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(Examiner)   Taking "The Tonight Show" away from Jay Leno is stupid--Jay ends last show as a class act without bitterness and telling his audience to watch Jimmy Fallon   (examiner.com) divider line 19
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2014-02-07 01:20:08 AM
What to the Vegas bookies think?

Leno knows this is it for him.  NBC farked Conan, and Leno took the brunt of it.

//Had to turn off Conan's doc on his Legally Prohibited tour, it showed a very (understandably) dark Conan
 
2014-02-07 01:23:10 AM
I'm noticing a certain headline pattern by whoever is submitting Examiner links ...
 
2014-02-07 01:39:47 AM
The guy that ran Carson out of a job? Boy, what a class act.
 
2014-02-07 01:43:18 AM

BSABSVR: The guy that ran Carson out of a job? Boy, what a class act.


he didn't run Carson out. he bumped Letterman out of taking Carsons place.
 
2014-02-07 01:53:53 AM
Following yet another brilliant monologue, he...
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2014-02-07 01:54:51 AM

log_jammin: BSABSVR: The guy that ran Carson out of a job? Boy, what a class act.

he didn't run Carson out. he bumped Letterman out of taking Carsons place.


He did both.  In 1991 Leno's publicist planted the rumors in the media that He was going to Take Carson's job in 1992. Carson was on the fence about retiring at the time, but after it became "known" that he would be leaving so Leno could take his place, he felt like he had to follow the script or destroy the Tonight Show.
 
2014-02-07 02:05:50 AM

HawgWild: I'm noticing a certain headline pattern by whoever is submitting Examiner links ...

 
2014-02-07 02:12:22 AM

BSABSVR: log_jammin: BSABSVR: The guy that ran Carson out of a job? Boy, what a class act.

he didn't run Carson out. he bumped Letterman out of taking Carsons place.

He did both.  In 1991 Leno's publicist planted the rumors in the media that He was going to Take Carson's job in 1992. Carson was on the fence about retiring at the time, but after it became "known" that he would be leaving so Leno could take his place, he felt like he had to follow the script or destroy the Tonight Show.


I always thought it was NBC that ran Carson off in order to attract a younger audience to the 11:30 slot and either bring Letterman in or Leno.

To be honest, I've only watched a total of 4 Tonight's with Leno, the 1st after Carson, the last before Conan, the first after Conan, and tonight. I just never thought much of him as a host.

Same for Letterman. I've only watched maybe 3 episodes after he left NBC. I watched Late Night religiously in the 80s when he hosted.
 
2014-02-07 02:41:31 AM

BSABSVR: In 1991 Leno's publicist planted the rumors in the media that He was going to Take Carson's job in 1992.


he must have done it early in 91, since Carson announced his retirement in may of 91.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=266&dat=19910525&id=d9wrAAAAIB AJ &sjid=imQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1784,2649028

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think anybody forced Carson to do anything. ever. The network bent to his will every time.
 
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2014-02-07 02:44:08 AM

log_jammin: BSABSVR: In 1991 Leno's publicist planted the rumors in the media that He was going to Take Carson's job in 1992.

he must have done it early in 91, since Carson announced his retirement in may of 91.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=266&dat=19910525&id=d9wrAAAAIB AJ &sjid=imQFAAAAIBAJ&pg=1784,2649028

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I don't think anybody forced Carson to do anything. ever. The network bent to his will every time.


Judges forced Carson to write a crapload of alimony checks.
 
2014-02-07 02:47:17 AM

jbc: Judges forced Carson to write a crapload of alimony checks.


ok. you win.
 
2014-02-07 02:52:14 AM
I've heard the story that Jay helped force Carson out too, but I can't remember the details, thank god, I know enough useless stuff.

and I don't know what drugs the subby is on but he did leave in a classy and emotional way. I may not have liked him but he obviously loved the show.
 
2014-02-07 06:22:51 AM

Frederick: HawgWild: I'm noticing a certain headline pattern by whoever is submitting Examiner links ...


Are we talking about Wampler? I really hope it's not Wampler...
 
2014-02-07 07:33:54 AM
I missed it. Was he at least funny for his last show?
 
2014-02-07 07:45:49 AM

Confabulat: I've heard the story that Jay helped force Carson out too, but I can't remember the details, thank god, I know enough useless stuff.

and I don't know what drugs the subby is on but he did leave in a classy and emotional way. I may not have liked him but he obviously loved the show.


IIRC, Dave all but officially had the gig when Johnny decided to go ahead and retire.  Leno's coont of an agent saw Johnny's #s sagging in the younger demos and started a behind-the-back media leak and arm-bending campaign to push Dave out and get Jay in. Jay helped.
His 'good guy' act is just that.
 
2014-02-07 08:04:57 AM

grokca: I missed it. Was he at least funny for his last show?


FTFA: "Following yet another brilliant monologue, ..."

So, no.
 
2014-02-07 08:19:08 AM
The headline makes my brain hurt.
 
2014-02-07 08:21:23 AM
Good article on Grantland about Jay leaving (for reals this time?  no more coming back like Jason?):

"Using Nielsen ratings as a metric, The Tonight Show remains the most successful program in late night. But when was the last time you saw one of Leno's bits retweeted into your feed? Have you ever seen one? If so, who in the hell are you following?"

And that got me thinking - who are the boomers going to fall asleep to now?  Dave is still too edgy for them - which is funny if you factor in Letterman being 3 years older than Leno.  Fallon / Conan / Jimmy are too hip.  Arsenio.... ok, I'll stop right there.

Maybe the boomers will take this as a sign that yes, they are in fact going to die off some day?
 
2014-02-07 08:26:49 AM

swankywanky: Good article on Grantland about Jay leaving (for reals this time?  no more coming back like Jason?):

"Using Nielsen ratings as a metric, The Tonight Show remains the most successful program in late night. But when was the last time you saw one of Leno's bits retweeted into your feed? Have you ever seen one? If so, who in the hell are you following?"

And that got me thinking - who are the boomers going to fall asleep to now?  Dave is still too edgy for them - which is funny if you factor in Letterman being 3 years older than Leno.  Fallon / Conan / Jimmy are too hip.  Arsenio.... ok, I'll stop right there.

Maybe the boomers will take this as a sign that yes, they are in fact going to die off some day?


Or, this coming Monday night, 10 minutes after not being able to tell if Stephen Colbert is for real, the nationwide rampant acts of vampirism begin.
 
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