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2014-02-06 10:18:09 AM

Confabulat: Dwight_Yeast: 2) It was Polanski.  Everyone knew they were sleeping together, while Sharon Tate was pregnant.  It's what compounded the Mason thing in Hollywood's mind.

We should just blame this whole thing on the Beatles' White Album and move on.


I just watched a weird (badly-made but honest) doc on the Manson killings on Netflix, and almost everyone in Hollywood thought they had a connection to the killings.  Which is why LA is now full of small houses with very large gates.  We're a paranoid, vain and stupid people.

Manson, as a sociopath was boxing WAY above his class.
 
2014-02-06 10:26:27 AM
JFC, what a crazy family.

Either way they are (the parents) a couple of royal nutjobs worthy of scorn. Either Farrow is a crazy biatch who convinced her daughter that she was molested in order to get back and her asshole BF that decided to bang her/their daughter or Allen is a pedo molester that Farrow didn't notice was diddling her kid and stealing her other daughter.

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Hey kids, this is the first picture of me and your mommy. What? Oh that blonde lady in the picture was your mommy's adopted mother that I was banging at the time and that is where your uncle/brother that won't speak to me came from.

Class act all the way that Allen.
 
2014-02-06 10:40:26 AM
The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.
 
2014-02-06 10:45:27 AM

Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.


But I look like a teenaged Asian girl!
 
2014-02-06 10:45:38 AM

Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.


Maybe she was molested by Mia's brother.
 
2014-02-06 10:48:54 AM
I'm watching all this unfold, and I have to wonder where people think all this fighting is going.  Any chance at criminal trial is over.  There's no civil trial, and there's not going to be one.  There's the court of public opinion, but the information everyone has is the same that was out there in 1993.  People chose their sides a long time ago.  It's a polarizing thing, so it's going to be hard to move anyone to the other side of the fence.  The end result of the recent blow up is the same it's been for 20 years: Woody Allen remains a talented filmmaker that functions under a cloud.
 
2014-02-06 10:49:12 AM

James!: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Maybe she was molested by Mia's brother.


He wasn't into girls apparently.  Old John Farrow must have been a real piece of work.
 
2014-02-06 10:51:51 AM

Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.


Do you think people should assume every person accused of sexual assault is always guilty? Seems pretty unfair.
 
2014-02-06 10:53:12 AM

macadamnut: James!: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Maybe she was molested by Mia's brother.

He wasn't into girls apparently.  Old John Farrow must have been a real piece of work.


But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.
 
2014-02-06 10:55:01 AM

James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.


Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?
 
2014-02-06 10:55:22 AM

Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.


That "old white-knighting article" is what, a week and a half old?

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

So  then, what about you? How are things going between you and Dylan? Is she putting out for you yet? Does that strike you as somehow smart or clever of me to ask? No?
 
2014-02-06 10:55:46 AM

DamnYankees: James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?


Everybody's got a type.
 
2014-02-06 10:55:51 AM

James!: macadamnut: James!: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Maybe she was molested by Mia's brother.

He wasn't into girls apparently.  Old John Farrow must have been a real piece of work.

But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.


Well considering Mia Farrow married a 50 year old man when she was 19, and her brother just got convicted of molesting young boys, I'm having a hard time thinking I'd trust this woman's opinions on anything.

Woody Allen may be a nut, but he writes and directs a movie every year since like forever. He never speaks to the press, but I think at this point we sort of have an idea of his worldview.
 
2014-02-06 10:57:06 AM

James!: DamnYankees: James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?

Everybody's got a type.


Oh, and she also had an affair with Roman Polanski, right? ANOTHER child molester? What's going on?!?!
 
2014-02-06 10:57:43 AM

Confabulat: James!: macadamnut: James!: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Maybe she was molested by Mia's brother.

He wasn't into girls apparently.  Old John Farrow must have been a real piece of work.

But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Well considering Mia Farrow married a 50 year old man when she was 19, and her brother just got convicted of molesting young boys, I'm having a hard time thinking I'd trust this woman's opinions on anything.

Woody Allen may be a nut, but he writes and directs a movie every year since like forever. He never speaks to the press, but I think at this point we sort of have an idea of his worldview.


Roman Polanski drugged a sexually assaulted a 13 year old girl and Mia's still best buds with him.
 
2014-02-06 10:59:04 AM

James!: Roman Polanski drugged a sexually assaulted a 13 year old girl and Mia's still best buds with him.


Exactly. The woman isn't known for being exactly sane.
 
2014-02-06 10:59:08 AM

DamnYankees: James!: DamnYankees: James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?

Everybody's got a type.

Oh, and she also had an affair with Roman Polanski, right? ANOTHER child molester? What's going on?!?!


I'm just saying, were they child molesters before they met Mia? Or did Mia make them child molesters?
 
2014-02-06 11:08:06 AM

DamnYankees: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Do you think people should assume every person accused of sexual assault is always guilty? Seems pretty unfair.


No, I think you should go ahead and assume he is not because you like his movies and think Mia Farrow is a nutcase or something. Tell that woman she's wrong for the reasons cited above.
 
2014-02-06 11:10:53 AM

Cletus C.: No, I think you should go ahead and assume he is not because you like his movies and think Mia Farrow is a nutcase or something. Tell that woman she's wrong for the reasons cited above.


I assume he's not because I don't assume people are guilty of really heinous crimes without tremendous evidence. I'd be happy to tell Dylan Farrow that if she wanted me to, but I'd probably avoid doing that since I have no desire to upset this person who I don't know.
 
2014-02-06 11:30:05 AM
I suppose this could be discussed until the end of time but woody allen aside there's not a rich dude with a decent lawyer in the whole country who would be arraigned with the amount of doubt surrounding these claims. No matter who you believe the DA ain't stupid enough waste a bunch of time gunning for a guy when multiple family members say it never happened. They make arrests to get convictions and there is a zero chance of a conviction here.
 
2014-02-06 11:30:33 AM
It's so nice to hear Woody Allen step up and publicly set the record straight on this issue. Oh, wait a minute... he's not? He's hiding from the world like Michael Jackson and using an army of white knights to hurl insults at the victim and present quasi-legalistic arguments as to why 'no charges filed in lieu of visitation rights waived' = 'innocent as the day he was born'.

It's so good to see an elderly Jewish man react to child molestation accusations with the same finesse as the Catholic Church.
 
2014-02-06 11:32:11 AM

Darth Macho: It's so nice to hear Woody Allen step up and publicly set the record straight on this issue. Oh, wait a minute... he's not? He's hiding from the world like Michael Jackson and using an army of white knights to hurl insults at the victim and present quasi-legalistic arguments as to why 'no charges filed in lieu of visitation rights waived' = 'innocent as the day he was born'.

It's so good to see an elderly Jewish man react to child molestation accusations with the same finesse as the Catholic Church.


In the court of the internet not getting involved in a media circus is an admission of guilt.
 
2014-02-06 11:37:14 AM

DamnYankees: Cletus C.: No, I think you should go ahead and assume he is not because you like his movies and think Mia Farrow is a nutcase or something. Tell that woman she's wrong for the reasons cited above.

I assume he's not because I don't assume people are guilty of really heinous crimes without tremendous evidence. I'd be happy to tell Dylan Farrow that if she wanted me to, but I'd probably avoid doing that since I have no desire to upset this person who I don't know.


Bears repeating.  I don't care who either of the parties are, if the police are satisfied that no crime was committed..even in the face of this woman's unending accusations...then I'm satisfied that no crime was committed and we need to drop the subject.
 
2014-02-06 11:37:50 AM

Darth Macho: It's so nice to hear Woody Allen step up and publicly set the record straight on this issue. Oh, wait a minute... he's not? He's hiding from the world like Michael Jackson and using an army of white knights to hurl insults at the victim and present quasi-legalistic arguments as to why 'no charges filed in lieu of visitation rights waived' = 'innocent as the day he was born'.

It's so good to see an elderly Jewish man react to child molestation accusations with the same finesse as the Catholic Church.


Gosh, don't you look like a lazy idiot.

http://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/02/05/times-may-publish-r es ponse-from-woody-allen-on-dylan-farrows-accusations/?_php=true&_type=b logs&_r=0
 
2014-02-06 11:40:29 AM

nocturnal001: JFC, what a crazy family.

Either way they are (the parents) a couple of royal nutjobs worthy of scorn. Either Farrow is a crazy biatch who convinced her daughter that she was molested in order to get back and her asshole BF that decided to bang her/their daughter or Allen is a pedo molester that Farrow didn't notice was diddling her kid and stealing her other daughter.


THIS.

I will never fail to see Dylan Farrow as a victim, and I hate all the backlash she's getting for telling her story.   Even if she wasn't molested (and after reading her open letter, I believe she was...too many details.)  she very obviously BELIEVES she was.

Even if Dylan was "brainwashed" by crazy Mia, does that make Dylan any less of a victim?
 
2014-02-06 11:41:53 AM

CaitMonster: Even if Dylan was "brainwashed" by crazy Mia, does that make Dylan any less of a victim?


I'm not sure who you're addressing this to. No one is anti-Dylan Farrow.
 
2014-02-06 11:42:25 AM

Darth Macho: It's so nice to hear Woody Allen step up and publicly set the record straight on this issue. Oh, wait a minute... he's not? He's hiding from the world like Michael Jackson and using an army of white knights to hurl insults at the victim and present quasi-legalistic arguments as to why 'no charges filed in lieu of visitation rights waived' = 'innocent as the day he was born'.

It's so good to see an elderly Jewish man react to child molestation accusations with the same finesse as the Catholic Church.


He asked for the chance to respond in the New York Times. Poor hideout strategy.
 
2014-02-06 11:46:52 AM

Vantango84: Darth Macho: It's so nice to hear Woody Allen step up and publicly set the record straight on this issue. Oh, wait a minute... he's not? He's hiding from the world like Michael Jackson and using an army of white knights to hurl insults at the victim and present quasi-legalistic arguments as to why 'no charges filed in lieu of visitation rights waived' = 'innocent as the day he was born'.

It's so good to see an elderly Jewish man react to child molestation accusations with the same finesse as the Catholic Church.

He asked for the chance to respond in the New York Times. Poor hideout strategy.


He's also been saying he might respond since the Golden Globes. If his letter exists, publish it and get it over with. Otherwise he's still hiding behind white knights.
 
2014-02-06 11:47:24 AM
And ladies and gentlemen this is why people are afraid of talking about how they were molested as children. The fear of being called a liar.
 
2014-02-06 11:48:41 AM

A Terrible Human: And ladies and gentlemen this is why people are afraid of talking about how they were molested as children. The fear of being called a liar.


I understand that, but what's the alternative. To assume everyone accused of child molestation is guilty?
 
2014-02-06 11:50:41 AM
You know, that Daily Beast article may be from someone who is close to Woody Allen, but I'm surprised that people don't seem to be understanding that what it presents are facts in the case. Writing it off as biased would make sense if its defense of Allen was based all on gut feelings and such, but it's not. It's a defense based on the presentation of documented facts. So far I have yet to see one appeal from the opposite side offering anything even close to that.

macadamnut: He wasn't into girls apparently.


He was only caught with boys. It's my understanding that child molesters may have a preference, but it's really more about the convenience of the target. It's an interesting theory, but the multiple examinations showing no evidence of physical trauma that would be associated with that keeps me on the side that Mia tried to create a narrative to give herself the upper hand and she lost control of it in ways she never anticipated.
 
2014-02-06 11:52:04 AM

DamnYankees: A Terrible Human: And ladies and gentlemen this is why people are afraid of talking about how they were molested as children. The fear of being called a liar.

I understand that, but what's the alternative. To assume everyone accused of child molestation is guilty?


I've got the pitchforks if you'll bring the torches.
 
2014-02-06 11:52:52 AM

James Rieper: I'm watching all this unfold, and I have to wonder where people think all this fighting is going.  Any chance at criminal trial is over.  There's no civil trial, and there's not going to be one.  There's the court of public opinion, but the information everyone has is the same that was out there in 1993.  People chose their sides a long time ago.  It's a polarizing thing, so it's going to be hard to move anyone to the other side of the fence.  The end result of the recent blow up is the same it's been for 20 years: Woody Allen remains a talented filmmaker that functions under a cloud.


Maybe when enough people realize it was not Allen but Charles Joffe who received the Oscar for Best Picture for Annie Hall this "controversy" will die down.

Or after this year's Oscars.
 
2014-02-06 11:54:00 AM

Darth Macho: Vantango84: Darth Macho: It's so nice to hear Woody Allen step up and publicly set the record straight on this issue. Oh, wait a minute... he's not? He's hiding from the world like Michael Jackson and using an army of white knights to hurl insults at the victim and present quasi-legalistic arguments as to why 'no charges filed in lieu of visitation rights waived' = 'innocent as the day he was born'.

It's so good to see an elderly Jewish man react to child molestation accusations with the same finesse as the Catholic Church.

He asked for the chance to respond in the New York Times. Poor hideout strategy.

He's also been saying he might respond since the Golden Globes. If his letter exists, publish it and get it over with. Otherwise he's still hiding behind white knights.


2001 Walter Issacson interview.

http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,160439,00.html

Q. Did you molest your daughter?
A. I have not molested my daughter, nor would I ever.
Q. What did happen in the house?
A. It was a Wednesday two weeks ago. I came in the midafternoon for a visit. Allegedly, I took her in the attic, according to what the child-protection agency told me was the allegation, and did unspeakable things to her. But nothing at all happened. Nothing. In light-years I wouldn't go into an attic, I wouldn't even know how to find Mia's attic. I'm a famous claustrophobic. And I would not molest my daughter.
Q. Were you ever with her alone?
A. I may have been with her alone for a second, a moment or something, but I wasn't really alone with her. I am not going to, on the eve of hammering out a separation agreement, drive to Connecticut and in Mia's house, an open house, where there are two baby-sitters and people are always walking in and out, I'm not going to take her and molest her.
Q. Mia was there?
A. Of course she was there.
Q. There must have been some incident, some basis for this charge?
A. No, nothing. I was never in a private room with Dylan. I slept downstairs that night in the guest bedroom. The next morning when I was about to leave, the kids ran downstairs and were jumping all over me and playing with me. And Dylan gave me some brochure from a toy store and she had checked off some toys she wanted me to get for her. Everything was wonderful.
Q. Have you seen Dylan's videotape?
A. No. And don't you think that's strange, that Mia made a videotape?
Q. Was there any other evidence?
A. She brought the kid to the doctor, and there is no physical evidence of anything.
Q. Then why do you think Mia and Dylan made the allegation?
A. The atmosphere up there in Connecticut is so rife with rage against me. So it's possible this emerged from that. But it also could have been made up intentionally.
Q. Have you talked to Mia recently?
A. Yes, in fact she called me five times today ((Friday)).
Q. What do you say to each other?
A. She said, Can we stop this grotesque publicity circus? And I said, You have hired a lawyer, you're parading relatives and the kids on television, you leaked this videotape of Dylan unconscionably. She said, Can't we negotiate this? And I said, First you must clear my name unequivocally. And if you do that and we can agree to give Dylan some real therapy to get over the dreadful scars of this thing, and I am part supervisor of that therapy, then O.K., we can see if there's a way of toning things down.


Read more:  http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,160439,00.html#i x zz2sYsUpIsy
 
2014-02-06 11:54:28 AM

FirstNationalBastard: DamnYankees: A Terrible Human: And ladies and gentlemen this is why people are afraid of talking about how they were molested as children. The fear of being called a liar.

I understand that, but what's the alternative. To assume everyone accused of child molestation is guilty?

I've got the pitchforks if you'll bring the torches.


Just leave her alone if you don't believe her story. She doesn't deserve that.
 
2014-02-06 11:56:20 AM

Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.


Let's see... at this point, everyone who was in the household at the time, except for Mia, Dylan, and Ronan, think that Dylan is mistaken. It's hardly unknown for kids to make false accusations, and in this case, Mia had a very strong motive to ignore any chance that they were false.

He was never charged, has had to go through considerable scrutiny I imagine considering he adopted AFTER that, both the nanny and Mia's oldest child in the house say that Mia was a manipulative biatch who pressured them to lie. Woody took a lie detector test, Mia would not. Not to mention that Mia is a ardent supporter of Polanski, who was actually convicted of sexually abusing a child. And at this point, both Mia and Dylan have a lot invested in this being "the truth".

I don't like Woody Allen or his films, but I do have issues with how everyone is quite willing to ignore the complete lack of evidence in this case because they don't like the fact that Woody hooked up with Soon-Yi. Ignoring the fact that Mia's own marriage with Sinatra wasn't much different when you're talking about the ages of the people involved.
 
2014-02-06 12:02:44 PM

Cletus C.: DamnYankees: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Do you think people should assume every person accused of sexual assault is always guilty? Seems pretty unfair.

No, I think you should go ahead and assume he is not because you like his movies and think Mia Farrow is a nutcase or something. Tell that woman she's wrong for the reasons cited above.


The last Woody Allen I remember seeing was something like 14 yrs ago, and what I remember was getting up and walking out about an hour into it.  I can't even recall sitting through a Woody Allen movie in the interim.  I will admit to trying to find Take the Money and Run recently as I thought my son (13) would love it.

Cletus, I've posted this info to you at least 3 times now, have you even bothered to look up the Kern Country sexual abuse hoax/scandal from the 80's?   Do you know that several of the kids who testified as children still believe that they were the victims of satanic ritual abuse and now as adults in their mid/late 30's still refuse to have any contact with their parents?  All of this despite the fact that they've even had evidence presented to them that they were coached into lying? (The State Police/Defense Attorneys actually got the video tapes of the "therapy" sessions with the kids were a social worker convinced them of an alternative reality.)

I don't think anyone is questioning whether Dylan believes what she says, the question is what a child says always reliable.  Secondly, does the existence of some fairly significant evidence that Mia Farrow set this weekend up to basically do a frame job on Woody indicate that she could have coached young Dylan into believing something that wasn't true and that those memories are implanted there still?  (Just like they are for a number of the Kern County kids.)
 
2014-02-06 12:11:11 PM

DamnYankees: James!: But he is a convicted child molester.  If someone's claiming to have been molested you might look to the guy who actually was convicted of it rather than the guy mom's already mad at.

Yeah, to be honest when I read this it struck me a incredibly bizarre. What are the odds that this woman's brother is a child molester, and she just so happens to have had a long term relationship with another man she's accusing of child molestation? Isn't that unlikely?


I thought every family has a "funny uncle"
/"Go on...just walk it off!"
 
2014-02-06 12:15:55 PM
It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.
 
2014-02-06 12:16:10 PM

nocturnal001: JFC, what a crazy family.

Either way they are (the parents) a couple of royal nutjobs worthy of scorn. Either Farrow is a crazy biatch who convinced her daughter that she was molested in order to get back and her asshole BF that decided to bang her/their daughter or Allen is a pedo molester that Farrow didn't notice was diddling her kid and stealing her other daughter.

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Hey kids, this is the first picture of me and your mommy. What? Oh that blonde lady in the picture was your mommy's adopted mother that I was banging at the time and that is where your uncle/brother that won't speak to me came from.

Class act all the way that Allen.


Interesting thing about that photo -- I haven't paid enough attention before now to catch that Ronan (then "Satchel") is the child -- what, only 2 years-old at most? -- being held at the left side of that photo. So how is he now credible as someone who knows what happened? I get that Dylan is his big sister and it's good of him to support her. He grew up around her and with Mia as his mother, but beyond that, why does his opinion count for much regarding all of this?
 
2014-02-06 12:17:05 PM
Tobias Funk?
 
2014-02-06 12:20:35 PM

DamnYankees: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Do you think people should assume every person accused of sexual assault is always guilty? Seems pretty unfair.



i60.tinypic.com
 
2014-02-06 12:24:03 PM

lawboy87: Cletus C.: DamnYankees: Cletus C.: The Woody defender brigade needs to sit down with Dylan and tell her she was not molested. She clearly thinks she was but if provided a link to that old white-knighting article and having access to your gut feelings, she may decide he didn't actually do what she says he did.

Also, he's not going to diddle you, no matter how much you defend him. You're way too old.

Do you think people should assume every person accused of sexual assault is always guilty? Seems pretty unfair.

No, I think you should go ahead and assume he is not because you like his movies and think Mia Farrow is a nutcase or something. Tell that woman she's wrong for the reasons cited above.

The last Woody Allen I remember seeing was something like 14 yrs ago, and what I remember was getting up and walking out about an hour into it.  I can't even recall sitting through a Woody Allen movie in the interim.  I will admit to trying to find Take the Money and Run recently as I thought my son (13) would love it.

Cletus, I've posted this info to you at least 3 times now, have you even bothered to look up the Kern Country sexual abuse hoax/scandal from the 80's?   Do you know that several of the kids who testified as children still believe that they were the victims of satanic ritual abuse and now as adults in their mid/late 30's still refuse to have any contact with their parents?  All of this despite the fact that they've even had evidence presented to them that they were coached into lying? (The State Police/Defense Attorneys actually got the video tapes of the "therapy" sessions with the kids were a social worker convinced them of an alternative reality.)

I don't think anyone is questioning whether Dylan believes what she says, the question is what a child says always reliable.  Secondly, does the existence of some fairly significant evidence that Mia Farrow set this weekend up to basically do a frame job on Woody indicate that she could have coached young Dylan in ...


Clearly, you have a lingering problem with that Kern County case. Good for you, keep carrying that torch. There are other examples of mass hysteria and false accusations you could unearth.

Why you need to continue to hold up Mia Farrow's erratic behavior as proof of Woody's innocence is the most troubling aspect.

You need to focus only on Dylan Farrow and what she is saying right now. She says Woody Allen is a creep who made her childhood a nightmare. She's an adult, no longer under the spell of Mia Farrow, you would think. She is adamant. Dismiss her based on the Kern County witch hunt if you want. I just wonder why you're so passionate about the whole thing.
 
2014-02-06 12:29:26 PM

A Terrible Human: And ladies and gentlemen this is why people are afraid of talking about how they were molested as children. The fear of being called a liar.


Yes, liars have that problem.
 
2014-02-06 12:29:30 PM

Cletus C.: You need to focus only on Dylan Farrow and what she is saying right now. She says Woody Allen is a creep who made her childhood a nightmare. She's an adult, no longer under the spell of Mia Farrow, you would think. She is adamant. Dismiss her based on the Kern County witch hunt if you want. I just wonder why you're so passionate about the whole thing.


Why, you answered that yourself, Cletus. It's because he wants to sleep with Woody, right? Never mind his denials about being much of a fan, we both know what's really going on, don't we? All I can say is thank goodness for your own thoroughly dispassionate perspective.
 
2014-02-06 12:30:35 PM

ObliqueAsymptote: It's curious to me that those who say they believe Dylan explain it's because of all the "details" she includes.

Ever hung out with people who starts attending AA meetings? The details of their drinking patterns start mirroring the stories that they have been immersed into. Different meetings similar details.

Our brains and our memories are extraordinarily adaptable.


"The elaborations of a bad liar."
 
2014-02-06 12:30:51 PM
Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.
 
2014-02-06 12:34:51 PM

James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.


If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.
 
2014-02-06 12:39:05 PM

Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.


More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.
 
2014-02-06 12:53:12 PM

James!: Cletus C.: James!: Cletus is about to accuse you all of being child molesters.

If I did, all you'd need is an ex who is a certifiable loon and you're good.

More like an ex/commenter who is losing an argument/relationship throws out some wild accusations to get even.  Too bad you don't have a 7 and 4 year old to brainwash though.


Sorry, you lost me with that one. I don't know if Woody Allen molested that woman when she was a girl or not. I am not about to get all screamy one way or the other. But I am disturbed by all the brilliant legal minds here willing to tell her she's either a big farking liar or a brainwashed fool.
 
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