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2014-02-06 12:55:06 PM  

James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.


It took like 80 posts last thread.
 
2014-02-06 01:03:52 PM  

Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.

More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.

Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.


Your "Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him." comment seems to imply that you do have an opinion.
 
2014-02-06 01:04:16 PM  

stonelotus: so how many of you would let Woody babysit your preteen daughter while you went out shopping for the afternoon?


Not me, but not because of the molesty aspect. It's because I don't trust a 78 year old New Yorker to give enough of a fark about kids to keep her out of the floor polish and knife drawer.
 
2014-02-06 01:05:51 PM  

Cletus C.: Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.


It's been investigated and dropped. What do you want the internet to do about it?
 
2014-02-06 01:15:00 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Abacus9: To be fair, he's been accused of this sort of thing before. Doesn't make him automatically guilty, but it's worth looking into. So why are you having such a kneejerk reaction?

He's been accused of the same crime -a single incident- over and over by one person for twenty years.

If you know anything about child molesters, you know that none of that fits the profile.

/I grew up during the "Satanic Sex Cult" hysteria in the 1980s, where families lost their kids over nothing but the words of a single DA, so I'm a little sensitive to this shiat.
//It scared me because even at the time I knew it wasn't real, but that took 25 years to prove.


Not to mention the quacks who managed to dig out "repressed" childhood memories from paitents under deep hypnosis.
 
2014-02-06 01:22:13 PM  

PiffMan420: Dwight_Yeast: Abacus9: To be fair, he's been accused of this sort of thing before. Doesn't make him automatically guilty, but it's worth looking into. So why are you having such a kneejerk reaction?

He's been accused of the same crime -a single incident- over and over by one person for twenty years.

If you know anything about child molesters, you know that none of that fits the profile.

/I grew up during the "Satanic Sex Cult" hysteria in the 1980s, where families lost their kids over nothing but the words of a single DA, so I'm a little sensitive to this shiat.
//It scared me because even at the time I knew it wasn't real, but that took 25 years to prove.

Not to mention the quacks who managed to dig out "repressed" childhood memories from paitents under deep hypnosis.


This is my favorite. 18 convictions. Five served the full sentence. 50 children removed from their families and placed in foster care. It was ultimately all overturned. Every. Single. Charge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wenatchee_child_abuse_prosecutions
 
2014-02-06 01:31:52 PM  

DrBenway: I get that Dylan is his big sister and it's good of him to support her. He grew up around her and with Mia as his mother, but beyond that, why does his opinion count for much regarding all of this?


He has a new TV show to promote.
 
2014-02-06 01:37:01 PM  

Kyosuke: DrBenway: I get that Dylan is his big sister and it's good of him to support her. He grew up around her and with Mia as his mother, but beyond that, why does his opinion count for much regarding all of this?

He has a new TV show to promote.


"Ol' Blue Eyes is Back"?
www.biography.com
encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com

Seriously?
orangeboot.ca

They barely look the same species.
 
2014-02-06 01:57:40 PM  

Kyosuke: DrBenway: I get that Dylan is his big sister and it's good of him to support her. He grew up around her and with Mia as his mother, but beyond that, why does his opinion count for much regarding all of this?

He has a new TV show to promote.


"Ronan the Accuser"?
 
2014-02-06 02:03:02 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Kyosuke: DrBenway: I get that Dylan is his big sister and it's good of him to support her. He grew up around her and with Mia as his mother, but beyond that, why does his opinion count for much regarding all of this?

He has a new TV show to promote.

"Ronan the Accuser"?


Ronan Farrow Daily
 
2014-02-06 02:06:16 PM  

James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.

More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.

Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.

Your "Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him." comment seems to imply that you do have an opinion.


True. Now go away and stop making me look bad.
 
2014-02-06 02:07:36 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Cletus C.: Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.

It's been investigated and dropped. What do you want the internet to do about it?


Stop saying O.J. killed his ex and some guy. That would be a start.
 
2014-02-06 02:09:13 PM  

Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.

More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.

Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.

Your "Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him." comment seems to imply that you do have an opinion.

True. Now go away and stop making me look bad.


Only you can stop yourself from looking bad.
 
2014-02-06 02:10:26 PM  
1.  Put all of the Woody Allen/Mia Farrow combatants on an ice floe in the Arctic and arm them with ball-peen hammers.

2.  Tell everyone that they have twenty-four hours to either kill each other or forgive.  Their choice.

3.  After twenty-four hours have passed, obliterate the ice floe with AGM-114 Hellfire missiles from a AH-64 Apache helicopter because I am totally fed up with the Allen/Farrow "He Said, She Said" bullshiat!
 
2014-02-06 02:12:40 PM  

Cletus C.: JohnBigBootay: Cletus C.: Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.

It's been investigated and dropped. What do you want the internet to do about it?

Stop saying O.J. killed his ex and some guy. That would be a start.


He was found liable in the civil suit.

So what you are saying is that Farrow's daughter should quit working through the press and actually file legal charges?
 
2014-02-06 02:22:16 PM  

Cletus C.: Stop saying O.J. killed his ex and some guy. That would be a start.


You are really devolving dude. Not only would you have failed my jr. high debate class I'm pretty sure the instructor would have punched you in the face. And he was extremely nice.
 
2014-02-06 02:23:49 PM  

James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.

More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.

Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.

Your "Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him." comment seems to imply that you do have an opinion.

True. Now go away and stop making me look bad.

Only you can stop yourself from looking bad.


That's not exactly going away.

So anyway, I find all the vigorous, strident and repeated defenses of Allen odd, to say the least. What we have is an adult woman who says he molested her as a child. She's saying that, so I don't care to hear shiat about Mia Farow, Frank Sinatra or whatever. It's her saying it.

Nobody knows for sure except Dylan and Woody. I don't know for sure but I do not immediately dismiss the alleged victim's statements. In doing so, I believe fark rules of order allow me to rub some shiat on the people who do think they know. Thank you for your time.
 
2014-02-06 02:26:12 PM  

JohnBigBootay: Cletus C.: Stop saying O.J. killed his ex and some guy. That would be a start.

You are really devolving dude. Not only would you have failed my jr. high debate class I'm pretty sure the instructor would have punched you in the face. And he was extremely nice.


You cut off a rather significant part of the discussion:

It's been investigated and dropped. What do you want the internet to do about it?

I'm guessing your debate instructor also would have had a problem with that.
 
2014-02-06 02:28:07 PM  
Good grief, why would anyone want to get naked with Woody Allen?  Am I the only person in the world who thinks he looks like an ugly evil jewish dwarf?

And he is just not funny.
 
2014-02-06 02:33:20 PM  

Cletus C.: JohnBigBootay: Cletus C.: Stop saying O.J. killed his ex and some guy. That would be a start.

You are really devolving dude. Not only would you have failed my jr. high debate class I'm pretty sure the instructor would have punched you in the face. And he was extremely nice.

You cut off a rather significant part of the discussion:

It's been investigated and dropped. What do you want the internet to do about it?

I'm guessing your debate instructor also would have had a problem with that.


He'd have given me a tick mark for stating a verifiable fact in support of my argument and then he'd have looked at you then called your parents to ask them why you weren't taking the class seriously after you said some shiat about oj simpson.
 
2014-02-06 02:33:24 PM  

Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.

More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.

Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.

Your "Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him." comment seems to imply that you do have an opinion.

True. Now go away and stop making me look bad.

Only you can stop yourself from looking bad.

That's not exactly going away.

So anyway, I find all the vigorous, strident and repeated defenses of Allen odd, to say the least. What we have is an adult woman who says he molested her as a child. She's saying that, so I don't care to hear shiat about Mia Farow, Frank Sinatra or whatever. It's her saying it.

Nobody knows for sure except Dylan and Woody. I don't know for sure but I do not immediately dismiss the alleged victim's statements. In doing so, I believe fark rules of order allow me to rub some shiat on the people who do think they know. Thank you for your time.


Sure, you can strip all context away and make it a "he said, she said" argument, but it's pretty silly to claim the high ground with that.
 
2014-02-06 02:46:20 PM  

Cletus C.: That's not exactly going away.

So anyway, I find all the vigorous, strident and repeated defenses of Allen odd, to say the least. What we have is an adult woman who says he molested her as a child. She's saying that, so I don't care to hear shiat about Mia Farow, Frank Sinatra or whatever. It's her saying it.

Nobody knows for sure except Dylan and Woody. I don't know for sure but I do not immediately dismiss the alleged victim's statements. In doing so, I believe fark rules of order allow me to rub some shiat on the people who do think they know. Thank you for your time.


I would say that Dylan likely doesn't know for sure. You've been presented with multiple other cases in this thread where children accused people of heinous crimes, and truly believed those things were done to them, which were later proven to be false.

I don't think she's a liar, but that doesn't mean what she says happened is actually what happened. Regardless of Mia, and Dylan likely wanting her mother's approval, at this point Dylan herself likely has a lot invested in it. To admit to herself that it didn't happen, would be to admit she put her father through a horrible ordeal for a lie, not to mention it would probably destroy whatever relationship she has with her mother, which is the one parent she has in her life. She has a lot of motive to continue believing it, and none to look at it critically. Memories are malleable things, and if she's been telling herself she was molested for 20 years, she probably honestly believes it. That does not in fact mean it happened... and in fact all the evidence points to it not having happened.
 
2014-02-06 03:05:57 PM  
Since this was mentioned by ObliqueAsymptote in the King thread and this thread is still going I'll drop it here too just cuz it's kinda blowing my mind.

After Andre left Dory Previn for Mia, in 1970 Dory released an album including one song about Mia called "Beware Of Young Girls."

She was my friend, my friend
My friend, she sent us little silver gifts
Oh yes, she did, oh, what a rare
And happy pair

She inevitably said as she glanced
At my unmade bed
She admired my unmade bed, my bed


On the same album was a song called "With My Daddy in the Attic."

With no
Window spying neighbours
And no
Husbands in the future
To intrude
Upon our attic
Past the stair
Where we'll live on
Peanut butter
Spread across assorted crackers
And he'll play
His clarinet

When I despair
With my
Daddy in the attic


I know, I know, faces on Mars and Jesus on toast but are you going to tell me Mia NEVER listened to that album?
 
2014-02-06 03:07:18 PM  

DamnYankees: James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?


Well, they are claiming that she had an affair with Polanski, so....
 
2014-02-06 03:21:08 PM  

brandied: Good grief, why would anyone want to get naked with Woody Allen?  Am I the only person in the world who thinks he looks like an ugly evil jewish dwarf?

And he is just not funny.


You only say that because you haven't seen him naked.
 
2014-02-06 03:25:00 PM  

DrBenway: nocturnal001: JFC, what a crazy family.

Either way they are (the parents) a couple of royal nutjobs worthy of scorn. Either Farrow is a crazy biatch who convinced her daughter that she was molested in order to get back and her asshole BF that decided to bang her/their daughter or Allen is a pedo molester that Farrow didn't notice was diddling her kid and stealing her other daughter.

[img2.timeinc.net image 600x450]

Hey kids, this is the first picture of me and your mommy. What? Oh that blonde lady in the picture was your mommy's adopted mother that I was banging at the time and that is where your uncle/brother that won't speak to me came from.

Class act all the way that Allen.

Interesting thing about that photo -- I haven't paid enough attention before now to catch that Ronan (then "Satchel") is the child -- what, only 2 years-old at most? -- being held at the left side of that photo. So how is he now credible as someone who knows what happened? I get that Dylan is his big sister and it's good of him to support her. He grew up around her and with Mia as his mother, but beyond that, why does his opinion count for much regarding all of this?


Um, I think mostly because he's so damn pretty.

/Keep talking Ronan dear
 
2014-02-06 03:44:02 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: Since this was mentioned by ObliqueAsymptote in the King thread and this thread is still going I'll drop it here too just cuz it's kinda blowing my mind.

After Andre left Dory Previn for Mia, in 1970 Dory released an album including one song about Mia called "Beware Of Young Girls."

She was my friend, my friend
My friend, she sent us little silver gifts
Oh yes, she did, oh, what a rare
And happy pair

She inevitably said as she glanced
At my unmade bed
She admired my unmade bed, my bed


On the same album was a song called "With My Daddy in the Attic."

With no
Window spying neighbours
And no
Husbands in the future
To intrude
Upon our attic
Past the stair
Where we'll live on
Peanut butter
Spread across assorted crackers
And he'll play
His clarinet
When I despair
With my
Daddy in the attic


I know, I know, faces on Mars and Jesus on toast but are you going to tell me Mia NEVER listened to that album?


Consciousness. One hell of a drug.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79168854/
 
2014-02-06 04:13:54 PM  
Did anyone read the Vanity Fair article? (*crickets*) It is a FACT that BEFORE the therapist reported (nope, Mia didn't start this) Dylan's allegations, Allen was already in therapy for "inappropriate behavior" toward her. (Among other things, he enjoyed sticking his thumb in her mouth and having her suck it. Not making this up.) He was attending that therapy WILLINGLY. It's a matter of record. I don't know about any of you, but I sure as hell wouldn't go to therapy for something like that, because I'm not a pedo, and I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was. (No shade to the pedos that DO seek help, however; good on you, keep it up.)

I'm amazed at how many people would rather believe in some elaborate, masterful brainwashing conspiracy whose effects lasted for DECADES than use their damned common sense and say, "Ya know, there is quite a bit of smoke here. Might well be some fire."
 
2014-02-06 04:21:22 PM  

abfab: Did anyone read the Vanity Fair article? (*crickets*) It is a FACT that BEFORE the therapist reported (nope, Mia didn't start this) Dylan's allegations, Allen was already in therapy for "inappropriate behavior" toward her. (Among other things, he enjoyed sticking his thumb in her mouth and having her suck it. Not making this up.) He was attending that therapy WILLINGLY. It's a matter of record. I don't know about any of you, but I sure as hell wouldn't go to therapy for something like that, because I'm not a pedo, and I wouldn't want anyone thinking I was. (No shade to the pedos that DO seek help, however; good on you, keep it up.)

I'm amazed at how many people would rather believe in some elaborate, masterful brainwashing conspiracy whose effects lasted for DECADES than use their damned common sense and say, "Ya know, there is quite a bit of smoke here. Might well be some fire."


According to a Vanity Fair writer who is friends with the family.  Here's what the psychiatrist hired by the Connecticut State Police said:

Dr. John M. Leventhal, who interviewed Dylan nine times, said that one reason he doubted her story was that she changed important points from one interview to another, like whether Mr. Allen touched her vagina. Another reason, he said, was that the child's accounts had "a rehearsed quality." At one point, he said she told him, "I like to cheat on my stories."

(Link)
 
2014-02-06 04:23:10 PM  

James!: FACT


Allen was in therapy? There's a shocker.
 
2014-02-06 04:24:34 PM  
Oh, that was meant to quote abfab, sorry James!
 
2014-02-06 04:30:36 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: James!: FACT

Allen was in therapy? There's a shocker.


No shiat. He's rather famously been in therapy his entire farking life.
 
2014-02-06 04:46:35 PM  

foo monkey: Abacus9: Dwight_Yeast: Abacus9: To be fair, he's been accused of this sort of thing before. Doesn't make him automatically guilty, but it's worth looking into. So why are you having such a kneejerk reaction?

He's been accused of the same crime -a single incident- over and over by one person for twenty years.

If you know anything about child molesters, you know that none of that fits the profile.

/I grew up during the "Satanic Sex Cult" hysteria in the 1980s, where families lost their kids over nothing but the words of a single DA, so I'm a little sensitive to this shiat.
//It scared me because even at the time I knew it wasn't real, but that took 25 years to prove.

Sorry, I remember those days too. I knew kids that weren't even allowed to listen to music, at least not real music.

As far as Woody goes, I only think they should look into it. That's all I said.

You know how I know you didn't read the article?


Wanna know how I don't give a fu€k, and only think it should be looked into? Some of us remember the early nineties.
 
2014-02-06 05:02:37 PM  

Abacus9: Wanna know how I don't give a fu€k, and only think it should be looked into? Some of us remember the early nineties.


You're acting as if it was looked into, at length, when the allegations were first made.
 
2014-02-06 05:03:54 PM  

miscreant: Abacus9: Wanna know how I don't give a fu€k, and only think it should be looked into? Some of us remember the early nineties.

You're acting as if it wasn't looked into, at length, when the allegations were first made.


FTFM
 
2014-02-06 05:17:16 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.


It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.
 
2014-02-06 05:46:27 PM  

Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.

It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.


It's curious to me how assholes see someone with an opinion different than their own and jump to conclusions about how they came by it.

Okay, not really curious at all. After all, they're assholes.
 
2014-02-06 05:54:02 PM  
So am I supposed to like Woody Allen or hate him?

like him for his older stuff when he was funny, disdain him now
 
2014-02-06 05:58:24 PM  

DrBenway: Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.

It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.

It's curious to me how assholes see someone with an opinion different than their own and jump to conclusions about how they came by it.

Okay, not really curious at all. After all, they're assholes.


You're the one demonizing a possible victim based on anecdotal and unrelated hearsay, whereas I've demonized no one. Trust me, you're the asshole here.
 
2014-02-06 06:04:59 PM  

Fano: A Terrible Human: And ladies and gentlemen this is why people are afraid of talking about how they were molested as children. The fear of being called a liar.

Yes, liars have that problem.


Wait who are you calling a liar?
 
2014-02-06 06:11:25 PM  

Abacus9: DrBenway: Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.

It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.

It's curious to me how assholes see someone with an opinion different than their own and jump to conclusions about how they came by it.

Okay, not really curious at all. After all, they're assholes.

You're the one demonizing a possible victim based on anecdotal and unrelated hearsay, whereas I've demonized no one. Trust me, you're the asshole here.


Brainstorming about a case made very public by the accuser is demonizing?
 
2014-02-06 06:12:50 PM  

Abacus9: You're the one demonizing a possible victim based on anecdotal and unrelated hearsay, whereas I've demonized no one. Trust me, you're the asshole here.


To be fair it seems to me that you are in fact demonizing someone based on tabloid coverage for an event the police and physicians have looked into and found the evidence lacking. Me, I think it's rich and famous people problems. Whatever happened it's beyond pointless to speculate any further. The cops are not going to arrest or even investigate a guy for something he has already been cleared of particularly when the supposed victims own siblings who were present in the house not only say it never happened, but that the mother for years made up all sorts of shiat that they know to be untrue. Even if the alleged crime actually occurred there is no prosecutor on earth who could get a conviction in the face of that so I'm not sure what people want to be done about it. There's no credible 'investigation' that could be done at this point and a whole lineup of people already on record that are happy to refute the charges. Like I said earlier, prosecutors want convictions and getting one on this case is simply not possible given what we know. Go ahead and keep trying the guy on the internet though. At this point she could completely recant and people would still say he did it.
 
2014-02-06 06:39:44 PM  
count_chimpula:
2001 Walter Issacson interview.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,160439,00.html


This makes me think he knew about Rowan being Frank's kid:

A. My relationship with Mia was simply a cordial one in the past four years, a dinner maybe once a week together. Our romantic relationship tapered off after the birth of Satchel, tapered off quickly.
 
2014-02-06 09:06:23 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: When they were together, Woody and Mia lived separate lives (both of them are clearly people with serious mental issues): instead of moving in together, they maintained separate apartments on opposite sides of Central Park. Crossing the park in Manhattan is both physically and culturally like crossing the DMZ, so it was an extremely odd thing to do, though I remember them bragging about it in a Rolling Stone interview in the early 1980s. Woody apparently too a taxi home every night.


How were two unmarried people who did not even live together able to adopt multiple children together as a couple?
 
2014-02-06 09:19:36 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: Abacus9: DrBenway: Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.

It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.

It's curious to me how assholes see someone with an opinion different than their own and jump to conclusions about how they came by it.

Okay, not really curious at all. After all, they're assholes.

You're the one demonizing a possible victim based on anecdotal and unrelated hearsay, whereas I've demonized no one. Trust me, you're the asshole here.

Brainstorming about a case made very public by the accuser is demonizing?


You were calling her a liar by your use of quotes. "Details".

JohnBB: all I'm saying is they should look into it. This stuff is highly underreported, rather than the other way around.
 
2014-02-06 09:42:52 PM  
There is no prosecution possible at this point. There will be no official investigation beyond what was done at the time:

Under the law in 1993, Farrow had until age 20 to file criminal charges against Allen. That legal limit covers her criminal claims - and so, now that she is 28, she is barred.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/law-child-sex-abuse-victims-articl e -1.1602057#ixzz2sbG3lgt3
 
2014-02-06 09:54:22 PM  

namegoeshere: There is no prosecution possible at this point. There will be no official investigation beyond what was done at the time:

Under the law in 1993, Farrow had until age 20 to file criminal charges against Allen. That legal limit covers her criminal claims - and so, now that she is 28, she is barred.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/law-child-sex-abuse-victims-articl e -1.1602057#ixzz2sbG3lgt3


That doesn't make sense. People don't file criminal charges. The state does.
 
2014-02-06 10:04:55 PM  

Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: Abacus9: DrBenway: Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.

It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.

It's curious to me how assholes see someone with an opinion different than their own and jump to conclusions about how they came by it.

Okay, not really curious at all. After all, they're assholes.

You're the one demonizing a possible victim based on anecdotal and unrelated hearsay, whereas I've demonized no one. Trust me, you're the asshole here.

Brainstorming about a case made very public by the accuser is demonizing?

You were calling her a liar by your use of quotes. "Details".

JohnBB: all I'm saying is they should look into it. This stuff is highly underreported, rather than the other way around.


I used quotes to indicate that was the word multiple sources had used.
 
2014-02-06 10:18:04 PM  

DamnYankees: James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?


No, sadly it's the opposite. Just like how women who were abused are more likely to hook up with physically abusive partners later in life. That's what makes this story so hard- given Mia's history you could see her being the kind of crazy who would hook up with a child molester, she's even done it before with Polanski. She clearly has a type. Older, famous, and with a predilection for young tail. You could also see a molester being attracted to her- both because she's spent so much of her life going after way older men and because she's so unstable no one would believe her. But then, she is so unstable you could also easily see her making something like this up, and traumatizing her own child by getting her to believe it. It's like a gordian knot of crazy.
 
2014-02-06 10:24:52 PM  

ObliqueAsymptote: Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: Abacus9: DrBenway: Abacus9: ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.

It's curious to me how assholes like to blame the accuser automatically.

It's curious to me how assholes see someone with an opinion different than their own and jump to conclusions about how they came by it.

Okay, not really curious at all. After all, they're assholes.

You're the one demonizing a possible victim based on anecdotal and unrelated hearsay, whereas I've demonized no one. Trust me, you're the asshole here.

Brainstorming about a case made very public by the accuser is demonizing?

You were calling her a liar by your use of quotes. "Details".

JohnBB: all I'm saying is they should look into it. This stuff is highly underreported, rather than the other way around.

I used quotes to indicate that was the word multiple sources had used.


No, that's just what you think you did, you lying demonizer. Abacus9, he knows what you did.
 
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