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2014-02-06 08:39:57 AM  

Drunken_Irish_Joker: Alien Robot: MythDragon: I was going up I95 one day and two state troopers (VA) pulled out 3 cars ahead of me, got abreast of each other and slowed traffic down to 45 MPH.

Do the Maryland state troopers still go walk out into the middle of I495 and point at you to get you to pull over for speeding? That was some brass-balls and rock-brained kinda stuff they did back in the day. I always expected one to get run over sooner or later from someone not paying attention.


They stopped that a couple years ago, when a Howard County cop got killed doing the same thing on 32 near i95. Unfortunately was only a matter of time before it happened.


I saw soem state troopers doing it by ocean city a couple months back. So it is still done, maybe just not on batshiat crazy places like 495.
 
2014-02-06 08:42:11 AM  

KStDrew: So, the cop is now a firefighter and vice versa?


yes. exactly.

/no. not at all.
 
2014-02-06 08:48:39 AM  

murderguy: When cops start obeying the law and policing their own, I'll respect them. Until they're thugs that should be openly despised.


The problem is that anyone stupid enough to think, much less actually say, something like this doesn't have opinions anyone cares about.
 
2014-02-06 08:51:18 AM  
Just wait until the LEO's house is on fire... Karma man
 
2014-02-06 09:01:30 AM  

maram500: lazymojo: untaken_name: fusillade762: Non-Blaze link

Another non-Blaze link

Yet another non-Blaze link

Is it so goddamn hard NOT to link to Glenn Beck's personal derpspew site?

But you'll throw out npr and gawker links? Hahahahahahaha.

Yeah, because npr and gawker are comparable to this crap:

It's just the "Flip side of the coin," right?  They have their opinions, he has his, and there's no objective way to conclude either way.  idiot.

Except that Gawker and NPR don't charge for content, espouse racism and discrimination, or advocate that you BUY GOLD NOW AND I'M DEFINITELY NOT GETTING PAID TO SAY THAT.


Yeah, NPR doesn't charge for content...they work for free!  You have no choice but to pay for the content that goes out to their upper-middle class white audience, even if you never listen or visit their site. And I've donated to NPR and PBS, because I like them, even when I make fun, I'm just not completely oblivious to reality.  Only partially.

I
 
2014-02-06 09:05:03 AM  
At auto accident scenes most police officers are only qualified to complete paperwork and direct traffic.  Why can't they just stick to what they know?  That would certainly help the situation a lot more.
 
2014-02-06 09:06:13 AM  

Katolu: Smoking GNU: maram500: When I read about police stupidity like this, I feel my blood pressure rising. Then I remember this CSB:

A couple months ago, I was waiting on the side of the road to cross five lanes of traffic on foot. (To say my city is pedestrian unfriendly is a huge understatement.) A cop is pulling out of the parking lot I'm next to, and he leans out to ask if I'm waiting on the bus. I explain my situation, and he just says "Hang on a sec." He pulls out to the middle of the street, flips on the lights, and gets out to stop traffic in both directions. Leaning on my cane, trying to hobble across quickly, I get about halfway across when the cop tells me to take my time.

/How awesome is that?

Wow. Nice dude, there. He probably got fired for not being an aaahole.

It's sad that this one good cop is the exception and not the rule.


Oh wow, he helped an old man cross the street...such a Good Cop! I guess that makes up for the three kids and a grandma he tased because they didn't get their hands up quick enough - the two black guys he beat the crap out of and sprinkled crack on -  the six Hispanics he pulled over and harassed because they were Hispanic - and the drug dealer who kicks him a cut of his business to keep him off his back. Yeah, there's a good cop out there that will help an old man cross the street. He's the exception and not the rule.
 
2014-02-06 09:13:09 AM  

Alien Robot: MythDragon: I was going up I95 one day and two state troopers (VA) pulled out 3 cars ahead of me, got abreast of each other and slowed traffic down to 45 MPH.

Do the Maryland state troopers still go walk out into the middle of I495 and point at you to get you to pull over for speeding? That was some brass-balls and rock-brained kinda stuff they did back in the day. I always expected one to get run over sooner or later from someone not paying attention.


Korean police would do that. We'd just wave at them as we passed. Of course we were in military vehicles, so we could do whatever we wanted.
 
2014-02-06 09:25:25 AM  

murderguy: Drunken_Irish_Joker: Do the Maryland state troopers still go walk out into the middle of I495 and point at you to get you to pull over for speeding? That was some brass-balls and rock-brained kinda stuff they did back in the day. I always expected one to get run over sooner or later from someone not paying attention.

They stopped that a couple years ago, when a Howard County cop got killed doing the same thing on 32 near i95. Unfortunately was only a matter of time before it happened.

As for all the cop hate here: way to go, Fark. That's the sort of mature, intelligent response I have come to expect from this establishment.

When cops start obeying the law and policing their own, I'll respect them.  Until they're thugs that should be openly despised.


I understand where cop hate comes from, and I won't tell you how to feel about them. But whether or not they deserve respect, most of your interactions with them will be smoother if you at least treat them as if you respect them.

/you might even find that some of your preconceptions need adjusting. Or not, YMMV
 
2014-02-06 09:37:37 AM  

fusillade762: Non-Blaze link

Another non-Blaze link

Yet another non-Blaze link

Is it so goddamn hard NOT to link to Glenn Beck's personal derpspew site?


Thank you.
 
2014-02-06 09:44:53 AM  

FnkyTwn: CSB: Twice in my life now, when speeding 15+ over the speed limit, I've passed speedtrap cops, saw them, realized I was busted and immediately pulled over before they could even get their lights on. Eventually they pull up behind me, and I've gotten off with warnings and perplexed looks. I also keep both hands on the steering wheel as they approach.

I'm not a hot chick, just some dude who realizes cops have a job to do that basically puts them into surprise combat situations all day every day. Treat them accordingly.


Got pulled over for the first time in 25 years last summer:

Cop:  "Sir, can I..."
Me:  "Gun"
Cop:  "Where?"
Me:  "Left inside coat." *head gesture*
Cop:  "Permit?"
Me:  "Wallet."
Cop:  "Speeding?"
Me:  "I'm an idiot."
Cop:  "Slow down and have a nice day."

/DEFINITELY not a hot chick.
 
2014-02-06 09:52:32 AM  
Firemen tend to be a-holes. Film at 11.
 
2014-02-06 10:15:25 AM  
Parking a fire truck at an accident scene is a deliberate tactical maneuver that every firefighter is trained for. You park the big, heavy truck in a blocking position so that when some rubber-necking jackhole comes flying into the scene, he just creams the truck instead of wiping out the accident victims and rescue workers. If I am the firefighter in charge of an accident scene, my absolute #1 priority is the safety of my firefighters and other first responders. Period. Everything else is secondary. So yes, I'm going to park my great big truck in a place that might not be convenient. I'm going to slow down traffic and create a safe zone for my guys to work in. I'm going to do it as safely as possible for the other drivers and keep traffic flowing as much as possible, but you getting to work on time is not my primary concern, and I will slow or stop traffic as much as I feel is necessary to ensure the safety of my scene. You would think that a cop would understand this, but they tend to have different priorities and want to keep traffic moving as much as possible. Generally resolving those conflicting priorities involves a little discussion and cooperation between the FD and PD, but occasionally it turns into a dick measuring contest and shiat like this happens.
 
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2014-02-06 10:15:50 AM  
George Carlin...
From  You Are All Diseased:
"And speaking of tough guys, I'm getting a little tired of hearing that after six policemen got arrested for shoving a floor lamp up some black guy's ass and ripping his intestines out, the police department announces they're gonna have "sensitivity training". I say, hey, if you need special training to be told not to jam a large cumbersome object up someone's asshole, maybe you're too farked up to be on the police force in the first place. You know what they ought to do? They ought to have two new requirements for being on the police: Intelligence and decency. You never can tell; it might just work; it certainly hasn't been tried yet."
 
2014-02-06 10:19:04 AM  
That is polar opposite of how things work in MI.  Cops here don't care much about getting traffic moving again.  If there is a fatal accident on the expressway, it will be closed for at least two hours and they don't bother with directing traffic around the spot, you have to figure that out on your own.  It is the biggest reason why I use Waze, come up on a closed road, look at the map on the screen and pick a go around.

The only time I was bothered by how police and emergency crews handled a scene was the time I was almost passing a scene when the guy shut it down and didn't let anyone pass where a clear lane was right there.  A busy backroad intersection and the guy shut the whole thing down with no explanation and it was a several mile detour.  I didn't find out till late in the evening that it was fatal, and the location was shut down for several hours.  They could've left the busier road open, because both cars were in one yard and no debris on the road at all, but that isn't how they roll.

/it's still the saddest accident scene I have ever seen.
 
2014-02-06 10:22:48 AM  
You know what firefighters and police have in common?

They both wanted to be firefighters when they grew up.
 
2014-02-06 10:29:03 AM  

Unixfreak: You know what firefighters and police have in common?

They both wanted to be firefighters when they grew up.


Some police wanted to be wrestlers when they were kids.

That changed when they found out the punches weren't real.
 
2014-02-06 11:16:45 AM  

fusillade762: Non-Blaze link

Another non-Blaze link

Yet another non-Blaze link

Is it so goddamn hard NOT to link to Glenn Beck's personal derpspew site?


The butthurt is strong in this one.
 
2014-02-06 11:29:04 AM  
Ahh, the CHP... known around these parts as AAA with guns.
 
2014-02-06 11:52:51 AM  
FnkyTwn:

I'm not a hot chick, just some dude who realizes cops have a job to do that basically puts them into surprise combat situations all day every day. Treat them accordingly.

That's bullshiat, they just wish they were in combat situations every day.  After so many weeks of handing out fix it tickets they start manufacturing drama and taking it out on innocent people so they can play superpig in their farked up minds.
 
2014-02-06 12:00:42 PM  

Some Bass Playing Guy: JerkyMeat: Cops are garbage.  The entire nation should basically weapon up and take them out.

You're either a troll or an idiot. Probably both.


Jackboots taste better when licked don't they?
 
2014-02-06 12:01:30 PM  

sandbar67: Katolu: Smoking GNU: maram500: When I read about police stupidity like this, I feel my blood pressure rising. Then I remember this CSB:

A couple months ago, I was waiting on the side of the road to cross five lanes of traffic on foot. (To say my city is pedestrian unfriendly is a huge understatement.) A cop is pulling out of the parking lot I'm next to, and he leans out to ask if I'm waiting on the bus. I explain my situation, and he just says "Hang on a sec." He pulls out to the middle of the street, flips on the lights, and gets out to stop traffic in both directions. Leaning on my cane, trying to hobble across quickly, I get about halfway across when the cop tells me to take my time.

/How awesome is that?

Wow. Nice dude, there. He probably got fired for not being an aaahole.

It's sad that this one good cop is the exception and not the rule.

Oh wow, he helped an old man cross the street...such a Good Cop! I guess that makes up for the three kids and a grandma he tased because they didn't get their hands up quick enough - the two black guys he beat the crap out of and sprinkled crack on -  the six Hispanics he pulled over and harassed because they were Hispanic - and the drug dealer who kicks him a cut of his business to keep him off his back. Yeah, there's a good cop out there that will help an old man cross the street. He's the exception and not the rule.


That's pretty funny.
 
2014-02-06 12:17:13 PM  
Isn't it a crime to interfere with an EMT or first responder during execution of their duties?
 
2014-02-06 12:18:15 PM  
Hey, wait a minute. A Blaze link to a flamewar story about a fireman?
 
2014-02-06 12:25:53 PM  

some_beer_drinker: JerkyMeat: Cops are garbage.  The entire nation should basically weapon up and take them out.

you first...


Not a chance.  These "militia" types are long on talk and short on action.
 
2014-02-06 12:28:57 PM  
When I took driver's ed, they used the phrase, "protect the wreck." Isn't that universally known, sorta like not going up against a Sicilian when death is on the line?
 
2014-02-06 12:41:56 PM  

Biff_Steel: Firemen tend to be a-holes. Film at 11.


THIS That and the Other thing.


My brother and a guy on my hockey team are make believe (volunteer) firemen. They seem to be worse.
 
2014-02-06 12:48:53 PM  

fusillade762: Is it so goddamn hard NOT to link to Glenn Beck's personal derpspew site?


Evidently is just as hard as it is not to link to lib derpspew sites like HuffPo, Slate, and Mother Jones.
 
2014-02-06 01:04:36 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: From the derp comments:

"years back a lot of blacks did not qualify to get on the police dept. The government in all their glorious wisdom made them lower the standards so they could hire the one's who were not qualified. Wonder if this guy was one of them."

I was all like, "WTF?" and then came into this thread and found out it was a Glen Beck site. Then I was like "Ooohhh."


Ummm....you are showing either your stupidity or blind political bias.  Back in the 80s & 90s, there were multiple lawsuits against police and fire departments that alleged racial or gender bias because blacks and women did not pass either the initial entry exams or promotion exams in sufficient numbers to allow a "representative" proportion.  The result of the lawsuits were a "dumbing down" (or relaxing) of the standards to allow arguably less qualified individuals in to police/fire depts or into higher positions in those departments.  Don't believe me, google the stories of female firefighter recruits that sued because they weren't deemed qualified because they didn't have the physical strength to move a section of hose or raise up a ladder...or go no further back than 2010 with the lawsuit on NY promotions.   Unfortunately, when you relax legitimate, knowledge-based standards in order to achieve a certain racial mix, you can easily create the perception that the overall quality of all applicants is lower than it was before the change was made....no so much a problem with cops and firefighters....but start getting into professions like doctors or air traffic controllers and I personally would prefer the keep the professional standards high and not get my underwear in a bunch if the result is not representational to the population at large.
 
2014-02-06 02:48:22 PM  

damndirtyape: Isn't it a crime to interfere with an EMT or first responder during execution of their duties?


Cop, arrest thyself.
 
2014-02-06 02:58:04 PM  
Cops are people, and like people, they're a hit or miss sort of situation. Some will stop traffic to let some crippled person cross the road, help people out, and will generally use their power for good. Others will pull kids over in their own schools parking lot (going 19mph in a 15 zone) Camp at the bottom of steep hills to catch people "speeding" and can be generally assholes.

Cops are people, people are people, shiat happens and the world turns.
 
2014-02-06 03:00:21 PM  

untaken_name: fusillade762: Non-Blaze link

Another non-Blaze link

Yet another non-Blaze link

Is it so goddamn hard NOT to link to Glenn Beck's personal derpspew site?

But you'll throw out npr and gawker links? Hahahahahahaha.


It's so nice when the morons label themselves for us.
 
2014-02-06 06:19:55 PM  

mutterfark: murderguy: Drunken_Irish_Joker: Do the Maryland state troopers still go walk out into the middle of I495 and point at you to get you to pull over for speeding? That was some brass-balls and rock-brained kinda stuff they did back in the day. I always expected one to get run over sooner or later from someone not paying attention.

They stopped that a couple years ago, when a Howard County cop got killed doing the same thing on 32 near i95. Unfortunately was only a matter of time before it happened.

As for all the cop hate here: way to go, Fark. That's the sort of mature, intelligent response I have come to expect from this establishment.

When cops start obeying the law and policing their own, I'll respect them.  Until they're thugs that should be openly despised.

I understand where cop hate comes from, and I won't tell you how to feel about them. But whether or not they deserve respect, most of your interactions with them will be smoother if you at least treat them as if you respect them.

/you might even find that some of your preconceptions need adjusting. Or not, YMMV


There interactions with the public would go a lot better as if they acted like they had any respect for them.  Instead they treat them like they are inmates in a 3.79square mile prison.

Especially when you consider the fact that for most officers a citizen who is standing up for their rights (even respectfully) be declining a search or making a statement is disrespecting them.

A good anecdote does not offset a bad one.

It takes a special sort of stupid "obey my authorita" logic to mess with the very person who you will very likely need as a CHP should you get into a collision or other harm over something that petty.

Next up on fark:  Firefighters and paramedics reprimanded for taking 2 hours to respond to an "officer down" call because they valet parked 2 miles away and took a taxi.
 
2014-02-07 12:51:40 AM  
Inteferring with a fireman who is doing his job is bound to be illegal.

And cops wonder why nobody has any respect for them anymore.
 
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