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(CNN)   Texas judge orders "affluenza" teen into rehab. Medical experts plan to suck all the money out of his parents bank account to pay for the treatment until such time he no longer has to worry about their money   (cnn.com) divider line 135
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2014-02-06 12:09:28 PM  
Should have just given him the chair.
 
2014-02-06 12:09:38 PM  
His GEICO rates are going up.
 
2014-02-06 12:09:43 PM  
Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.
 
2014-02-06 12:09:51 PM  
This kid's one of the reasons we should build a gulag on the moon.
 
2014-02-06 12:10:28 PM  
He fought the law and he won...
 
2014-02-06 12:10:59 PM  

Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.


And it will be a nice, cushy, luxurious stay at a country club that just doesn't stock booze. He's not being punished; He's being rewarded.
 
2014-02-06 12:11:42 PM  
Just like the movie "Side Effects"

Fark him.
 
2014-02-06 12:13:07 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

And it will be a nice, cushy, luxurious stay at a country club that just doesn't stock booze. He's not being punished; He's being rewarded.


Fortunately there are still the lawsuits from all his victims, some of whom are crippled or paralyzed; they're going to be paying quite a monetary bill, even if he's not going to a jail somewhere.
 
2014-02-06 12:14:30 PM  

Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.


From last I looked, not only does the family have plenty of money, but the truck that the kid was driving belonged to the company that the parents own, and not being used for work-related purposes as stated on the insurance.  I have a feeling that after the civil courts are through with them, there's going to be enough profit to go around, which still doesn't bring back the lives of the people lost or give one of the passengers the use of the rest of their body below the eyes.
 
2014-02-06 12:15:20 PM  
Disgraceful verdict.  How much justice can you afford...
 
2014-02-06 12:15:31 PM  
I do not understand how this judge was able to give one kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash jail time and another kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash an all-expenses-paid stay at a Richie Rich salon.
 
2014-02-06 12:17:53 PM  
Reminds me of this movie
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2014-02-06 12:18:23 PM  
This asshole should be rotting in jail.
 
2014-02-06 12:18:29 PM  
They should send him to a boot camp style rehab place and not the country club one and still charge him the same.
 
2014-02-06 12:18:38 PM  
I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.
 
2014-02-06 12:19:21 PM  

Comic Book Guy: From last I looked, not only does the family have plenty of money, but the truck that the kid was driving belonged to the company that the parents own, and not being used for work-related purposes as stated on the insurance. I have a feeling that after the civil courts are through with them, there's going to be enough profit to go around, which still doesn't bring back the lives of the people lost or give one of the passengers the use of the rest of their body below the eyes


I thik texas have some hosed up laws that limit the liability of parents in cases liek this.
 
2014-02-06 12:19:26 PM  

Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.


Iseewhatyoudidthere.jpg
 
2014-02-06 12:19:27 PM  
Done in one.
 
2014-02-06 12:19:42 PM  
The cure for affluenza is forced poverty.
 
2014-02-06 12:20:06 PM  

FarkedOver: This asshole should be rotting in jail.


Yeah - he appears to be a pretty unlikable character.
 
2014-02-06 12:21:18 PM  

Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.


They aren't. Nine years ago, this very judge sentenced a kid who drove drunk (with a lower BAC mind you) and killed four people in a crash to 20 years in jail.
 
2014-02-06 12:23:16 PM  

Serious Black: I do not understand how this judge was able to give one kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash jail time and another kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash an all-expenses-paid stay at a Richie Rich salon.


Because this brat's daddy has bribe money.
 
2014-02-06 12:23:28 PM  

Comic Book Guy: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

From last I looked, not only does the family have plenty of money, but the truck that the kid was driving belonged to the company that the parents own, and not being used for work-related purposes as stated on the insurance.  I have a feeling that after the civil courts are through with them, there's going to be enough profit to go around, which still doesn't bring back the lives of the people lost or give one of the passengers the use of the rest of their body below the eyes.



Wasn't that one one of the passengers in the car? I don't much see a difference in guilt here between the drunk driver and his buddy who was getting drunk with him and decided to ride around in the car. I guess legally he isn't responsible for the deaths. But morally, I don't see the difference. Of course, unlike his friend, he is facing consequences from his actions because he was crippled. But it could have worked out the other way around. I'm not entirely sure that he/his family should get any farking money. Specially if it comes from the pot for the other victims.
 
2014-02-06 12:24:05 PM  

Serious Black: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.

They aren't. Nine years ago, this very judge sentenced a kid who drove drunk (with a lower BAC mind you) and killed four people in a crash to 20 years in jail.


Oh then fark everyone involved in the ass with a cactus.
 
2014-02-06 12:24:11 PM  
Beat him with a sack full of coins, then run him over with an armored truck.

/ironic punishment division
 
2014-02-06 12:25:29 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

And it will be a nice, cushy, luxurious stay at a country club that just doesn't stock booze. He's not being punished; He's being rewarded.


He'll also make some very valuable connections there, if he networks properly.
 
2014-02-06 12:26:15 PM  

Mell of a Hess: FarkedOver: This asshole should be rotting in jail.

Yeah - he appears to be a pretty unlikable character.


The judge should be right there with him.
 
2014-02-06 12:26:24 PM  
So he got drunk, drove a car and killed 4 people and got no jail time?

Too bad he didn't get caught doing something really bad like possess 4 oz of marijuana.  That comes with a mandatory minimum 6 months in jail in Texas.
 
2014-02-06 12:27:02 PM  

Serious Black: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.

They aren't. Nine years ago, this very judge sentenced a kid who drove drunk (with a lower BAC mind you) and killed four people in a crash to 20 years in jail.


As noted in the other, redlit thread where we were discussing this, the situations are different. One was a drunk driver, the other stole a car.
 
2014-02-06 12:27:14 PM  
I don't think this stupid kid should rot in jail for the rest of his life. he farked up like a lot of us did as teens. he was just really unlucky
I do think he should be punished in some way. and his parents should be hammered $.
my real problem is the whole argument that justice you get is the justice you can afford.
but I've learned that that is what America is built on, and it will NEVER change.
the poor get hammered because they have no advocates, the rich will always walk away.
 
2014-02-06 12:27:35 PM  
effluent - were done here.
 
2014-02-06 12:28:53 PM  

Theaetetus: Serious Black: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.

They aren't. Nine years ago, this very judge sentenced a kid who drove drunk (with a lower BAC mind you) and killed four people in a crash to 20 years in jail.

As noted in the other, redlit thread where we were discussing this, the situations are different. One was a drunk driver, the other stole a car.


Also, drunk driver pled guilty and showed remorse, car thief plead innocent.
 
2014-02-06 12:29:13 PM  
So, the kid gets off from killing four innocent people, and farking up two more, one who has a traumatic brain injury, and can't move. And he gets 0 days in jail. WTF. Just because his family is rich. And really? The best the defense could come up with is "he's a spoiled rich kid who doesn't know any better". Really? And..he gets sent to some "hospital" with internet, probably anything he wants to eat, and gets out after a few weeks when he is "cured". Bullshiat. If this had been your basic person on the streets, they would be looking at life in prison. I would like to see the jugdes bank account statement, someone is getting favors, or...paid. What a crock of shiat. I'm surprised that the surviving family members didnt jump the judge and tear his head off.
 
2014-02-06 12:29:57 PM  
So, when Texas tries to rehabilitate instead of punish someone - Farkers gets upset. When Texas punishes someone instead of rehabilitate them - Farkers gets upset.
 
2014-02-06 12:30:04 PM  

lennavan: So he got drunk, drove a car and killed 4 people and got no jail time?

Too bad he didn't get caught doing something really bad like possess 4 oz of marijuana.  That comes with a mandatory minimum 6 months in jail in Texas.


If you're black, it does.
 
2014-02-06 12:30:55 PM  

the money is in the banana stand: So, when Texas tries to rehabilitate instead of punish someone - Farkers gets upset. When Texas punishes someone instead of rehabilitate them - Farkers gets upset.


It may not be the same Farkers each time.
 
2014-02-06 12:31:13 PM  

mattharvest: ZeroCorpse: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

And it will be a nice, cushy, luxurious stay at a country club that just doesn't stock booze. He's not being punished; He's being rewarded.

Fortunately there are still the lawsuits from all his victims, some of whom are crippled or paralyzed; they're going to be paying quite a monetary bill, even if he's not going to a jail somewhere.


to say nothing of a second set of criminal charges based on the people who were hurt in HIS car.  (how they get around seeing both sets of injuries as a "common criminal transaction" for double jeopardy purposes I don;t know)
 
2014-02-06 12:31:22 PM  

Serious Black: I do not understand how this judge was able to give one kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash jail time and another kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash an all-expenses-paid stay at a Richie Rich salon.


You answered your own question.
 
2014-02-06 12:33:39 PM  
please be honest, everyone who wants this kid strung up, and has never drove drunk, not once, raise your hand.
 
2014-02-06 12:34:23 PM  

mattharvest: ZeroCorpse: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

And it will be a nice, cushy, luxurious stay at a country club that just doesn't stock booze. He's not being punished; He's being rewarded.

Fortunately there are still the lawsuits from all his victims, some of whom are crippled or paralyzed; they're going to be paying quite a monetary bill, even if he's not going to a jail somewhere.


Money isn't justice. Vengeance isn't justice either.

Then again, we could make Affluenza sufferer pay his victims care for life. Also add in a stipend (inflation adjusted) for the family, for life.

Oh, and he has to spend 1 (8 hour) day per week, to volunteer at a homeless shelter.
 
2014-02-06 12:34:28 PM  

ZeroCorpse: This kid's one of the reasons we should build a gulag on the moon.


send whores thounsands and thousands, i mary em i betcha!
 
2014-02-06 12:34:35 PM  

Bit'O'Gristle: So, the kid gets off from killing four innocent people, and farking up two more, one who has a traumatic brain injury, and can't move. And he gets 0 days in jail. WTF. Just because his family is rich. And really? The best the defense could come up with is "he's a spoiled rich kid who doesn't know any better". Really? And..he gets sent to some "hospital" with internet, probably anything he wants to eat, and gets out after a few weeks when he is "cured". Bullshiat. If this had been your basic person on the streets, they would be looking at life in prison. I would like to see the jugdes bank account statement, someone is getting favors, or...paid. What a crock of shiat. I'm surprised that the surviving family members didnt jump the judge and tear his head off.


The judge in question is, somewhat unexpectedly , taking an early retirement.  And franklyit's pretty wll known among lawyers that the Texas judiciary is corrupt as all hell, in part because of the very lax campaign finance rules for judicial elections
 
2014-02-06 12:34:45 PM  

Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.


As much as I like to give the judge "I see what you did there" and pave the way for civil suits galore, I'm hoping his probation is tripwire short which ANY farkup puts him in PMITA Prison.
 
2014-02-06 12:34:51 PM  

kbronsito: Comic Book Guy: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

From last I looked, not only does the family have plenty of money, but the truck that the kid was driving belonged to the company that the parents own, and not being used for work-related purposes as stated on the insurance.  I have a feeling that after the civil courts are through with them, there's going to be enough profit to go around, which still doesn't bring back the lives of the people lost or give one of the passengers the use of the rest of their body below the eyes.


Wasn't that one one of the passengers in the car? I don't much see a difference in guilt here between the drunk driver and his buddy who was getting drunk with him and decided to ride around in the car. I guess legally he isn't responsible for the deaths. But morally, I don't see the difference. Of course, unlike his friend, he is facing consequences from his actions because he was crippled. But it could have worked out the other way around. I'm not entirely sure that he/his family should get any farking money. Specially if it comes from the pot for the other victims.


There might not be a difference in criminal guilt, but I'd be willing to bet my GED in Law that there's a difference in civil liability.
 
2014-02-06 12:36:30 PM  
Actively shielding a normal person from consequences is bad for them and those around them.

Shielding a sociopath from consequences is that much worse.

Inexorably the consequences catch up to the offender. But at the cost of carnage inflicted on other people.

It's better to start exposing the actor to consequences so they understand that all actions have consequences. Both they and those around them will suffer less as a result.
 
2014-02-06 12:37:35 PM  

mattharvest: ZeroCorpse: Mell of a Hess: Submitter - That was the impression I got when I heard that they are required to send him to a "very expensive" rehab facility.

Hit 'em in the pocketbook.

The only problem is that this overpriced sanctuary for those afflicted with effluenza will profit.

And it will be a nice, cushy, luxurious stay at a country club that just doesn't stock booze. He's not being punished; He's being rewarded.

Fortunately there are still the lawsuits from all his victims, some of whom are crippled or paralyzed; they're going to be paying quite a monetary bill, even if he's not going to a jail somewhere.


I'm hoping this is what the judge had in mind:

m5.paperblog.com

"Enjoy your jelly donut rehab, kid. Your parents will be living in a cardboard box by the time you leave."
 
2014-02-06 12:37:54 PM  

kbronsito: Wasn't that one one of the passengers in the car? I don't much see a difference in guilt here between the drunk driver and his buddy who was getting drunk with him and decided to ride around in the car. I guess legally he isn't responsible for the deaths. But morally, I don't see the difference.


I was always taught the driver is responsible for everyone in the car.  So the moment you get behind the wheel, everything is 100% on you and 0% on everyone else.  If they do something stupid, you pull that car over right now, mister.
 
2014-02-06 12:38:00 PM  

Theaetetus: Theaetetus: Serious Black: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.

They aren't. Nine years ago, this very judge sentenced a kid who drove drunk (with a lower BAC mind you) and killed four people in a crash to 20 years in jail.

As noted in the other, redlit thread where we were discussing this, the situations are different. One was a drunk driver, the other stole a car.

Also, drunk driver pled guilty and showed remorse, car thief plead innocent.


They were both drunk. One had a BAC of 0.24 and the other had a BAC of 0.11.

I'm pretty sure I would consider taking a car that belongs to my father's business on a drunken joyride to be stealing regardless of whether charges were pressed. If stealing a car from a person you don't know elevates killing four people from a misdemeanor to a felony but stealing a car from a person you know intimately keeps it a misdemeanor, then the law is moronic.

As for the last point, I refuse to defend subjecting people to higher penalties and punishments because they chose to exercise their constitutional right to a trial by jury.
 
2014-02-06 12:38:10 PM  

Serious Black: I do not understand how this judge was able to give one kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash jail time and another kid who drove drunk and killed four people in a crash an all-expenses-paid stay at a Richie Rich salon.


I'm $ure $he had her rea$on$.
 
2014-02-06 12:38:28 PM  

Theaetetus: Serious Black: Barry Lyndon's Annuity Cheque: I read somewhere that this is just a quirk of how Texas's juvenile courts are set up, and the judge's hands are tied on doing something more significant, but I
have no idea how accurate that is.

They aren't. Nine years ago, this very judge sentenced a kid who drove drunk (with a lower BAC mind you) and killed four people in a crash to 20 years in jail.

As noted in the other, redlit thread where we were discussing this, the situations are different. One was a drunk driver, the other stole a car.


No, the situations are not very different.  Both resulted in a drunk driver killing several people.  I can't see how the car being stolen makes one crime worth 20 years and the other crime worth rehab.
 
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