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(New Europe)   Eight months after Twitter was called "a menace to society" Turkey which wants to get into the EU badly passes a law that tightens its control over the Internet. So no cursing guys   (neurope.eu) divider line 49
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2014-02-06 08:49:16 AM
F*ck you, Turkey.
 
2014-02-06 08:52:11 AM
Adverbs and other modifiers, Subby. How do they work?
 
2014-02-06 08:52:18 AM
I had to read the headline about 5 times to figure out what it was saying. Good jorb.
 
2014-02-06 08:54:47 AM
The time for Turkey and the EU has long since passed.
 
2014-02-06 08:55:00 AM
This is a request for grammar police.
 
2014-02-06 09:00:21 AM
Came to see that the grammar was commented upon, see that it has. Carry on, all.

Also, how is it ironic? Wouldn't it be more "duh"?
 
2014-02-06 09:03:10 AM
How do you badly pass a law?
 
2014-02-06 09:04:49 AM
Never has a headline been in such dire need of commas.
 
2014-02-06 09:10:28 AM
It does give rise to impure thoughts.

i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-06 09:11:42 AM
I badly passed some turkey the other day while I was cleaning out the fridge with leftovers of the holidays.
 
2014-02-06 09:14:20 AM
Don't be a menace to South Istanbul while drinking your Raki in Grand Bazaar.
 
2014-02-06 09:15:25 AM
It's called a comma. Learn to use it, please.
 
2014-02-06 09:17:19 AM
Gobble gobble.
 
2014-02-06 09:23:22 AM

elkev: The time for Turkey and the EU has long since passed.


This. It's never going to happen. The recent riots were the final nail in the coffin for their membership.
 
2014-02-06 09:28:38 AM
DubtodaIll:

I badly passed some turkey the other day while I was cleaning out the fridge with leftovers of the holidays.

Unless the holiday you're speaking of is Chinese New Year's, I am pretty sure any fridge leftovers you're just now eating from the holidays will in fact pass badly.

Very, very badly.
 
2014-02-06 09:30:08 AM
FTFA: The new law will let the Turkish telecommunications authority block websites without a court order, provided the site violates privacy or its content is deemed to be "insulting."

As long as your government can shut down anything it doesn't like, you can sit in the back of the room with the rest of the hateful, misogynistic dickbags from your part of the world. Once you f#ckers struggle your way into the 14th century, you can ask again.
 
2014-02-06 09:31:08 AM
I am jack's lack of grammar
 
2014-02-06 09:31:42 AM

Molavian: F*ck you, Turkey.

 
2014-02-06 09:32:29 AM

maxheck: DubtodaIll:

I badly passed some turkey the other day while I was cleaning out the fridge with leftovers of the holidays.

Unless the holiday you're speaking of is Chinese New Year's, I am pretty sure any fridge leftovers you're just now eating from the holidays will in fact pass badly.

Very, very badly.


I know that now but I was right next to hungry.
 
2014-02-06 09:35:17 AM
Did you guys hear that Neil Degrasse Tyson trolled Gravity in Twitter and it's pretty hilarious?
 
2014-02-06 09:40:51 AM

Molavian: F*ck you, Turkey.


Don't you mean "Get stuffed, Turkey?"
 
2014-02-06 09:42:05 AM
Barricaded Gunman:

FTFA: The new law will let the Turkish telecommunications authority block websites without a court order, provided the site violates privacy or its content is deemed to be "insulting."

As long as your government can shut down anything it doesn't like, you can sit in the back of the room with the rest of the hateful, misogynistic dickbags from your part of the world. Once you f#ckers struggle your way into the 14th century, you can ask again.


Sad part being, Turkey used to be held up as a model progressive, secular Asian democracy.

Then the Teabaggers took over...
 
2014-02-06 09:58:08 AM
In other news, this guy Erdogan (the PM) wasn't such a shiathead when he first took power - he resolved issues with the Kurds, got the Turkish economy back on its feet, and improved education dramatically - there's a university in every province of Turkey now and textbooks are free. He also reformed the Turkish constitution in 2010, improving it to fall more in line with the EU standards.

The problem is that more recently, he's turned more towards being an authoritarian shiathead. He still hates Armenians, tearing down a sculpture that promoted peace between the countries. The government has exerted more and more control over the media, adding in restrictions to freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, censorship of television and internet content, and developing business/economic levers to use on the media companies.

Now, these initial protests all started over a redevelopment program in Istanbul. Basically, the government wanted to build a mosque, bulldoze a park, and I think put in a new bridge. The administrative board that's supposed to review these decisions told them no. The government put pressure on them to allow it, and got a higher tribunal to reverse the decision. This pissed people off, and an Occupy-style camp was put up in the park to stop the destruction.

At this point, it appears that the government loses its farking mind. There's like 50 people hanging in the park stopping bulldozers, and the government calls out the goon squad, tear gassing the entire joint, burning down tents and property, and actually killing a guy. At the same time, there's a media blackout on the whole thing.

Well, word gets out on social media, and from the end of May to June, it jumps from about 50 environmentalists going camping to something like 2.5 million people getting out and telling the government to fark off. Unions organize labor strikes. A full page ad is run in the New York Times. Slogans are coined, the stock market tanks, and the EU basically told Turkey to forget about it until they get their house in order.

Throughout this whole thing, Erdogan has basically been oblivious, dismissive, unrepentant, and insulting. The rest of the government has made attempts at damage control here and there along the way, but he's called protesters "looters", dismissed the protest movement as an international conspiracy combined with internal traitors, and basically failed to recognize that this was actually a populist movement protesting against the very things that were happening.

It seems like bulldozing a park to put up a shopping mall was basically the spark that ignited the powder keg. The conflict had been a long time coming, is my understanding, but a completely toneless, authoritarian, brutal response to what is essentially a local zoning issue has thrown the whole country on its head.

So, what's the end game? Well, Erdogan, as PM, is appointed by the President, I believe. The current president is finishing up a seven-year term and there will be public elections for the first popularly-elected president of Turkey held in August this year. The Turkish Parliament is required to hold elections no later than every four years, but those can be called sooner by the PM. The last parliamentary elections were held in 2011, so that has to be done no later than June, 2015, I believe. Hopefully, that will clean up some of the mess that the government has become over there.
 
2014-02-06 09:59:05 AM

maxheck: Sad part being, Turkey used to be held up as a model progressive, secular Asian democracy.

Then the Teabaggers took over...


It's almost funny how our own Teabaggers completely miss the correlation, too.
 
2014-02-06 10:01:05 AM
Menace 2 Society meets Fear Of A Red Fez?
 
2014-02-06 10:12:30 AM
Can we all chip in and buy subby some punctuation?
 
2014-02-06 10:12:40 AM

phyrkrakr: So, what's the end game? Well, Erdogan, as PM, is appointed by the President, I believe. The current president is finishing up a seven-year term and there will be public elections for the first popularly-elected president of Turkey held in August this year. The Turkish Parliament is required to hold elections no later than every four years, but those can be called sooner by the PM. The last parliamentary elections were held in 2011, so that has to be done no later than June, 2015, I believe. Hopefully, that will clean up some of the mess that the government has become over there.



Doesn't Erdogan have issues with his right flank, namely Gulenists (sp?), who have a political and social model that is fairly conservative and driven by religion?  This would be related to the recent corruption allegations that nabbed powerful businessmen, police, and a few ministers if I recall right.
 
2014-02-06 10:20:38 AM
phyrkrakr

In other news, this guy Erdogan (the PM) wasn't such a shiathead when he first took power - he resolved issues with the Kurds, got the Turkish economy back on its feet, and improved education dramatically - there's a university in every province of Turkey now and textbooks are free. He also reformed the Turkish constitution in 2010, improving it to fall more in line with the EU standards.

The problem is that more recently, he's turned more towards being an authoritarian shiathead. He still hates Armenians, tearing down a sculpture that promoted peace between the countries. The government has exerted more and more control over the media, adding in restrictions to freedom of assembly, freedom of the press, censorship of television and internet content, and developing business/economic levers to use on the media companies.

Now, these initial protests all started over a redevelopment program in Istanbul. Basically, the government wanted to build a mosque, bulldoze a park, and I think put in a new bridge. The administrative board that's supposed to review these decisions told them no. The government put pressure on them to allow it, and got a higher tribunal to reverse the decision. This pissed people off, and an Occupy-style camp was put up in the park to stop the destruction.

At this point, it appears that the government loses its farking mind. There's like 50 people hanging in the park stopping bulldozers, and the government calls out the goon squad, tear gassing the entire joint, burning down tents and property, and actually killing a guy. At the same time, there's a media blackout on the whole thing.

Well, word gets out on social media, and from the end of May to June, it jumps from about 50 environmentalists going camping to something like 2.5 million people getting out and telling the government to fark off. Unions organize labor strikes. A full page ad is run in the New York Times. Slogans are coined, the stock market tanks, and the EU basically told Turkey to forget about it until they get their house in order.

Throughout this whole thing, Erdogan has basically been oblivious, dismissive, unrepentant, and insulting. The rest of the government has made attempts at damage control here and there along the way, but he's called protesters "looters", dismissed the protest movement as an international conspiracy combined with internal traitors, and basically failed to recognize that this was actually a populist movement protesting against the very things that were happening.

It seems like bulldozing a park to put up a shopping mall was basically the spark that ignited the powder keg. The conflict had been a long time coming, is my understanding, but a completely toneless, authoritarian, brutal response to what is essentially a local zoning issue has thrown the whole country on its head.

So, what's the end game? Well, Erdogan, as PM, is appointed by the President, I believe. The current president is finishing up a seven-year term and there will be public elections for the first popularly-elected president of Turkey held in August this year. The Turkish Parliament is required to hold elections no later than every four years, but those can be called sooner by the PM. The last parliamentary elections were held in 2011, so that has to be done no later than June, 2015, I believe. Hopefully, that will clean up some of the mess that the government has become over there.


I have an American understanding of this... Which basically means I know Jack shiat and hearsay. However, I am not sure Erdogan deserves any credit for doing what every country was already doing. For goodness sakes, the Maoists in Nepal got compulsory education and universal healthcare working.

Though to their credit, they stepped down when voted out.
 
2014-02-06 10:22:46 AM
Turkey ain't know to chicken out over these topics.
 
2014-02-06 10:31:06 AM
Jesus, subby, learn how to use commas.
 
2014-02-06 10:40:06 AM

elkev: The time for Turkey and the EU has long since passed.


Make Constantinoble an independent state, and the EU will be "happy" to let Turkey.

Else, no, even when Turkey was trying to suck up the EU, they were a farce.
 
2014-02-06 10:46:24 AM
Isn't being located in Europe a requirement of joining the European Union?  I'm no expert on such things, but one would assume...
 
2014-02-06 10:50:43 AM
Do not let this sh*tstain backwards hellhole into the EU.
 
2014-02-06 11:10:01 AM
What's an appositive?
 
2014-02-06 11:19:13 AM

JK47: Doesn't Erdogan have issues with his right flank, namely Gulenists (sp?), who have a political and social model that is fairly conservative and driven by religion? This would be related to the recent corruption allegations that nabbed powerful businessmen, police, and a few ministers if I recall right.


He very well could, for all I know. This is just from a quick gloss of Wikipedia, followed up by some archived news articles, and what I remember. There's actually a Turkish farker running around who has popped up in these threads now and again. She was actually at some of the Gezi protests, if I recall correctly. I do know that there have been corruption crackdowns related to Erdogan's government, but I couldn't get a good read on whether it was guys from the Islamist faction getting kicked out, or if they were the ones doing the kicking. Erdogan had to reorganize his cabinet not too long ago.

maxheck: I have an American understanding of this... Which basically means I know Jack shiat and hearsay. However, I am not sure Erdogan deserves any credit for doing what every country was already doing. For goodness sakes, the Maoists in Nepal got compulsory education and universal healthcare working.

Though to their credit, they stepped down when voted out.


I'm not by any means an authority, but it's worth pointing out that the guy's been in power for more than 10 years and been reelected twice since taking office. He had to have done something to keep that level of popular support, so I was curious what it was. Turns out, it was improving education, reforming the constitution (before ignoring it) and getting the economy sorted out (until recently).

That's the way it goes, though. Bashir Assad in Syria wired his country into the internet for the first time and was significantly more secular than the other guys, while still being an authoritarian shiathead. Viktor Yuschenko co-led the Orange Revolution in the Ukraine with Yulia Tymoshenko and was almost assassinated with dioxin before stabbing Tymoshenko and the other revolutionaries in the back, cutting a deal with the bad guys, and being ousted from power. Musharraf in Pakistan expanded women's rights, fought the Taliban and al Qaeda, and liberalized the media while also taking power in a coup, selling nuclear secrets, and probably assassinating Benazir Bhutto. And Hugo Chavez's entire political career is a mixed-up mash of contrasting legacies. Having a little bit of gray mixed in makes it easier to understand the issues.
 
2014-02-06 11:19:42 AM
I came here for The Penguin

/Leaving disappointed
//Lazy and disappointed
///Mostly lazy
 
2014-02-06 11:26:55 AM

rjakobi: Molavian: F*ck you, Turkey.

Don't you mean "Get stuffed, Turkey?"


Donk approves

I
Don't
Twit
 
2014-02-06 11:42:35 AM
If Turkey wants to get into the EU, they're certainly doing it badly.

rjakobi: Molavian: F*ck you, Turkey.

Don't you mean "Get stuffed, Turkey?"


*golf clap*
 
2014-02-06 11:52:27 AM
There's actually a majority of sane, rational people in Turkey.  I have several Turkish friends and they're perfectly normal people, who make fun of and are embarrassed by the same idiots we're complaining about.  There's some idiots everywhere, so give them a chance.
 
2014-02-06 12:08:25 PM
Erdogan took a lot of credit for doing what the world bank ordered "don't change this policy we have instated."  He didn't.  In terms of economic congratulations, that's all he and his party deserves.

He was thrown in jail for two years for trying to over-Islamicise the government.  When he took power in 2003, he was sneakier about it, but his goal has been the same the whole time.  The Gulenists are not really his problem, any more than the hidden americans pulling puppet strings in brussels.

Next elections are in March.
 
2014-02-06 12:19:01 PM

d-notice: How do you badly pass a law?


When you pass it based on the fact that there is not enough time to read it and there for you have to pass it to find out whats in it.  That is definitely badly passed.
 
2014-02-06 12:25:19 PM
fark those shiat eating biatches.

Uh oh...
 
2014-02-06 12:34:21 PM

jshine: Isn't being located in Europe a requirement of joining the European Union?  I'm no expert on such things, but one would assume...


Western Turkey is in Europe.
 
2014-02-06 12:46:02 PM

August11: Adverbs and other modifiers, Subby. How do they work?


Help! I may need a comma!
 
2014-02-06 01:08:25 PM

This text is now purple: jshine: Isn't being located in Europe a requirement of joining the European Union?  I'm no expert on such things, but one would assume...

Western Turkey is in Europe.


And half of Istanbul.
 
kgf
2014-02-06 01:13:26 PM
Hey Subby:

Let's eat Grandma.

Let's eat, Grandma.

See how important commas are?  Use them.
 
2014-02-06 01:19:13 PM
bad grammer head asplosion
 
2014-02-06 01:36:51 PM
Whet do you expect Turkeys are angry vicious birds who's only redeeming quality is they are tasty.
 
2014-02-06 04:01:46 PM
If you ever want to keep your people from acquiring or sharing information then you are the bad in the story.
 
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