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(Everlasting GOPstoppers)   Hey Utards, this is how you do it. "Houston man pays delinquent lunch accounts for 60 elementary school kids"   (theeverlastinggopstoppers.com) divider line 346
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2014-02-06 03:08:10 PM  

jedikinkoid: Oh, for f***'s sake. Yes, the decision to follow policy rather than think about how their actions would look was ridiculous. But the histrionics that have followed have lost all sense of perspective, and calling this guy a "hero" for ostentatiously paying the bills is beyond idiotic.


Well, get Drew to make a "Damn nice fellow" tag and we can use that next time. Ok?
 
2014-02-06 03:08:14 PM  

what_now: SubBass49: I'm a liberal who has taught for the past 13 years in a low-income urban school, and I am a bit annoyed by a lack of points being made here...

- ALL public school students whose families meet income guidelines can get free or reduced-price lunches from school.

- In order for the kids to have negative balances on their lunch accounts, it means their families CAN afford to feed them OR pay for their food, but they chose not to.

- What alternatives should be offered up to deal with deadbeat parents CAPABLE of paying for their own damn food who choose not to?

I don't know. But starving the children certainly isn't one of them.

Somerville, MA has recently decided to provide free, nutritious breakfast to every student in public school, regardless of income, and reduce the cost of lunch to $2.75 per meal, and has this policy for students who haven't paid:
 All students who are not eligible for Free or Reduced Lunch or have not submitted a lunch application are required to pay for lunch if they choose to get a lunch from the cafeteria. Students are allowed to debit up to ($25.00) and still receive lunch. Students that have reached this threshold of owing $25.00 will not be allowed to receive additional lunches until they submit payment. However they will be able to receive cereal, fruit, juice and milk anytime they do not have money. Students in grades K through 2 will be allowed to receive lunch regardless of the amount of money owed. All students will be provided with nutritious food each day and no student will be denied food.

You know, as a tax payer in Somerville, I'm a perfectly ok with this.


Then the question becomes how many people out there are like you?  Where I live, until this school year, budgets were being cut left & right.  It was hard as hell to get the voters to pass a tax increase to just keep our heads above water.
Are you representative of the voting public, or more left-leaning than they are?
What will happen when an increasing percentage of budget goes to feeding the children of people more than capable of doing it on their own, and schools lose more & more teachers, programs, supplies, etc.?

Again, I'm left-leaning in general, but I also see the inadequate funding in person every day and it pisses me off to no end that there are people that COULD pay their way and choose not to.
 
2014-02-06 03:08:35 PM  

limboslam: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.


I am no socialist, but capitalism seems to be circling the bowl for the vast majority.


/not me
 
2014-02-06 03:08:38 PM  

limboslam: Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.


Um.. Yeah. It works great in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Costa Rica...

But I'm sure those are just outliers.
 
2014-02-06 03:08:48 PM  
So the parents can't affor $8 bucks a month? I woder if they have smart phones.
 
2014-02-06 03:08:59 PM  
Holy sh*t! How did a feel-good article on feeding poor kids lunches turn into a "f**k you - me first - hate the poor" thread?
Some of y'all have to go to the gun-range and fire off some rounds of hostility or sumpin'.
 
2014-02-06 03:10:06 PM  
utah is like a top 5 welfare state from the federal goverment..behind like KY and LA.. its like the derpy your policy the more you need hand outs
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-06 03:10:21 PM  

SubBass49: - What alternatives should be offered up to deal with deadbeat parents CAPABLE of paying for their own damn food who choose not to?


how about something that DOESN'T leave the kid hungry?
 
2014-02-06 03:10:22 PM  
Thanks for the dramatic video re-enactment Click2Houston, I was having difficulty visualizing what a man taking out his wallet and paying for something looks like.
 
2014-02-06 03:10:25 PM  

limboslam: So the parents can't affor $8 bucks a month? I woder if they have smart phones.


Why do you woder that?
 
2014-02-06 03:10:28 PM  

I Browse: SubBass49:

- What alternatives should be offered up to deal with deadbeat parents CAPABLE of paying for their own damn food who choose not to?


Can I assume that the parents got multiple warnings (written, phone calls, in person) and simply ignored all of them? Because if that's the case, then yeah...you don't have much choice left. But if they haven't received those warnings...I'd probably start there.


Assuming this happened.  Most school districts have auto-dialer programs that can contact a grouping of parents based on criteria they select.


fanbladesaresharp: Attach it like child support payments or at least go after them like libraries do for overdue books?

/not being snarky


I really like that idea, but then the district has to fork over money to go to court or pay collection agencies.  Districts are still out money.
 
2014-02-06 03:10:49 PM  

rkiller1: So even though the kids had received, continued to receive and will in the future receive free lunches, there is outrage here about military spending and the GOP.
Interesting logic.


It's about priorities fool, some of us want a better world for all of our children and couldn't give a shiat about killing brown people half way across the world.
 
2014-02-06 03:11:07 PM  
Will he do it next month? And after that? What about all the other kids in need every day?

/not likely to do it again

//what seems like a nice gesture fails to actually help
 
2014-02-06 03:11:09 PM  

limboslam: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.


I don't know, Norway seems to be doing pretty well.
 
2014-02-06 03:11:28 PM  
I wonder how many of those kids yearn to get the hell out of that state.  Stay in school kiddos.
 
2014-02-06 03:11:31 PM  

SubBass49: Are you representative of the voting public, or more left-leaning than they are?


In Somerville? I'm pretty representative. There are people who will biatch about this, but mainly because the menu is also in Spanish, Hmong, and Creole. Not a lot of Mass residents will admit to being opposed to feeding children.


/Somerville is very proud of it's healthy lunch program



http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2722405/
 
2014-02-06 03:11:47 PM  

limboslam: kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.

Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.


Yea, our roads suck.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-06 03:12:18 PM  

tbhouston: utah is like a top 5 welfare state from the federal goverment..behind like KY and LA.. its like the derpy your policy the more you need hand outs


Another interesting tidbit is that there is a concept (I think it's called "starving the beast") in the fundamentalist Mormon church that states they should have as many kids as possible so they can get as much money from the government as possible.  I wish I had a good link about that... that was from a documentary I saw at some point.
 
2014-02-06 03:12:20 PM  

oldfarthenry: Some of y'all have to go to the gun-range and fire off some rounds of hostility or sumpin'.


I'm pretty sure most of their moms were downrange when someone was shooting of an M-16, and they're all the babies of the left-over sperm on the barrel after their carefully inbred fathers finished jacking off on their extra large magazines.
 
2014-02-06 03:12:44 PM  

d23: SubBass49: - What alternatives should be offered up to deal with deadbeat parents CAPABLE of paying for their own damn food who choose not to?

how about something that DOESN'T leave the kid hungry?


Such as?  Deadbeats will screw the schools over for as long as they can unless there are teeth to the policy and they know they're gonna get nailed for it...and even then some will still try to test it for themselves.

Wage-garnishment?
Jail?

Remember, these are not POOR people who cannot afford to feed their kids, they're people that don't give a shiat about feeding their kids.
 
2014-02-06 03:12:45 PM  

abhorrent1: whose parents couldn't afford the 40 cents a day

Farking seriously? You can probably find this laying on the street. How farking stupid are these people?


I've seldom seen a more appropriate screen name.
 
2014-02-06 03:13:00 PM  

what_now: TomD9938: / my dad would rather have died than to have a stranger pay for my lunch.

Oh. Well than all dad's must be like yours.

A kid cannot learn if he's hungry, and a kid that doesn't learn will never be any benefit to society.



As subbass49 pointed out, these are families who can afford the school lunches (otherwise they'd be getting the free / reduced rate) and just don't bother to pay.

You defend that?
 
2014-02-06 03:13:34 PM  
What's a utard? Is that a ute?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-06 03:13:44 PM  

Isitoveryet: maybe if it weren't for the burden of administrative costs a little bit of the money pumped into our schools could go to feeding the students and more to our teachers!

we feed our soldiers, why not feed our future soldiers?


We don't always feed our former soldiers, though.
 
2014-02-06 03:14:14 PM  

oldfarthenry: Holy sh*t! How did a feel-good article on feeding poor kids lunches turn into a "f**k you - me first - hate the poor" thread?
Some of y'all have to go to the gun-range and fire off some rounds of hostility or sumpin'.


Got ugly real quick, didn't it?
 
2014-02-06 03:14:41 PM  
That is the way it's done.  Good on you, guy.
 
2014-02-06 03:14:43 PM  
I'm still trying to figure out what a utard is..
 
2014-02-06 03:14:49 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: KidneyStone: Nice gesture, but now the parents will just wait until someone else pays off the account.

Starving the kids is obviously the only solution.


They're still getting fed.  Oh, the horror of a cheese sandwich!
 
2014-02-06 03:14:49 PM  

rkiller1

Dirtybird971: this is all so crazy to me. IDK how their school systems can't afford the bill. I mean, I don't have kids but doesn't your taxes pay for lunches at schools? Or maybe just tell aramark or whoever is supplying the food that they have to support these kids too to get the contract.


You know how I can tell you DNRTFA?


do you know how I know you are wrong? what I was saying is that I THOUGHT lunches were part of the deal with the taxes we pay.
 
2014-02-06 03:14:55 PM  

TomD9938: what_now: TomD9938: / my dad would rather have died than to have a stranger pay for my lunch.

Oh. Well than all dad's must be like yours.

A kid cannot learn if he's hungry, and a kid that doesn't learn will never be any benefit to society.


As subbass49 pointed out, these are families who can afford the school lunches (otherwise they'd be getting the free / reduced rate) and just don't bother to pay.

You defend that?


yeah my first thought when i saw this thread was that guy's a sucker.
 
2014-02-06 03:15:08 PM  

SubBass49: BTW...the school where I teach feeds over 2,000 kids per day breakfast & lunch for free (entire school population), but the kids waste so much of it that the seagulls fly about 20+ miles from the coast at lunch time to scavenge the utter waste-field that is left.

/BTW, most of the kids have smart-phones
//Many of the kids have BEATS headphones


Neither of my boys (ages 19 and 12) has a cellphone. They don't need them. My oldest, a senior in high school, has maybe 3 friends that he talks to at home and he does that on Xbox or Skype. My youngest uses my phone. When I was a kid, we had *one* phone line in the house and I managed to survive - I didn't even *gasp* have a phone in my room until after I graduated high school.

A couple months ago, I called the high school to let them know my husband was going to pick up my son. The boy is absentminded so I asked the girl on the other end (a student aid at the office) if she could get a message to him. "Can't you just text him?" she asked. When I said that he didn't have a cell, she said, "Are you serious??? He really doesn't have a cell?" Nevermind the fact that students aren't supposed to be using their damn phones during class anyway.

Yeah, I'm old. So what. The onion on my belt is all the company I need.
 
2014-02-06 03:15:16 PM  

what_now: limboslam: Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.

Um.. Yeah. It works great in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Costa Rica...

But I'm sure those are just outliers.


Welfare states do not equal socialism.  They still have "free markets".  Mixed economies do not equal socialism either.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-06 03:15:34 PM  

SubBass49: d23: SubBass49: - What alternatives should be offered up to deal with deadbeat parents CAPABLE of paying for their own damn food who choose not to?

how about something that DOESN'T leave the kid hungry?

Such as?  Deadbeats will screw the schools over for as long as they can unless there are teeth to the policy and they know they're gonna get nailed for it...and even then some will still try to test it for themselves.

Wage-garnishment?
Jail?

Remember, these are not POOR people who cannot afford to feed their kids, they're people that don't give a shiat about feeding their kids.


I don't pretend to have all answers, but you seem just peachy keen about making sure the kids suffer just because they happened to be born to a dumbass.
 
2014-02-06 03:16:00 PM  

TomD9938: As subbass49 pointed out, these are families who can afford the school lunches (otherwise they'd be getting the free / reduced rate) and just don't bother to pay.

You defend that?


Perhaps categorize the lack of parental responsibility as a misdemeanor child-neglect charge?  Allowing for wage garnishment in the amount owed?  These are just ideas.  Meanwhile continue to feed the children while you proceed with legal options against the parents?
 
2014-02-06 03:16:01 PM  

bluenovaman: rkiller1: So even though the kids had received, continued to receive and will in the future receive free lunches, there is outrage here about military spending and the GOP.
Interesting logic.

It's about priorities fool, some of us want a better world for all of our children and couldn't give a shiat about killing brown people half way across the world.


You're a funny, funny guy. You amooze me.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2014-02-06 03:16:37 PM  

FarkedOver: what_now: limboslam: Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.

Um.. Yeah. It works great in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Costa Rica...

But I'm sure those are just outliers.

Welfare states do not equal socialism.  They still have "free markets".  Mixed economies do not equal socialism either.


uh-oh.  Don't say that in Utah.  That'll be a beatin'.
 
2014-02-06 03:16:45 PM  

KidneyStone: HotWingConspiracy: KidneyStone: Nice gesture, but now the parents will just wait until someone else pays off the account.

Starving the kids is obviously the only solution.

They're still getting fed.  Oh, the horror of a cheese sandwich!


Honestly that's still a farking joke. White bread and american cheese is just something to prevent your stomach from eating itself.
 
2014-02-06 03:17:18 PM  

TomD9938: what_now: TomD9938: / my dad would rather have died than to have a stranger pay for my lunch.

Oh. Well than all dad's must be like yours.

A kid cannot learn if he's hungry, and a kid that doesn't learn will never be any benefit to society.


As subbass49 pointed out, these are families who can afford the school lunches (otherwise they'd be getting the free / reduced rate) and just don't bother to pay.

You defend that?


YES!!

I want my tax dollars to feed hungry children. I can't think of a BETTER use of my tax dollars, than to feed hungry children.


If I have to pay more in taxes because someone is gaming the system, but the result is that we don't have hungry children, I am ok with paying higher taxes.


My God, the USS Gerald Ford is scheduled to cost around $35,000,000,000. That's a waste. A farking turkey sandwich is not.
 
2014-02-06 03:17:19 PM  

d23: I don't pretend to have all answers, but you seem just peachy keen about making sure the kids suffer just because they happened to be born to a dumbass.


Your lack of reading comprehension may not be your fault...
 
2014-02-06 03:17:39 PM  

urbangirl: oldfarthenry: Holy sh*t! How did a feel-good article on feeding poor kids lunches turn into a "f**k you - me first - hate the poor" thread?
Some of y'all have to go to the gun-range and fire off some rounds of hostility or sumpin'.

Got ugly real quick, didn't it?


I'm afraid half the peeps in this thread are going to jack-boot it down to the salvation army and start kicking po' folk in the jimmies.
I thought I accidentally logged on to a Free Republic forum.
 
2014-02-06 03:17:53 PM  
If it's a "hero" who pays for children who aren't getting food to get food, it sure is a shame there isn't some organized way for us all to do that. Some overarching system that could handle such a big responsibility.
 
2014-02-06 03:18:28 PM  

d23: Isitoveryet: maybe if it weren't for the burden of administrative costs a little bit of the money pumped into our schools could go to feeding the students and more to our teachers!

we feed our soldiers, why not feed our future soldiers?

We don't always feed our former soldiers, though.



unfortunately :(
kinda gives some insight as to what your country really expects from you & how it appreciates your sacrifices.

/it sickens me
 
2014-02-06 03:19:00 PM  
Lunch period is over now...I hear the seagulls circling as we speak.  Time to go earn my money that I support my family of four on...barely.

/will check back later today and see how much shiat hits the fan in here...
 
2014-02-06 03:19:09 PM  

what_now: limboslam: Because Socialism has worked so well everywhere else it's been tried.

Um.. Yeah. It works great in Norway, Sweden, Finland, Iceland, Switzerland, Germany, Costa Rica...

But I'm sure those are just outliers.


What if I don't like raw turnips and vodka? And graft, you can't forget about the graft.

/ socialism is a good idea; who wouldn't want a chicken in every pot, school for every child, work for everyone, nobody scraping to get by. It's just that humanity can't seem to get the hang of everybody being equal and happy; some people will always feel that they are more equal than others. And that is why pure socialism is doomed to fail.
 
2014-02-06 03:19:48 PM  

SubBass49: Lunch period is over now...I hear the seagulls circling as we speak.  Time to go earn my money that I support my family of four on...barely.

/will check back later today and see how much shiat hits the fan in here...


You're the real hero.
 
2014-02-06 03:20:57 PM  
There's so many people that think they know what socialism is but really have no idea what it is.  Fantastic!
 
2014-02-06 03:21:13 PM  
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2014-02-06 03:17:18 PM
TomD9938: what_now: TomD9938: / my dad would rather have died than to have a stranger pay for my lunch.

Oh. Well than all dad's must be like yours.

A kid cannot learn if he's hungry, and a kid that doesn't learn will never be any benefit to society.


As subbass49 pointed out, these are families who can afford the school lunches (otherwise they'd be getting the free / reduced rate) and just don't bother to pay.

You defend that?


YES!!

I want my tax dollars to feed hungry children. I can't think of a BETTER use of my tax dollars, than to feed hungry children.


If I have to pay more in taxes because someone is gaming the system, but the result is that we don't have hungry children, I am ok with paying higher taxes.

My God, the USS Gerald Ford is scheduled to cost around $35,000,000,000. That's a waste. A farking turkey sandwich is not.


not to mention all the other military equip that goes from factory floor to "graveyard" storage. It is a farking disgrace that our leaders don't address this.
 
2014-02-06 03:21:57 PM  
According to my math...  $.40 per day for 180 days is $72.  Multiply that by 60 kids, you get $4,320.

It's not like this guy put up some chmp change.  That's a LOT of money!!

Good for him!!
 
2014-02-06 03:22:35 PM  

kimwim: bluenovaman: a socialist

And, what's wrong with being a socialist? When I was first dating my now husband, he told me he was a socialist at heart, I rolled my eyes, not knowing even what one was. Thinking he was a nutter. Now, I don't even know what would be wrong with being one, inclined to becoming one myself, taking myself off the dem rolls in town, and join the socialist party. Because it's clear what we've got now really isn't working.


What's wrong with being a socialist. Well, apart from me not wanting to work for you or anyone else who doesn't want to work, me wanting to keep what I've earned, not give it to you or the government, I'd say about a million other things...
 
2014-02-06 03:22:38 PM  
Maybe I'm in the minority of folks who wouldn't mind seeing their property taxes go up in order to ensure that school children get quality lunches served to them daily. I don't really get how that's controversial, other than folks on the right would rather live as a collection of competing self interests who only provide for their own and not their neighbor, while I would like to live in a fully functional and cooperative society... But well educated and healthy children is an inredibly important part of any successful community.
 
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