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2014-02-06 01:21:25 PM
Before this debate I was neutral on "liking" Bill Nye. Now that I know that he is burning in hell for all eternity, I kind of like him.
 
2014-02-06 01:27:36 PM
Oh yeah?
Well if man evolved from Bigfoot, why are there still Bigfoots?
 
2014-02-06 01:30:36 PM
Pretty much the same answers I came up with as I read the original list.  You have to wonder if those folks knew they were being trolled. "Hey, can you come over here and demonstrate your lack of critical thinking ability for the whole internet to see?"
 
2014-02-06 01:31:33 PM
Most of those were bullshiat canards pulled out by every creationist shill since forever. Second Law of Thermodynamics? What-EVS. The only ones I could give a pass were the ones talking about salvation and grace. While not my cuppa, they're definitely topics of discussion with their own logic and philosophy, not some cargo-cult science phrases trotted out with a smug look like "oooh, I'll show them scienticians!"
 
2014-02-06 01:32:06 PM
Apparently, the process of elimination didn't work well while choosing the list of questions.
 
2014-02-06 01:32:21 PM
Or, you could link to Phil Plait's blog, who answers these better.
 
2014-02-06 01:33:21 PM
TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.
 
2014-02-06 01:33:50 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Before this debate I was neutral on "liking" Bill Nye. Now that I know that he is burning in hell for all eternity, I kind of like him.


Bill Nye's on the very short list of people allowed to wear bow ties.
 
2014-02-06 01:35:29 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Because People in power are Stupid: Before this debate I was neutral on "liking" Bill Nye. Now that I know that he is burning in hell for all eternity, I kind of like him.

Bill Nye's on the very short list of people allowed to wear bow ties.


Matt Smith fans are among them?
 
2014-02-06 01:37:05 PM
cdn.themetapicture.com
 
2014-02-06 01:40:47 PM

scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]


You know what?  I looked at that pic like 10 times yesterday and even at her eyes and still failed to notice that one's looking about 10 degrees off-center.

OMGCAN'TLOOKAWAY, SHE'S GOT ME IN HER CLUTCHES!
 
2014-02-06 01:41:25 PM
88 lines about 44 idiots
 
2014-02-06 01:42:13 PM

Hack Patooey: Or, you could link to Phil Plait's blog, who answers these better.


Silly me, that's what I thoughts TFA was and I didn't even click it.  His breakdown is excellent, but then I'm biased so I don't know how it plays to creationists that would even pose these questions.
 
2014-02-06 01:42:29 PM

scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]


Reminds me of:

photos1.meetupstatic.com
 
2014-02-06 01:43:13 PM

scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]


My mind is full of fark
 
2014-02-06 01:43:55 PM

QU!RK1019: TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.


Well, it's not as if the sun was expecting that energy back or anything. Once the fusion happens, the photons are on their way, dude.
 
2014-02-06 01:45:14 PM

scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]

images.sodahead.com

blogs.discovermagazine.com
www.deathandtaxesmag.com

A small part of me hopes she realizes how wrong she was, if she wasn't trolling at least.
 
2014-02-06 01:46:36 PM

Wellon Dowd: 88 lines about 44 idiots


Nails it.
 
2014-02-06 01:48:30 PM

QU!RK1019: TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.


Bah, why are there no cat's on the sun in the winter?
 
2014-02-06 01:48:46 PM

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: Because People in power are Stupid: Before this debate I was neutral on "liking" Bill Nye. Now that I know that he is burning in hell for all eternity, I kind of like him.

Bill Nye's on the very short list of people allowed to wear bow ties.


Counterpoint: Nation of Islam

scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]


Whose (who's if you prefer) is no God?

/the look on her face says "that makes me moist"
 
2014-02-06 01:48:49 PM
Magnets. What the dilly-yo?
 
2014-02-06 01:49:26 PM

PirateKing: QU!RK1019: TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.

Well, it's not as if the sun was expecting that energy back or anything. Once the fusion happens, the photons are on their way, dude.


That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.
 
2014-02-06 01:53:04 PM

QU!RK1019: That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.


Just wait until we get that Dyson sphere in place. Then we'll really be cooking with gas!
 
2014-02-06 01:57:06 PM

factoryconnection: Hack Patooey: Or, you could link to Phil Plait's blog, who answers these better.

Silly me, that's what I thoughts TFA was and I didn't even click it.  His breakdown is excellent, but then I'm biased so I don't know how it plays to creationists that would even pose these questions.


It's hard to say.  You have to realize that they were told to ask these questions and told that people who believe in evolution would have no answers.  That alone might have been the biggest contribution Bill Nye made.  He showed that questions built up to be "difficult" are not and are easily explained by any reasonable person.

In reality, they would go to their religious authority who would misdirect them, put them off, etc. and they would likely accept it.  For example, "there are millions of scientists thinking about these questions and only a few creationists thinking about their answers.  I'll get back to you, but how about that scientific-industrial complex shutting out us creationists? Unfair, amirite?"  The real problem is that these people want to believe one thing and it's much easier for them to believe what they want, even when prevailing evidence contradicts it.
 
2014-02-06 01:57:34 PM

scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]


It's like staring into the depths of vacuous stupidity.
 
2014-02-06 01:59:32 PM

Wellon Dowd: QU!RK1019: That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.

Just wait until we get that Dyson sphere in place. Then we'll really be cooking with gas!


I won't live long enough. I'm stuck in this stupid Type I civilization for life. :(
 
2014-02-06 02:01:02 PM
My favorite line of questioning is
 "If we came from monkeys then why are there still monkeys?"

It probably has something to do with the fact that I didn't evolve from a monkey and evolution isn't a one way street.  I can't say the same for those asking that question, however.
 
2014-02-06 02:10:22 PM
My father is a fundamentalist/creationist  who is also a farmer that knows full well about genetics and how weeds can evolve in order to be resistant to Roundup.  I think most creationists are like this, and are not a big problem in the big scheme of science literacy.  It's the small fraction of full throttle anti-evolutionists that get on state school boards that we need to be worried about.

/The metamorphosis/evolution question was surprisingly not idiotic.
 
2014-02-06 02:11:35 PM
God created the big bang and that's that.
 
2014-02-06 02:14:41 PM

RKade: God created the big bang and that's that.


Thanks for your input
 
2014-02-06 02:15:33 PM

Tyrosine: scottydoesntknow: [cdn.themetapicture.com image 540x391]

It's like staring into the depths of vacuous stupidity.


Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.  -Friedrich Nietzsche
 
2014-02-06 02:18:35 PM

QU!RK1019: Wellon Dowd: QU!RK1019: That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.

Just wait until we get that Dyson sphere in place. Then we'll really be cooking with gas!

I won't live long enough. I'm stuck in this stupid Type I civilization for life. :(


We're not even a Level 1 civilization yet.
 
2014-02-06 02:18:38 PM

RKade: God created the big bang and that's that.


If you only go *so far* down the rabbit hole and then call it magic, it's still magic.
 
2014-02-06 02:21:42 PM

Ed Grubermann: QU!RK1019: Wellon Dowd: QU!RK1019: That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.

Just wait until we get that Dyson sphere in place. Then we'll really be cooking with gas!

I won't live long enough. I'm stuck in this stupid Type I civilization for life. :(

We're not even a Level 1 civilization yet.


Oh shiat, you're right. Damn.
 
2014-02-06 02:22:26 PM

JusticeandIndependence: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that. Thanks for your input


No problem. I don't care if you disagree. It's just my duct-tape answer to the whole belief thing. I figure I'll learn when I die, you know?

On a tertiarally related note: fark all of you atheists who talk down to people who have faith. Condescension is rude. On that note, fark all of you judgmental religious types who do exactly the same thing to people who don't believe like you do.

Moderation, balance, and all that hooey.
 
2014-02-06 02:25:53 PM

RKade: God created the big bang and that's that.


But who created God?
 
2014-02-06 02:27:31 PM

ShawnDoc: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that.

But who created God?


I'll find out when I get there. Simple as that :)
 
2014-02-06 02:29:19 PM

ShawnDoc: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that.

But who created God?


The Big Bang.

It's all cyclical.
 
2014-02-06 02:32:41 PM

ShawnDoc: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that.

But who created God?


A person that believes in divine creation and yet accepts that scientists have a handle on the whole mechanism of the universe's origin, without any sort of "that's a trick by the devil" thrown in, and you still feel compelled to challenge it?  There's not even a challenge to scientific research, education, or importance in that philosophy... that is no effect on your life even if he wrote all the laws.

Save your breath for the ones that think the "great flood" caused the Grand Canyon a few millenia ago.
 
2014-02-06 02:35:50 PM

RKade: JusticeandIndependence: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that. Thanks for your input

No problem. I don't care if you disagree. It's just my duct-tape answer to the whole belief thing. I figure I'll learn when I die, you know?

On a tertiarally related note: fark all of you atheists who talk down to people who have faith. Condescension is rude. On that note, fark all of you judgmental religious types who do exactly the same thing to people who don't believe like you do.

Moderation, balance, and all that hooey.


Less coffee
 
2014-02-06 02:37:31 PM

theorellior: Most of those were bullshiat canards pulled out by every creationist shill since forever. Second Law of Thermodynamics? What-EVS. The only ones I could give a pass were the ones talking about salvation and grace. While not my cuppa, they're definitely topics of discussion with their own logic and philosophy, not some cargo-cult science phrases trotted out with a smug look like "oooh, I'll show them scienticians!"


No, they're even more pointless and stupid; it's like asking why Darth Vader can use the Force, what does your fancy physics say about that, huh?
 
2014-02-06 02:40:52 PM

QU!RK1019: PirateKing: QU!RK1019: TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.

Well, it's not as if the sun was expecting that energy back or anything. Once the fusion happens, the photons are on their way, dude.

That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.


What a waste! We should be working on focusing all that unused energy down to Earth, so that we can be that much more efficient.
 
2014-02-06 02:45:05 PM

ciderczar: QU!RK1019: PirateKing: QU!RK1019: TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.

Well, it's not as if the sun was expecting that energy back or anything. Once the fusion happens, the photons are on their way, dude.

That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.

What a waste! We should be working on focusing all that unused energy down to Earth, so that we can be that much more efficient.


Look up that Dyson Sphere that Wellon Dowd mentioned. It's so much more than the latest in vacuum technology.
 
2014-02-06 02:45:45 PM
No matter how many times I read it an hear it explained, I will never stop marveling at the idea that there is ZERO net energy in the universe.
 
2014-02-06 02:45:51 PM
"How do you explain a sunset if their is no God?" I honestly don't understand the point of this question.
 
2014-02-06 02:53:06 PM

Wasilla Hillbilly: "How do you explain a sunset if their is no God?" I honestly don't understand the point of this question.


Eratosthenes figured that out with nothing but a stick 2300 years ago. YECs still haven't bothered using the sense god gave kimchi.
 
2014-02-06 02:55:55 PM

QU!RK1019: ciderczar: QU!RK1019: PirateKing: QU!RK1019: TFA: "So the entropy in your local part of the universe has decreased, but as long as that is accompanied by an increase in entropy somewhere else."

All life on earth represents a net loss of energy for the sun. I freaking love that idea.

Well, it's not as if the sun was expecting that energy back or anything. Once the fusion happens, the photons are on their way, dude.

That's what makes it even more mind-blowing! We've taken only the tiniest fraction of the sun's total output, and look at everything it's done here on earth. The vast majority of its energy just radiates out into space.

What a waste! We should be working on focusing all that unused energy down to Earth, so that we can be that much more efficient.

Look up that Dyson Sphere that Wellon Dowd mentioned. It's so much more than the latest in vacuum technology.


Sounds complicated. All we need is a big concave mirror on the other side of the sun. like Archimedes.
 
2014-02-06 03:06:07 PM

JusticeandIndependence: RKade: JusticeandIndependence: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that. Thanks for your input

No problem. I don't care if you disagree. It's just my duct-tape answer to the whole belief thing. I figure I'll learn when I die, you know?

On a tertiarally related note: fark all of you atheists who talk down to people who have faith. Condescension is rude. On that note, fark all of you judgmental religious types who do exactly the same thing to people who don't believe like you do.

Moderation, balance, and all that hooey.

Less coffee


I take it for my chronic gout.
 
2014-02-06 03:06:26 PM

RKade: JusticeandIndependence: RKade: God created the big bang and that's that. Thanks for your input

No problem. I don't care if you disagree. It's just my duct-tape answer to the whole belief thing. I figure I'll learn when I die, you know?

On a tertiarally related note: fark all of you atheists who talk down to people who have faith. Condescension is rude. On that note, fark all of you judgmental religious types who do exactly the same thing to people who don't believe like you do.

Moderation, balance, and all that hooey.


The irony of this post...
 
2014-02-06 03:22:18 PM
Creationists always try to use the second law,
to disprove evolution, but their theory has a flaw.
The second law is quite precise about where it applies,
only in a closed system must the entropy count rise.
The earth's not a closed system' it's powered by the sun,
so f*** the damn creationists, Doomsday get my gun!

-MC Hawking
 
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