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2014-02-06 06:05:28 AM  
6 votes:
You disfigure yourself, then complain about people taking offense at you disfiguring yourself? fark you.
2014-02-06 05:57:12 AM  
6 votes:
I think the problem is that common wisdom is so against facial tattoos, that it is assumed you must have been an idiot to not have thought of that when you got the thing.
2014-02-06 01:39:54 AM  
6 votes:
I tried to read the article, but I found out that I just don't care about people who make very poor decisions in life and whether they get access to upscale hotels or not..
2014-02-06 06:12:56 AM  
5 votes:
Non-verbal expressions are still a form of communication and as an employer, I have a stake in the message you're broadcasting.

"Hi, I have poor impulse control!" Or "I have poor planning of outcomes tendencies." Or "HEY LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION!" are messages I don't want you to tell my customers. It's no different from you showing up in PJs instead of reasonable business attire says "I'm an overgrown child."

Congrats on your individualism. Good luck on your self-employment career.

Might I miss a really quirky, talented person? Maybe. But my guess is that's the exception, not the rule, and you'll be panhandling before long. I see more of you on the streets begging for you next bong hit instead of being a functioning member of society.

Good luck.
2014-02-06 05:57:18 AM  
5 votes:
"Hey everyone look at me, I an an attention whore!"

*first inconvenience*

"I demand to be treated just like everyone else!"
2014-02-06 12:40:02 AM  
5 votes:
No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.
2014-02-06 06:32:47 AM  
4 votes:
www.vaporsnyc.com
2014-02-06 08:40:10 AM  
3 votes:
All I know is I wouldn't want a permanent reminder of what my 18 year old self thought was edgy/profound/cool/intelligent/meaningful
2014-02-06 06:03:08 AM  
3 votes:
...who has changed his name by deed poll to King of Ink Land King Body Art The Extreme Ink-Ite...

Yep, sounds exactly like the sort of person I'd want to hire.  I'm sure that he would be an asset to my business...if I was running an attention whoring freak or reality show.
2014-02-06 01:14:36 PM  
2 votes:
I view tattoos the same way I view smoking, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, having unprotected sex with strangers, and cashing out your 401k and placing it all on black in Las Vegas: you're utterly and completely within your rights to live your life in these ways, but they're all decisions that are dumb as hell and show poor judgement or inability to think critically about risk and the potential impacts for the rest of your life.

Also, when it comes to women and tattoos, I've never looked at a beautiful woman and thought to myself, "Wow...she'd look a LOT better with a bunch of shiatty blue and green ink all over her!"
2014-02-06 07:32:01 AM  
2 votes:

OhioUGrad: People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

[i265.photobucket.com image 500x356]


Notice how that guy's tattoos are all covered up by workplace-compatible clothes?  He must be part of the problem...
2014-02-06 07:20:56 AM  
2 votes:

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


Agreed. I can see maybe one that is easily covered by a shirt though. But lots of them or the sleeve look says "i make poor decisions".

A military tattoo i can see. It is a symbol of brotherhood. The rest i can't see.
2014-02-06 06:20:41 AM  
2 votes:
Oh look, it's that tattoo thread again.
2014-02-06 06:10:56 AM  
2 votes:
i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.
2014-02-06 12:41:55 AM  
2 votes:

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Well, maybe if 'there' was a carnival ticket booth...
2014-02-06 06:55:31 PM  
1 vote:

tripleseven: I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.


Whichever department of the intarwebs is responsible for starting memes better be all over that.
2014-02-06 01:47:05 PM  
1 vote:

gretzkyscores: I view tattoos the same way I view smoking, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, having unprotected sex with strangers, and cashing out your 401k and placing it all on black in Las Vegas: you're utterly and completely within your rights to live your life in these ways, but they're all decisions that are dumb as hell and show poor judgement or inability to think critically about risk and the potential impacts for the rest of your life.


While many people do any or all of the above and more well aware of possible impacts....and find that they simply don't care.

You view other people's choices as "poor".  That is your base argument.

It is very much the same unintelligent blather people go on about when discussing homosexuals.  What they do is obviously not your cup of tea, but as long as they're not doing it to you, why do you seem to care so much?

Mostly, it's "stop liking what I don't like".  I don't like asparagus, but I don't go out of my way to badmouth people who like to eat it, especially not as if it's the most offensive thing in the world, making them into lesser people, barely human at all.

I think it is a manifestation of self loathing.  You're pissed that so much of the world is not similar to you, not because you're self centered.  Well, you are in a way, but it is a self defense rationalization for knowing that you're the judgemental freak with some serious flaws and social issues.  You have a hard time admitting the truth, so you deflect.

Very common with "stop liking...." people in general.  Why don't those people suffer like I do?  They should, damnit!11!!! This is a horrible life and people should not be enjoying themselves or practicing their rights!!11!

A very close cousin to the religious puritan.  All these things they believe are "bad" are tools of the devil, so one must live a dreary life of sacrifice to stay away from "evil", because GOD!

Sure, if they want the benefit of their 401k  investments in the future, it's a bad idea to gamble it away.  IF   IF

See, the folly of projecting your status on other individuals?  Do you even know the meaning of what it is to be an individual?  Not unique, mind you, that's not possible with a population the size of humanity's.  But there is a very high amount of variance.

Within that variation, there are a LOT of people that are not like you, with different goals, aspirations, different tastes, different cares, etc.

It is a shame that so many people never attain self awareness and harbor such vast amounts of cognitive dissonance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness
2014-02-06 01:23:44 PM  
1 vote:
tattoospedia.com

LOL.

WUT?
2014-02-06 01:15:53 PM  
1 vote:

Valiente: GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.

May I interest you in a slightly used penis gourd? I'd post a picture, but based on the post deletion I scored yesterday for a profile shot of Liz Hurley's backside, I would ask you to just GIS it.

/penis gourd.


Screw that! I am going to GIS Liz Hurley's backside!
2014-02-06 12:58:44 PM  
1 vote:

Pangea: 99sportster: Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]

Strange.  Both my forearms are tattooed, and my W-2 says I paid about $18,200 in taxes last year.

Perhaps I should let the IRS know about this picture, and they'll give it all back.

Perhaps a person with fewer tattoos could have sheltered their money a little better.


Doubtful.  My IRA/401k contributions are maxed, and my accountant does a pretty good job juggling what's left.  I'm pretty sure I'm just paying "my fair share".   The accountant got it close enough this year that I'm only writing a check for an additional $455.  That was probably caused by my end-of-year bonus being higher than expected.  I'll take that.
2014-02-06 12:32:34 PM  
1 vote:

Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]


Strange.  Both my forearms are tattooed, and my W-2 says I paid about $18,200 in taxes last year.

Perhaps I should let the IRS know about this picture, and they'll give it all back.
2014-02-06 11:59:23 AM  
1 vote:

MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?


then you would be part of that tribe, wouldnt you?
2014-02-06 11:22:03 AM  
1 vote:

skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?


I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.
2014-02-06 11:18:41 AM  
1 vote:
I gotta have a good lol and guys getting face tatoos so they can look gangsta. Any real gangster would not want to have any identifying marks on their bodys.


Oh look at me I got some tatoos I must be hardcore! Ya bud you and every other shiat for brains retard out there.
2014-02-06 11:14:44 AM  
1 vote:

bakarocket: Maybe next time, instead of simply seeing a tattoo and thinking, "Wow, what an idiot," you could consider what made the person get it.


I do consider all of the possible factors:
- poor impulse control
- unable to resist peer pressure
- temporary insanity
- substance abuse problems
- undiagnosed mental disorder
- off their meds
- daddy issues
- multiple felony convictions
2014-02-06 11:10:06 AM  
1 vote:

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


With a name like SkinInk, I can't really tell if you're serious.

Assuming you are...  You make some good points about tattoos.  But your views are a little too black and white (no pun intended).  You can't just lump everyone together into one pile like that.  By your own admission, "EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them ".  So, EVERYONE but you is a screwed up degenerate?

Sheesh...  Get over yourself.  If you don't want tattoos, don't get them.  End of story.
2014-02-06 09:12:07 AM  
1 vote:

GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.


Yeah WTF...

A face tattoo violates a dress code? Why? He is wearing the proper attire.

I know this is the UK and all but I'm thinking in the us, being denied access for a tattoo is grounds for a 'suin...
2014-02-06 09:11:20 AM  
1 vote:

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Feel free to start a business and hire circus freaks to do jobs where they interact with your customers. I'll be waiting to buy all your equipment in the eventual bankruptcy sale.
2014-02-06 08:32:40 AM  
1 vote:
What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.
2014-02-06 07:46:54 AM  
1 vote:

GoldSpider: OhioUGrad: People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

[i265.photobucket.com image 500x356]

Notice how that guy's tattoos are all covered up by workplace-compatible clothes?  He must be part of the problem...


Not according to Hawnkee's posting. Although I don't care if anyone has tattoos one way or another, I've seen some Farkers severely dislike them which usually makes posting and reading posts all the more enjoyable.
2014-02-06 07:41:04 AM  
1 vote:
I have a tattoo. I got it not to define who I am, but so I would never forget who I am. For some of you, that's easy. For me, it ain't so easy. I needed a constant reminder of what I wanted to be. I no longer need that reminder, but the fact that I used to need it has become a part of the person I am now. No one else in the world has the same tattoo I have (I think). I designed it, though of course the inker could have given it to someone else afterwards without my knowledge.

Tattoos are not always simply attempts to be noticed. They are not always just a way to feel cooler. Just like clothing, hairstyles, makeup, a favourite band, or a beloved car, they really can reflect who a person is.

Maybe next time, instead of simply seeing a tattoo and thinking, "Wow, what an idiot," you could consider what made the person get it.

Some people are TOTALLY idiots. But not all.
2014-02-06 07:33:16 AM  
1 vote:
Rattrap007:  A military tattoo i can see. It is a symbol of brotherhood. The rest i can't see.

I got all my tattoos while I was in the Army and I work in a very conservative place. Luckily is suit and tie every day so they never show, but if someone did happen to see it, the fact that I was in the military will get me a pass because one of the good things about working in a very conservative place is that they usually give veterans a pass on stuff like that.
2014-02-06 07:33:05 AM  
1 vote:

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


Oh thank god, I thought I was the only one. The one that irrationally makes my blood boil is when they get the standard "Live, Laugh, Love" which is the same slogan found on every dollar store wall placard. What the fark does this mean??? Are you reminding people to experience the gamut of human emotions like they would somehow forget?
2014-02-06 07:25:27 AM  
1 vote:
I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.
2014-02-06 07:13:45 AM  
1 vote:
People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

i265.photobucket.com
2014-02-06 07:01:24 AM  
1 vote:

Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]


I've got a tattoo in the red zone (back of my head), and aside from a few months after being downsized, I've been gainfully employed the 7 or so years it's been there. Currently in a job that doesn't care, and there's make up for interviews or future ones that do. Takes about 15 minutes for me to cover it to the point where no one can tell.

/CSB
2014-02-06 06:47:43 AM  
1 vote:

skinink: rant


Given that user name, not sure if troll.

If troll, good job on getting Ogre to bite.

Meh.  I don't mind tatoos, as long as the work itself is not ugly or offensive in nature.  For most, it's a shock thing that they get over in time, just like people of naturally varying colors.

AS forlohphat: Non-verbal expressions are still a form of communication and as an employer, I have a stake in the message you're broadcasting.

"Hi, I have poor impulse control!" Or "I have poor planning of outcomes tendencies." Or "HEY LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION!" are messages I don't want you to tell my customers. It's no different from you showing up in PJs instead of reasonable business attire says "I'm an overgrown child."

Congrats on your individualism. Good luck on your self-employment career.

Might I miss a really quirky, talented person? Maybe. But my guess is that's the exception, not the rule, and you'll be panhandling before long. I see more of you on the streets begging for you next bong hit instead of being a functioning member of society.

Good luck.


Coorelation vs Causation
(or maybe fallacy of association.)
A lot of poor people(Ie your bums/beggars) have tattoos because they are stupid.  Not all stupid people have tattoos. Not all people with public tattoos are stupid.

I tend to judge people on their behavior, and attempt to not be prejudice. Sure, some people are ugly or otherwise hit that area of my mind that forces me to find them distasteful(that is instinct and cannot be stopped), but I don't base predictions of their character on that.

That's called rationalization.  You are trying to convince yourself and legitimize your prejudice.  Similar to how people are racist against blacks, verbally associating them with crime and violence to justify their natural distaste for their appearance.

*shrugs*

Pribar: There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category


This.  It's natural to find distaste in anything from race to dialect/accent to retardation.  To take action on it, or make hate speech against it, is it's own little sub-group, hate mongering from people who are lacking in the self awareness category(which is a sadly large ratio in the human populace).

On a side note:
I would think that the make-up, considering there's facial hair, likely with paint on it, would be a dead giveaway as to it not being a tattoo, if one were close enough to observe that.
2014-02-06 06:30:33 AM  
1 vote:
Tattoos are the equivalent of having bell-bottom jeans permanently grafted onto your legs in 1973.
2014-02-06 06:26:03 AM  
1 vote:

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


taking a piss on an internet forum is way easier to hide
2014-02-06 06:16:47 AM  
1 vote:
There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category
2014-02-06 06:11:51 AM  
1 vote:
Also depends on the quality and nature of the tattoos. Anything that looks amateur shouts "ex con".
2014-02-06 06:00:16 AM  
1 vote:
upload.wikimedia.orgi4.mirror.co.uk

You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don't care if they're black, white, purple or green"... Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they're suffocating - then help'em.
 
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