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2014-02-05 11:56:27 PM
See, but under all that ink he's still a white guy.
 
2014-02-06 12:00:09 AM
The Mirror is there?
 
2014-02-06 12:40:02 AM
No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.
 
2014-02-06 12:41:55 AM

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Well, maybe if 'there' was a carnival ticket booth...
 
2014-02-06 01:39:54 AM
I tried to read the article, but I found out that I just don't care about people who make very poor decisions in life and whether they get access to upscale hotels or not..
 
2014-02-06 05:57:12 AM
I think the problem is that common wisdom is so against facial tattoos, that it is assumed you must have been an idiot to not have thought of that when you got the thing.
 
2014-02-06 05:57:18 AM
"Hey everyone look at me, I an an attention whore!"

*first inconvenience*

"I demand to be treated just like everyone else!"
 
2014-02-06 05:58:34 AM

zzrhardy: "Hey everyone look at me, I an an attention whore!"

*first inconvenience*

"I demand to be treated just like everyone else!"


"I demand that you fall all over yourselves in admiration of my individuality."
 
2014-02-06 06:00:16 AM
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You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don't care if they're black, white, purple or green"... Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they're suffocating - then help'em.
 
2014-02-06 06:03:08 AM
...who has changed his name by deed poll to King of Ink Land King Body Art The Extreme Ink-Ite...

Yep, sounds exactly like the sort of person I'd want to hire.  I'm sure that he would be an asset to my business...if I was running an attention whoring freak or reality show.
 
2014-02-06 06:05:28 AM
You disfigure yourself, then complain about people taking offense at you disfiguring yourself? fark you.
 
2014-02-06 06:10:56 AM
i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.
 
2014-02-06 06:11:51 AM
Also depends on the quality and nature of the tattoos. Anything that looks amateur shouts "ex con".
 
2014-02-06 06:12:56 AM
Non-verbal expressions are still a form of communication and as an employer, I have a stake in the message you're broadcasting.

"Hi, I have poor impulse control!" Or "I have poor planning of outcomes tendencies." Or "HEY LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION!" are messages I don't want you to tell my customers. It's no different from you showing up in PJs instead of reasonable business attire says "I'm an overgrown child."

Congrats on your individualism. Good luck on your self-employment career.

Might I miss a really quirky, talented person? Maybe. But my guess is that's the exception, not the rule, and you'll be panhandling before long. I see more of you on the streets begging for you next bong hit instead of being a functioning member of society.

Good luck.
 
2014-02-06 06:16:47 AM
There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category
 
2014-02-06 06:17:43 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


farking A this.
 
2014-02-06 06:19:54 AM

Baron Harkonnen: [upload.wikimedia.org image 475x359][i4.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]

You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don't care if they're black, white, purple or green"... Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they're suffocating - then help'em.


the irony is that most employers wouldn't hire either of them.

indeed, mitch's long hair and indoor sunglasses are essentially his own tattoos and/or taboos.

if tattoo-face guy had decent jokes he may as well be the next mitch hedberg.

the world may never know
 
2014-02-06 06:20:25 AM

log_jammin: I tried to read the article, but I found out that I just don't care about people who make very poor decisions in life and whether they get access to upscale hotels or not..


II do - I care about everybody - but I just don't know what to do for somebody who has set themselves an artificial hurdle like this - it doesn't seem like my caring or not caring is going to make much difference.
 
2014-02-06 06:20:41 AM
Oh look, it's that tattoo thread again.
 
2014-02-06 06:22:28 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.

farking A this.


i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-06 06:24:16 AM

BumpInTheNight: ...who has changed his name by deed poll to King of Ink Land King Body Art The Extreme Ink-Ite...

Yep, sounds exactly like the sort of person I'd want to hire.  I'm sure that he would be an asset to my business...if I was running an attention whoring freak or reality show.


That would look pretty sweet on a business card though
 
2014-02-06 06:25:08 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


And here I've been picturing you covered in tattoos all this time, based only on your Fark handle!
 
2014-02-06 06:26:03 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


taking a piss on an internet forum is way easier to hide
 
2014-02-06 06:30:05 AM

Witness99: skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.

And here I've been picturing you covered in tattoos all this time, based only on your Fark handle!


I just assumed s/he liked the Elaphant Show.
Skinamarink a dink a dink.
Skinamarink a doo.
 
2014-02-06 06:30:20 AM
I thought we had all agreed already that too many tattoos are ugly and stupid.
Now if we can only agree on how to solve the budget deficit.
 
2014-02-06 06:30:33 AM
Tattoos are the equivalent of having bell-bottom jeans permanently grafted onto your legs in 1973.
 
2014-02-06 06:32:47 AM
www.vaporsnyc.com
 
2014-02-06 06:34:21 AM

Descartes: I thought we had all agreed already that too many tattoos are ugly and stupid.
Now if we can only agree on how to solve the budget deficit.


all of our reps should have barcode tattoos that let us know which idiotic policy they voted for.
 
2014-02-06 06:38:42 AM
the tat would be on their forehead. bad policy means they get fired and have to look for a new job with that tat on their face
 
2014-02-06 06:47:43 AM

skinink: rant


Given that user name, not sure if troll.

If troll, good job on getting Ogre to bite.

Meh.  I don't mind tatoos, as long as the work itself is not ugly or offensive in nature.  For most, it's a shock thing that they get over in time, just like people of naturally varying colors.

AS forlohphat: Non-verbal expressions are still a form of communication and as an employer, I have a stake in the message you're broadcasting.

"Hi, I have poor impulse control!" Or "I have poor planning of outcomes tendencies." Or "HEY LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION!" are messages I don't want you to tell my customers. It's no different from you showing up in PJs instead of reasonable business attire says "I'm an overgrown child."

Congrats on your individualism. Good luck on your self-employment career.

Might I miss a really quirky, talented person? Maybe. But my guess is that's the exception, not the rule, and you'll be panhandling before long. I see more of you on the streets begging for you next bong hit instead of being a functioning member of society.

Good luck.


Coorelation vs Causation
(or maybe fallacy of association.)
A lot of poor people(Ie your bums/beggars) have tattoos because they are stupid.  Not all stupid people have tattoos. Not all people with public tattoos are stupid.

I tend to judge people on their behavior, and attempt to not be prejudice. Sure, some people are ugly or otherwise hit that area of my mind that forces me to find them distasteful(that is instinct and cannot be stopped), but I don't base predictions of their character on that.

That's called rationalization.  You are trying to convince yourself and legitimize your prejudice.  Similar to how people are racist against blacks, verbally associating them with crime and violence to justify their natural distaste for their appearance.

*shrugs*

Pribar: There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category


This.  It's natural to find distaste in anything from race to dialect/accent to retardation.  To take action on it, or make hate speech against it, is it's own little sub-group, hate mongering from people who are lacking in the self awareness category(which is a sadly large ratio in the human populace).

On a side note:
I would think that the make-up, considering there's facial hair, likely with paint on it, would be a dead giveaway as to it not being a tattoo, if one were close enough to observe that.
 
2014-02-06 06:49:40 AM
I have a foot long beard and get a similar amount of attention in public. It's strange going through life with three distinguishing charachteristics, when I used to get by with tall and bald.

/I need to start hitting on the staring chicks.
 
2014-02-06 07:01:00 AM

wildcardjack: I have a foot long beard and get a similar amount of attention in public. It's strange going through life with three distinguishing charachteristics, when I used to get by with tall and bald.

/I need to start hitting on the staring chicks.


Same thing with my foot long Johnson, bro.
 
2014-02-06 07:01:24 AM

Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]


I've got a tattoo in the red zone (back of my head), and aside from a few months after being downsized, I've been gainfully employed the 7 or so years it's been there. Currently in a job that doesn't care, and there's make up for interviews or future ones that do. Takes about 15 minutes for me to cover it to the point where no one can tell.

/CSB
 
2014-02-06 07:02:46 AM
The bigger the gauge, the lower the wage.....
 
2014-02-06 07:02:58 AM

wildcardjack: I have a foot long beard and get a similar amount of attention in public. It's strange going through life with three distinguishing charachteristics, when I used to get by with tall and bald.

/I need to start hitting on the staring chicks.


I would have thought the popularity of duck dynasty would have knocked "long beard" off the weird list.
 
2014-02-06 07:13:45 AM
People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

i265.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-06 07:20:56 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


Agreed. I can see maybe one that is easily covered by a shirt though. But lots of them or the sleeve look says "i make poor decisions".

A military tattoo i can see. It is a symbol of brotherhood. The rest i can't see.
 
2014-02-06 07:25:27 AM
I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.
 
2014-02-06 07:30:51 AM

Error 482: Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]

I've got a tattoo in the red zone (back of my head), and aside from a few months after being downsized, I've been gainfully employed the 7 or so years it's been there. Currently in a job that doesn't care, and there's make up for interviews or future ones that do. Takes about 15 minutes for me to cover it to the point where no one can tell.

/CSB


I have forearm tattoos in the 'I don't pay taxes' zone, but I work as a GS-9 as a sys admin for the government. So, I guess, techincally, I also cost taxes.
 
2014-02-06 07:32:01 AM

OhioUGrad: People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

[i265.photobucket.com image 500x356]


Notice how that guy's tattoos are all covered up by workplace-compatible clothes?  He must be part of the problem...
 
2014-02-06 07:32:33 AM

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Given some of the clientèle the Ritz has handled in the last century, having facial tattoos isn't going to phase them in the least.

I think this guy did the facial tattoo thing about as well as anyone:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-06 07:33:05 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


Oh thank god, I thought I was the only one. The one that irrationally makes my blood boil is when they get the standard "Live, Laugh, Love" which is the same slogan found on every dollar store wall placard. What the fark does this mean??? Are you reminding people to experience the gamut of human emotions like they would somehow forget?
 
2014-02-06 07:33:16 AM
Rattrap007:  A military tattoo i can see. It is a symbol of brotherhood. The rest i can't see.

I got all my tattoos while I was in the Army and I work in a very conservative place. Luckily is suit and tie every day so they never show, but if someone did happen to see it, the fact that I was in the military will get me a pass because one of the good things about working in a very conservative place is that they usually give veterans a pass on stuff like that.
 
2014-02-06 07:35:04 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?
 
2014-02-06 07:40:12 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


I've seen some which were good.  Usually short, and usually interesting if I had to stop and translate them out of another language.  Preferably Latin.

/one of the first people I met who was heavily tattooed, 20 years ago, had the the first stanza of the Iliad in Greek on his arm. "Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilleus..."
//What impresses classics majors...
 
2014-02-06 07:41:04 AM
I have a tattoo. I got it not to define who I am, but so I would never forget who I am. For some of you, that's easy. For me, it ain't so easy. I needed a constant reminder of what I wanted to be. I no longer need that reminder, but the fact that I used to need it has become a part of the person I am now. No one else in the world has the same tattoo I have (I think). I designed it, though of course the inker could have given it to someone else afterwards without my knowledge.

Tattoos are not always simply attempts to be noticed. They are not always just a way to feel cooler. Just like clothing, hairstyles, makeup, a favourite band, or a beloved car, they really can reflect who a person is.

Maybe next time, instead of simply seeing a tattoo and thinking, "Wow, what an idiot," you could consider what made the person get it.

Some people are TOTALLY idiots. But not all.
 
2014-02-06 07:42:10 AM
What? No social ostracism and general societal contribution to your self-fulfilling victim complex?

Kinda defeats the purpose of getting a face tattoo...
 
2014-02-06 07:43:49 AM

Ivandrago: Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.

I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


Depends on the font. Old English? Awesome. Comic Sans, Papyrus, or any version of Arial? DIAF.

/honestly thought it was *into* the breach, too
 
2014-02-06 07:43:53 AM

Ivandrago: I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


It's a little cliched, but it's hard to find any good line from Shakespeare that isn't.

Frankly, the thing is that it's important to you.

/I've thought about getting a tattoo for 20-odd years, and I've yet to come up with anything I want to look at every day.
//My memory carries all the scars I need reminding of.
 
2014-02-06 07:46:54 AM

GoldSpider: OhioUGrad: People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

[i265.photobucket.com image 500x356]

Notice how that guy's tattoos are all covered up by workplace-compatible clothes?  He must be part of the problem...


Not according to Hawnkee's posting. Although I don't care if anyone has tattoos one way or another, I've seen some Farkers severely dislike them which usually makes posting and reading posts all the more enjoyable.
 
2014-02-06 07:50:01 AM
I'm so edgy, I have no ink.
 
2014-02-06 07:50:37 AM

jdjoker: Depends on the font. Old English? Awesome. Comic Sans, Papyrus, or any version of Arial? DIAF.

/honestly thought it was *into* the breach, too


Depends on which version you go with.
Can't stand old English, despite that it probably would have been appropriate. It's too hard to read most of the time and the font size I ended up with is relatively small.
 
2014-02-06 07:54:39 AM

Ivandrago: jdjoker: Depends on the font. Old English? Awesome. Comic Sans, Papyrus, or any version of Arial? DIAF.

/honestly thought it was *into* the breach, too

Depends on which version you go with.
Can't stand old English, despite that it probably would have been appropriate. It's too hard to read most of the time and the font size I ended up with is relatively small.


Actually the "right" thing to use would be Secretary Hand, but it looks a lot like Elvish (you can guess why).  Here's Shakespeare's will:

 upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-06 07:58:42 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


This is the kind of tattoo hate I can get behind.  Not a blanket hatred of them all, but a judge of character based on content.

Although, I say, don't stop it.  It's good for the vapid to out themselves.

MightyPez: Oh thank god, I thought I was the only one. The one that irrationally makes my blood boil is when they get the standard "Live, Laugh, Love" which is the same slogan found on every dollar store wall placard. What the fark does this mean??? Are you reminding people to experience the gamut of human emotions like they would somehow forget?


Something that simple is not necessarily indicative of vapidness(or whatever trait).  Coupled with other behavior, then yeah.

Some cliche's are just as they appear, the correlation of them on vapid people can be very high.  However, with some people, there is a personal meaning that goes beyond empty sentiments.

Much like a military tattoo it can be a symbol for life changing or otherwise meaningful experience.  Not all people get a tattoo just to have a tattoo, many get one to commemorate something important to them.  Many simple tattoos, in their working or their content, have fantastic stories and meanings behind them.  That is, if you care for other people or find other people's live's interesting.  Many don't decorate themselves for you(collective), or even for attention at all.

That's the thing that bugs me, and you(personal) may not be one of them, but a lot of people on fark are so eager to stereotype and lump all peopel with tattoos into a single category, really it boggles the mind.

At least you note the "irrational" thing, you recognize it, so props there.

/eh enough rambling
//sick-day from work - migrane - so pardon me for possibly not making sense
 
2014-02-06 08:03:43 AM
"Back outside, a charity collector asks if I'm going to a fancy dress party as character from the movie Avatar."

Now that that's covered...
 
2014-02-06 08:09:26 AM
You know who else liked arm tattoos?
 
2014-02-06 08:16:06 AM
Dwight_Yeast:Actually the "right" thing to use would be Secretary Hand, but it looks a lot like Elvish (you can guess why).  Here's Shakespeare's will:

 [upload.wikimedia.org image 538x521]


That's an awesome style and I wish I had known about it at the time. Now I need another Shakespeare quote so I can get it done with that font. Did Shakespeare say anything interesting about lawyers?
All kidding aside, that would have been a great look, but still hard to read.
 
2014-02-06 08:20:37 AM

TenJed_77: Oh look, it's that tattoo thread again


Oh look its that moran with nothing to say again
 
2014-02-06 08:28:24 AM
The doorman just smiles and hold the door open but a security guard stops me in the lobby. "That's a face tattoo, yes?" he says. "Hang on a minute, let me just ring the security and make sure that fits with our dress code."

"Sir, a chap just came in who appears to have drawn a tattoo on his face."  "Yes, it looks like he used a set of multi-color marking pens."  "Yes, I'd guess that it is for a Mirror feature piece."  "Okay, I'll let him in."
 

But after a very brief call to his boss, he puts down the phone and beckons me into the fragrance department where, far from sending staff screaming, I'm offered a spray of Gucci aftershave.
 
2014-02-06 08:31:59 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.


 
2014-02-06 08:32:40 AM
What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.
 
2014-02-06 08:40:10 AM
All I know is I wouldn't want a permanent reminder of what my 18 year old self thought was edgy/profound/cool/intelligent/meaningful
 
2014-02-06 08:40:34 AM

vudukungfu: I'm so edgy, I have no ink.


Oh yeah?  Well, I'm so inky, I have no edge!

/that didn't make much sense, did it?
//Squidward
 
2014-02-06 08:52:50 AM

Baryogenesis: All I know is I wouldn't want a permanent reminder of what my 18 year old self thought was edgy/profound/cool/intelligent/meaningful


In high school I honed a personal style that was a mix of granola crunchy (think those skirts and dresses they sell in stores that reek of patchouli) and Ally Sheedy's character in The Breakfast Club.

I can't imagine what I would do if I had to dress that way 24/7.
 
2014-02-06 09:07:23 AM
If I ever got some sort of quotation or motto tattooed on me, it would be "Dum vivamus vivamus."
 
2014-02-06 09:11:20 AM

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Feel free to start a business and hire circus freaks to do jobs where they interact with your customers. I'll be waiting to buy all your equipment in the eventual bankruptcy sale.
 
2014-02-06 09:12:07 AM

GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.


Yeah WTF...

A face tattoo violates a dress code? Why? He is wearing the proper attire.

I know this is the UK and all but I'm thinking in the us, being denied access for a tattoo is grounds for a 'suin...
 
2014-02-06 09:14:03 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


I... -_-.

lygsbtd.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-06 09:26:54 AM

GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.


Yeah, don't the salespeople just ignore you if you don't meet whatever look they're going for?
 
2014-02-06 10:01:48 AM

stewbert: GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.

Yeah, don't the salespeople just ignore you if you don't meet whatever look they're going for?


Yes, I've been ignored every time I have stepped into Artvan.  Once, I did get some attention, well more precisely my wife got the attention and they at that point had to acknowledge me.  And I've never gone in there in my shabby dress down chore clothes, casual, but not junk clothes.  Weird to get treated that way by a furniture store.
 
2014-02-06 10:09:02 AM

Ivandrago: Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.

I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


That's terrible - no capitalization?? No punctuation? UGH!
 
2014-02-06 10:52:15 AM
Those anatomy textbook tattoos freak me out.
 
2014-02-06 10:55:52 AM
Whaaaaaaaaaah. I went way out of my way to project the fact that I am different and now everyone treats me differently!!!!! Whaaaaaaaaahhhhhh
 
2014-02-06 10:59:51 AM

CMYK and PMS: TenJed_77: Oh look, it's that tattoo thread again

Oh look its that moran with nothing to say again


t2.gstatic.com
 
2014-02-06 11:10:06 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


With a name like SkinInk, I can't really tell if you're serious.

Assuming you are...  You make some good points about tattoos.  But your views are a little too black and white (no pun intended).  You can't just lump everyone together into one pile like that.  By your own admission, "EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them ".  So, EVERYONE but you is a screwed up degenerate?

Sheesh...  Get over yourself.  If you don't want tattoos, don't get them.  End of story.
 
2014-02-06 11:14:44 AM

bakarocket: Maybe next time, instead of simply seeing a tattoo and thinking, "Wow, what an idiot," you could consider what made the person get it.


I do consider all of the possible factors:
- poor impulse control
- unable to resist peer pressure
- temporary insanity
- substance abuse problems
- undiagnosed mental disorder
- off their meds
- daddy issues
- multiple felony convictions
 
2014-02-06 11:18:41 AM
I gotta have a good lol and guys getting face tatoos so they can look gangsta. Any real gangster would not want to have any identifying marks on their bodys.


Oh look at me I got some tatoos I must be hardcore! Ya bud you and every other shiat for brains retard out there.
 
2014-02-06 11:21:24 AM
People oppressed because of the choices they made. How awful.
 
2014-02-06 11:22:03 AM

skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?


I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.
 
2014-02-06 11:34:47 AM

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


This, although I have to say it's not unusual in downtown Toronto to see any amount of facial tattoos ranging from "prison" to "I was in that issue of Re/Search in the '80s".

You know you live fairly far downtown when you can hear people's genital piercings clinking on panties-optional hot summer days.
 
2014-02-06 11:35:13 AM
He din't just draw the beard on?
 
2014-02-06 11:37:38 AM
Facial tattoos are almost never an improvement.
 
2014-02-06 11:38:25 AM

Ivandrago: Dwight_Yeast:Actually the "right" thing to use would be Secretary Hand, but it looks a lot like Elvish (you can guess why).  Here's Shakespeare's will:

 [upload.wikimedia.org image 538x521]

That's an awesome style and I wish I had known about it at the time. Now I need another Shakespeare quote so I can get it done with that font. Did Shakespeare say anything interesting about lawyers?
All kidding aside, that would have been a great look, but still hard to read.


he did, but it'd be tough to get as a tatoo (the 'kill all the lawyers' quote within its full context)
 
2014-02-06 11:39:51 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


The really crappy tats that seem to be popular right now is some sh*tty saying from a Hallmark card written in cursive right below the neck. That, and those stupid nautical stars. Almost every hipster has those tats and act like it makes them so special and unique.
 
2014-02-06 11:40:55 AM

Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.


But what if you are jewish?
 
2014-02-06 11:50:23 AM
I'm covered in natural tattoos.

/freckles
//ginger
///suck it haters
 
2014-02-06 11:59:23 AM

MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?


then you would be part of that tribe, wouldnt you?
 
2014-02-06 12:00:15 PM
Personally, I find ink facinating. I'll walk right up to you and ask you about yours. There's always a story.
 
2014-02-06 12:03:02 PM

MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?


I thought tattoos weren't considered "kosher" for Jews.  Maybe, I heard wrong.

/ No tats
// Not Jewish
 
2014-02-06 12:03:18 PM

Bukharin: MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?

then you would be part of that tribe, wouldnt you?


Unfortunately the italics in what I was trying to emphasize weren't easy to spot.

img.fark.net
 
2014-02-06 12:06:42 PM

MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?


Then you couldn't be buried in a Jewish cemetery.
 
2014-02-06 12:10:34 PM
she tells me. "But having it on the face is just weird.
"I'm not saying someone who has one is unfriendly or a bad person - I am open-minded.
"But put it this way, if my daughter had a tattoo put on her face I'd disown her!"


The statements immediately preceding and following the one about you being open-minded proves that you are in fact not as open-minded as you would like other people to think. Just sayin'.
 
2014-02-06 12:14:39 PM

Dwight_Yeast: Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.

Given some of the clientèle the Ritz has handled in the last century, having facial tattoos isn't going to phase them in the least.

I think this guy did the facial tattoo thing about as well as anyone:

[upload.wikimedia.org image 450x886]


If he's ever in a serious car crash, the paramedics are going to have a laugh.
 
2014-02-06 12:16:06 PM

MightyPez: Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.

Oh thank god, I thought I was the only one. The one that irrationally makes my blood boil is when they get the standard "Live, Laugh, Love" which is the same slogan found on every dollar store wall placard. What the fark does this mean??? Are you reminding people to experience the gamut of human emotions like they would somehow forget?


No, it informs people that shallow, thoughtless cretins get inked with today's equivalent of the "Hang in there, baby" poster of a kitten being abused.
 
2014-02-06 12:17:43 PM

Ivandrago: the fact that I was in the military will get me a pass because one of the good things about working in a very conservative place is that they usually give veterans a pass on stuff like that.


Replace "military" with "Vatican" and "veterans" with "priests" and it reads a little more sinisterly.
 
2014-02-06 12:21:46 PM

Ivandrago: Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.

I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


It's a literary illusion. A tramp stamp that reads PROPETY OF TYRONE is a horrible warning.
 
2014-02-06 12:25:17 PM

GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.


May I interest you in a slightly used penis gourd? I'd post a picture, but based on the post deletion I scored yesterday for a profile shot of Liz Hurley's backside, I would ask you to just GIS it.

/penis gourd.
 
2014-02-06 12:27:53 PM

give me doughnuts: Dum vivamus vivamus


Subtle, that spelling error. If you pronounce it correctly, it sounds like Elmerius Fuddio. The how-wah, the how-wah.
 
2014-02-06 12:32:34 PM

Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]


Strange.  Both my forearms are tattooed, and my W-2 says I paid about $18,200 in taxes last year.

Perhaps I should let the IRS know about this picture, and they'll give it all back.
 
2014-02-06 12:50:22 PM

99sportster: Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]

Strange.  Both my forearms are tattooed, and my W-2 says I paid about $18,200 in taxes last year.

Perhaps I should let the IRS know about this picture, and they'll give it all back.


Perhaps a person with fewer tattoos could have sheltered their money a little better.
 
2014-02-06 12:58:44 PM

Pangea: 99sportster: Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]

Strange.  Both my forearms are tattooed, and my W-2 says I paid about $18,200 in taxes last year.

Perhaps I should let the IRS know about this picture, and they'll give it all back.

Perhaps a person with fewer tattoos could have sheltered their money a little better.


Doubtful.  My IRA/401k contributions are maxed, and my accountant does a pretty good job juggling what's left.  I'm pretty sure I'm just paying "my fair share".   The accountant got it close enough this year that I'm only writing a check for an additional $455.  That was probably caused by my end-of-year bonus being higher than expected.  I'll take that.
 
2014-02-06 01:14:36 PM
I view tattoos the same way I view smoking, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, having unprotected sex with strangers, and cashing out your 401k and placing it all on black in Las Vegas: you're utterly and completely within your rights to live your life in these ways, but they're all decisions that are dumb as hell and show poor judgement or inability to think critically about risk and the potential impacts for the rest of your life.

Also, when it comes to women and tattoos, I've never looked at a beautiful woman and thought to myself, "Wow...she'd look a LOT better with a bunch of shiatty blue and green ink all over her!"
 
2014-02-06 01:15:53 PM

Valiente: GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.

May I interest you in a slightly used penis gourd? I'd post a picture, but based on the post deletion I scored yesterday for a profile shot of Liz Hurley's backside, I would ask you to just GIS it.

/penis gourd.


Screw that! I am going to GIS Liz Hurley's backside!
 
2014-02-06 01:18:15 PM

Pribar: There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category


I don't believe in isms.

/not obscure
 
2014-02-06 01:20:37 PM
gretzkyscores:

Also, when it comes to women and tattoos, I've never looked at a beautiful woman and thought to myself, "Wow...she'd look a LOT better with a bunch of shiatty blue and green ink all over her!"

Well, to be fair, I've been with some lanky pale Goth chicks on whom a well-made tat was quite fetching in the moonlight, but they tend to blow their art-school tuitions on the higher end tattooists.

Said better or more intricate tats can also indicate a preference for non-vanilla activities.

Now, I like vanilla, but not every day. Sometimes you just want Rocky Road, Tiger Tiger or lubed up and lashed over a pommel horse.

/the last is not a flavour so much as a lifestyle choice.
 
2014-02-06 01:21:52 PM
Yo, facepaint guy, imma let you finish, but "I like turtles" kid had one of the best facepaints of all time.  OF ALL TIME!
 
2014-02-06 01:23:44 PM
tattoospedia.com

LOL.

WUT?
 
2014-02-06 01:29:26 PM

lohphat: [tattoospedia.com image 697x540]

LOL.

WUT?


That guy is going to have NO excuse if it turns out that Leviticus wasn't just stoned out of his mind.
 
2014-02-06 01:32:42 PM

gretzkyscores: Also, when it comes to women and tattoos, I've never looked at a beautiful woman and thought to myself, "Wow...she'd look a LOT better with a bunch of shiatty blue and green ink all over her!"


Agreed.  Although some tramp stamps can provide useful warnings just before it's too late.  Almost like a public service.
 
2014-02-06 01:47:05 PM

gretzkyscores: I view tattoos the same way I view smoking, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, having unprotected sex with strangers, and cashing out your 401k and placing it all on black in Las Vegas: you're utterly and completely within your rights to live your life in these ways, but they're all decisions that are dumb as hell and show poor judgement or inability to think critically about risk and the potential impacts for the rest of your life.


While many people do any or all of the above and more well aware of possible impacts....and find that they simply don't care.

You view other people's choices as "poor".  That is your base argument.

It is very much the same unintelligent blather people go on about when discussing homosexuals.  What they do is obviously not your cup of tea, but as long as they're not doing it to you, why do you seem to care so much?

Mostly, it's "stop liking what I don't like".  I don't like asparagus, but I don't go out of my way to badmouth people who like to eat it, especially not as if it's the most offensive thing in the world, making them into lesser people, barely human at all.

I think it is a manifestation of self loathing.  You're pissed that so much of the world is not similar to you, not because you're self centered.  Well, you are in a way, but it is a self defense rationalization for knowing that you're the judgemental freak with some serious flaws and social issues.  You have a hard time admitting the truth, so you deflect.

Very common with "stop liking...." people in general.  Why don't those people suffer like I do?  They should, damnit!11!!! This is a horrible life and people should not be enjoying themselves or practicing their rights!!11!

A very close cousin to the religious puritan.  All these things they believe are "bad" are tools of the devil, so one must live a dreary life of sacrifice to stay away from "evil", because GOD!

Sure, if they want the benefit of their 401k  investments in the future, it's a bad idea to gamble it away.  IF   IF

See, the folly of projecting your status on other individuals?  Do you even know the meaning of what it is to be an individual?  Not unique, mind you, that's not possible with a population the size of humanity's.  But there is a very high amount of variance.

Within that variation, there are a LOT of people that are not like you, with different goals, aspirations, different tastes, different cares, etc.

It is a shame that so many people never attain self awareness and harbor such vast amounts of cognitive dissonance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-awareness
 
2014-02-06 01:50:37 PM

zimbomba63: MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?

I thought tattoos weren't considered "kosher" for Jews.  Maybe, I heard wrong.

/ No tats
// Not Jewish


Jewish law forbids them, but the old chestnut that you can't be buried in a Jewish cemetery if you have a tattoo is false.
 
2014-02-06 01:51:37 PM

8 inches: MightyPez: Bukharin: skinink: i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?

I dont mind tats, within reason, but why get tribal tats when you arent in that tribe? I dont get it. It's like getting a david star when you arent a jew.

But what if you are jewish?

Then you couldn't be buried in a Jewish cemetery.


False.
 
2014-02-06 03:04:31 PM

mike_d85: Witness99: skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.

And here I've been picturing you covered in tattoos all this time, based only on your Fark handle!

I just assumed s/he liked the Elaphant Show.
Skinamarink a dink a dink.
Skinamarink a doo.


When I get done choking on the chips I was just eating, you owe me a new keyboard.
 
2014-02-06 03:06:03 PM

vudukungfu: I'm so edgy, I have no ink.


That's how I feel about it.
 
2014-02-06 03:06:13 PM

tripleseven: GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.

Yeah WTF...

A face tattoo violates a dress code? Why? He is wearing the proper attire.

I know this is the UK and all but I'm thinking in the us, being denied access for a tattoo is grounds for a 'suin...


Well, unfortunately for you, being a moron isn't a protected class.

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE" (that isn't a protected class, even if that has nothing to do with our reasoning)
 
2014-02-06 04:06:35 PM

Ivandrago: Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.

I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


No, I was talking about the stupid lovey quotes that they think are deep. It was huge, took up half her body. It wasn't clever, or classy, or had any significance like yours does. Like I said, baffling.

You did well to choose Henry V, aside from being an apt quotation, I could rattle off the St. Crispin's day speech, and do - on the eve of Crispian. We English don't do nationalism and national pride as well as Americans, but on the eve of the battle of Agincourt I like to remind everyone around me that it's not racist to be proud of being English. Especially the French. I love reminding them.
 
2014-02-06 04:17:09 PM
I hate these bloggers that play pretend dress up and think that they're even acting remotely similar to the actual people they're studying.  If they don't get a reaction that meets their preconceived notions, they'll act continually stupider until they get a reaction.

I put on a red hat and danced naked in the middle of the road.  People were pissed!  This proves that there's a serious red hat hatred in this country.

Likewise, going about your business like an average social person who just happens to have a full facial tattoo isn't going to give you much of the same experience.

Granted, I've only met one guy personally with a grinning skull tat across his forehead, but he was an anti social lunatic.  Within minutes of meeting him, he was gay bashing, cop bashing, furious at the world for not accepting him for the unique snowflake he was.  He was also old, had really bad teeth, smelled and living in a run down shack.  (I'm a volunteer driver for the elderly, I meet all types.)   I'm sure there are some quite pleasant people with facial tats as well.
 
2014-02-06 04:26:16 PM

Kahabut: tripleseven: GameSprocket: What's with all the "dress codes" for getting into businesses? I guess a fancy restaurant might require a jacket and tie, but I can't say that I have ever actually been to a place that even does that.

Yeah WTF...

A face tattoo violates a dress code? Why? He is wearing the proper attire.

I know this is the UK and all but I'm thinking in the us, being denied access for a tattoo is grounds for a 'suin...

Well, unfortunately for you, being a moron isn't a protected class.

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE" (that isn't a protected class, even if that has nothing to do with our reasoning)


Good thing I am a moron. Because refusing service based on an arbitrary reason even outside of a "protected class" can, and has been litigated.
 
2014-02-06 04:35:28 PM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


Says someone named "Skinink".  LOL
 
2014-02-06 04:36:09 PM
And again, I am not a lawyer, and consequently, also not a moron.

http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/Publications_Unruh.htm


Yes, this is specific to California, but it basically expands on the federal civil rights act, and expressly states you cannot refuse service based on arbitrary or unreasonable grounds.

Tattoos on the face are pretty arbitrary reason for being refused service.

If I had a face tattoo, and was refused service, you bet I'd be 'suin.


In any case, it matters not, as the article is specific to Britain.
 
2014-02-06 05:04:57 PM

tripleseven: And again, I am not a lawyer, and consequently, also not a moron.

http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/Publications_Unruh.htm


Yes, this is specific to California, but it basically expands on the federal civil rights act, and expressly states you cannot refuse service based on arbitrary or unreasonable grounds.

Tattoos on the face are pretty arbitrary reason for being refused service.

If I had a face tattoo, and was refused service, you bet I'd be 'suin.


In any case, it matters not, as the article is specific to Britain.


Your assumption that someone with a face tattoo could afford a lawyer is amusing.

Good luck out there in the real world, where no one cares how precious your snowflake is.
 
2014-02-06 05:14:42 PM

Kahabut: tripleseven: And again, I am not a lawyer, and consequently, also not a moron.

http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/Publications_Unruh.htm


Yes, this is specific to California, but it basically expands on the federal civil rights act, and expressly states you cannot refuse service based on arbitrary or unreasonable grounds.

Tattoos on the face are pretty arbitrary reason for being refused service.

If I had a face tattoo, and was refused service, you bet I'd be 'suin.


In any case, it matters not, as the article is specific to Britain.

Your assumption that someone with a face tattoo could afford a lawyer is amusing.

Good luck out there in the real world, where no one cares how precious your snowflake is.


Nice rebuttal.

I'm sure when in your original response you smiled to yourself when typing moron, and you thought you'd "show me".

I am even sure your pulse went up a few ticks as you indignantly mashed the caps lock key.

But in the end, you got burned

Sorry.
 
2014-02-06 05:21:02 PM

tripleseven: Kahabut: tripleseven: And again, I am not a lawyer, and consequently, also not a moron.

http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/Publications_Unruh.htm


Yes, this is specific to California, but it basically expands on the federal civil rights act, and expressly states you cannot refuse service based on arbitrary or unreasonable grounds.

Tattoos on the face are pretty arbitrary reason for being refused service.

If I had a face tattoo, and was refused service, you bet I'd be 'suin.


In any case, it matters not, as the article is specific to Britain.

Your assumption that someone with a face tattoo could afford a lawyer is amusing.

Good luck out there in the real world, where no one cares how precious your snowflake is.

Nice rebuttal.

I'm sure when in your original response you smiled to yourself when typing moron, and you thought you'd "show me".

I am even sure your pulse went up a few ticks as you indignantly mashed the caps lock key.

But in the end, you got burned

Sorry.


How the hell do you figure?  You quote a specific law that doesn't apply to, pretty much anyone, and which can't be shown to apply even to the situation at hand.  As that would require proof that you know what the business owners motives would be, and you can't.  Also, no one cares what the nanny state of California has to say on the subject.

Stop acting like a child.  I'll be back when you grow up and want to discuss the merits of getting full facial tattoos, and if it constitutes discrimination to refuse someone that stupid service.
 
2014-02-06 05:39:24 PM

Kahabut: tripleseven: Kahabut: tripleseven: And again, I am not a lawyer, and consequently, also not a moron.

http://www.dfeh.ca.gov/Publications_Unruh.htm


Yes, this is specific to California, but it basically expands on the federal civil rights act, and expressly states you cannot refuse service based on arbitrary or unreasonable grounds.

Tattoos on the face are pretty arbitrary reason for being refused service.

If I had a face tattoo, and was refused service, you bet I'd be 'suin.


In any case, it matters not, as the article is specific to Britain.

Your assumption that someone with a face tattoo could afford a lawyer is amusing.

Good luck out there in the real world, where no one cares how precious your snowflake is.

Nice rebuttal.

I'm sure when in your original response you smiled to yourself when typing moron, and you thought you'd "show me".

I am even sure your pulse went up a few ticks as you indignantly mashed the caps lock key.

But in the end, you got burned

Sorry.

How the hell do you figure?  You quote a specific law that doesn't apply to, pretty much anyone, and which can't be shown to apply even to the situation at hand.  As that would require proof that you know what the business owners motives would be, and you can't.  Also, no one cares what the nanny state of California has to say on the subject.

Stop acting like a child.  I'll be back when you grow up and want to discuss the merits of getting full facial tattoos, and if it constitutes discrimination to refuse someone that stupid service.


I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.
 
2014-02-06 06:17:45 PM
I do the bulk of hiring for my company.  And I'm with a lot of the people here in this thread who generally try to pigeonhole and then denigrate entire swaths of people by something as trivial as fashion.  I, too, will turn someone out on the street if they don't adhere to a very strict set of codes, both external and internal, that I also adhere to.  I say "well, good luck on your continued unemployment....not!" and send them on their way. And you know what?  I've managed to hire some pretty stupid and worthless douchebags.  Truly a bunch of assholes, through and through.  But hey, none of them have that certain trait that I personally find mildly non-offensive, so....there's that.
 
2014-02-06 06:55:31 PM

tripleseven: I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.


Whichever department of the intarwebs is responsible for starting memes better be all over that.
 
2014-02-06 07:00:59 PM
How can we forget these blasts from the past?

lh5.googleusercontent.com

3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2014-02-06 07:28:26 PM

LoneVVolf: tripleseven: I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.

Whichever department of the intarwebs is responsible for starting memes better be all over that.


Apparently its the fark filter. It originally said "Boobies". Or Boobies.
 
2014-02-06 07:29:18 PM

tripleseven: LoneVVolf: tripleseven: I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.

Whichever department of the intarwebs is responsible for starting memes better be all over that.

Apparently its the fark filter. It originally said "Boobies". Or Boobies.


fark it. Goddam filter.
 
2014-02-06 08:46:45 PM

tripleseven: tripleseven: LoneVVolf: tripleseven: I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.

Whichever department of the intarwebs is responsible for starting memes better be all over that.

Apparently its the fark filter. It originally said "Boobies". Or Boobies.

fark it. Goddam filter.


you really are kind of special aren't you?
 
2014-02-06 08:59:44 PM

Kahabut: tripleseven: tripleseven: LoneVVolf: tripleseven: I can smell the smoke from here.

Your original debate was that unless you were a member of a protected class you could be refused service for anything.

No, not really. You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne. Likewise a very decent argument could be made that it can also apply to facial tattoos. As long as they aren't obscene, racist, or possibly gang affiliated, you'd have a decent case for a lawsuit. Which was my original statement.

You on the other hand, whargarbled your Weeners, adding an insult. So very clever. You were subsequently proved wrong, and responded by moving the goalpost, adding in a strawman, and a healthy dose of conjecture.

Congrats, you hit the internet argument trifecta.

Whichever department of the intarwebs is responsible for starting memes better be all over that.

Apparently its the fark filter. It originally said "Boobies". Or Boobies.

fark it. Goddam filter.

you really are kind of special aren't you?


Sure...as you said I'm a snowflake.
 
2014-02-07 01:18:20 AM

tripleseven: You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne.


could you cite the law that says that?

kthxsby!
 
2014-02-07 11:31:11 AM

log_jammin: tripleseven: You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne.

could you cite the law that says that?

kthxsby!


I've already provided a link. Scroll up.
 
2014-02-07 11:42:55 AM
No. Just link it.
 
2014-02-07 12:00:47 PM

log_jammin: tripleseven: You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne.

could you cite the law that says that?

kthxsby!


As a business owner you can refuse to serve anybody you choose.  Private Property.   Now get off my lawn.

/no shirt, no shoes, no service.
 
2014-02-07 12:57:34 PM

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: log_jammin: tripleseven: You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne.

could you cite the law that says that?

kthxsby!

As a business owner you can refuse to serve anybody you choose.  Private Property.   Now get off my lawn.

/no shirt, no shoes, no service.


I see that you're another one who failed to read the link provided.

No shoes, no shirt no service is likely covered under health codes.  Refusing to serve someone for an arbitrary reason, when they are complicit with all other standards is not specifically defined in law (except California, and I suspect a few other states, but I'm not doing your homework for you).  In short, yeah, you have every right to "WHARGARBLE I WILL REFUSE ANYONE I DONT LIKE PRIVATE PROPERTY WHARGARBLE" all you like.  That sign wont indemnify you against a lawsuit if you decided not to serve someone because you don't like their face.
 
2014-02-07 01:08:59 PM
I'll also add that I am not a lawyer.  Any posts made by me in this thread are not to be construed as legal advice in any way.
 
2014-02-07 05:27:43 PM

tripleseven: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: log_jammin: tripleseven: You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne.

could you cite the law that says that?

kthxsby!

As a business owner you can refuse to serve anybody you choose.  Private Property.   Now get off my lawn.

/no shirt, no shoes, no service.

I see that you're another one who failed to read the link provided.

No shoes, no shirt no service is likely covered under health codes.  Refusing to serve someone for an arbitrary reason, when they are complicit with all other standards is not specifically defined in law (except California, and I suspect a few other states, but I'm not doing your homework for you).  In short, yeah, you have every right to "WHARGARBLE I WILL REFUSE ANYONE I DONT LIKE PRIVATE PROPERTY WHARGARBLE" all you like.  That sign wont indemnify you against a lawsuit if you decided not to serve someone because you don't like their face.


I think it pretty much depends on if you are in a 'protected class'  like black, Asian, gay, etc.  For example: in a recent case, a California court decided that a motorcycle club had no discrimination claim against a sports bar that had denied members admission to the bar because they refused to remove their "colors," or patches, which signified club membership. The court held that the refusal of service was not based on the club members' unconventional dress, but was to protect a legitimate business interest in preventing fights between rival club members.
So I'm guessing if you are black with a face tattoo you will be allowed in.  If you're white - HOLD ON THEIR SON.  Unless the business owner can prove that the face tattoo makes him some sort of rival gang.

/not a lawyer or lawyer's spokesman.
//did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night however.
 
2014-02-07 07:00:37 PM

Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: tripleseven: Four Horsemen of the Domestic Dispute: log_jammin: tripleseven: You can't refuse to serve redheads. You can't refuse service to someone with acne.

could you cite the law that says that?

kthxsby!

As a business owner you can refuse to serve anybody you choose.  Private Property.   Now get off my lawn.

/no shirt, no shoes, no service.

I see that you're another one who failed to read the link provided.

No shoes, no shirt no service is likely covered under health codes.  Refusing to serve someone for an arbitrary reason, when they are complicit with all other standards is not specifically defined in law (except California, and I suspect a few other states, but I'm not doing your homework for you).  In short, yeah, you have every right to "WHARGARBLE I WILL REFUSE ANYONE I DONT LIKE PRIVATE PROPERTY WHARGARBLE" all you like.  That sign wont indemnify you against a lawsuit if you decided not to serve someone because you don't like their face.

I think it pretty much depends on if you are in a 'protected class'  like black, Asian, gay, etc.  For example: in a recent case, a California court decided that a motorcycle club had no discrimination claim against a sports bar that had denied members admission to the bar because they refused to remove their "colors," or patches, which signified club membership. The court held that the refusal of service was not based on the club members' unconventional dress, but was to protect a legitimate business interest in preventing fights between rival club members.
So I'm guessing if you are black with a face tattoo you will be allowed in.  If you're white - HOLD ON THEIR SON.  Unless the business owner can prove that the face tattoo makes him some sort of rival gang.

/not a lawyer or lawyer's spokesman.
//did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night however.


His point is not that it's expressly illegal, but that someone could possibly sue and win, even with said party being outside that specified sub-class of people.

The red-head is a pretty plain example.  Really, in the spirit of the law, it's no different than banning people in silly hats with beards and big noses.

The laws are written for specific classes because there was already heavy persecution against them, but who's to say they're not also preventative measure about choosing a different genetic trait such as red hair.

The facial tattoo thing, it all would come down to what sort of business it is.   Specific clubs with a specific target clientele, that would be understandable to many.  I wouldn't want someone in assless black leather chaps and other S&M biker gear in my western themed establishment where all attending wear western wear, or as my lawyer or doctor.

but if he's being banned from any given store that really want's everyone's money and doesn't really have a dress code, he could stand to win.

I mean, what if Wal-mart had a dress code and refused service to people that were fully clothed but looked "ugly"?

If it were a blanket practice(even if just for a given store), they would certainly stand to lose a lot of money.

Now, the way most of these places are able to exclude someone, they have a plethora of examples of how they let similar guy X do as he would.  It goes to prove they based their ban on personal behavior more than his appearance.

If you ban one shabbily dressed(say, stained sweats and a hoodie) red-head from your nightclub, but let the hot ones(in stylish apparel) in, you couldn't claim they barred all people of red hair.

Even if a place is found "not guilty" of prejudice on scale, the court case can draw enough attention to add a given class or establish a re-wording of the law.  If found "guilty" a court could manage to set an important precedent and a large step for the same changes. There is a definite grey area where law on such a thing is concerned, whether or not it's technically illegal is sometimes irrelevant.
 
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