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(Boston.com)   Ultra-liberal Massachusetts democrats cover up fellow democrat's crimes while saying GOP is just as bad. Wait, they kicked him out on his ass? Never mind then   (boston.com) divider line 102
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2014-02-06 05:25:29 PM  
But House leaders argued for the integrity of the institution, insisted that Henriquez's confinement would prevent him from discharging the duties of his office

Oh c'mon, he can cast votes from a prison cell, can't he?
 
2014-02-06 06:31:34 PM  
This is just to lull the republicans into a false sense of disbelief.
 
2014-02-06 06:47:48 PM  
Have you ever noticed how right-wing pundits like Bill O'Really call everyone to their left "ultra-liberal" and "far-left?" As if you're either a common-sense conservative or a radical extremist liberal.
 
2014-02-06 07:12:37 PM  

a particular individual: Have you ever noticed how right-wing pundits like Bill O'Really call everyone to their left "ultra-liberal" and "far-left?" As if you're either a common-sense conservative or a radical extremist liberal.


That's because Bill O'Reilly is an actor who carries on a shameful role of deception in order to cash in on the relatively unimaginative mind space of the far right.
 
2014-02-06 07:13:57 PM  

a particular individual: Have you ever noticed how right-wing pundits like Bill O'Really call everyone to their left "ultra-liberal" and "far-left?" As if you're either a common-sense conservative or a radical extremist liberal.


Damn right - now let's go rock the People's Collective Army, and start that bake sale, and fund that library, Comrades!!
 
2014-02-06 07:15:17 PM  
It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican
 
2014-02-06 07:21:39 PM  

Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican


it's not amazing it's horrifying; the republican ethics committee is too busy banging blow while they mansplain rape to notice.

no, it's amazing that the democratic party has shown ongoing sense -- and that should be rewarded.

Limbaugh looks at all of this, and just thinks... "amateurs"

/meanwhile a minority that even looks at a cop wrong is going to jail on a flawed technicality, every time you betcha
 
2014-02-06 07:24:37 PM  
The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.
 
2014-02-06 07:25:15 PM  

Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican


Like Charlie Rangle...
 
2014-02-06 07:25:37 PM  
Both sides are same.

It's funny how the party that doesn't berate you with morality and personal responsibility is most often the one to display those qualities.
 
2014-02-06 07:27:00 PM  

Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican


It's really about covering their own asses.  If the GOP were to start kicking people out of their party for wrong-doing, how long before 'they' would be kicked out when their own misdeeds come to light?
 
2014-02-06 07:28:21 PM  

Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican


In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.
 
2014-02-06 07:29:07 PM  

Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican


There are assholes in every ideology, but the GOP insists on letting theirs get the spotlight.
 
2014-02-06 07:34:43 PM  

OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.


Citation please.
 
2014-02-06 07:36:40 PM  

2wolves: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

Citation please.


I'm pretty sure using the term "beg" and "NAACP" in the same sentence will get you in a lot of trouble with the brothers.
 
2014-02-06 07:41:08 PM  
Kudos to subby for correctly using "democrat" with a lowercase d.
 
2014-02-06 07:41:59 PM  

Pants full of macaroni!!: Kudos to subby for correctly using "democrat" with a lowercase d.


You are like the opposite of a grammar Nazi.
 
2014-02-06 07:42:43 PM  

OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.


NAACP =/= Democratic Party.

Also, citation
 
2014-02-06 07:43:22 PM  

mrshowrules: Pants full of macaroni!!: Kudos to subby for correctly using "democrat" with a lowercase d.

You are like the opposite of a grammar Nazi.


Well DUH.  Nazis are Liberal Commies, everyone knows that.
 
2014-02-06 07:44:33 PM  

OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.


I would have voted no. While I concede that the House has the power to do what it did I think the vote was misguided. The ultimate repository of power in a democracy lies with the people. Let his constituents recall him and vote him out of office if what he did was so bad.
 
2014-02-06 07:45:16 PM  

mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.


To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.
 
2014-02-06 07:49:24 PM  
Yeah, but Elizabeth Warren is part eggplant. So both sides are plaid.
 
2014-02-06 07:51:47 PM  

MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.


I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.
 
2014-02-06 07:56:36 PM  

mrshowrules: MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.

I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.


Well, it's a good thing you're not in charge of anything important, isn't it?

Shall I now summarily assume that you're a rapist/molester?
 
2014-02-06 07:58:03 PM  

OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.


That's not what TFA says. TFA says they couldn't find a legal basis in the MA House rules to expel a member for this. And nothing in TFA says there is. I can certainly understand how they would want to keep a convicted criminal from serving. But precisely for that reason there should already be a very carefully and specifically enumerated power to expel someone from office. Otherwise it sounds like you can expel someone for any reason that you can convince enough people to believe.
 
2014-02-06 08:00:49 PM  

Infernalist: mrshowrules: MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.

I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.

Well, it's a good thing you're not in charge of anything important, isn't it?

Shall I now summarily assume that you're a rapist/molester?


Do you need a criminal conviction to fire someone?
 
2014-02-06 08:02:20 PM  
I love my state.
 
2014-02-06 08:02:20 PM  

mrshowrules: MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.

I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.


Though I might agree with the crooked nature if Senator Menendez, the standard for congressional expulsion or censure cannot and should not be "he seems crooked". It's a slippery slope to McCarthyism.
A conviction by a jury of his peers is a sufficient line to draw here.
 
2014-02-06 08:06:09 PM  

mrshowrules: Infernalist: mrshowrules: MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.

I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.

Well, it's a good thing you're not in charge of anything important, isn't it?

Shall I now summarily assume that you're a rapist/molester?

Do you need a criminal conviction to fire someone?


From a private business or institution? Maybe, maybe not. From a Government institution like a legislature? Probably.
 
2014-02-06 08:08:52 PM  
Good for them.  I'm a Republican and it bothers me that my party has lowered its ethical standards to the point that Newt Gingrich could be considered a presidential contender.
 
2014-02-06 08:10:47 PM  

2wolves: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

Citation please.


coeyagi: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

NAACP =/= Democratic Party.

Also, citation


Read TFA.
 
2014-02-06 08:16:03 PM  

OgreMagi: 2wolves: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

Citation please.

coeyagi: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

NAACP =/= Democratic Party.

Also, citation

Read TFA.


The article does not say 'begged', they wanted due process.

I beg that you stay in this thread and by due diligence prove yourself a shill.
 
2014-02-06 08:20:15 PM  

crab66: Both sides are same.

It's funny how the party that doesn't berate you with morality and personal responsibility is most often the one to display those qualities.


You scream about the things you're afraid of being caught at.
 
2014-02-06 08:26:48 PM  
I was told both sides are bad
 
2014-02-06 08:37:31 PM  

mrshowrules: Infernalist: mrshowrules: MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.

I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.

Well, it's a good thing you're not in charge of anything important, isn't it?

Shall I now summarily assume that you're a rapist/molester?

Do you need a criminal conviction to fire someone?


Allegations aren't enough to remove someone from office.
 
2014-02-06 08:39:58 PM  

OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.


i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-06 08:44:00 PM  

Infernalist: mrshowrules: Infernalist: mrshowrules: MetryPapi: mrshowrules: Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican

In general I agree but why is Senator Bob Menendez still around.

To my knowledge he has not been convicted of anything. His last accusation, brought on by then Attny General Chris Christie, was found baseless.

That's not to say that if he is found guilty he shouldn't be kicked out. But the conviction is the difference here.

I don't require a conviction to tell me when someone is a crook.  I don't need one from Christie or Menendez to know that they are crooks.  Menendez took a straight out bribes.  Admitted to taking the gifts and then "repaid" the "loan" after getting caught.

Basically the same as Bob McDonnell who is currently being charged. I'm a Liberal but I don't underestimate the corruption under the DNC also.

Well, it's a good thing you're not in charge of anything important, isn't it?

Shall I now summarily assume that you're a rapist/molester?

Do you need a criminal conviction to fire someone?

Allegations aren't enough to remove someone from office.


FTFA: "Although a jury found me guilty ... it does not change my truth."
 
2014-02-06 08:48:12 PM  
Submitter is either a troll or a dumbass. Democrats are not ultra-liberal. The Democrat Party would be the conservative party in almost any other nation on Earth.

And Republicans would be the fascists.
 
2014-02-06 09:34:48 PM  

Summoner101: It's amazing how much lower the threshold is to kick out a Democrat than it is to kick out a Republican


Is it?  According to wikipedia, there hasn't been a single expulsion from the US congress since the civil war (when a bunch of southern sympathizers got kicked) and of the people that have resigned to avoid expulsion, there's a precise even split, two Democrats and two Republicans.

The takeaway is that it's really bloody hard to fire a politician, apparently.

I don't quite have the energy to sift through all the state expulsion records, but it seems fairly even in the corruption department, there.  I mean, both sides aren't equal in general, but that's a matter of one party explicitly trying to cater to stupid people, it's not a matter of one being more corrupt than the other.
 
2014-02-06 09:40:12 PM  

OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.


That's it. I'm voting for George Zimmerman.
 
2014-02-06 09:45:59 PM  

Captain Dan: I'm a Republican


Not trying to troll, but why? I am honestly curious as to what keeps seemingly-rational people self-identifying as Republican in 2014.
 
2014-02-06 09:49:19 PM  

Somacandra: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

That's not what TFA says. TFA says they couldn't find a legal basis in the MA House rules to expel a member for this. And nothing in TFA says there is. I can certainly understand how they would want to keep a convicted criminal from serving. But precisely for that reason there should already be a very carefully and specifically enumerated power to expel someone from office. Otherwise it sounds like you can expel someone for any reason that you can convince enough people to believe.


Correct me if I'm mistaken, but can't the senate pretty much impeach whoever it wants, for whatever reasons, provided they have sufficient votes to do so? Isn't that the way it works?
 
2014-02-06 09:52:44 PM  

OgreMagi: 2wolves: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

Citation please.

coeyagi: OgreMagi: The NAACP begged them to let the bastard stay in office.

NAACP =/= Democratic Party.

Also, citation

Read TFA.


I did.  You're trying to blow smoke up my ass and I'm not having any of it.
 
2014-02-06 09:54:58 PM  

machoprogrammer: Submitter is either a troll or a dumbass. Democrats are not ultra-liberal. The Democrat Party would be the conservative party in almost any other nation on Earth.

And Republicans would be the fascists.


Ultra liberal in their minds is not fantasizing about sucking Reagan's cock every time Red Dawn comes on basic cable.
 
2014-02-06 10:00:12 PM  

coeyagi: machoprogrammer: Submitter is either a troll or a dumbass. Democrats are not ultra-liberal. The Democrat Party would be the conservative party in almost any other nation on Earth.

And Republicans would be the fascists.

Ultra liberal in their minds is not fantasizing about sucking Reagan's cock every time Red Dawn comes on basic cable.


*sigh* the shiat i have to put up with....jpg

/lol
 
2014-02-06 10:02:50 PM  

coeyagi: machoprogrammer: Submitter is either a troll or a dumbass. Democrats are not ultra-liberal. The Democrat Party would be the conservative party in almost any other nation on Earth.

And Republicans would be the fascists.

Ultra liberal in their minds is not fantasizing about sucking Reagan's cock every time Red Dawn comes on basic cable.


...oh.

*removes item from bucket list*
 
2014-02-06 10:14:08 PM  

machoprogrammer: The Democrat Party would be the conservative party in almost any other nation on Earth.


This. I have friends in Europe and we all get a good laugh about how our "liberals" are their conservatives.
 
2014-02-06 10:26:13 PM  
You guys are good, damn good. An elected official is convicted of assaulting a woman because she spurned his advances, doesn't have enough shame to resign, the Naacp sends a letter to the elected officials asking them to abstain from voting against him because he hasn't received due process(?) And you manage to blame republicans, in Massachusetts no less.
 
2014-02-06 10:30:02 PM  

coffeeplease: You guys are good, damn good. An elected official is convicted of assaulting a woman because she spurned his advances, doesn't have enough shame to resign, the Naacp sends a letter to the elected officials asking them to abstain from voting against him because he hasn't received due process(?) And you manage to blame republicans, in Massachusetts no less.



Hmmm. Concern lying. We might need to study this out.
 
2014-02-06 10:31:30 PM  
Yeah, if you're going to do it, you have to go all the way.  Just ask  Mary Jo Kopechne about accountable Massachusetts Democrats.  Oh wait, you can't.    Then there was that rapey thing in Florida.  Oh and don't forget the "Kennedy-Dodd sandwich."  There is just such a rich history of accountability of Massachusetts Democrats debasing, assaulting and killing women.  Heck, you'd almost think Clinton and John Edwards were from Massachusetts.
 
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