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(Chicago Sun-Times)   Employee at Whole Foods fired for calling off work because Chicago Public Schools called a snow day and she had to stay at home and take care of her special needs child. Shockingly, the uppity hipster outrage has yet to start   (suntimes.com) divider line 185
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2014-02-05 06:49:47 PM
Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand.
 
2014-02-05 06:55:22 PM
That seems pretty consistent for Whole Foods, seeing as how they have a union-busting Ayn Randite as their CEO.
 
2014-02-05 06:58:17 PM
"Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out
 
2014-02-05 07:06:04 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


Oopsie.

Those damn facts keep getting in the way of a good faux-outrage screechathon.
 
2014-02-05 07:11:54 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


THIS

/non story
 
2014-02-05 07:26:17 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


I assumed something along those lines. I mean, does her kid never get sick? There are so many reasons why a kid might unexpectedly to be babysat by the state, how could a single snow day bring her whole professional life crashing down around her?
 
2014-02-05 07:45:30 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


So say she had 4 missed days in 5 months, Chicago has two days of no school and she has to look after her son. Boom! Fired.

To say the public schools closing due to weather is not a city wide weather alert seems disingenuous no?
 
2014-02-05 07:46:53 PM

gopher321: Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out

THIS

/non story


Seconded. I'd also like to know why "special needs" is in quotation marks.
 
2014-02-05 07:53:57 PM
The city government was also shutdown and "weather disaster" is not a legal term as far as I can tell.

In DC most companies close if the fed does for fear their employees get injured sue and use the government closure to prove it was dangerous. Can't imagine why that wouldn't hold across the board
 
2014-02-05 08:07:19 PM
Whole Presumptuous Headline
 
2014-02-05 08:09:17 PM

Gecko Gingrich: read: this was not her fist time


Because if it had been her fist time, it would have most likely been excused.
 
2014-02-05 08:23:41 PM
The only good thing about Whole Foods is the employees. Corporate sucks, and the clientele by and large suck.
 
2014-02-05 08:26:16 PM

BunkyBrewman: Those damn facts


Point of order- those are not  facts, they are assertions about the company's policy, and they specifically did  not comment on this woman's situation.

It is entirely possible that she was terminated for violating that policy, but there are no facts here, just what people are asserting to be true. It's also possible she was not in violation of the policy (although less likely in my opinion).
 
2014-02-05 08:27:43 PM
No, this was the  fifth unexcused absence in 6 months, this doesn't count the other times she may have missed and was excused. Sounds like they actually have a very lenient attendance policy for retail. Most places don't give you that for a whole year. And, if she had a special needs child, why wasn't she on flma, which would have protected her?
 
2014-02-05 08:28:27 PM

fusillade762: . I'd also like to know why "special needs" is in quotation marks.



Probably a steady diet of lead paint chips early in life.

Unwelcome at every day care in town, due to his disruptive and violent nature.
 
2014-02-05 08:28:33 PM
Namaste, indeed...
/i, too, would like to know what 'special needs' means and whether the snow day callout was neccessary...
 
2014-02-05 08:29:07 PM

fusillade762: I'd also like to know why "special needs" is in quotation marks.


Because the author doesn't really believe that the child is retarded.
youshouldwriteaboutthat.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-05 08:29:54 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The only good thing about Whole Foods is the employees. Corporate sucks, and the clientele by and large suck.


What about the food? Is it any good? I heard it's better than Partial Foods.
 
2014-02-05 08:30:52 PM
Our entire town shut down yesterday. The only places that were open were The Asian Buffet (actually run by a very nice lady from Vietnam), McDonald's and Walmart.
 
2014-02-05 08:31:25 PM
FROM THE COMMENTS

Knox8 minutes ago
"...working single mothers need a little bit of leniency and understanding."

It's a uterus, not a "Get Out of Work" card.
 
2014-02-05 08:31:57 PM

Mark Ratner: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The only good thing about Whole Foods is the employees. Corporate sucks, and the clientele by and large suck.

What about the food? Is it any good? I heard it's better than Partial Foods.


It's good, but overpriced. Trader Joe's ftw
 
2014-02-05 08:32:57 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out



Our daughter's district canceled school three days last week for one winter storm.  That would be 60% of this woman's unexcused absences from work for ONE event (i.e., a storm that closed schools for multiple days).  In a week or so, there's President's Day, for which our daughter's school will be closed, but not our [the parents'] places of employment.  Fortunately, we have white-collar jobs with flexible schedules that allow us to work from home sometimes.

To me, the problem is that blue-collar jobs don't provide reasonable benefits to their employees, including a reasonable number of sick days and vacation days, not to mention health insurance and retirement benefits.
 
2014-02-05 08:34:17 PM

zedster: Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out

So say she had 4 missed days in 5 months, Chicago has two days of no school and she has to look after her son. Boom! Fired.

To say the public schools closing due to weather is not a city wide weather alert seems disingenuous no?


I feel for her because that's probably the case, but I'd really like to punch people who so abuse the system that the stupid "points" system needs to be invented in the first place.  I worked a long time ago at a federal contractor that did construction and IT work, and because the construction workers were such profoundly poor employees we all had to adhere to the point system even if we were salaried.  Those guys would call in sick from the goddamn bar,with the background noise going, at 10am when they were supposed to show up at 7.  We would go meet them for lunch.

It gave me a real appreciation for Hyattsville, MD, which at the time was probably the 3rd shiattiest part of the DC area.  I don't even know if it was legal to serve liquor before noon and I doubt the bar owners did, either.  It was just a sea of construction workers drinking at any given point during the day.  But come quitting time?  That's when you go home!  These guys would lie to their boss and their families just for an opportunity to get drunk during the day.
 
2014-02-05 08:34:44 PM

Cyclometh: BunkyBrewman: Those damn facts

Point of order- those are not  facts, they are assertions about the company's policy, and they specifically did  not comment on this woman's situation.

It is entirely possible that she was terminated for violating that policy, but there are no facts here, just what people are asserting to be true. It's also possible she was not in violation of the policy (although less likely in my opinion).


The question is, in my mind, why is this an unexcused absence if that was the case.  From the company's own statement of policy (relevant parts bolded):

...excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period.

Why is this counted as an unexcused absence?
 
2014-02-05 08:35:10 PM
FTFA: She added: "With me having a son, there should be a policy instilled where working single mothers need a little bit of leniency and understanding,


Fark you lady. You should get to call out more than other people because you chose to have a child? How about no.
 
2014-02-05 08:35:37 PM
Whole foods is for fat middle class wannabees. The cool kids shop at co-ops and local farmer's markets.
 
2014-02-05 08:35:40 PM
You do understand that this is nothing personal.
It is just business.

This is your stop.
 
2014-02-05 08:36:43 PM
Dont smoke a monkey.
 
2014-02-05 08:36:57 PM
So was there some sort of weather that only caused the special needs kids to stay home? If not, how is that relevant?

/was it raining potatoes?
 
2014-02-05 08:37:07 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


So much THIS

Farkin Charlie: No, this was the  fifth unexcused absence in 6 months, this doesn't count the other times she may have missed and was excused. Sounds like they actually have a very lenient attendance policy for retail. Most places don't give you that for a whole year. And, if she had a special needs child, why wasn't she on flma, which would have protected her?


Just calling your child SPECIAL NEEDS does not make it so.  She would need a medical provider to certify FMLA....so there's that
 
2014-02-05 08:38:12 PM

Mattyb710: FTFA: She added: "With me having a son, there should be a policy instilled where working single mothers need a little bit of leniency and understanding,


Fark you lady. You should get to call out more than other people because you chose to have a child? How about no.


Your world sucks.
 
2014-02-05 08:38:32 PM
Where's the kid's father?
 
2014-02-05 08:38:40 PM
No excuses for her special needs child who didn't have a place to go because schools were closed.

Real Capitalists don't give a flying fark about their serfs' crotch fruit.
No concessions to people with challenges in their lives, it just wouldn't be fair to the others.

/The Company doesn't love you. Never forget that.
 
2014-02-05 08:39:00 PM

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: Mark Ratner: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The only good thing about Whole Foods is the employees. Corporate sucks, and the clientele by and large suck.

What about the food? Is it any good? I heard it's better than Partial Foods.

It's good, but overpriced. Trader Joe's ftw


You're a smart man. Trader Joe's is awesome. (I've never been to Whole Foods, but heard it is expensive.)
 
2014-02-05 08:39:19 PM

Farkin Charlie: And, if she had a special needs child, why wasn't she on flma, which would have protected her?


Doesn't qualify.

http://www.dol.gov/whd/fmla/

/I swear, one day I'm going to move to a civilized Scandinavian country.
 
2014-02-05 08:40:15 PM

gar1013: Where's the kid's father?


Maybe he couldn't get off work?
 
2014-02-05 08:40:20 PM
We are hearing only one side of this story.  Something tells me that this was simply the straw that broke the camels back.  No one fires a person for missing one day's work.  The hiring process takes too much effort to just fire employees indiscriminately.  How often do you suppose she has called in because of her "special needs" child?  (Their quotes - not mine)
 
2014-02-05 08:40:27 PM

FizixJunkee: Our daughter's district canceled school three days last week for one winter storm.  That would be 60% of this woman's unexcused absences from work for ONE event (i.e., a storm that closed schools for multiple days).  In a week or so, there's President's Day, for which our daughter's school will be closed, but not our [the parents'] places of employment.  Fortunately, we have white-collar jobs with flexible schedules that allow us to work from home sometimes.

To me, the problem is that blue-collar jobs don't provide reasonable benefits to their employees, including a reasonable number of sick days and vacation days, not to mention health insurance and retirement benefits.


Read the policy again, city-wide weather disasters are supposed to  excusedabsences.
 
2014-02-05 08:40:48 PM

RyansPrivates: Cyclometh: BunkyBrewman: Those damn facts

Point of order- those are not  facts, they are assertions about the company's policy, and they specifically did  not comment on this woman's situation.

It is entirely possible that she was terminated for violating that policy, but there are no facts here, just what people are asserting to be true. It's also possible she was not in violation of the policy (although less likely in my opinion).

The question is, in my mind, why is this an unexcused absence if that was the case.  From the company's own statement of policy (relevant parts bolded):

...excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period.

Why is this counted as an unexcused absence?


"Unexcused absence" WTF.
What is this, high school?
Does she need a note from her mommy as well?
 
2014-02-05 08:41:01 PM
Subby sounds poor and stupid and jealous. But mostly stupid. And stupid. Did I mention stupid?
 
2014-02-05 08:41:01 PM

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


Yeah because she has a kid who needs to be taken care of and probably not one daycare that will.  I always imagine someone like you at 80 alone and just wishing someone cared enough to end your life because your to much of a coward to do it yourself.
 
2014-02-05 08:41:45 PM

RyansPrivates: Cyclometh: BunkyBrewman: Those damn facts

Point of order- those are not  facts, they are assertions about the company's policy, and they specifically did  not comment on this woman's situation.

It is entirely possible that she was terminated for violating that policy, but there are no facts here, just what people are asserting to be true. It's also possible she was not in violation of the policy (although less likely in my opinion).

The question is, in my mind, why is this an unexcused absence if that was the case.  From the company's own statement of policy (relevant parts bolded):

...excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period.

Why is this counted as an unexcused absence?


Because the state or the city didn't declare a state of emergency. Just because CPS calls a snow day doesn't mean it is a city wide weather disaster.

To tell you the truth, this sounds like she was somebody they wanted to get rid of for whatever reason, and her calling in put her to the point, per her employment contract with the company, that they could fire her.
 
2014-02-05 08:42:35 PM

RyansPrivates: Why is this counted as an unexcused absence?


Probably depends on what they call a "city wide weather disaster."

I don't know how they tend to define that. However, I DO know that Walmart, no matter how much it sucks in other ways (and damn if it doesn't), doesn't hold absences against you if school is canceled due to weather (they're mum on whether it is the district where the store is located or where you live, but probably means either). So some places do have policies to take care of employees in such circumstances.
 
2014-02-05 08:43:25 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: RyansPrivates: Cyclometh: BunkyBrewman: Those damn facts

Point of order- those are not  facts, they are assertions about the company's policy, and they specifically did  not comment on this woman's situation.

It is entirely possible that she was terminated for violating that policy, but there are no facts here, just what people are asserting to be true. It's also possible she was not in violation of the policy (although less likely in my opinion).

The question is, in my mind, why is this an unexcused absence if that was the case.  From the company's own statement of policy (relevant parts bolded):

...excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period.

Why is this counted as an unexcused absence?

"Unexcused absence" WTF.
What is this, high school?
Does she need a note from her mommy as well?


The policy from the company is stated upthread. That is the words they used, not mine here it is for your viewing pleasure:

Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

 
2014-02-05 08:43:57 PM

RyansPrivates: Read the policy again, city-wide weather disasters are supposed to  excusedabsences.



Here's how I fark:  I skip the articles, go directly to the comments, and do my best to infer the content and accuracy of the article from Farker comments.

Isn't that how everyone around here does it?
 
2014-02-05 08:45:18 PM

Mark Ratner: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The only good thing about Whole Foods is the employees. Corporate sucks, and the clientele by and large suck.

What about the food? Is it any good? I heard it's better than Partial Foods.


Well, the prices suck, so the food better be good.  Otherwise the store doesn't have anything going for it.
 
2014-02-05 08:45:43 PM

FizixJunkee: Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out


Our daughter's district canceled school three days last week for one winter storm.  That would be 60% of this woman's unexcused absences from work for ONE event (i.e., a storm that closed schools for multiple days).  In a week or so, there's President's Day, for which our daughter's school will be closed, but not our [the parents'] places of employment.  Fortunately, we have white-collar jobs with flexible schedules that allow us to work from home sometimes.

To me, the problem is that blue-collar jobs don't provide reasonable benefits to their employees, including a reasonable number of sick days and vacation days, not to mention health insurance and retirement benefits.


No... most places, one event can be up to 5 days without a doctor's note.
 
2014-02-05 08:48:24 PM

BunkyBrewman: Gecko Gingrich: "Everyone has personal reasons or unexpected events that occasionally cause us to be late or miss work; recognizing this, our attendance policy in the Midwest region of Whole Foods Market is designed to provide support for our team members when these things happen. This includes a combination of excused and unexcused absences to provide the most flexibility," Phelps said in a statement. "Excused absences include illness (with a note from a medical provider), death in the family, jury duty, catastrophic events or city-wide weather disasters. Each team member is allowed up to five unexcused absences or 'points,' in a six-month period. No singular attendance event would cause a team member to be separated, and excused absences are not included in the 'points' system. Team members approaching their limit of unexcused absences receive warnings and reminders, and those who exceed their limit are separated."

read: this was not her fist time...or second time...or third...fourth...well, let's just say she has a habit of calling out

Oopsie.

Those damn facts keep getting in the way of a good faux-outrage screechathon.


Umm, yeah.
I have a family member that kept their job at Whole Foods after landing in jail for heroin possession and missing 3 days work.

/true story.
 
2014-02-05 08:49:31 PM

Lsherm: Mark Ratner: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: The only good thing about Whole Foods is the employees. Corporate sucks, and the clientele by and large suck.

What about the food? Is it any good? I heard it's better than Partial Foods.

Well, the prices suck, so the food better be good.  Otherwise the store doesn't have anything going for it.


We have a whole foods here in Dallas.  The only reason I ever shop there is because they have a few beers on tap you can get in an actual glass and drink while you shop. Never spent more money than the times I do that. Cant tell you if it was the Belgian Ale loosening my wallet or the fact that it just cost so much more.  To be honest, I didn't care.
 
2014-02-05 08:54:53 PM
The free market will sort this out.

Americans: working the fewestdays off of the first world, and still fired over it.
 
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