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2014-02-06 08:43:42 PM
Oh waahhh.....  Get the fark over it, whiny coonts...
 
2014-02-06 08:43:53 PM

China White Tea: Elegy: If you listen closely, northerners that love to talk about how much they hate the south are just using "the south" as a dog whistle for their own prejudice against blacks. To put it bluntly, if someone hates the south then they're probably a racist.

The first thing that comes to mind when I think about "the south" is gun totin' yeehaw white boys in pickup trucks.


As a white Southerner, you need to hear (read) it from one of us that WE don't like them (the gun totin' yeehaw white boys in pickup trucks) either -- we have enough dumb ass stereotypes to deal with.  Me walking around in sandals or bare feet in below freezing temps probably doesn't help us much.....

If you really want to know, most Southerners, black and white, are racist or hateful towards people from Latin cultures.  Not saying they're isn't racial tension between blacks and whites, but since there's a group that both can hate on, they do.  Oh, and we don't like jackasses from the North either, but only because ya'll are normally rude, smug, and have no idea how to courteously accept Southern Hospitality.  I guess ya'll don't say hello, good morning, hold doors open for each other, or offer assistance to those that need it.  I personally usually end up helping someone elderly almost every time I go grocery shopping and see one -- I just feel bad seeing a 90 year old lady struggle trying to get food from the shelf to the cart and have to help.  What was funny was the day before yesterday I held the door open for an older black dude and he looked shocked -- suppose that's cause I look like a stereotypical redneck, only with long hair and a beard similar to Jesus (I'm athiest, so I get plenty of lol's when I get called Jesus...now I get called Duck Dynasty....might have to shave my beard because of that retarded show).

Most of the South's truly racist people have or are dying off.  There's a few racist jerk offs around, but most are either the stereotypical meth-head rednecks or Aryan Brotherhood douches....ya don't really see or hear about the KKK that much....probably off taking a hot shower.

The New South is pretty racially tolerant and we don't like the Latinos because they're known to rip people off in the dope game, not because they're illegals or a different color -- figured I'd point that out.  A decent portion Southerners live life illegally and we don't hate on others doing what they need to do to make ends meet, unless its a Meth, Crack, Pill, or Heroine dealer....don't anybody except dope fiends like them.

Are all Northerners haters?  Or just the ones that come down South?

Oh, and have ya'll heard of Sundown Towns.  I'm sure ya have.  They have them here for both black and white people....just that the white unfriendly towns don't make the news.

Yes, its' ya'll.  "Ya" is our way of saying you, "ll" is the ass end of all.  Y'all is Yankee formatted (short for you all), Ya'll is Southern Style (short for ya all).  Honestly, I wish Southern speech style could be considered its own language or subset of English like Ebonics is.

Just do us a favor and keep up with all the stereotypes.  We have plenty of open land, clean air, good people, good food, good weather, and we'd hate it if the rest of the country figured it out and moved here....apparently California has, seems like every other person I meet is from California (including me, moved here when I was 3).
 
2014-02-06 08:46:47 PM
So when Andrew Zimmern or Anthony Bourdain does a whole show on "soul food," celebrating black American history and sitting down with the black owners of the restaurant who discuss the recipes passed down from their great grandparents, that's totally cool.  If a school cafeteria offers soul food in honor of black history, it's racist.  Got it.
 
2014-02-06 08:48:41 PM

Facetious_Speciest: I am similarly offended when spaghetti is served in October or potatoes in March or tacos in September. Schools should really know better by now.

It's 2014, people. Your culinary racism isn't appropriate. I don't care how tasty something is, you can't eat it during the month honoring the ethnic group you stereotype it as being associated with. It's just not ok anymore.


Being offended by tasty food is what shouldn't be ok anymore. I grew up with my mother pan-frying delicious fried chicken, we ate cornbread and watermelon all the time. Everyone I knew, black and white, did the same.
 
2014-02-06 08:49:43 PM
I think if they had labeled it as the "Soul Food" style of cuisine instead of just sortof implied "this is the food all black people like," and served ribs, collards, and black-eyed peas, it actually would have been pretty cool.
 
2014-02-06 08:50:14 PM
as a white southerner let me just say STFU and enjoy the fried chicken and cornbread and hope they were made by a real black grandmother. You will never eat better again.
 
2014-02-06 08:52:50 PM
Well I work at an obscure government agency and every year there's a black history luncheon pot luck. Most everyone attends. Most of the black employees and some of other races bring a favorite dish. There is always fried chicken and corn bread, pigs feet, collored greens(sp?), chitlins, catfish, pigs feet, etc...they call it soul food and are proud of their heritage. And even a big cooler full of koolaid and another with sweet tea. I don't ever recall watermelon but I might have just missed it.
 
2014-02-06 08:54:29 PM

supershaft: Well I work at an obscure government agency and every year there's a black history luncheon pot luck. Most everyone attends. Most of the black employees and some of other races bring a favorite dish. There is always fried chicken and corn bread, pigs feet, collored greens(sp?), chitlins, catfish, pigs feet, etc...they call it soul food and are proud of their heritage. And even a big cooler full of koolaid and another with sweet tea. I don't ever recall watermelon but I might have just missed it.


So there's two plates of pigs feet....
 
2014-02-06 08:56:21 PM
There is NO way they'd serve chicken and watermelon.  Not only racist but a pathetic cliche.

*click*

Holy shiat.
 
2014-02-06 08:56:59 PM
Is this the first thread about a Catholic girls' school that hasn't (d)evolved into pics?

Huh.
 
2014-02-06 08:57:36 PM

HeartBurnKid: Those of you who honestly don't know what the deal is with the fried chicken stereotype:  READ.


they forgot to include that 'yard bird' is pretty easy to raise and are generally content getting the bugs out of your garden so you don't need lots of extra money to keep them fat and happy.
 
2014-02-06 09:00:53 PM
That's ridiculous.  They should have gone with rib tips, macaroni and cheese and sweet potato pie.

/ Seriously - I don't understand how this is offensive.  I'm of Italian descent, and I don't get pissed when someone has "Italian Night" with spaghetti and pizza - other than when the pasta or pizza is bland and not well prepared.  Which is most of the time.
 
2014-02-06 09:05:36 PM
Please tell me this is a spoof.
 
2014-02-06 09:09:01 PM
And for dessert, Martin Luther Ding Dongs!
 
2014-02-06 09:09:51 PM
csb: one of my pals at work is half black (before you get your panties in a wad, he told me that phrase exactly when we were discussing our respective parentage and ethnic backgrounds), and he provided me a recipe for the BEST farking collard greens I've ever eaten.

/seriously, the best greens ever
//grew up in TN
 
2014-02-06 09:11:50 PM
At my high school (that was 75% black btw) the concession stand at lunch had a big ass jar of pickled pig lips. fiddy cent. I never dared touch them but some of the black kids would sit and eat those things. Man it looked gross.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-06 09:13:50 PM
nimg.sulekha.com
 
2014-02-06 09:14:01 PM
The amount of outrage is directly proportional to the amount of bean pies at said lunch.

drtfa and don't care
 
2014-02-06 09:14:57 PM

sobriquet by any other name: Seraphym: Jeebus, I'm so sick of racism, it's just everywhere!

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said someone who obviously isn't

i'm guessing you have no chin.


I'm guessing you're a blast at parties.
 
2014-02-06 09:20:55 PM
"fried chicken, cornbread and watermelon"

Sounds like a damn good lunch to me.
 
2014-02-06 09:21:56 PM
16 K a year No. Cal. Catholic girl's school is culturally tone deaf?  Shocked.  Just shocked.
WRONG.  Racist Mean Girls.  They meant that shiat, but thought they were isolated enough that only "People Like Us" would know. Can't wait to get to work tomorrow and hear about PC run wild.
 
2014-02-06 09:24:54 PM

skeevy420: Yes, its' ya'll. "Ya" is our way of saying you, "ll" is the ass end of all. Y'all is Yankee formatted (short for you all), Ya'll is Southern Style (short for ya all).


THIS IS BULLSH*T.  *clicks profile* THIS COULD LEAD TO AN EAST V.S. WEST SOUTHERN CIVIL WAR.  *hears/feels the prayers of Farkers everywhere.  in this thread, anyway.  even the ones of the atheists praying metaphorically*
 
2014-02-06 09:42:29 PM
I'm probably the whitest person in the world and I LOVE fried chicken, watermelon, cornbread, etc. I also like red Kool-aid and macaroni & cheese.

                          4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-06 09:51:24 PM
Racism (true racism, not the meaningless buzzword libs throw around) implies hatred toward a particular race of people. This school was trying to honor black history month with fried chicken and corn bread. Why? Because, omfg, a lot of black people (as well as white people) enjoy those foods. Get over it.
 
2014-02-06 09:52:55 PM

ten foiled hats: skeevy420: Yes, its' ya'll. "Ya" is our way of saying you, "ll" is the ass end of all. Y'all is Yankee formatted (short for you all), Ya'll is Southern Style (short for ya all).

THIS IS BULLSH*T.  *clicks profile* THIS COULD LEAD TO AN EAST V.S. WEST SOUTHERN CIVIL WAR.  *hears/feels the prayers of Farkers everywhere.  in this thread, anyway.  even the ones of the atheists praying metaphorically*


How many Southerners do you know that actually pronounce it "you" over "ya"?  I'm guessing very few, unless it's in a formal situation....we can talk correctly (most of us), we just don't like or prefer to.  In the end, it doesn't matter considering we use "swig" as a form of measurement and "yonder" as a way to give directions.

*clicks profile*
I'm not sure if Orlando, Florida, or the lower panhandle in general, is considered as part of the "South" or not.  Yea, you're technically in the South, but most of your population is either Caribbean or Elderly Northern immigrants.

DON'T EVEN SUGGEST THAT.  DON'T GIVE THEM THE IDEA OF A SOUTH VS SOUTH CIVIL WAR. WTF ARE YOU THINKING.
 
2014-02-06 09:55:40 PM
I guessed fried chicken and watermelon. Nailed it!
 
2014-02-06 10:12:09 PM
Most of these foods are just southern--fried chicken, cornbread, collards, watermelon. Coming up as a young fellow back in the 60's & 70's, the one food that I always associated with black folks was crabs. Seemed like nearly every weekend in the black sections of towns all along the Gulf Coast there were multiple groups of negros sitting around on chairs with a bushel of crabs in the center and a cooler of beer nearby. They'd sit around and worry on the crab legs, drink the beer and shoot the breeze. Now that the population is three times as big and overbuilding has ruined the ecosystem on the bayous, crabs are hard to come by and ain't much of that happening anymore. Sort of sad, really, this once great black tradition gone.
 
2014-02-06 10:21:41 PM
other students and parents became offended.

"Other" huh? That's offensive.
 
2014-02-06 10:28:50 PM

Olo Manolo: Oh waahhh.....  Get the fark over it, whiny coonts...



Huh. First time I've ever seen that spelled with a "t" before.
 
2014-02-06 10:29:59 PM
*clicks profile*
I'm not sure if Orlando, Florida, or the lower panhandle in general, is considered as part of the "South" or not.  Yea, you're technically in the South, but most of your population is either Caribbean or Elderly Northern immigrants.

DON'T EVEN SUGGEST THAT.  DON'T GIVE THEM THE IDEA OF A SOUTH VS SOUTH CIVIL WAR. WTF ARE YOU THINKING.


Inland Florida below Lakeland, down 17 and 27 all the way to LaBelle and Okeechobee, South all the way. Our Indian neighbors in Brighton and Big Cypress, South in a Western sort of way. Ranching and citrus for them and for us. A good big helping of Mexican seasonal labor who bring their families--good people who make the agricultural South work.

/Native here
//Always been a lot of ethnicities in the SwiftMud area
///Snowbirds are a little hard to take
///Avoid the coasts at all costs
 
2014-02-06 10:34:29 PM
Oh those enlightened blue state ca liberals.
 
2014-02-06 10:36:19 PM
If I were a student, I would be PISSED.  That was probably going to go down as the best lunch of the year. I wonder what other sides were going to be served, though...

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2014-02-06 10:38:56 PM

skeevy420: ten foiled hats: skeevy420: Yes, its' ya'll. "Ya" is our way of saying you, "ll" is the ass end of all. Y'all is Yankee formatted (short for you all), Ya'll is Southern Style (short for ya all).

THIS IS BULLSH*T.  *clicks profile* THIS COULD LEAD TO AN EAST V.S. WEST SOUTHERN CIVIL WAR.  *hears/feels the prayers of Farkers everywhere.  in this thread, anyway.  even the ones of the atheists praying metaphorically*

How many Southerners do you know that actually pronounce it "you" over "ya"?  I'm guessing very few, unless it's in a formal situation....we can talk correctly (most of us), we just don't like or prefer to.  In the end, it doesn't matter considering we use "swig" as a form of measurement and "yonder" as a way to give directions.

*clicks profile*
I'm not sure if Orlando, Florida, or the lower panhandle in general, is considered as part of the "South" or not.  Yea, you're technically in the South, but most of your population is either Caribbean or Elderly Northern immigrants.

DON'T EVEN SUGGEST THAT.  DON'T GIVE THEM THE IDEA OF A SOUTH VS SOUTH CIVIL WAR. WTF ARE YOU THINKING.


Actually did some checking, and it looks like six of one, half dozen of the other.  Regional.  To me, yeah, we say 'ya', but that 'ya' would sound out of place in 'ya'll'.  It'd sound like 'yuhll'.  'Y'all' should sound like 'yawl'.  'Ya'll' looks more like 'you will', and would sound like it, too.  But again, regional.

Orlando isn't panhandle.  Southeast Alabama is panhandle.  That said, Orlando proper isn't so much South, but into some of the rural areas around it...hoo, yeah.  (I think this is a common occurrence everywhere.) I was actually more going with my mother's side of the family, which is all Carolinas/Georgia/Florida.  I've always seen it y'all.  That's why I figured maybe 'ya'll' was an SEC West spelling.
 
2014-02-06 10:45:03 PM

OnlyM3: Oh those enlightened blue state ca liberals.


Have you BEEN to CA? Many parts of it are surprisingly conservative (in my experience, the poor white trash and there is plenty of that in CA).

/Native
 
2014-02-06 10:49:51 PM

nekom: Etchy333:
This article does a good job of summing up both fried chicken and watermelon issues:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/codeswitch/2013/05/22/186087397/where-did-t ha t-fried-chicken-stereotype-come-from

It's a code, and it depends on context.  The big issue is that it's about the power dynamic.  It's been historically used by people to describe another group of people.  It would be like if you went to Europe, and they said "Oh, I know what all Americans like," and they brought out a bunch of packaged junk food.

That was an interesting read.  Sure context is important.  I would think it would be much more offensive though if they had used things like pig's feet and chitterlings, because that was what many slaves ate because their masters wouldn't, rather than a food common to all ethnic groups in the modern USA.


You forgot Lobsters too.
 
2014-02-06 10:54:53 PM

Lorelle: vudukungfu: Fark that.
You put some collard greens, alligator ribs, hog jowls, black eyed peas, hominy grits, and some chitin's on that menu and we'll talk.

Don't forget the mac and cheese, fried catfish and sole, hush puppies, sweet potato pie, and Sock It To Me cake.

/my former cow orkers got me hooked on soul food


--See what you did there!!
 
2014-02-06 10:55:13 PM

Etchy333: Ha, I went to the public school around the corner from here.  It's been awhile since I graduated, but the percentage of black students at this school is probably very low.

Kind of begs the question of what a "Black History Month" menu that doesn't incite outrage would look like.


The percentage of black people is low in Concord, and that's how they like it. They're very proud of not being "ghetto" like Oakland or Richmond and their fondest dream is to 'clean up' the Monument Corridor. Some call it Little Mexico, but they're Mexican so you can't judge them for that.
 
2014-02-06 10:59:20 PM

I Browse: Olo Manolo: Oh waahhh.....  Get the fark over it, whiny coonts...


Huh. First time I've ever seen that spelled with a "t" before.


nice..
 
2014-02-06 10:59:25 PM

Elegy: Miss Alexandra: Funny thing is, before I heard it was a black stereotype, I always thought of it as southern food.

It is southern food. And it's black food. The two are not mutually exclusive.

See, in America, the overwhelming majority of blacks live in the south. To be southern is to be black. To be black is to be southern.

If you listen closely, northerners that love to talk about how much they hate the south are just using "the south" as a dog whistle for their own prejudice against blacks. To put it bluntly, if someone hates the south then they're probably a racist.

LoneVVolf: No menu. Send the kitchen staff out to get their hair done did and let the kids fix their own damn lunch...

Fixed.


I didn't realize there were that many battleflag-waving, sister-farking jesusfreaks in the black communities.
 
2014-02-06 11:01:39 PM
I personally find it offensive that Black History Month even exists.
 
2014-02-06 11:03:21 PM

TerminalEchoes: Racism (true racism, not the meaningless buzzword libs throw around) implies hatred toward a particular race of people. This school was trying to honor black history month with fried chicken and corn bread. Why? Because, omfg, a lot of black people (as well as white people) enjoy those foods. Get over it.


The only true honor that is acceptable is naming a street after a dead guy.
 
2014-02-06 11:07:33 PM

Disgruntled Goat: I personally find it offensive that Black History Month even exists.


I know. Given that we enslaved them, and shat on them for the past 150 years, they should get at least a history year. Or two.
 
2014-02-06 11:11:52 PM

skeevy420: China White Tea: Elegy: If you listen closely, northerners that love to talk about how much they hate the south are just using "the south" as a dog whistle for their own prejudice against blacks. To put it bluntly, if someone hates the south then they're probably a racist.

The first thing that comes to mind when I think about "the south" is gun totin' yeehaw white boys in pickup trucks.

As a white Southerner, you need to hear (read) it from one of us that WE don't like them (the gun totin' yeehaw white boys in pickup trucks) either -- we have enough dumb ass stereotypes to deal with.  Me walking around in sandals or bare feet in below freezing temps probably doesn't help us much.....

If you really want to know, most Southerners, black and white, are racist or hateful towards people from Latin cultures.  Not saying they're isn't racial tension between blacks and whites, but since there's a group that both can hate on, they do.  Oh, and we don't like jackasses from the North either, but only because ya'll are normally rude, smug, and have no idea how to courteously accept Southern Hospitality.  I guess ya'll don't say hello, good morning, hold doors open for each other, or offer assistance to those that need it.  I personally usually end up helping someone elderly almost every time I go grocery shopping and see one -- I just feel bad seeing a 90 year old lady struggle trying to get food from the shelf to the cart and have to help.  What was funny was the day before yesterday I held the door open for an older black dude and he looked shocked -- suppose that's cause I look like a stereotypical redneck, only with long hair and a beard similar to Jesus (I'm athiest, so I get plenty of lol's when I get called Jesus...now I get called Duck Dynasty....might have to shave my beard because of that retarded show).

Most of the South's truly racist people have or are dying off.  There's a few racist jerk offs around, but most are either the stereotypical meth-head rednecks or ...


I'm white, But that was not funny at all! And I have a broad sense of humor.
 
2014-02-06 11:13:57 PM
The black students weren't bothered by the fried chicken and cornbread.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Controversy-Surrounds-Lunch-Menu - at-Concord-High-School-243851091.html

Looks like the watermelon is the only part that bothered them.

Besides, is watermelon even in season???
 
2014-02-06 11:14:13 PM

Disgruntled Goat: I personally find it offensive that Black History Month even exists.


I agree, in that black history should be taught and celebrated as a normal part of American history overall. But sadly, when I was in K-12, the extent of black history that I learned was basically slavery, Martin Luther King, and I think we read some Richard Wright. And that was pretty much it.

Luckily, my family filled in the empty spaces with our own personal history (living under Jim Crow, the great migration, life in the segregated military, other civil rights heroes, red lining) and also gave me some books to read that weren't covered at school. By the time I got to college, I'd developed a curiosity about black history that led me to do my own research and thinking.

But...that's just me. Most kids I know just learned what was taught in school. And that, I believe, is the reason black history month took root in the first place.
 
2014-02-06 11:17:01 PM

rebelyell2006: Disgruntled Goat: I personally find it offensive that Black History Month even exists.

I know. Given that we enslaved them, and shat on them for the past 150 years, they should get at least a history year. Or two.


So that means jews should get 2-3 history years in Egypt, right?
 
2014-02-06 11:18:32 PM
Not sure how that's racist. That's what every southerner eats everyday.

Now if they offered purple drank... RACIST!
 
2014-02-06 11:22:25 PM

Slaves2Darkness: You know they probably should have just shown the classic Kung Fu movie The Last Dragon.


www.thelastdragontribute.com
 
2014-02-06 11:34:05 PM

gar1013: rebelyell2006: Disgruntled Goat: I personally find it offensive that Black History Month even exists.

I know. Given that we enslaved them, and shat on them for the past 150 years, they should get at least a history year. Or two.

So that means jews should get 2-3 history years in Egypt, right?


Only if historians and archaeologists could prove that the ancient Hebrews were actually enslaved in Egypt.
 
2014-02-06 11:39:50 PM

redhook: Slaves2Darkness: You know they probably should have just shown the classic Kung Fu movie The Last Dragon.


Sho-Nuff!
 
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