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2014-02-05 11:56:27 PM
See, but under all that ink he's still a white guy.
 
2014-02-06 12:00:09 AM
The Mirror is there?
 
2014-02-06 12:40:02 AM
No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.
 
2014-02-06 12:41:55 AM

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Well, maybe if 'there' was a carnival ticket booth...
 
2014-02-06 01:39:54 AM
I tried to read the article, but I found out that I just don't care about people who make very poor decisions in life and whether they get access to upscale hotels or not..
 
2014-02-06 05:57:12 AM
I think the problem is that common wisdom is so against facial tattoos, that it is assumed you must have been an idiot to not have thought of that when you got the thing.
 
2014-02-06 05:57:18 AM
"Hey everyone look at me, I an an attention whore!"

*first inconvenience*

"I demand to be treated just like everyone else!"
 
2014-02-06 05:58:34 AM

zzrhardy: "Hey everyone look at me, I an an attention whore!"

*first inconvenience*

"I demand to be treated just like everyone else!"


"I demand that you fall all over yourselves in admiration of my individuality."
 
2014-02-06 06:00:16 AM
upload.wikimedia.orgi4.mirror.co.uk

You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don't care if they're black, white, purple or green"... Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they're suffocating - then help'em.
 
2014-02-06 06:03:08 AM
...who has changed his name by deed poll to King of Ink Land King Body Art The Extreme Ink-Ite...

Yep, sounds exactly like the sort of person I'd want to hire.  I'm sure that he would be an asset to my business...if I was running an attention whoring freak or reality show.
 
2014-02-06 06:05:28 AM
You disfigure yourself, then complain about people taking offense at you disfiguring yourself? fark you.
 
2014-02-06 06:10:56 AM
i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.
 
2014-02-06 06:11:51 AM
Also depends on the quality and nature of the tattoos. Anything that looks amateur shouts "ex con".
 
2014-02-06 06:12:56 AM
Non-verbal expressions are still a form of communication and as an employer, I have a stake in the message you're broadcasting.

"Hi, I have poor impulse control!" Or "I have poor planning of outcomes tendencies." Or "HEY LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION!" are messages I don't want you to tell my customers. It's no different from you showing up in PJs instead of reasonable business attire says "I'm an overgrown child."

Congrats on your individualism. Good luck on your self-employment career.

Might I miss a really quirky, talented person? Maybe. But my guess is that's the exception, not the rule, and you'll be panhandling before long. I see more of you on the streets begging for you next bong hit instead of being a functioning member of society.

Good luck.
 
2014-02-06 06:16:47 AM
There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category
 
2014-02-06 06:17:43 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


farking A this.
 
2014-02-06 06:19:54 AM

Baron Harkonnen: [upload.wikimedia.org image 475x359][i4.mirror.co.uk image 615x409]

You know when it comes to racism, people say: " I don't care if they're black, white, purple or green"... Ooh hold on now: Purple or Green? You gotta draw the line somewhere! To hell with purple people! - Unless they're suffocating - then help'em.


the irony is that most employers wouldn't hire either of them.

indeed, mitch's long hair and indoor sunglasses are essentially his own tattoos and/or taboos.

if tattoo-face guy had decent jokes he may as well be the next mitch hedberg.

the world may never know
 
2014-02-06 06:20:25 AM

log_jammin: I tried to read the article, but I found out that I just don't care about people who make very poor decisions in life and whether they get access to upscale hotels or not..


II do - I care about everybody - but I just don't know what to do for somebody who has set themselves an artificial hurdle like this - it doesn't seem like my caring or not caring is going to make much difference.
 
2014-02-06 06:20:41 AM
Oh look, it's that tattoo thread again.
 
2014-02-06 06:22:28 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.

farking A this.


i18.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-06 06:24:16 AM

BumpInTheNight: ...who has changed his name by deed poll to King of Ink Land King Body Art The Extreme Ink-Ite...

Yep, sounds exactly like the sort of person I'd want to hire.  I'm sure that he would be an asset to my business...if I was running an attention whoring freak or reality show.


That would look pretty sweet on a business card though
 
2014-02-06 06:25:08 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


And here I've been picturing you covered in tattoos all this time, based only on your Fark handle!
 
2014-02-06 06:26:03 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


taking a piss on an internet forum is way easier to hide
 
2014-02-06 06:30:05 AM

Witness99: skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.

And here I've been picturing you covered in tattoos all this time, based only on your Fark handle!


I just assumed s/he liked the Elaphant Show.
Skinamarink a dink a dink.
Skinamarink a doo.
 
2014-02-06 06:30:20 AM
I thought we had all agreed already that too many tattoos are ugly and stupid.
Now if we can only agree on how to solve the budget deficit.
 
2014-02-06 06:30:33 AM
Tattoos are the equivalent of having bell-bottom jeans permanently grafted onto your legs in 1973.
 
2014-02-06 06:32:47 AM
www.vaporsnyc.com
 
2014-02-06 06:34:21 AM

Descartes: I thought we had all agreed already that too many tattoos are ugly and stupid.
Now if we can only agree on how to solve the budget deficit.


all of our reps should have barcode tattoos that let us know which idiotic policy they voted for.
 
2014-02-06 06:38:42 AM
the tat would be on their forehead. bad policy means they get fired and have to look for a new job with that tat on their face
 
2014-02-06 06:47:43 AM

skinink: rant


Given that user name, not sure if troll.

If troll, good job on getting Ogre to bite.

Meh.  I don't mind tatoos, as long as the work itself is not ugly or offensive in nature.  For most, it's a shock thing that they get over in time, just like people of naturally varying colors.

AS forlohphat: Non-verbal expressions are still a form of communication and as an employer, I have a stake in the message you're broadcasting.

"Hi, I have poor impulse control!" Or "I have poor planning of outcomes tendencies." Or "HEY LOOK AT ME I NEED ATTENTION!" are messages I don't want you to tell my customers. It's no different from you showing up in PJs instead of reasonable business attire says "I'm an overgrown child."

Congrats on your individualism. Good luck on your self-employment career.

Might I miss a really quirky, talented person? Maybe. But my guess is that's the exception, not the rule, and you'll be panhandling before long. I see more of you on the streets begging for you next bong hit instead of being a functioning member of society.

Good luck.


Coorelation vs Causation
(or maybe fallacy of association.)
A lot of poor people(Ie your bums/beggars) have tattoos because they are stupid.  Not all stupid people have tattoos. Not all people with public tattoos are stupid.

I tend to judge people on their behavior, and attempt to not be prejudice. Sure, some people are ugly or otherwise hit that area of my mind that forces me to find them distasteful(that is instinct and cannot be stopped), but I don't base predictions of their character on that.

That's called rationalization.  You are trying to convince yourself and legitimize your prejudice.  Similar to how people are racist against blacks, verbally associating them with crime and violence to justify their natural distaste for their appearance.

*shrugs*

Pribar: There was a study done in the 60s or 70s that gauged peoples reaction to dialects, the conclusion that the researcher came to is that we are very social little monkeys at our core, upon hearing a familiar dialect we group people into the "brother" category, hear a different dialect and its into the "other" category, the more unfamiliar the dialect the higher the tension and distrust was, This is on the same principle, what is familiar is ok what is outside the norm sets off the little monkey still buried in our hindbrain screaming for us to run. Its the seat of all the"isms"  (racism, sexism, etc) but in this case its a self inflicted banishment to the "other" category


This.  It's natural to find distaste in anything from race to dialect/accent to retardation.  To take action on it, or make hate speech against it, is it's own little sub-group, hate mongering from people who are lacking in the self awareness category(which is a sadly large ratio in the human populace).

On a side note:
I would think that the make-up, considering there's facial hair, likely with paint on it, would be a dead giveaway as to it not being a tattoo, if one were close enough to observe that.
 
2014-02-06 06:49:40 AM
I have a foot long beard and get a similar amount of attention in public. It's strange going through life with three distinguishing charachteristics, when I used to get by with tall and bald.

/I need to start hitting on the staring chicks.
 
2014-02-06 07:01:00 AM

wildcardjack: I have a foot long beard and get a similar amount of attention in public. It's strange going through life with three distinguishing charachteristics, when I used to get by with tall and bald.

/I need to start hitting on the staring chicks.


Same thing with my foot long Johnson, bro.
 
2014-02-06 07:01:24 AM

Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]


I've got a tattoo in the red zone (back of my head), and aside from a few months after being downsized, I've been gainfully employed the 7 or so years it's been there. Currently in a job that doesn't care, and there's make up for interviews or future ones that do. Takes about 15 minutes for me to cover it to the point where no one can tell.

/CSB
 
2014-02-06 07:02:46 AM
The bigger the gauge, the lower the wage.....
 
2014-02-06 07:02:58 AM

wildcardjack: I have a foot long beard and get a similar amount of attention in public. It's strange going through life with three distinguishing charachteristics, when I used to get by with tall and bald.

/I need to start hitting on the staring chicks.


I would have thought the popularity of duck dynasty would have knocked "long beard" off the weird list.
 
2014-02-06 07:13:45 AM
People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

i265.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-06 07:20:56 AM

skinink: i think it's so stupid when i see these young adults who are covered in them and expect me to be impressed. tats are ugly to me. i would never even consider getting one. it makes me laugh when i hear people say that they got theirs to define who they are personally. hahaha, are you kidding me? how can they be individuals when they are the very definition of conformity? EVERYONE nowadays, seems to have them. i have noticed also that many people who have them want people to be scared of them. why? why should i be scared of you? what,because you're a nut case with poor impulse control?it's like ok i get it; you have a lot of tattoos. i get it,you like wasting your money.

i get it,you have a disposable income. why don't these people really try to be different? whenever they do get 'em,their tats are ALWAYS--- THE SAME! hey look at me, i have a tribal tat. yeah, you and 47 million others.what's your point?you wanna impress me? don't get one! tats are almost always associated with people who make bad choices in life. some of these choices affect only them,but unfortunately, most of their choices negatively impact innocent people's lives. like gangs-for instance;they are always covered in them.


Agreed. I can see maybe one that is easily covered by a shirt though. But lots of them or the sleeve look says "i make poor decisions".

A military tattoo i can see. It is a symbol of brotherhood. The rest i can't see.
 
2014-02-06 07:25:27 AM
I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.
 
2014-02-06 07:30:51 AM

Error 482: Hawnkee: [www.vaporsnyc.com image 610x629]

I've got a tattoo in the red zone (back of my head), and aside from a few months after being downsized, I've been gainfully employed the 7 or so years it's been there. Currently in a job that doesn't care, and there's make up for interviews or future ones that do. Takes about 15 minutes for me to cover it to the point where no one can tell.

/CSB


I have forearm tattoos in the 'I don't pay taxes' zone, but I work as a GS-9 as a sys admin for the government. So, I guess, techincally, I also cost taxes.
 
2014-02-06 07:32:01 AM

OhioUGrad: People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

[i265.photobucket.com image 500x356]


Notice how that guy's tattoos are all covered up by workplace-compatible clothes?  He must be part of the problem...
 
2014-02-06 07:32:33 AM

Somacandra: No, he was gauging reactions when trying to enter a place as a customer. Not a job applicant. Huge difference. Most places will gladly take your money if you have visible tattoos. The problem/hypocrisy is that the same person wouldn't be able to be hired there to take someone else's money.


Given some of the clientèle the Ritz has handled in the last century, having facial tattoos isn't going to phase them in the least.

I think this guy did the facial tattoo thing about as well as anyone:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2014-02-06 07:33:05 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


Oh thank god, I thought I was the only one. The one that irrationally makes my blood boil is when they get the standard "Live, Laugh, Love" which is the same slogan found on every dollar store wall placard. What the fark does this mean??? Are you reminding people to experience the gamut of human emotions like they would somehow forget?
 
2014-02-06 07:33:16 AM
Rattrap007:  A military tattoo i can see. It is a symbol of brotherhood. The rest i can't see.

I got all my tattoos while I was in the Army and I work in a very conservative place. Luckily is suit and tie every day so they never show, but if someone did happen to see it, the fact that I was in the military will get me a pass because one of the good things about working in a very conservative place is that they usually give veterans a pass on stuff like that.
 
2014-02-06 07:35:04 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?
 
2014-02-06 07:40:12 AM

Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.


I've seen some which were good.  Usually short, and usually interesting if I had to stop and translate them out of another language.  Preferably Latin.

/one of the first people I met who was heavily tattooed, 20 years ago, had the the first stanza of the Iliad in Greek on his arm. "Sing, goddess, the anger of Peleus' son Achilleus..."
//What impresses classics majors...
 
2014-02-06 07:41:04 AM
I have a tattoo. I got it not to define who I am, but so I would never forget who I am. For some of you, that's easy. For me, it ain't so easy. I needed a constant reminder of what I wanted to be. I no longer need that reminder, but the fact that I used to need it has become a part of the person I am now. No one else in the world has the same tattoo I have (I think). I designed it, though of course the inker could have given it to someone else afterwards without my knowledge.

Tattoos are not always simply attempts to be noticed. They are not always just a way to feel cooler. Just like clothing, hairstyles, makeup, a favourite band, or a beloved car, they really can reflect who a person is.

Maybe next time, instead of simply seeing a tattoo and thinking, "Wow, what an idiot," you could consider what made the person get it.

Some people are TOTALLY idiots. But not all.
 
2014-02-06 07:42:10 AM
What? No social ostracism and general societal contribution to your self-fulfilling victim complex?

Kinda defeats the purpose of getting a face tattoo...
 
2014-02-06 07:43:49 AM

Ivandrago: Slaxl: I met a girl with a tattoo inked up the side of her body, with a pathetic "inspirational" quote about love. The quote itself was the kind of brainless mush people think is deep, but in reality devoid of intelligence. It would have been bad enough posted on Facebook, like many reprobates do, but to get it tattoo'd all up the side of her body? It's just ... baffling.

I don't care about normal tattoos, pictures n' stuff, not my thing but go for it, I can at least understand why people do it, but the quotations? They're always 100% awful. Can someone put a stop to it? Thanks.

I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


Depends on the font. Old English? Awesome. Comic Sans, Papyrus, or any version of Arial? DIAF.

/honestly thought it was *into* the breach, too
 
2014-02-06 07:43:53 AM

Ivandrago: I've got "once more unto the breach dear friends, once more" from Henry V on my right arm to commemorate going to Iraq a second time with the same group of close friends I went with the first time. Is that awful?


It's a little cliched, but it's hard to find any good line from Shakespeare that isn't.

Frankly, the thing is that it's important to you.

/I've thought about getting a tattoo for 20-odd years, and I've yet to come up with anything I want to look at every day.
//My memory carries all the scars I need reminding of.
 
2014-02-06 07:46:54 AM

GoldSpider: OhioUGrad: People can be judgmental about any and every thing you can imagine. The good news is that a lot of close-minded people are dying off.

[i265.photobucket.com image 500x356]

Notice how that guy's tattoos are all covered up by workplace-compatible clothes?  He must be part of the problem...


Not according to Hawnkee's posting. Although I don't care if anyone has tattoos one way or another, I've seen some Farkers severely dislike them which usually makes posting and reading posts all the more enjoyable.
 
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