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(Politico)   Left-wing idol-of-the-month Wendy Davis supports Texas open-carry gun law, becomes right-wing idol-of-the-month   (politico.com) divider line 542
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2014-02-06 10:01:28 AM

Nadie_AZ: So you could say her gun views are liberal, right?


No, only her claims about what her position is are liberal. That is, meaningless, unenforceable if she is elected and pandering. "If you like your plan you can keep your plan."
 
2014-02-06 10:01:54 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.


Well that's a straw man if ever I saw one.  Where's it on the list that you can't bring your car into NYC?  Or a can of gasoline?  Where is it that you have to have a permit to sell your used car?  Or that you can't sell more than four used cars in a year unless you're a dealer?  Or that you have to report the sale to the authorities?  Where is it that you have to wait to purchase a car while they run a background check on you?  Where is it that you can't purchase a car if you were in a mental institution in the last five years?  Where is it that you can't buy a car if you've been convicted of assault (or reckless driving, etc.)?  Where is it that you can't own a car if you're under 18?  Where is it that you're required to secure your vehicle and keys if anyone in your house is under 14?

And yes, the list goes on.
 
2014-02-06 10:02:04 AM

sdd2000: Pappas: Wow... it's almost as if there's no litmus test or loyalty oath needed to be a Democrat. Like... it's a party made up of many points of view, from liberal (Cardin, Boxer, Gillibrand), Progressives (Grayson, Conyers), to left leaning moderates (H. Clinton, Obama, Nelson), strict moderates (McCaskill, Carper), right leaning moderates (Wendy Davis, Mark Warner), and conservatives (Pryor, Landrieu, Barber, Barrow).

Funny how that works.

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers or was it Rand Paul?


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It was Dumbledore.
 
2014-02-06 10:02:15 AM
Funny thing is, 40% of us libs Libs LIBS own guns.  Some of us are just as armed as you are.
 
2014-02-06 10:03:10 AM

Nemo's Brother: The useful idiots who will jump in behind every politician they like, are not happy about it. They are still mad and confused that they have to defend gun rights now.


Uh...

Dinki: I'm purty darn Liberal. If you have a legally owned gun, that is registered and you have had proper training, then you should be able to open carry.


gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.


BunkoSquad: Here's another lib who's fine with open carry, on the theory that you maybe can't judge a book by its cover, but a candy bar wrapper that says "NUTS" on the outside is a pretty good clue what might be inside


Arkanaut: Personally I've always been for open carrying.  A lot of my more conservative friends always make the case that guns deter crime ("an armed society is a polite society") -- if so, why not carry your gun openly?

In fact I thought the more contentious debate has always been about concealed carrying -- isn't that why a lot of states require licenses for that?


LouDobbsAwaaaay: And yet the left isn't fleeing from her.  Which really just shows that the right-wing's "thar gunna take mah metal peenus away!!!" hysteria about the left is just more right-wing bullshiat.


HeartBurnKid: For some reason, most of those people (at least most of the ones I hear from) are conservative.

/libby lib lib
//just fine with open carry


Do you ever argue with liberals who aren't inside your own head, Nemo?
 
2014-02-06 10:03:11 AM

sdd2000: Pappas: Wow... it's almost as if there's no litmus test or loyalty oath needed to be a Democrat. Like... it's a party made up of many points of view, from liberal (Cardin, Boxer, Gillibrand), Progressives (Grayson, Conyers), to left leaning moderates (H. Clinton, Obama, Nelson), strict moderates (McCaskill, Carper), right leaning moderates (Wendy Davis, Mark Warner), and conservatives (Pryor, Landrieu, Barber, Barrow).

Funny how that works.

"I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Democrat." - Will Rogers or was it Rand Paul?


I dunno. I always thought it was Shia Labeouf.
 
2014-02-06 10:03:17 AM

dittybopper: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

And I could own a gun without needing a license if I only used it on private property, and if I chose to carry in public, my license to carry would be honored by all 50 states and every single town and city.  I wouldn't face arrest in New York City (and state), New Jersey, or Chicago because I was carrying on a concealed carry license issued in my home state.


I'm dumb about this maybe - but is there a downside to what you just described? I'm not seeing it.
 
2014-02-06 10:03:21 AM
I like to refer to the open-carry folks as Doomsday LARPers.
 
2014-02-06 10:04:59 AM

dittybopper: In that context, it's about self-defense. If you are carrying a gun for self-defense*, the idea is that you have to carry it pretty much all the time where allowed for it to be useful.


no, you seem to be confused

you said that there is an objective method for determining how much gun is enough and i am asking the parameters that go into figuring that objective capability. we already assumed for sake of argument that i decided i need to pack a gun to go get my tires rotated, thats why the question is how much gun to pack for that and how that amount of gun changes if i also stop to get some singapore noodles

it is not complicated yet please dont get lost this early
 
2014-02-06 10:06:39 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.


Under this licensing scheme, would a race car be an equivalent to a fully automatic weapon? I can own a modern racecar, I cannot own a modern fully automatic weapon.  Or would you leave the current restrictions on fully automatic firearms in place?  Either way I'm mostly in agreement.  I'm not sure I'd like the pricing on liability insurance for a firearm.
 
2014-02-06 10:07:12 AM

WTF Indeed: It surprises people that demand purity on stances if you're going to be a liberal hero. Same thing that happens to Teabaggers who differ on some issues.


Who's demanding purity?  Aside from subby's concern trolling, I don't think anyone cares.  I think open carry is dumb, but it's Texas.
 
2014-02-06 10:08:31 AM

dr_blasto: In my mind, I expect Texas to have Texas-style gun laws. It always weirds me out a little when I hear what their laws actually are. I expect Texas, of all places, to be all about open-carry. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised for constitutional carry. But the tight-ass laws just don't fit.


How does Texas NOT have open-carry? That picture of Gov. Perry firing a gun over his head...was that illegal? Or is only open-firing legal in Texas.
 
2014-02-06 10:09:46 AM
LOL. It's funny cuz libs hate guns and freedumb!
 
2014-02-06 10:10:15 AM
Nice try libs, but she only carries a firearm so she can abort babies easier than if she carries a crock pot.
 
2014-02-06 10:10:18 AM

Dimensio: If one particular behaviour trait upset both myself and my previous boyfriend, it is homophobia.


do you think i would at all care if you are gay or not? do you really think i would suddenly go 'oh sir i did not know oh please let me excuse your hilariously idiotic behavior and condescending shiatposts because if you are gay you cannot possibly be spouting homophobic nonsense feel free to tell people they must like dicks if they disagree with you all day long if it pleases you'
 
2014-02-06 10:11:37 AM

Dimensio: For what reason should concealed carry be illegal?


Conceal carrying while hispanic or black?
 
2014-02-06 10:11:45 AM

sprawl15: Dimensio: If one particular behaviour trait upset both myself and my previous boyfriend, it is homophobia.

do you think i would at all care if you are gay or not? do you really think i would suddenly go 'oh sir i did not know oh please let me excuse your hilariously idiotic behavior and condescending shiatposts because if you are gay you cannot possibly be spouting homophobic nonsense feel free to tell people they must like dicks if they disagree with you all day long if it pleases you'


Your attempt to insult me in no way alters the fact that referencing male genitalia within a discussion of firearms, as Muta did, is both inappropriate and demonstrative of an obsession with male genitalia.
 
2014-02-06 10:11:50 AM

jso2897: dittybopper: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

And I could own a gun without needing a license if I only used it on private property, and if I chose to carry in public, my license to carry would be honored by all 50 states and every single town and city.  I wouldn't face arrest in New York City (and state), New Jersey, or Chicago because I was carrying on a concealed carry license issued in my home state.

I'm dumb about this maybe - but is there a downside to what you just described? I'm not seeing it.


There isn't a downside.  It is reasonable and intelegent so we will never do it.
 
2014-02-06 10:12:05 AM

Tyrano Soros: Nice try libs, but she only carries a firearm so she can abort babies easier than if she carries a crock pot.


If she didn't have a gun she would find something else to satisfy her fetal bloodlust.
 
2014-02-06 10:13:03 AM

dittybopper: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

And I could own a gun without needing a license if I only used it on private property, and if I chose to carry in public, my license to carry would be honored by all 50 states and every single town and city.  I wouldn't face arrest in New York City (and state), New Jersey, or Chicago because I was carrying on a concealed carry license issued in my home state.


Title and tag at each point of transfer, and we can shake on it.
 
2014-02-06 10:14:09 AM

dittybopper: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

And I could own a gun without needing a license if I only used it on private property, and if I chose to carry in public, my license to carry would be honored by all 50 states and every single town and city.  I wouldn't face arrest in New York City (and state), New Jersey, or Chicago because I was carrying on a concealed carry license issued in my home state.


And just like you have to follow the local traffic laws, you follow the local firearm laws.
 
2014-02-06 10:14:56 AM

Dimensio: sprawl15: Dimensio: If one particular behaviour trait upset both myself and my previous boyfriend, it is homophobia.

do you think i would at all care if you are gay or not? do you really think i would suddenly go 'oh sir i did not know oh please let me excuse your hilariously idiotic behavior and condescending shiatposts because if you are gay you cannot possibly be spouting homophobic nonsense feel free to tell people they must like dicks if they disagree with you all day long if it pleases you'

Your attempt to insult me in no way alters the fact that referencing male genitalia within a discussion of firearms, as Muta did, is both inappropriate and demonstrative of an obsession with male genitalia.


Pretending you don't understand why some posters make mocking/joking Freudian interpretations of others' obsession with firearms is intellectually dishonest.
 
2014-02-06 10:15:19 AM

Dimensio: Your attempt to insult me in no way alters the fact that referencing male genitalia within a discussion of firearms, as Muta did, is both inappropriate and demonstrative of an obsession with male genitalia.


Sir, you yourself are referencing male genetalia within a discussion of firearms, and I find this inappropriate and rude.  Your obsession with the male undercarriage and your declarations of sexual deviance have no place in this conversation.
 
2014-02-06 10:15:29 AM

Saiga410: jso2897: dittybopper: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

And I could own a gun without needing a license if I only used it on private property, and if I chose to carry in public, my license to carry would be honored by all 50 states and every single town and city.  I wouldn't face arrest in New York City (and state), New Jersey, or Chicago because I was carrying on a concealed carry license issued in my home state.

I'm dumb about this maybe - but is there a downside to what you just described? I'm not seeing it.

There isn't a downside.  It is reasonable and intelegent so we will never do it.


One problem I do see - the Motor Vehicle codes we are using as a model here are state laws, and even they are not uniform accross the board. So I think getting there would be an incremental process - state by state - like gay marriage.
I can't see this happening on some sort of national referendum.
 
2014-02-06 10:16:31 AM

Epic Fap Session: Pretending you don't understand why some posters make mocking/joking Freudian interpretations of others' obsession with firearms is intellectually dishonest.


i am sure he is looking up several peer reviewed studies that support his hypothesis of "lol u liek dicks"
 
2014-02-06 10:18:21 AM

Epic Fap Session: Tyrano Soros: Nice try libs, but she only carries a firearm so she can abort babies easier than if she carries a crock pot.

If she didn't have a gun she would find something else to satisfy her fetal bloodlust.



Crossbows are so much more time intensive. Guns are clearly the answer here.
 
2014-02-06 10:18:37 AM

Dinki: I'm purty darn Liberal. If you have a legally owned gun, that is registered and you have had proper training, then you should be able to open carry. Out in the country, in your own yard, in your car, at the range, when you are hunting, or at a gun show or other gun related event. If you carry it into a mall, a farmers market, or down main street, where the sole effect is to shock and frighten people, then you get arrested for disturbing the peace. The 2nd amendment doesn't give you the right to be an attention  whore asshat.


Done in one, last one out get the lights...
 
2014-02-06 10:18:47 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: dittybopper: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

And I could own a gun without needing a license if I only used it on private property, and if I chose to carry in public, my license to carry would be honored by all 50 states and every single town and city.  I wouldn't face arrest in New York City (and state), New Jersey, or Chicago because I was carrying on a concealed carry license issued in my home state.

Title and tag at each point of transfer, and we can shake on it.


And to get concealed carry would require a slightly tougher test, like you would have if you were getting a CDL or chauffeur's license. And a CCL would be required to work any job that requires you to carry a firearm.
 
2014-02-06 10:19:20 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.


Does "Health Requirements" refer to the vision test? I thought that was kind of a big omission until I looked over it a bit more.
 
2014-02-06 10:19:28 AM
I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.
 
2014-02-06 10:20:23 AM

sprawl15: Epic Fap Session: Pretending you don't understand why some posters make mocking/joking Freudian interpretations of others' obsession with firearms is intellectually dishonest.

i am sure he is looking up several peer reviewed studies that support his hypothesis of "lol u liek dicks"


This is the Internet - it's all about penises, and any component of it that isn't about penises is about boobies or vaginas.
If we are going to place artificial parameters on our discussions, they needs be realistic.
 
2014-02-06 10:22:20 AM

Arkanaut: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

Does "Health Requirements" refer to the vision test? I thought that was kind of a big omission until I looked over it a bit more.


Mental health, too. Physician certifies.
 
2014-02-06 10:22:21 AM

jso2897: Meh - it's not exactly the only shopworn, dumbass meme on the internets.


It's *THE* canonical (cannonical?) shopworn, dumb-ass meme.  It's been around since long *BEFORE* the farkin' internet.

In fact, it was an old meme back in 1976 when Barry Bruce-Briggs wrote "The Great American Gun War", and he comments on it at length pointing out that it was a shopworn cliche even back then, but a cliche with no actual scientific support whatsoever.

It's bankrupt, and it's been known to be so for, what, nearly 40 years now?

I mean, come on.  Use something that doesn't date to the time before personal computers.
 
2014-02-06 10:22:22 AM

AntiGravitas: I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.


How about you just be a good person and not fark with anybody?
 
2014-02-06 10:22:34 AM
Open carry even makes those who are not carrying a lot safer. If someone does start shooting, who do you think is going to absorb the first bullets? The rest of us will have time to take cover.
 
2014-02-06 10:25:17 AM

Semi-Semetic: demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.

Under this licensing scheme, would a race car be an equivalent to a fully automatic weapon? I can own a modern racecar, I cannot own a modern fully automatic weapon.  Or would you leave the current restrictions on fully automatic firearms in place?  Either way I'm mostly in agreement.  I'm not sure I'd like the pricing on liability insurance for a firearm.


If you're not a felon and you have the proper license and have paid the fees, you most certainly can own an automatic firearm.
 
2014-02-06 10:25:21 AM

AntiGravitas: I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.


Isn't it easier not to fark with anybody?
 
2014-02-06 10:25:47 AM

Muta: Johnny_Whistle: Nabb1: Muta: As the liberalist libtard that ever libbed, I am more comfortable with open carry over concealed.  Open carry show you who the small-penissed paranoid morons are whereas concealed carry conceals the small penises.

Why do some people fixate on gun owners' penises? I have a gun. So now you are thinking about my penis. That's weird. I don't even know you, and right now, you are drawing a mental picture about my penis because I just said I own a gun. Creep.

Your penis sounds small.

Most people will deny they have a small penis when posting to internet forums.  Funny thing though, small penised people always support concealed carry.  It's a scientific fact.


You've done a lot of field research on that, have you?
 
2014-02-06 10:26:17 AM

dittybopper: jso2897: Meh - it's not exactly the only shopworn, dumbass meme on the internets.

It's *THE* canonical (cannonical?) shopworn, dumb-ass meme.  It's been around since long *BEFORE* the farkin' internet.

In fact, it was an old meme back in 1976 when Barry Bruce-Briggs wrote "The Great American Gun War", and he comments on it at length pointing out that it was a shopworn cliche even back then, but a cliche with no actual scientific support whatsoever.

It's bankrupt, and it's been known to be so for, what, nearly 40 years now?

I mean, come on.  Use something that doesn't date to the time before personal computers.


All, true - but on the other hand, this is the internets. A "no penises" policy on internet discussions is probably doomed to failure at it's inception. Ii can't instruct others, of course - but I see laughter as the best medicine in this case. When it stops getting angry reactions, it will be replaced by some new stupidity.
 
2014-02-06 10:26:19 AM
Generally speaking, southern liberals are more comfortable with guns than our northern counterparts. Most of us were raised around guns and were taught how to shoot and about gun safety from a very young age (I was 8 years old when I fired my first gun).

That's not to say that we don't support common sense restrictions on who carries them and where but it's uncommon to find a liberal down here that supports New York style gun laws.
 
2014-02-06 10:28:32 AM

Epic Fap Session: Dimensio: sprawl15: Dimensio: If one particular behaviour trait upset both myself and my previous boyfriend, it is homophobia.

do you think i would at all care if you are gay or not? do you really think i would suddenly go 'oh sir i did not know oh please let me excuse your hilariously idiotic behavior and condescending shiatposts because if you are gay you cannot possibly be spouting homophobic nonsense feel free to tell people they must like dicks if they disagree with you all day long if it pleases you'

Your attempt to insult me in no way alters the fact that referencing male genitalia within a discussion of firearms, as Muta did, is both inappropriate and demonstrative of an obsession with male genitalia.

Pretending you don't understand why some posters make mocking/joking Freudian interpretations of others' obsession with firearms is intellectually dishonest.


I do understand the reason: unable to present any rational argumentation, they instead attempt to shift the subject of discussion to an irrelevant topic with which they are obsessed, and they project their obsession onto those with whom they disagree.
 
2014-02-06 10:28:45 AM

sdd2000: AntiGravitas: I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.

Isn't it easier not to fark with anybody?


joness0154: AntiGravitas: I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.

How about you just be a good person and not fark with anybody?


Ok, ok, but the point was less about the farking with people and being aware of who is loaded.  I would rather be aware than unaware.
 
2014-02-06 10:29:53 AM
There are seven shades of grey just on the Fark favorite bar. Even Fark trolls are afforded more nuance than the gun debate in America.

/and that's all I have to say about that
 
2014-02-06 10:30:33 AM

Snapper Carr: Generally speaking, southern liberals are more comfortable with guns than our northern counterparts. Most of us were raised around guns and were taught how to shoot and about gun safety from a very young age (I was 8 years old when I fired my first gun).

That's not to say that we don't support common sense restrictions on who carries them and where but it's uncommon to find a liberal down here that supports New York style gun laws.


fark, I'm a New York liberal and I don't support New York style gun laws. Sure, I grew up in rural PA, but I never shot save for a blank-firing theater pistol. My parents weren't hunters. They were SCA nerds, though, so I learned how to use a recurve bow and throw knives and hatchets, which is rad.

This city is a pretty big pain in the ass for a few laws, including gun regulations. I'd love to keep a nice pistol in a lockbox for range shooting (and to learn range shooting), but it's too much mishugas around here. And a bit expensive for my budget...
 
2014-02-06 10:30:37 AM

TheBigJerk: HeartBurnKid: WTF Indeed: xanadian: Uh. She's Texan. Her open-carry stance surprises people??

It surprises people that demand purity on stances if you're going to be a liberal hero

For some reason, most of those people (at least most of the ones I hear from) are conservative.

/libby lib lib
//just fine with open carry

Concern trolls are just so VERY concerned.  Plenty of Democrats are pro-gun, only the NRA's partisan and racism-fueled psychoses say otherwise.


There are plenty of Democrats that are pro-gun but pro-gun Democrat Politicians are an endangered species. When you spot one in the wild you can be pretty sure it is just wearing camouflage. Their own party bosses consider them traitors.
 
2014-02-06 10:31:17 AM

jso2897: I'm dumb about this maybe - but is there a downside to what you just described? I'm not seeing it.


For one thing, it would pretty much wipe out all the local gun control laws that prohibit or highly restrict the carrying of concealed weapons.

I would *LOVE* for guns to be treated like cars, because it would result in a significant *LOOSENING* of the laws in my state.

But that's not what those proposals usually mean.  Generally, when people talk about treating guns like cars, what they really mean is that they want significantly stricter requirements on guns than we have on car ownership.   They want something like NYC, where getting permission to carry a gun for self-protection is nigh on impossible unless you are very rich and/or politically well connected.
 
2014-02-06 10:31:28 AM

Dimensio: I do understand the reason: unable to present any rational argumentation, they instead attempt to shift the subject of discussion to an irrelevant topic with which they are obsessed, and they project their obsession onto those with whom they disagree.


You're really taking the fun out of lame dick jokes...
 
2014-02-06 10:32:30 AM

Dancin_In_Anson: cman: If people had their way there it would he required for one to carry a gun in public.

What's the crime rate like in Kennesaw?


About average for the affluency level regardless of gun laws?

What do I win?
 
2014-02-06 10:33:02 AM

demaL-demaL-yeH: Doom MD: gilgigamesh: Put this libbie lib socialist down for a hearty "meh" as well.

I'm for some restrictions on guns, mainly that I think they should be treated like cars.

But open carry? Seems like a pretty basic right to me.

Treating guns like cars would actually really remove a lot of restrictions on guns

[kennedystarbucks.files.wordpress.com image 500x675]
OK.


Can we do that with speech?
 
2014-02-06 10:33:28 AM

AntiGravitas: sdd2000: AntiGravitas: I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.

Isn't it easier not to fark with anybody?

joness0154: AntiGravitas: I've always preferred open-carry to concealed carry.  I want to know who NOT to fark with.

How about you just be a good person and not fark with anybody?

Ok, ok, but the point was less about the farking with people and being aware of who is loaded.  I would rather be aware than unaware.


If the person is a good, law abiding citizen, what would it matter?  I guarantee you are around many individuals who are lawfully carrying concealed firearms and haven't bothered you at all.
 
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