'd have a sane Presidency for once. Apparently that wasn't enough.
 
2014-02-07 02:20:16 PM  

whidbey: Danger Mouse: Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.

You're really butthurt about Kerry for some reason. What, did he threaten to raise your taxes or something?


As a resident of MA I've had to live with this Douchebag in office since 1984. I've got extra specail Kerry butthurt.

My all time favorite was when he was caught registering his yacht in RI to avoid his own states luxary tax.
 
2014-02-07 02:20:50 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Granny_Panties: His wife is a Republican. I often wonder if he purposefully sunk John Kerry's Presidential run. I don't understand why Kerry hired him in the first place. The guy seems like a little sell out worm.

Wasn't he key in the Clinton victories? Not Sure.

If he was, that doesn't sound like a sell out to me.


If Kerry had won in 2004, Hillary couldn't have run in 2008.

Because Kerry lost in 2004, Hillary was the frontrunner and presumptive Dem nominee in 2008.

You do the math.

/all until those meddling kids Barack Obama came along and foiled the plan!
 
2014-02-07 05:29:58 PM  

Danger Mouse: whidbey: Danger Mouse: Remember when John Kerry said he threw his medals over the White House fence, only then to tell us that he didnt? The first of many flip flops.

You're really butthurt about Kerry for some reason. What, did he threaten to raise your taxes or something?

As a resident of MA I've had to live with this Douchebag in office since 1984. I've got extra specail Kerry butthurt.

My all time favorite was when he was caught registering his yacht in RI to avoid his own states luxary tax.


I dunno. The only non-right wing blog I could google (HuffPro) still made it sound like the incident was still a dumb witch hunt righties were slinging around.

That's really the worst you can throw at him?
 
2014-02-07 05:44:46 PM  
This was funny: Carville vs. Novak 2005 (NSFW because someone said a bad word ZOMFG)
 
2014-02-07 07:25:47 PM  

Nabb1: thewoodman: James Carville?  Most of the times he's a sputtering,eye blinking, erratic foil for whoever wants to make points against the Dems.

Really? You think so? The guy is sharp as a tack and is an excellent debater with a sharp wit. The thing about Carville is that he expresses and argues his own opinion, even when it doesn't toe any party line. If you think you could handle him one on one, I'd love to see you try.


He'd kick my ass!  What they do on Fox is not debating.  They don't let people answer questions, they jump around when they hear something they don't like, and it is usually 2 or 3 against one.  If Carville was given a chance to lay out what he thinks he would probably do real well, but that isn't going to happen.
 
2014-02-07 10:24:49 PM  
 
2014-02-07 11:53:54 PM  

Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Tricky Chicken: Leishu: Danger Mouse:  flip flopping


Heh. It's cute how you think playing that card doesn't make you look like a moron.

You think it does? that was wat sunk him.
just like Dukakis was sunk by 'i will raise your taxes'
Carter was sunk by 'malaise'
Dole was sunk by 'bob dole, bob dole'
Bush I was sunk by 'read my lips'

It is often a single perception that takes a candidate out.

For Kerry it was 'flip flops' or perhaps you don't understand the word moron?

The right-wing created perception that he "flip flopped" any more than any other politician was part of it, along with the Swift-Boating. This is different from him actually being a "flip flopper" any more than any other politician, which he was not, but which Rove was very apt at creating a perception of.

Only an idiot believed that line. It just happens that i t got enough idiots out to vote.

""I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it." - John Kerrey 2003
That line basically nailed that title to his forehead with one breath.
Only an idiot would delude themselves into thinking it didn't happen.

Or you could just look at that right wing propaganda site CBS I htink Rove was their editor.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/">http://www.c bsnews.com/news/kerrys-top-ten-flip-flops/

Your memory of the time is inaccurate at best. Or you are a liar at worst.


So... you think he flip-flopped more than other politicians? I'd just like to have this clarified so I can Farky you as "idiot" now and save myself the trouble of responding to your drivel.
 
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