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2014-02-05 03:57:54 PM  
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2014-02-05 04:05:48 PM  
"We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right.  Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers".  Or "lesbian lovers".  Or "gay lovers".  It's important, when speaking of one's relationship to a person of the same gender, to be absolutely clear that you weren't just "lovers", but "homosexual lovers".  You know, in case someone missed that fact.

Fark you, Enquirer.

And anyway, I'd hate to think Philip Seymour Hoffman would stoop so low as to fark someone so hipster-douche as David Bar Katz.
 
2014-02-05 04:17:54 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right.  Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers".  Or "lesbian lovers".  Or "gay lovers".  It's important, when speaking of one's relationship to a person of the same gender, to be absolutely clear that you weren't just "lovers", but "homosexual lovers".  You know, in case someone missed that fact.

Fark you, Enquirer.

And anyway, I'd hate to think Philip Seymour Hoffman would stoop so low as to fark someone so hipster-douche as David Bar Katz.


There is a fine line between method actor and hipster-douche.  Both share the trait of incessant
narcissism and fascination with their own perceived intellect.
 
2014-02-05 04:29:36 PM  
 
2014-02-05 05:20:45 PM  
Respected actor found dead. Hollywood goes into mourning. National Enquirer invents gay relationship. Fark greenlights this sensational story. Trollmitter laughs all the way into the top 10 with more Contact Music dreck
 
2014-02-05 05:27:53 PM  
However, we must stress this is straight from the National Enquirer - via Radar - so the chances of it being accurate, are, well, slim.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. They were right about John Travolta.
 
2014-02-05 05:30:41 PM  
Can I kiss you on the mouth? Please let me.
 
2014-02-05 05:30:45 PM  
It has been speculated that the collapse of the 12 year romance to costume designer Mimi O'Donnell fuelled his spiral back into drug addiction after more than 20 years sober. Friends of the actor have said that it was Hoffman's confusion over his sexuality that had caused the breakdown of his relationship with the mother of his three young children.

So it was the GAY that killed him!
 
2014-02-05 05:30:51 PM  

markfara: However, we must stress this is straight from the National Enquirer - via Radar - so the chances of it being accurate, are, well, slim.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. They were right about John Travolta.


And they were the first to report on John Edwards
 
2014-02-05 05:33:35 PM  

zarberg: markfara: However, we must stress this is straight from the National Enquirer - via Radar - so the chances of it being accurate, are, well, slim.

I wouldn't be too sure about that. They were right about John Travolta.

And they were the first to report on John Edwards


They're usually pretty accurate when they decide to out people too.
 
2014-02-05 05:34:20 PM  
I always assumed he was gay
 
2014-02-05 05:34:34 PM  
Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark]
2014-02-05 04:05:48 PM


"We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right. Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers". Or "lesbian lovers". Or "gay lovers".


RIght, they never use those terms.
thestupiditburns.jpg.
 
2014-02-05 05:37:36 PM  

Mangoose: Unknot your knickers:  http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/philip-seymour-hoffma n -gay-friend-legal-action-claim-article-1.1603049


When was the last time the Enquirer has successfully been sued for defamation though? This isn't the kind of thing they're known for making up out of thin air, doing so opens them up to too many suits.
 
ecl
2014-02-05 05:44:07 PM  
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.

Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
BAR KATZ WROTE THE PEST!!
KILL HIM!!!
 
2014-02-05 05:45:13 PM  
He was a tortured art-EEST type. Of course he was gay.
 
ecl
2014-02-05 05:46:02 PM  
Philip Seymour Hoffman killed himself to escape his friendship with "The Pest" screenwriter David Bar Katz.


That I believe.
 
ecl
2014-02-05 05:51:41 PM  

OnlyM3: Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark]
2014-02-05 04:05:48 PM


"We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right. Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers". Or "lesbian lovers". Or "gay lovers".

RIght, they never use those terms.
thestupiditburns.jpg.


Yea... you are pretty dumb.
 
2014-02-05 05:51:51 PM  

Benevolent Misanthrope: "We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right.  Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers".  Or "lesbian lovers".  Or "gay lovers".  It's important, when speaking of one's relationship to a person of the same gender, to be absolutely clear that you weren't just "lovers", but "homosexual lovers".  You know, in case someone missed that fact.

Fark you, Enquirer.

And anyway, I'd hate to think Philip Seymour Hoffman would stoop so low as to fark someone so hipster-douche as David Bar Katz.


Well, it does seem worth mentioning, as Katz is married to a woman, and PSH had a longtime (female) partner.  I always got the sense. that PSH's sexuality was not entirely clear-cut, and in our society, that can do a lot of damage to a person (see Morrissey or Bret Easton Ellis).


The real interesting part of the story is Katz's dad, who's something of a local celebrity around here, for reasons I can't remember.  His big claim to fame is that he once came home and found a woman (he claimed not to know) dead in his hot tub.
 
2014-02-05 05:56:15 PM  
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Hoffman could of done much better.
 
2014-02-05 05:56:29 PM  
They're just taking a break from "Obama is getting a divorce" line of stories they've been running.
 
2014-02-05 06:09:44 PM  

gingerjet: [assets.nydailynews.com image 635x462]

Hoffman could of done much better.


media.culturemap.com
 
2014-02-05 06:26:58 PM  
David Bar Katz?

Dr. Katz had a kid with Simon Bar Sinister?
 
2014-02-05 06:41:19 PM  
Respected?  A Hollywood extra who OD'd on horse?  No.
 
2014-02-05 06:48:49 PM  
He wasn't gay?
 
2014-02-05 07:00:02 PM  

MylesHeartVodak: Respected?  A Hollywood extra who OD'd on horse?  No.


Still not getting the whole "I'm pretending I've never heard of him so he must be nobody" troll.

The man won an Oscar.  He was in BOTH Lebobswi and Boogie Nights.  Even if you're a braindead frat boy, you've seen at least six films with him in them, and he was damn good in all of them.

If nothing else, he was the Chris Walken of his generation, and that's not nothing.
 
2014-02-05 07:06:46 PM  

OnlyM3: Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark]
2014-02-05 04:05:48 PM


"We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right. Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers". Or "lesbian lovers". Or "gay lovers".

RIght, they never use those terms.
thestupiditburns.jpg.


The only time I ever hear the term "homosexual lover" thrown around is from the religious right and I live in the gayest city in the country.
 
2014-02-05 07:12:20 PM  

CanuckInCA: OnlyM3: Benevolent Misanthrope [TotalFark]
2014-02-05 04:05:48 PM


"We were homosexual lovers. We had a relationship," apparently revealed Katz to US magazine the National Enquirer

Right. Because when I speak of, or hear other gay folk speak of, their relationships, we start with, "We were homosexual lovers". Or "lesbian lovers". Or "gay lovers".

RIght, they never use those terms.
thestupiditburns.jpg.

The only time I ever hear the term "homosexual lover" thrown around is from the religious right and I live in the gayest city in the country.


The gayest city in the country this year is DC and last year it was Tacoma.
 
2014-02-05 07:16:28 PM  
Maybe it was just research for Capote.
 
2014-02-05 07:20:24 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: MylesHeartVodak: Respected?  A Hollywood extra who OD'd on horse?  No.

Still not getting the whole "I'm pretending I've never heard of him so he must be nobody" troll.

The man won an Oscar.  He was in BOTH Lebobswi and Boogie Nights.  Even if you're a braindead frat boy, you've seen at least six films with him in them, and he was damn good in all of them.

If nothing else, he was the Chris Walken of his generation, and that's not nothing.


Jealousy. Damn druggy was more loved than he will ever be.
 
2014-02-05 07:41:50 PM  
Was he breaking off a piece of that David Katz Bar?
 
2014-02-05 07:46:31 PM  

Loucifer: Was he breaking off a piece of that David Katz Bar?


that was funnier to me than it should have been.
 
2014-02-05 07:46:57 PM  
Taliban.
 
2014-02-05 08:07:04 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: If nothing else, he was the Chris Walken of his generation, and that's not nothing.


Pretty sure Chris Walken is the Chris Walken of his generation.
 
2014-02-05 08:19:25 PM  

Uncle Pooky: Loucifer: Was he breaking off a piece of that David Katz Bar?

that was funnier to me than it should have been.


Now I can't get that jingle out of my head.
 
2014-02-05 08:25:28 PM  

rynthetyn: Mangoose: Unknot your knickers:  http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/philip-seymour-hoffma n -gay-friend-legal-action-claim-article-1.1603049

When was the last time the Enquirer has successfully been sued for defamation though? This isn't the kind of thing they're known for making up out of thin air, doing so opens them up to too many suits.


There was a time when The National Enquirer had a credibility problem, but that was like three decades ago, after losing a string of defamation lawsuits.

If this is a made up story, I have to admit I'd be surprised. The "source" claims he gave no interview, but I wonder if there is a recording somewhere to back it up.
 
2014-02-05 08:55:04 PM  
Gay sex isn't normal, but on heroin it is.
 
2014-02-05 08:55:28 PM  

LesserEvil: rynthetyn: Mangoose: Unknot your knickers:  http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/philip-seymour-hoffma n -gay-friend-legal-action-claim-article-1.1603049

When was the last time the Enquirer has successfully been sued for defamation though? This isn't the kind of thing they're known for making up out of thin air, doing so opens them up to too many suits.

There was a time when The National Enquirer had a credibility problem, but that was like three decades ago, after losing a string of defamation lawsuits.

If this is a made up story, I have to admit I'd be surprised. The "source" claims he gave no interview, but I wonder if there is a recording somewhere to back it up.


I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever. I think dude just realized that he outed himself and destroyed his marriage in the slimiest possible way and decided the best course of action would be to just claim he never said any of it.
 
2014-02-05 09:00:45 PM  

rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever.


Perhaps you missed the part that this 'story' ran in the National Enquirer.
 
2014-02-05 09:03:24 PM  

gingerjet: rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever.

Perhaps you missed the part that this 'story' ran in the National Enquirer.


Perhaps you missed the fact that the National Enquirer has been pretty darn accurate the last few years.
 
2014-02-05 09:05:57 PM  

gingerjet: rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever.

Perhaps you missed the part that this 'story' ran in the National Enquirer.


You missed that part, I guess. National Enquirer != Globe.

The Enquirer had to straighten out there act after a bunch of lawsuits in the 80s almost put them out of business. Since then, they've been very careful about having proof to back up their claims in print.

If they published the story, they have something to back it up.

rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever. I think dude just realized that he outed himself and destroyed his marriage in the slimiest possible way and decided the best course of action would be to just claim he never said any of it.


I'd guess the guy poured out his story to a reporter at a local gay bar, as he drowned his sorrows over the whole thing, not realizing the guy had a tape recorder on, or forgetting it altogether (due to drinking or drugs).
 
2014-02-05 09:07:25 PM  

LesserEvil: The Enquirer had to straighten out their act


FTFM. Doh.
 
2014-02-05 09:22:05 PM  

rynthetyn: gingerjet: rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever.

Perhaps you missed the part that this 'story' ran in the National Enquirer.

Perhaps you missed the fact that the National Enquirer has been pretty darn accurate the last few years.


The guy gave an interview and has at least one picture of him and PSH together, but if you do a GIS, for David Bar Katzz, you'll see he (and his dad) are attention whores who like having their photo taken with famous people.

This isn't even on par with Michael Stipe posting nude photos on Grindr.

Disgruntled Goat: Dwight_Yeast: If nothing else, he was the Chris Walken of his generation, and that's not nothing.

Pretty sure Chris Walken is the Chris Walken of his generation.


Walken is 71, Hoffman was 46.  That's at least a generation, between them.  Not sure your point.
 
2014-02-05 09:24:24 PM  

PiffMan420: Can I kiss you on the mouth? Please let me.


Nice.
 
2014-02-05 09:53:47 PM  

ecl: Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
Bar Katz wrote The Pest.
BAR KATZ WROTE THE PEST!!
KILL HIM!!!


What's wrong with The Peat. It's a live action Bugs Bunny movie.
 
2014-02-05 10:41:01 PM  

LesserEvil: gingerjet: rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever.

Perhaps you missed the part that this 'story' ran in the National Enquirer.

You missed that part, I guess. National Enquirer != Globe.

The Enquirer had to straighten out there act after a bunch of lawsuits in the 80s almost put them out of business. Since then, they've been very careful about having proof to back up their claims in print.

If they published the story, they have something to back it up.

rynthetyn: I can't imagine they ran it without any sort of evidence to back up their story whatsoever. I think dude just realized that he outed himself and destroyed his marriage in the slimiest possible way and decided the best course of action would be to just claim he never said any of it.

I'd guess the guy poured out his story to a reporter at a local gay bar, as he drowned his sorrows over the whole thing, not realizing the guy had a tape recorder on, or forgetting it altogether (due to drinking or drugs).


What color is the sky in your world? Here, let me google that for you. Look at all of that. If you think that they actually have anything resembling solid evidence outside of conjecture and blurry or doctored photos, you probably shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
2014-02-05 10:42:15 PM  
So if I understand, a junkie id's and his BFF comes out so he can get a claim on the estate?
 
2014-02-05 11:07:13 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: Disgruntled Goat: Dwight_Yeast: If nothing else, he was the Chris Walken of his generation, and that's not nothing.

Pretty sure Chris Walken is the Chris Walken of his generation.

Walken is 71, Hoffman was 46. That's at least a generation, between them. Not sure your point.


There is no generation break between them. Both (up until a few days ago) were making movies for a very similar audience at the same time. It isn't like Walken retired and Hoffman stepped up to fill the void for a new generation.

The "of his generation" analogy is not valid.
 
2014-02-05 11:21:21 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: There is no generation break between them. Both (up until a few days ago) were making movies for a very similar audience at the same time. It isn't like Walken retired and Hoffman stepped up to fill the void for a new generation.

The "of his generation" analogy is not valid.


I could argue that they were definietly of very different generations in the film world, Walken having come up with de Niro, Keitel, Hackman, etc. and PSH in the 1990s with John C Reilley, Brat Pitt, Mark Wahlberg, but honestly: hairs, you are splitting them.

Also not sure it's actually an analogy.
 
2014-02-05 11:39:08 PM  

Dwight_Yeast: The man won an Oscar. He was in BOTH Lebobswi and Boogie Nights. Even if you're a braindead frat boy, you've seen at least six films with him in them, and he was damn good in all of them.


don't make broad generalizations like that.  i'm not quoting the part about trolling, because i know there ARE people who troll like that.  however, despite being quite familiar with the guy, going by his imdb filmography, the only film i've ever seen him in was talented mr. ripley, which i saw once when it was first in theaters... which is odd, since that also means i can't really place where else i'd have seen him... magazine/internet articles or promotional stuff for other movies, i guess...

point being it's really unfair to assume that just because a movie is popular, everyone's seen it...
/i'm with you on the "don't pretend like you've never heard of the guy" sentiment though.   it falls into the same category with the RIP thing and the "whatever a bieber is" thing...
 
2014-02-06 12:02:11 AM  

cynicalminion: point being it's really unfair to assume that just because a movie is popular, everyone's seen it...


My point was more that this is Fark, and if someone claims they've never seen either Big Lebowski or Boogie Nights, either A) you're lying or B) you honestly don't like films that much (and that's fine, but you should avoid film threads).  Lebowski especially is definitely a right of passage of sorts around here.

/And everyone should do themselves a favor and watch "Before the Devil Knows You're Dead" it's one of the best heist movies made in years, and everyone in it is amazing.
 
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