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2014-02-06 03:22:39 PM

Dirtybird971: not to mention all the other military equip that goes from factory floor to "graveyard" storage. It is a farking disgrace that our leaders don't address this.


biatching about kids gaming the school lunch system and ignoring military waste is like quitting your $100,000 job to spend your days picking up returnable bottles in the street.
 
2014-02-06 03:22:41 PM

what_now: TomD9938: / my dad would rather have died than to have a stranger pay for my lunch.

Oh. Well than all dad's must be like yours.

A kid cannot learn if he's hungry, and a kid that doesn't learn will never be any benefit to society.


Houses in the Utah neighborhood where that happened start at 400k for 2000 sq feet (smaller homes in that area)  that twice the state average.  lots of millions dollar homes there too.  Those kids are the children of professors and lawyers and surgeons and job creators. They will be just fine.

 I hope all those parents are embarrassed as hell that they didn't pay  little Jayen's bill.  I feel no outrage when shiat like this happens to rich people.
 
2014-02-06 03:23:03 PM
Very nice .
 
2014-02-06 03:23:45 PM
FTFA: "about 40 young kids at Uintah Elementary School "

So the old kids were OK?
 
2014-02-06 03:24:01 PM

dpzum1: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

What's wrong with being a socialist. Well, apart from me not wanting to work for you or anyone else who doesn't want to work, me wanting to keep what I've earned, not give it to you or the government, I'd say about a million other things...


Hahaha, what the fark. You wish to live in a magical fantasy land where you're the king.
 
2014-02-06 03:24:10 PM

SubBass49: TomD9938: As subbass49 pointed out, these are families who can afford the school lunches (otherwise they'd be getting the free / reduced rate) and just don't bother to pay.

You defend that?

Perhaps categorize the lack of parental responsibility as a misdemeanor child-neglect charge?  Allowing for wage garnishment in the amount owed?  These are just ideas.  Meanwhile continue to feed the children while you proceed with legal options against the parents?



Possibly a lien on their property or require payment to renew a drivers license.

/ obviously the kid has to eat
 
2014-02-06 03:24:49 PM

dpzum1: me wanting to keep what I've earned, not give it to you or the government,


Oh this bullshiat.

You know how you've never been attacked by Vikings? Why do you think that is?
 
2014-02-06 03:24:55 PM

bluenovaman: rkiller1: So even though the kids had received, continued to receive and will in the future receive free lunches, there is outrage here about military spending and the GOP.
Interesting logic.

It's about priorities fool, some of us want a better world for all of our children and couldn't give a shiat about killing brown people half way across the world.


What?  The "fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" logic didn't work for you, either?

/Hey, it DID shorten terrorist commuting time
 
2014-02-06 03:25:19 PM

rkiller1: So even though the kids had received, continued to receive and will in the future receive free lunches, there is outrage here about military spending and the GOP.
Interesting logic.


What's even more interesting is how you get a delinquent account while receiving these free lunches you speak of.
 
2014-02-06 03:25:28 PM

d23: SubBass49: - What alternatives should be offered up to deal with deadbeat parents CAPABLE of paying for their own damn food who choose not to?

how about something that DOESN'T leave the kid hungry?


Or just settle for "don't put food in front of hungry kids and then take it away from them."  Christ.
 
2014-02-06 03:25:30 PM

HotWingConspiracy: limboslam: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.

Something tells me you don't actually know what socialism is.


Put everything into one big pile and then dole it out...From those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Karl Marx, a really successful chap.
 
2014-02-06 03:25:47 PM

durbnpoisn: According to my math...  $.40 per day for 180 days is $72.  Multiply that by 60 kids, you get $4,320.

It's not like this guy put up some chmp change.  That's a LOT of money!!

Good for him!!


I don't know where this $.40 comes from, my kid's lunch costs $3.50 a day, x  180 is $630 a year.  Not what my budget calls chump change but somehow I've managed over the years.
 
2014-02-06 03:26:19 PM

digitalrain: SubBass49: BTW...the school where I teach feeds over 2,000 kids per day breakfast & lunch for free (entire school population), but the kids waste so much of it that the seagulls fly about 20+ miles from the coast at lunch time to scavenge the utter waste-field that is left.

/BTW, most of the kids have smart-phones
//Many of the kids have BEATS headphones

Neither of my boys (ages 19 and 12) has a cellphone. They don't need them. My oldest, a senior in high school, has maybe 3 friends that he talks to at home and he does that on Xbox or Skype. My youngest uses my phone. When I was a kid, we had *one* phone line in the house and I managed to survive - I didn't even *gasp* have a phone in my room until after I graduated high school.

A couple months ago, I called the high school to let them know my husband was going to pick up my son. The boy is absentminded so I asked the girl on the other end (a student aid at the office) if she could get a message to him. "Can't you just text him?" she asked. When I said that he didn't have a cell, she said, "Are you serious??? He really doesn't have a cell?" Nevermind the fact that students aren't supposed to be using their damn phones during class anyway.

Yeah, I'm old. So what. The onion on my belt is all the company I need.


My daughter in middle school has one. It is worth it due to the convenience to me.She could get along fine without it but what is the benefit of not getting on for your kids? Then again it sounds like your kids aren't as social or involved in other activities outside of school/house so maybe there wouldn't be much benefit in that case.
 
2014-02-06 03:27:49 PM

bluenovaman: durbnpoisn: According to my math...  $.40 per day for 180 days is $72.  Multiply that by 60 kids, you get $4,320.

It's not like this guy put up some chmp change.  That's a LOT of money!!

Good for him!!

I don't know where this $.40 comes from, my kid's lunch costs $3.50 a day, x  180 is $630 a year.  Not what my budget calls chump change but somehow I've managed over the years.


It's the reduced lunch fare. And if you see what schools serve, $.40 is a rip off.
 
2014-02-06 03:28:04 PM
Someone in Texas not being a shiatty person? Good for you.
 
2014-02-06 03:28:16 PM

HotWingConspiracy: rkiller1: HotWingConspiracy: rkiller1: tricycleracer: Nemo's Brother: 60 parents that would rather spend their money on cable, 40s and smokes instead of pay for their children to eat.

Yup, and nothing will ever change this.  So do you want to just look the other way and do nothing about it?

Since you asked: yes, I will.  And if you think we should behave otherwise, then please set and example for us unenlightened folk and send money to help pay for those sixty "starving" kids.  Print the receipt and I'll match your donation.

The guy in the article just did that, so when are you cutting the check? Or is his example somehow invalid?

I said YOU.
Reading is hard.

What difference does it make who sets the example? Pony up, money bags.


I think the point was for you to put your money where your mouth was before acting all self righteous. Just sayin', I don't see anyone here crowing about going out and feeding kids. If the kids were on free lunches there wouldnt be any balance. If they were on reduced cost lunches, which 40 cents a day would be, they already know how the system works and could get moved to a free lunch schedule pretty quickly if their situation had changed. Hence they already know how the system works and have either chosen not to pay for their child's lunch or forgot to. either way the kids were getting a sandwich for lunch and i quite often eat a grilled cheese for lunch because it quick, cheep, and yummy.
Not saying there aren't issues but to go full retard over this one either side is well retarded.
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2014-02-06 03:28:18 PM

Dirtybird971: this is all so crazy to me. IDK how their school systems can't afford the bill. I mean, I don't have kids but doesn't your taxes pay for lunches at schools? Or maybe just tell aramark or whoever is supplying the food that they have to support these kids too to get the contract.


I've been to schools that paid for lunches and schools that didn't. Personally, I think schools should pay for hot lunches for all students and breakfast for poor kids (at the very least).
 
2014-02-06 03:28:27 PM

Sticky Hands: I hope all those parents are embarrassed as hell that they didn't pay little Jayen's bill.


Citation needed, not that the kids were all named Jayen but those parents who did not pay were in fact rich.  If it turns out that they were living in a one-room apartment above someone's garage barely scraping by, would that get you outraged?  Or is just living an in an above-average zip code (your definition of "rich") enough to quell your anger?
 
2014-02-06 03:30:27 PM

bluenovaman: There is also a petition to make taking and throwing lunches away on children illegal.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/illegalize-throwing-away-s tu dent-lunches-due-debt/MSZdvBZ4


Signed & Shared.

Thank you
 
2014-02-06 03:31:26 PM

dpzum1: HotWingConspiracy: limboslam: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.

Something tells me you don't actually know what socialism is.

Put everything into one big pile and then dole it out...From those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Karl Marx, a really successful chap.


I'm just glad you're living in a tax free capitalist society.
 
2014-02-06 03:32:34 PM

Netrngr: I think the point was for you to put your money where your mouth was before acting all self righteous.


Oh. Perhaps you can tell me what difference it makes who sets the example? The example has been set.
 
2014-02-06 03:32:37 PM

dpzum1: Put everything into one big pile and then dole it out...From those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Karl Marx, a really successful chap.


You've never really read much Marx, have you?
 
2014-02-06 03:33:24 PM

wambu: Will he do it next month? And after that? What about all the other kids in need every day?

/not likely to do it again

//what seems like a nice gesture fails to actually help


Kids who eat better, do better in school. Education fights poverty. Keeping kids fed gives them a better education, and helps them get out of poverty. Sounds like it helps to me.

Or do you believe that by not feeding these kids, the parents will learn a valuable lesson that will lead to sweeping lifestyle changes and they'll get all boot strappy?

Some parents can't afford to pay for things and some parents choose not to. Punishing the parents that can't, because some parents don't isn't a way to run a civilized nation.
 
2014-02-06 03:33:26 PM

what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry



Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.
 
2014-02-06 03:33:38 PM
If you keep giving these kids food, it just teaches them to expect hand-outs. The only way to keep this from happening is to make sure they starve to death. Stupid libs.
 
2014-02-06 03:33:39 PM
My conservative friends like to use the phrase "personal responsibility" quite a lot lately. Clearly, these children are not personally responsible, and no amount of charity will make them so. If they don't want cold cheese sandwiches, then they need to get themselves an education in any number of applied, vocational disciplines.
 
2014-02-06 03:33:47 PM

what_now: dpzum1: me wanting to keep what I've earned, not give it to you or the government,

Oh this bullshiat.

You know how you've never been attacked by Vikings? Why do you think that is?


Mainly because Vikings use oaken galleys and we have cruise missiles?

Also, it's a long sail from Norway to the US.

Also Vikings, as a raiding force, haven't existed for 800-500 ish years.

Also, the discovery of steel greatly inhibited the ability of the Vikings armed with iron in the whole plundering thing.
 
2014-02-06 03:34:19 PM
Too bad these are illegal.  If they were legal, the kids would not have to each free cheese sandwiches.
www.atlantaintownpaper.com
 
2014-02-06 03:34:19 PM

TomD9938: what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry


Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.


How old are you?
 
2014-02-06 03:34:56 PM

limboslam: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.


Yeah, three richest countries in the world, Norway, Sweden and Finland, are Democratic Socialist states. So, you're right. Which I really funny.
 
2014-02-06 03:35:03 PM

SubBass49: Then the question becomes how many people out there are like you? Where I live, until this school year, budgets were being cut left & right. It was hard as hell to get the voters to pass a tax increase to just keep our heads above water.
Are you representative of the voting public, or more left-leaning than they are?
What will happen when an increasing percentage of budget goes to feeding the children of people more than capable of doing it on their own, and schools lose more & more teachers, programs, supplies, etc.?


I don't even have kids and I'm okay with my taxes being used to pay for school lunches for all students. And I'm even okay with paying more taxes to make sure that schools get the funding they need for all programs. But I'm not a selfish asshole. I also think that schools should be funded by a central pot that doesn't leave schools in poor areas high an dry because local property taxes are in the toilet.

But I am of the strongly held position that educated children are less likely to become criminals or religious lunatics.
 
2014-02-06 03:35:39 PM
So what is reasonable to expect the parents are responsible for?

Hot lunch?
Clothes?
Shoes?
School Supplies?
Getting the child to school?

Where do you want to draw the line between what is the parents' responsability and society's?
 
2014-02-06 03:35:39 PM

HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry


Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.

How old are you?



AIP
 
2014-02-06 03:36:39 PM

what_now: You know how you've never been attacked by Vikings? Why do you think that is?


He doesn't use Capitol One Venture card?
=Smidge=
 
2014-02-06 03:36:42 PM

TomD9938: HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry


Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.

How old are you?


AIP


So not in elementary school?
 
2014-02-06 03:38:09 PM

HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry


Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.

How old are you?


AIP

So not in elementary school?



I suppose you're one of those "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" people.
 
2014-02-06 03:38:46 PM

Ed Grubermann: I don't even have kids and I'm okay with my taxes being used to pay for school lunches for all students. And I'm even okay with paying more taxes to make sure that schools get the funding they need for all programs. But I'm not a selfish asshole.


I AM a selfish asshole, and I too, believe in funding our schools. My reasoning is that it's worth the money to not have a bunch of uneducated retards running around. Stupid people are funny for a short while...then they get annoying.
 
2014-02-06 03:39:18 PM

dpzum1: Put everything into one big pile and then dole it out...From those according to their ability, to those according to their need.
Karl Marx, a really successful chap.


It's so damn easy to discount Marx when you don't have the patience (or brain power) to get through the first paragraph of Capital.  It's much more easy to take capitalism on faith and just BELIEVE that the invisible hand of the free market will make things all better!
 
2014-02-06 03:39:22 PM

TomD9938: HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry


Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.

How old are you?


AIP

The difference between a 43yr old being able to go hungry for a while and a 12yr old is night and day. Maybe they should just chew on your old boot straps?
 
2014-02-06 03:40:24 PM

rkiller1: Nemo's Brother: 60 parents that would rather spend their money on cable, 40s and smokes instead of pay for their children to eat.

And it turns out those parents didn't have to pay because the school was still feeding their kids.  What's the incentive for them to?  The nutritional horror of cheese sandwiches?   Come to think of it, where can I get mine?


This is why our country is circling the drain.

It's full of idiots who think this way.

Those same idiots refuse to believe that we are circling the drain.
 
2014-02-06 03:40:38 PM
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2014-02-06 03:22:39 PM
Dirtybird971: not to mention all the other military equip that goes from factory floor to "graveyard" storage. It is a farking disgrace that our leaders don't address this.


biatching about kids gaming the school lunch system and ignoring military waste is like quitting your $100,000 job to spend your days picking up returnable bottles in the street.


oh! It's the kids gaming the system. Not our politicians and officials.

Is that what's it's like? Please, go on simile master.
 
2014-02-06 03:40:41 PM

bluenovaman: durbnpoisn: According to my math...  $.40 per day for 180 days is $72.  Multiply that by 60 kids, you get $4,320.

It's not like this guy put up some chmp change.  That's a LOT of money!!

Good for him!!

I don't know where this $.40 comes from, my kid's lunch costs $3.50 a day, x  180 is $630 a year.  Not what my budget calls chump change but somehow I've managed over the years.


It was in TFA.  All the kids were on reduced lunch plans.
And, as far as the quality of said lunch...  I can't speak for all schools everywhere.  But I volunteered in the cafeteria more than a handful of times at my kid's schools.  They always had a very well rounded lunch.  Fruit, meat, drink, and snack...  Same as any other kid would pay $3.50 for.


Someone else mentioned not minding a raise in taxes to provide lunches.
That seems like a great idea.  But the problem is (and it's a BIG problem), that the tax money is already there.  It's just being terribly mismanaged.  If they were to raise our taxes on the presumption that it would be to pay for lunches, there is literally no guarantee whatsoever that that is where the money would go.
It would probably end up lining the pockets of yet more useless, overpaid administrators.
 
2014-02-06 03:40:44 PM

kimwim: And, what's wrong with being a socialist?


Nothing. Being a socialist means you realize that all services from health care to utilities should be in public hands and be readily available to whomever needs them. By means of both direct and representative democracy.

It wouldn't be that much different from our lives right now except that corporations and other forms of big business would not have the power they have now, and the people would be taking a more direct role in government and community. Something to think about the next time some curmudgeonly traditionalist tries talking shiat the next time you mention it.
 
2014-02-06 03:41:14 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I AM a selfish asshole, and I too, believe in funding our schools. My reasoning is that it's worth the money to not have a bunch of uneducated retards running around. Stupid people are funny for a short while...then they get annoying.


This thread has certainly proven that statement.
 
2014-02-06 03:41:20 PM

Ed Grubermann: And I'm even okay with paying more taxes to make sure that schools get the funding they need for all programs.


Then as an example to us all, you surely volunteer at the local school or at least give them money unconditionally, right?  I mean, if I see you do it, then I promise to follow suit.
 
2014-02-06 03:41:21 PM

TomD9938: HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: HotWingConspiracy: TomD9938: what_now: A kid cannot learn if he's hungry


Why do we take this oft-repeated line as some sort of gospel?

I happen to work better and am more alert on an empty stomach than I am after eating a large meal.

So long as nutrients are had at some point of the day, it's all good.

How old are you?


AIP

So not in elementary school?


I suppose you're one of those "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" people.


Well it is designed to break your fast for the night. Most humans require food, young ones more so.

They're growing and don't possess the coping mechanisms you can take for granted now.
 
2014-02-06 03:43:20 PM

SubBass49: BTW...the school where I teach feeds over 2,000 kids per day breakfast & lunch for free (entire school population), but the kids waste so much of it that the seagulls fly about 20+ miles from the coast at lunch time to scavenge the utter waste-field that is left.

/BTW, most of the kids have smart-phones
//Many of the kids have BEATS headphones


So, your free food sucks and no one will eat it except for scavenging birds?
 
2014-02-06 03:43:50 PM

bluenovaman: There is also a petition to make taking and throwing lunches away on children illegal.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/illegalize-throwing-away-s tu dent-lunches-due-debt/MSZdvBZ4


Signed.  But seriously  "The 3rd colour in finger, purple, green and blue is? "  for the challenge question.  Why is color spelled the way it is in the UK and not the US?
 
2014-02-06 03:43:58 PM

what_now: YES!!I want my tax dollars to feed hungry children. I can't think of a BETTER use of my tax dollars, than to feed hungry children.If I have to pay more in taxes because someone is gaming the system, but the result is that we don't have hungry children, I am ok with paying higher taxes.My God, the USS Gerald Ford is scheduled to cost around $35,000,000,000. That's a waste. A farking turkey sandwich is not.


AND...Favorited.
 
2014-02-06 03:45:28 PM

HotWingConspiracy: limboslam: So the parents can't affor $8 bucks a month? I woder if they have smart phones.

Why do you woder that?


Because then we can JUDGE THEM FREELY! As you know, if you need any sort of assistance at all from the government you have to live in rags on the street so we can be sure to look down at you as we pass by.
 
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