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(KTAR Phoenix)   Interesting: Skinny Puppy was one of the bands the military used to torture inmates at Guantanamo Bay. Obvious: Now Skinny Puppy wants the the military to pay for the rights to use it. Silly: They want $666,000   (ktar.com ) divider line 78
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2014-02-07 01:17:12 PM  
If they really want to torture someone they should have used Morrissey.
 
2014-02-07 01:32:01 PM  
What the military's response to Skinny Puppy's suit might look like...

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2014-02-07 01:32:52 PM  

give me doughnuts: The article is pretty information-free.
What alleged copyright violations took place?
Is the band claiming that the songs played at the Guantanamo Bay prison were unlawfully downloaded?
Are they claiming there is an implied obligation that their musin not be played at an unwilling audience?

What harm did Skinny Puppy suffer that needs to be redressed?


Their music was used in a manner that had ethical and moral connotations. Since none of the band members were asked for permission or compensated, this does actually violate the implied obligation to not use other people's stuff to violate what may be their ethical or moral lines in the sand.

In other words: Don't use people's art, even shiatty art, to hurt people. This is definitely an implied rule, and the government needs its ass kicked for violating it.
 
Ant
2014-02-07 01:47:21 PM  

Evil Mackerel: If they really want to torture someone they should have used Morrissey.


♫Allah knows I'm miserable now♫
 
2014-02-07 01:55:10 PM  

Ant: Evil Mackerel: If they really want to torture someone they should have used Morrissey.

♫Allah knows I'm miserable now♫


Stop me if you think you've heard this one before...

/Over and over and over and over....
 
2014-02-07 02:20:48 PM  

NutWrench: proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....

Copyright infringement is a terrible, terrible crime. It's exactly the same as stealing.
Don't you care about the law and justice and stuff?

/you wouldn't download an aircraft carrier, would you?


I tried but all I got was that stupid Battleship movie!
 
2014-02-07 02:22:23 PM  
There's a lot of metal bands that would love to have this sort of reputation for their music.

Ulver's probably not one of them, but I'm thinking Nattens Madrigal would be a better sonic weapon:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57pPK9LIa34&list=PL907E3EBEBB6A295A
 
2014-02-07 02:40:17 PM  

Green Smoke: There's a lot of metal bands that would love to have this sort of reputation for their music.


Deicide was quite proud of it. There was a big banner at the top of their myspace page (yes, this story is that old) declaring "The US military uses our music to torture prisoners."
 
2014-02-07 02:57:24 PM  

Valiente: I'm sorry, is copyright law only for Disney characters now?


This.  Maybe if the Gummint gets held up for "commercial use" of music without permission, then it will start to take the matter seriously when the rest of us get butt-farked by similar circumstances.
 
2014-02-07 03:50:26 PM  

jigger: Green Smoke: There's a lot of metal bands that would love to have this sort of reputation for their music.

Deicide was quite proud of it. There was a big banner at the top of their myspace page (yes, this story is that old) declaring "The US military uses our music to torture prisoners."


Skinny Puppy never had any love for the right wing in America. You can tell even as far back as the 80's sampling Reagan in a "not good overtone". They didn't support either Iraq war during the Bush I and II years and were quite vocal/visual about it live.
 
2014-02-07 04:15:48 PM  

No Such Agency: jpo2269: Good luck with that arseholes.. You probably shouldn't spend the money just yet..

(Joker burning cash.jpg)

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message."

Skinny Puppy are rightfully pissed that their art was used to brutalize political prisoners in a Gulag run by the world's most powerful "democracy".


Seriously. And how the hell does that make Skinny Puppy the "arseholes"?

Man, some people just love the taste of boot.
 
2014-02-07 04:20:25 PM  
Skinny Puppy have been vigorously ANTI-TORTURE (and anti-animal testing) for, like, well, ever since they existed.

So yeah, having their music used to TORTURE would not sit right at all with them.

/second the 'Anger' comment above
// or "The Mourn".... pretty much anything short off of 'Cleanse, Fold, Manipulate'
 
2014-02-07 04:23:33 PM  

pxlboy: Walt_Jizzney: Skinny Puppy: Kings of the "T-Shirt Bands" back in the late 80's early 90's.

/swears they sold more t-shirts than albums.
//They had a few cool tracks though.

I saw them here in Atlanta on Tuesday, and ALL of the shirts at the merch booth were sold out.

You might be on to something.


The Residents claimed that The Rolling Stones were the best T-Shirt salesmen on the planet.
 
2014-02-07 04:38:16 PM  
Who?
 
2014-02-07 05:11:59 PM  

ObscureNameHere: Skinny Puppy have been vigorously ANTI-TORTURE (and anti-animal testing) for, like, well, ever since they existed.

So yeah, having their music used to TORTURE would not sit right at all with them.

/second the 'Anger' comment above
// or "The Mourn".... pretty much anything short off of 'Cleanse, Fold, Manipulate'


Shiat, we used CFaM to clear out the record store before closing.

/Lawn. Off.
 
2014-02-07 05:47:20 PM  

Anastacya: Rev. Skarekroe: proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....

Exactly.  When's the last time Skinny Puppy got any press outside the alt-music scene? (The answer is probably the mid '90s when Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose.)

They had a song released a couple years ago that was about beating the shiat out of someone. Can't think of the name of it, but I used it in my track list for PvPing.

/hates the Horde


Blasphemous Alliance scum ;P
 
2014-02-07 05:56:29 PM  
 
2014-02-07 05:57:19 PM  
Now everyone will remember that there was a band named Skinny Puppy  .
 
2014-02-07 06:12:04 PM  

ShadowWolf: Rodent Remix


Strange, I just picked up Wild Planet for .99. This week.
 
2014-02-07 06:32:26 PM  

Aigoo: Anastacya: Rev. Skarekroe: proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....

Exactly.  When's the last time Skinny Puppy got any press outside the alt-music scene? (The answer is probably the mid '90s when Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose.)

They had a song released a couple years ago that was about beating the shiat out of someone. Can't think of the name of it, but I used it in my track list for PvPing.

/hates the Horde

Blasphemous Alliance scum ;P


Haha!!!
 
2014-02-07 07:15:05 PM  

Salmon: Seeing them in Vancouver on the 28th.


Seattle on the 1st

/for my birthday
//it's like an omen
///made of tin
 
2014-02-07 07:57:40 PM  
I'll lift a pint for you.

Neknomination to Smothered Hopes.
 
2014-02-08 01:15:11 AM  
Skinny Puppy fan of 20 years here!
It'd make sense, because many of their songs are against military violence ('VX Gas Attack' comes to mind) and about all sorts of atrocities of the time. It just stuns me that SP is actually in a news headline here, and that the military would use their music to torture people (well, considering that radical Muslim extremists would definitely see it as music coming straight out of the devil's mouth) is a trip in and of itself.

They did this with Deicide's music years back, and all Glen Benton said was 'Awesome!'.

PS, anyone else hear heard SP's 'Weapon' album?
 
2014-02-08 01:44:31 AM  

kling_klang_bed: Skinny Puppy fan of 20 years here!
It'd make sense, because many of their songs are against military violence ('VX Gas Attack' comes to mind) and about all sorts of atrocities of the time. It just stuns me that SP is actually in a news headline here, and that the military would use their music to torture people (well, considering that radical Muslim extremists would definitely see it as music coming straight out of the devil's mouth) is a trip in and of itself.

They did this with Deicide's music years back, and all Glen Benton said was 'Awesome!'.

PS, anyone else hear heard SP's 'Weapon' album?


Great album! Missed them due to work commitments on January 31 here in Dallas, I've seen them plenty of times though, always a fun show, that assaults one's eardrums.
 
2014-02-08 01:59:24 AM  

skyshooter: kling_klang_bed: Skinny Puppy fan of 20 years here!
It'd make sense, because many of their songs are against military violence ('VX Gas Attack' comes to mind) and about all sorts of atrocities of the time. It just stuns me that SP is actually in a news headline here, and that the military would use their music to torture people (well, considering that radical Muslim extremists would definitely see it as music coming straight out of the devil's mouth) is a trip in and of itself.

They did this with Deicide's music years back, and all Glen Benton said was 'Awesome!'.

PS, anyone else hear heard SP's 'Weapon' album?

Great album! Missed them due to work commitments on January 31 here in Dallas, I've seen them plenty of times though, always a fun show, that assaults one's eardrums.


I still remember back in '97, I got 'Ain't It Dead' on my girlfriend's suggestion. Wooooooooooooah............. that album went way beyond what I thought music was and could be. And thus a months long spree of getting all their CD's! (hey, I had enough allowance to get one CD a week, and DLing was unheard of at that time).
Had the chance to interview Cevin Key about 'The Dragon Experience' CD, but sadly (and unsadly), by the time I got the questions to him, SP was a few days away from touring for 'Greater Wrong Of The Right'.

Sadly, never seen them live. :-(
 
2014-02-08 02:21:17 AM  

Wake Up Sheeple: They should challenge the US government to a breakdancing competiti

give me doughnuts: The article is pretty information-free.
What alleged copyright violations took place?
Is the band claiming that the songs played at the Guantanamo Bay prison were unlawfully downloaded?
Are they claiming there is an implied obligation that their musin not be played at an unwilling audience?

What harm did Skinny Puppy suffer that needs to be redressed?


Eh, it's publicity, I think the number amount says that much. It'd be so ridiculously expensive to try to go through with a federal lawsuit. Couldn't the US government send Bieber and Carlie Ray Simon off to Canada (and soon send them off into the Northern parts of the Bellary Islands), and we get Skinny Puppy, Rush, Into Eternity, Anvil, Frontline Assembly, and good maple syrup in return?
 
2014-02-08 03:14:46 AM  
I'm seeing them when they come to Denver in a couple of weeks.  The 24th I think, need to check the tix.
 
2014-02-08 12:51:51 PM  
Did the military steal the CD or MP3?

No?

Then EFF Off!
 
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