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(KTAR Phoenix)   Interesting: Skinny Puppy was one of the bands the military used to torture inmates at Guantanamo Bay. Obvious: Now Skinny Puppy wants the the military to pay for the rights to use it. Silly: They want $666,000   (ktar.com) divider line 78
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2014-02-07 08:59:44 AM
Good luck with that arseholes.. You probably shouldn't spend the money just yet..
 
2014-02-07 09:00:26 AM
I thought for sure it would have been a mixture of Nickleback, Creed, and Black Sabbath
 
2014-02-07 09:01:32 AM

jpo2269: Good luck with that arseholes.. You probably shouldn't spend the money just yet..


FTFA: While Skinny Puppy is not expecting reimbursement from the federal government, they are looking into their legal options.

Stupid is a good look for you.
 
2014-02-07 09:02:11 AM
I'm sorry, is copyright law only for Disney characters now?
 
2014-02-07 09:03:32 AM
Ram Jam is still waiting for their royalty checks from the US invasion of Panama. They used Black Betty to get Noriega out of his house


/hey black betty amberlamps
 
2014-02-07 09:04:47 AM
interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....
 
2014-02-07 09:07:34 AM
VIVIsectVI was put in to use by the US government. The billing is appropriate.

/Welcome to the morning news.....
 
2014-02-07 09:09:08 AM

proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....


Copyright infringement is a terrible, terrible crime. It's exactly the same as stealing.
Don't you care about the law and justice and stuff?

/you wouldn't download an aircraft carrier, would you?
 
2014-02-07 09:11:59 AM

proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....


Exactly.  When's the last time Skinny Puppy got any press outside the alt-music scene? (The answer is probably the mid '90s when Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose.)
 
2014-02-07 09:17:37 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....

Exactly.  When's the last time Skinny Puppy got any press outside the alt-music scene? (The answer is probably the mid '90s when Dwayne Goettel died of a heroin overdose.)


They had a song released a couple years ago that was about beating the shiat out of someone. Can't think of the name of it, but I used it in my track list for PvPing.

/hates the Horde
 
2014-02-07 09:19:01 AM
Fine, but you've got to come down to Gitmo to collect.
 
2014-02-07 09:20:29 AM
They should challenge the US government to a breakdancing competition.
 
2014-02-07 09:24:45 AM

Wake Up Sheeple: They should challenge the US government to a breakdancing competition.


Boooo!

/That video was a friggin mistake...
 
2014-02-07 09:27:00 AM

give me doughnuts: Fine, but you've got to come down to Gitmo to collect.


Why don't you just arrange a pick-up...oh, sorry..."rendition"?
 
2014-02-07 09:28:40 AM
Skinny Puppy: Kings of the "T-Shirt Bands" back in the late 80's early 90's.

/swears they sold more t-shirts than albums.
//They had a few cool tracks though.
 
2014-02-07 09:29:35 AM

Valiente: I'm sorry, is copyright law only for Disney characters now?


Pretty much, the US supreme court ruled in Price v. United States: "The United States, as [a] sovereign, 'is immune from suit save as it consents to be sued " in the labyrinthine mess that is the DMCA the US left itself a exemption for use of copyrighted materials in national defense, thus good luck to them on that suit.
 
2014-02-07 09:37:29 AM
Hmmm...interesting.  In HS, we used to call Skinny Puppy "music to murder by".  So, apparently, it makes a good soundtrack for a slaying.
 
2014-02-07 09:49:59 AM
Now paging brap, please report to thread 8132962...
 
2014-02-07 09:50:58 AM
If we're going to be assholes to everyone else about copyright, then we have to be consistent.
 
2014-02-07 09:57:14 AM
They could've used this instead:

ytims.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-07 09:58:33 AM
Now is the only thing tha's real.
 
2014-02-07 09:59:37 AM
The article is pretty information-free.
What alleged copyright violations took place?
Is the band claiming that the songs played at the Guantanamo Bay prison were unlawfully downloaded?
Are they claiming there is an implied obligation that their musin not be played at an unwilling audience?

What harm did Skinny Puppy suffer that needs to be redressed?
 
2014-02-07 10:11:00 AM

give me doughnuts: The article is pretty information-free.
What alleged copyright violations took place?
Is the band claiming that the songs played at the Guantanamo Bay prison were unlawfully downloaded?
Are they claiming there is an implied obligation that their musin not be played at an unwilling audience?

What harm did Skinny Puppy suffer that needs to be redressed?


Linky

Even more detail from link within.
 
2014-02-07 10:19:02 AM
arab's crash fixation
alleging mass destruction
interrogation without guilt

mosque erection
bombs away
fighter jets round the skies
how wrong

Iraqis thrashed
ethics vacant
stress positions
CIA role play 

down to the shores of Gitmo
down to the shores of Gitmo
 
2014-02-07 10:20:12 AM

Your Hind Brain: give me doughnuts: The article is pretty information-free.
What alleged copyright violations took place?
Is the band claiming that the songs played at the Guantanamo Bay prison were unlawfully downloaded?
Are they claiming there is an implied obligation that their musin not be played at an unwilling audience?

What harm did Skinny Puppy suffer that needs to be redressed?
Linky
Even more detail from link within.


So Gitmo is open to the public, free for others to gather at?

Themoreyouknow.jpg
 
2014-02-07 10:25:23 AM

legion_of_doo: Your Hind Brain: give me doughnuts: The article is pretty information-free.
What alleged copyright violations took place?
Is the band claiming that the songs played at the Guantanamo Bay prison were unlawfully downloaded?
Are they claiming there is an implied obligation that their musin not be played at an unwilling audience?

What harm did Skinny Puppy suffer that needs to be redressed?
Linky
Even more detail from link within.

So Gitmo is open to the public, free for others to gather at?

Themoreyouknow.jpg


Oh yeah, you're right.

No additional license is required to privately view a movie or other copyrighted work with a few friends and family or in certain narrowly defined face-to-face teaching activities.
 
2014-02-07 10:44:37 AM

Your Hind Brain: They could've used this instead:

[ytims.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]


Bad idea.  That album was recorded with the intention of summoning demons.  God only knows what would have happened.
 
2014-02-07 10:45:30 AM
Who's Laughing Now?
 
2014-02-07 10:46:04 AM
That's ironic in so many ways. I'm not sure I could disentangle the ironies in a book.

The biggest irony may be that copyright is being used against torturers, not ten year olds who download a song they'll love for a couple of weeks but wouldn't and couldn't buy in a thousand years. The US Government is certainly guilty of aiding and abetting copyright trolls and squatters, while torture violates the letter and the spirit of the Constitution, the laws, and the stated principles of every US government.

Read the CIA website for children and they will tell you that they never do assassinations, overthrow elected governments, or torture or other international and domestic crimes. Perhaps there are dim children who would believe this if they ever visited the CIA website.

Well, I'm off to listen to some electro-industrial. Maybe Skinny Puppy has something worth 99 cents.
 
2014-02-07 10:58:36 AM

NutWrench: proteus_b: interesting kind of notoriety. while i don't expect they should collect a cent from the government, it might be worth a bit of free publicity for them....

Copyright infringement is a terrible, terrible crime. It's exactly the same as stealing.
Don't you care about the law and justice and stuff?

/you wouldn't download an aircraft carrier, would you?


I'm 3D printing the USS Carl Vinson right now.
 
2014-02-07 11:13:07 AM

Walt_Jizzney: Skinny Puppy: Kings of the "T-Shirt Bands" back in the late 80's early 90's.

/swears they sold more t-shirts than albums.
//They had a few cool tracks though.


I saw them here in Atlanta on Tuesday, and ALL of the shirts at the merch booth were sold out.

You might be on to something.
 
Ant
2014-02-07 11:15:07 AM
This brings back some good memories, but I can see how it might be torture for someone who's not a fan.

Assimilate (Live 1986)
 
2014-02-07 11:15:24 AM

brantgoose: That's ironic in so many ways. I'm not sure I could disentangle the ironies in a book.

The biggest irony may be that copyright is being used against torturers, not ten year olds who download a song they'll love for a couple of weeks but wouldn't and couldn't buy in a thousand years. The US Government is certainly guilty of aiding and abetting copyright trolls and squatters, while torture violates the letter and the spirit of the Constitution, the laws, and the stated principles of every US government.

Read the CIA website for children and they will tell you that they never do assassinations, overthrow elected governments, or torture or other international and domestic crimes. Perhaps there are dim children who would believe this if they ever visited the CIA website.

Well, I'm off to listen to some electro-industrial. Maybe Skinny Puppy has something worth 99 cents.




Skinny Puppy - Worlock
 
2014-02-07 11:18:31 AM
I taught the killing game first. FIRST. First.
 
2014-02-07 11:18:48 AM

Rev. Skarekroe: Your Hind Brain: They could've used this instead:

[ytims.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]

Bad idea.  That album was recorded with the intention of summoning demons.  God only knows what would have happened.


Maybe that's what went wrong with me. I feel asleep to it quite often.
 
2014-02-07 11:20:18 AM

Your Hind Brain: Rev. Skarekroe: Your Hind Brain: They could've used this instead:

[ytims.files.wordpress.com image 297x300]

Bad idea.  That album was recorded with the intention of summoning demons.  God only knows what would have happened.

Maybe that's what went wrong with me. I feel asleep to it quite often.


"fell"

Yep, that's what happened.
 
Ant
2014-02-07 11:20:42 AM

Walt_Jizzney: Skinny Puppy: Kings of the "T-Shirt Bands" back in the late 80's early 90's.

/swears they sold more t-shirts than albums.
//They had a few cool tracks though.


I thought that was Einstürzende Neubauten. They had some pretty cool shirts, but their 'music' sucked.

/was a Skinny Puppy fanatic in the 80s - early 90s
 
2014-02-07 11:26:13 AM
Seeing them in Vancouver on the 28th.
 
2014-02-07 11:40:52 AM
He's seeing Monsters. He's losing his mind and he feels it going.
 
2014-02-07 11:41:17 AM

pxlboy: brantgoose: That's ironic in so many ways. I'm not sure I could disentangle the ironies in a book.

The biggest irony may be that copyright is being used against torturers, not ten year olds who download a song they'll love for a couple of weeks but wouldn't and couldn't buy in a thousand years. The US Government is certainly guilty of aiding and abetting copyright trolls and squatters, while torture violates the letter and the spirit of the Constitution, the laws, and the stated principles of every US government.

Read the CIA website for children and they will tell you that they never do assassinations, overthrow elected governments, or torture or other international and domestic crimes. Perhaps there are dim children who would believe this if they ever visited the CIA website.

Well, I'm off to listen to some electro-industrial. Maybe Skinny Puppy has something worth 99 cents.

Skinny Puppy - Worlock



Skinny Puppy's best video
 
2014-02-07 11:51:42 AM
FTFA...

Canadian industrial band ...

All I needed to see to know that this is outside the bounds of the Geneva Convention.
 
2014-02-07 11:56:27 AM
Sarah McLachlan wouldn't have been as effective unles it was one of those animal cruelty commecials.
 
2014-02-07 11:58:34 AM
www.1057thexrocks.com

... and it's true (good tune, too)
 
2014-02-07 11:59:55 AM
And damn right too. Every other useless piece of equipment used by the military is so completely mind bogglingly overpriced that I`m sure the price there is in line with that pricing scale.
 
2014-02-07 12:16:26 PM
I SAID THIS IN THE LAST THREAD!!!!
 
2014-02-07 12:20:42 PM

Sasquach: I SAID THIS IN THE LAST THREAD!!!!


That was on a Wednesday. This is a Friday. There's a difference.
 
2014-02-07 12:39:11 PM
I am a big fan of music, but Skinny Puppy is terrible.  I have a bad association with it though.  An ex roommate who decided it was more important to drop acid and listen to that shiat than pay rent was a big fan.  He was also an asshole.  kinda taints the whole mess.
 
2014-02-07 12:52:26 PM

jpo2269: Good luck with that arseholes.. You probably shouldn't spend the money just yet..


(Joker burning cash.jpg)

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message."

Skinny Puppy are rightfully pissed that their art was used to brutalize political prisoners in a Gulag run by the world's most powerful "democracy".
 
2014-02-07 12:53:40 PM
Asshole tainted mess?
 
2014-02-07 01:03:44 PM

No Such Agency: jpo2269: Good luck with that arseholes.. You probably shouldn't spend the money just yet..

(Joker burning cash.jpg)

"It's not about the money, it's about sending a message."

Skinny Puppy are rightfully pissed that their art was used to brutalize political prisoners in a Gulag run by the world's most powerful "democracy".


Maybe next time someone decides to filibuster, the building could be locked and have Anger played repeatedly for 36 hours.
 
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