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2014-02-05 04:56:47 PM  
Really, why is the X-Box so prominent in this story? He could have just as easily viewed the porn on a smart phone or tablet.
 
m00
2014-02-05 04:57:05 PM  
Why are video games still legal???
 
2014-02-05 04:58:40 PM  

James10952001: BigNumber12: James10952001: Why is there no edit feature?

So that people can never go back and conceal the derp that they trotted out on some subject or other. We hold people accountable.

When you edit a comment on Facebook, it's still possible to go back and see the original text. I hate Facebook but this is one thing they did right.


In other words:

durbnpoisn.comli.com
 
2014-02-05 05:00:00 PM  

JesusJuice: The little freak should be euthanized.  Nothing good can come of letting it grow into an adult.


gifrific.com
 
2014-02-05 05:00:04 PM  

James10952001: I watched porn with my friends whenever we could get it when I was that age. Never had any desire to tape anyone, especially a sibling, ewww.

Anyone else remember when you could use a matchbook to wedge the knob on those analog cable boxes between channels and get playboy to come in?


t1.gstatic.com
Good memories
 
2014-02-05 05:00:15 PM  
Achievement Unlocked: All in the Family
 
2014-02-05 05:00:45 PM  

m00: Why are video games still legal???


Why are humans still legal?
 
m00
2014-02-05 05:05:23 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: m00: Why are video games still legal???

Why are humans still legal?


Give it 5 years
 
2014-02-05 05:08:21 PM  
From TFA
The member of parliament for the area where the assault occurred called the case "breathtakingly horrible" and called on Internet service providers to "recognise that they have greater responsibilities for controlling access to porn."

Or you could call on parents to not raise amoral little shiats who think it's OK to rape their younger siblings. There's that. Can we try that?
 
gja
2014-02-05 05:10:05 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: [creamcityradio.com image 504x342]


Good God. I really need to fave you for some of your choices.
 
2014-02-05 05:11:45 PM  
I would bet there are tens of thousands of 13 year old boys that have watched porn and didn't rape anyone, let alone their sister.

I'm pretty sure this boy is just farked in the head. No pun intended.
 
2014-02-05 05:14:27 PM  

BigNumber12: James10952001: Why is there no edit feature?

So that people can never go back and conceal the derp that they trotted out on some subject or other. We hold people accountable.


Or you know, have time limit on editing.
 
2014-02-05 05:15:54 PM  

reillan: He said it was because she "couldn't remember stuff."  I somehow doubt either porn or xbone taught him that.


Daddy more than likely did...
 
2014-02-05 05:18:07 PM  
i670.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-05 05:18:23 PM  

James10952001: I watched porn with my friends whenever we could get it when I was that age. Never had any desire to tape anyone, especially a sibling, ewww.

Anyone else remember when you could use a matchbook to wedge the knob on those analog cable boxes between channels and get playboy to come in?


Didn't have that, but a friend's stepdad had a satellite dish (the 10ft diameter one) and all we had to do was force the on screen display to stay on and we'd get any premium channel, HBO, porn, etcetera for free.

We were all between 11 and 14 and none of us did anything like that. Granted we also had parents that taught us things like values and behaving decently. Wanting to see naked people is part of puberty, raping your younger sibling after warching porn isn't.

/NTTAWWT
//I was joking.
///OK. I'll go sit over there.
 
2014-02-05 05:19:48 PM  

factoryconnection: miss diminutive: Well-adjusted, empathetic and reasonable 13 year olds don't rape their siblings just because they viewed some pornography. At 13 they know enough to understand how these actions are wrong and can impact another person.

I suspect there's more to the story here.

My wife used to work with underaged sex offenders.  Almost every single one was a victim of sexual abuse themselves, exposed to pornography and sex from a young age, often by relatives or close family friends.  Stories that were extremely difficult to listen to.

And then there was, every once in a while, the genuine sociopath with good parents that just had absolutely no empathy and no compunction in getting whatever he wanted.

So there is most likely a pedophile at the end of this story, too.


I tried getting my wife's aunt to understand that when we discussed her 10 yro son's sexual obsession, and how he should tell his psychiatrist about all he was up to.  She kept tight control on what he discussed in sessions and anything sexual wasn't permitted.  After they moved out, his behavior got so crazy worse, he is a ward of the state right now.  By 13, he was into sick perverted stuff that most adults find too disgusting, and would get him on FARK.  I know he didn't get any of those ideas in my house, I don't believe his mom led him to any of those things, however his father may have introduced him to it in one way or another.

I'm not looking forward to him getting out.
 
2014-02-05 05:25:08 PM  
Don't link to this clickbait shiat.  There may be real journalists discussing the story, but you won't find them on the gawker media network.
 
2014-02-05 05:27:51 PM  
The problem I have in times like these it that a lot of folks seem to react to media scare-mongering by getting overly defensive-

Yeah, clearly a kid's parents should be monitoring their children's activities.  I don't see anyone saying otherwise, but does that mean that we absolutely cannot have a talk about the effect that pornography and violent video games can have on a person (particularly a young person with a developing brain)?

Apparently not, since apparently everyone who, surprise surprise, also played violent video games and looked and porn at a young age, needs to convince themselves as much as anyone that they turned out A-OK.

Hence it is disturbing when the reaction on sites like Reddit and Fark to a media story of something like "violent video games: maybe they're not the best?" results in mass hysteria about how the government is going to take their precious porn/FPS games away (which will never happen, btw)

Forgive me if none of this applies to this particular thread, I didn't bother to read it ; )
 
2014-02-05 05:28:52 PM  

lack of warmth: factoryconnection: miss diminutive: Well-adjusted, empathetic and reasonable 13 year olds don't rape their siblings just because they viewed some pornography. At 13 they know enough to understand how these actions are wrong and can impact another person.

I suspect there's more to the story here.

My wife used to work with underaged sex offenders.  Almost every single one was a victim of sexual abuse themselves, exposed to pornography and sex from a young age, often by relatives or close family friends.  Stories that were extremely difficult to listen to.

And then there was, every once in a while, the genuine sociopath with good parents that just had absolutely no empathy and no compunction in getting whatever he wanted.

So there is most likely a pedophile at the end of this story, too.

I tried getting my wife's aunt to understand that when we discussed her 10 yro son's sexual obsession, and how he should tell his psychiatrist about all he was up to.  She kept tight control on what he discussed in sessions and anything sexual wasn't permitted.  After they moved out, his behavior got so crazy worse, he is a ward of the state right now.  By 13, he was into sick perverted stuff that most adults find too disgusting, and would get him on FARK.  I know he didn't get any of those ideas in my house, I don't believe his mom led him to any of those things, however his father may have introduced him to it in one way or another.

I'm not looking forward to him getting out.


I don't think you can get someone into the really farked up stuff. Either they're wired that way or not. I've had enough friends send me the most farked up "porn" they could find, or set it as my wallpaper or alter my bookmarks and home page as a joke. Never made me want to fark a goat or an old fat guy or anything else like that.
 
2014-02-05 05:29:27 PM  

randomX: That's my brother, hurray.


Mine too.   : (
 
2014-02-05 05:30:41 PM  

harleyquinnical: randomX: factoryconnection: And then there was, every once in a while, the genuine sociopath with good parents that just had absolutely no empathy and no compunction in getting whatever he wanted.


*sigh* Is it wrong that THAT is the release I needed to hear? That's my brother, hurray.

Sadly, this is a close fit to my brother too.  Sociopathic, complete lack of empathy, physically abused me...


Same here.  I don't speak to my family because of the things they let my older brother get away with.  (I was never sexually abused, Thank FSM, but I took beatings from him.)  When I pleaded with my father to do something about it at the age of 16, he said, "Well, what do you expect me to do--he's bigger than me!"

/Thanks, Dad
 
2014-02-05 05:31:15 PM  
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2014-02-05 05:32:34 PM  

FraggleStickCar: The problem I have in times like these it that a lot of folks seem to react to media scare-mongering by getting overly defensive-

Yeah, clearly a kid's parents should be monitoring their children's activities.  I don't see anyone saying otherwise, but does that mean that we absolutely cannot have a talk about the effect that pornography and violent video games can have on a person (particularly a young person with a developing brain)?

Apparently not, since apparently everyone who, surprise surprise, also played violent video games and looked and porn at a young age, needs to convince themselves as much as anyone that they turned out A-OK.

Hence it is disturbing when the reaction on sites like Reddit and Fark to a media story of something like "violent video games: maybe they're not the best?" results in mass hysteria about how the government is going to take their precious porn/FPS games away (which will never happen, btw)

Forgive me if none of this applies to this particular thread, I didn't bother to read it ; )


It's one thing if only a small number of kids were exposed to that stuff and many showed negative effects, but so many adolescent males have seen porn that I'd dare say some exposure to it is a normal part of growing up and natural sexual curiosity during puberty. If looking at porn turned kids into rapists, we'd be surrounded by rapists everywhere.
 
2014-02-05 05:32:48 PM  

factoryconnection: Are you saying your brother is a sociopath? Good lord that must be a burden on your heart, because even the ones that aren't raping or murdering or whatever are fleecing and cheating people in all sorts of ways.That's tough to be around and have in your life however directly or tangentially.


This wasn't directed to me, but yeah--it is rough.  Damn near killed my parents when he finally got caught.

/ex-cop kidnapping and raping little girls at gunpoint is what he finally got caught at.  Nice guy, huh?
 
2014-02-05 05:33:04 PM  
If only there was a way for parents to block that built-in browser. It's just too bad Microsoft didn't think to include any sort of controls like that for parents.
 
2014-02-05 05:37:45 PM  
`Playing Devil's Advocate here...

Was what happened actual rape, as in, penetration of some sort? Or was it two young kids playing doctor? TFA is vague on this point.

Kids DO touch each other. They do experiment with their body parts with each other. There's a difference between normal childhood sexual experimentation, and rape.

Now, granted, this 13-year-old should be past the point of playing doctor, but some boys do mature more slowly and it's possible he was still mentally at that "your body is different from my body" mode.

I just think we're too quick to call anything vaguely sexual "rape" these days. If it was just "you touch mine and I'll touch yours" that's a lot different than "lay down and let me put this in you."

Again; Just asking a question. Not defending the little freak.
 
2014-02-05 05:38:17 PM  

jso2897: LoneVVolf: [filmdump.files.wordpress.com image 850x459]

/Thanksgiving is going to be awkward in that house for a few years...

Thanksgiving in Britain is always an awkward occasion.


hahahahahahahaha
 
2014-02-05 05:39:01 PM  

jso2897: A detective told the court that "this is one of those tragic sexual experimentation cases."

WTF??? SEXUAL EXPERIMENTATION??  O_o

Dudes - what's going on over there?


That's the line that made me ask the previous question, actually.
 
2014-02-05 05:43:13 PM  
Let he who has never raped their sister after watching porn, cast the first.....
i.dailymail.co.uk
AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
 
2014-02-05 05:43:38 PM  

miss diminutive: Well-adjusted, empathetic and reasonable 13 year olds don't rape their siblings just because they viewed some pornography. At 13 they know enough to understand how these actions are wrong and can impact another person.

I suspect there's more to the story here.


This. I too watched Skinamax back in the day and I too raped no one.
 
2014-02-05 05:43:40 PM  

JesusJuice: The little freak should be euthanized.  Nothing good can come of letting it grow into an adult.


Why not go the Kim Jong Un route and execute the entire family?  Odds are, you'll nab at least one extra pedo that way.
 
2014-02-05 05:43:48 PM  

James10952001: lack of warmth: factoryconnection: miss diminutive: Well-adjusted, empathetic and reasonable 13 year olds don't rape their siblings just because they viewed some pornography. At 13 they know enough to understand how these actions are wrong and can impact another person.

I suspect there's more to the story here.

My wife used to work with underaged sex offenders.  Almost every single one was a victim of sexual abuse themselves, exposed to pornography and sex from a young age, often by relatives or close family friends.  Stories that were extremely difficult to listen to.

And then there was, every once in a while, the genuine sociopath with good parents that just had absolutely no empathy and no compunction in getting whatever he wanted.

So there is most likely a pedophile at the end of this story, too.

I tried getting my wife's aunt to understand that when we discussed her 10 yro son's sexual obsession, and how he should tell his psychiatrist about all he was up to.  She kept tight control on what he discussed in sessions and anything sexual wasn't permitted.  After they moved out, his behavior got so crazy worse, he is a ward of the state right now.  By 13, he was into sick perverted stuff that most adults find too disgusting, and would get him on FARK.  I know he didn't get any of those ideas in my house, I don't believe his mom led him to any of those things, however his father may have introduced him to it in one way or another.

I'm not looking forward to him getting out.

I don't think you can get someone into the really farked up stuff. Either they're wired that way or not. I've had enough friends send me the most farked up "porn" they could find, or set it as my wallpaper or alter my bookmarks and home page as a joke. Never made me want to fark a goat or an old fat guy or anything else like that.


You can get somebody fixated on the farked up shiat if you abuse them as a child.

There are plenty of people sexually abused as kids who have the compulsion to abuse other children but don't, and here is the important part, follow through.

Raped children may fantasize about rape later in life, and feel shame about it. They may be aroused and not know why. (My best counselor had to explain this to me)

They may feel inclined to rape others (as previous poster pointed out, a kid doesn't learn that "she won't remember" by himself). This is how the cycle perpetuates. This is why children take other children. (Majority of the time)

My money is on this boy having been abused, by somebody close, and parents ignored it when reported. So he assumed same thing would happen when he tried. Learned by example, only he got caught.

My heart goes out to the little girl. I sincerely hope she gets the therapy she will need.

/sexual abuse survivor.
//not a csb/s
///i now need a serious MLP fix to cleanse my mental palette.
 
2014-02-05 05:47:03 PM  
img.fark.net

...well?
 
2014-02-05 05:50:59 PM  
New game on X Box "Incest" a game the whole family can play.
 
2014-02-05 05:51:47 PM  

miss diminutive: Well-adjusted, empathetic and reasonable 13 year olds don't rape their siblings just because they viewed some pornography. At 13 they know enough to understand how these actions are wrong and can impact another person.

I suspect there's more to the story here.


She was hot?
 
2014-02-05 05:53:27 PM  

ZeroCorpse: `Playing Devil's Advocate here...

Was what happened actual rape, as in, penetration of some sort? Or was it two young kids playing doctor? TFA is vague on this point.

Kids DO touch each other. They do experiment with their body parts with each other. There's a difference between normal childhood sexual experimentation, and rape.

Now, granted, this 13-year-old should be past the point of playing doctor, but some boys do mature more slowly and it's possible he was still mentally at that "your body is different from my body" mode.

I just think we're too quick to call anything vaguely sexual "rape" these days. If it was just "you touch mine and I'll touch yours" that's a lot different than "lay down and let me put this in you."

Again; Just asking a question. Not defending the little freak.


An 8 yr old cannot consent, so yes it's rape.
 
2014-02-05 05:53:31 PM  
 
2014-02-05 05:54:37 PM  
I'm amazed I have to say it.
 
2014-02-05 05:55:04 PM  
Christ, now there's 8 year olds having more sex than me.
 
2014-02-05 05:55:58 PM  
I find I want more information into how this act was discovered. I think rape in the idea that he held her down tore her underwear off is less likely than a case of sexual experimentation that resulted in him having actual sex with his sister. I am guessing at some point she had wanted the play to end most likely at the point of penetration and he did not stop. I guess sometime after the event she told a parent. I am still wondering how as a parent you go from finding out your son had sex with your daughter to calling the police to have him arrested. For the wellbeing of the family wouldn't the parents try to correct the issue quietly and quickly before bringing in law enforcement? This event has been dragged out for I am guessing months with all of society expressing how horrible this was and how she was victimized by her own brother. She is going to be damaged now for life when it could have been over and recovered from more quickly. I would have handled the situation differently which I think would have had less impact on the development of both children.
 
2014-02-05 05:56:44 PM  

cookiefleck: ZeroCorpse: `Playing Devil's Advocate here...

Was what happened actual rape, as in, penetration of some sort? Or was it two young kids playing doctor? TFA is vague on this point.

Kids DO touch each other. They do experiment with their body parts with each other. There's a difference between normal childhood sexual experimentation, and rape.

Now, granted, this 13-year-old should be past the point of playing doctor, but some boys do mature more slowly and it's possible he was still mentally at that "your body is different from my body" mode.

I just think we're too quick to call anything vaguely sexual "rape" these days. If it was just "you touch mine and I'll touch yours" that's a lot different than "lay down and let me put this in you."

Again; Just asking a question. Not defending the little freak.

An 8 yr old cannot consent, so yes it's rape.


Also, this is entirely different from, say, two eight year olds. The 13 year old was in a position of power over the eight year old both physically and mentally.
 
2014-02-05 05:56:56 PM  

cookiefleck: ZeroCorpse: `Playing Devil's Advocate here...

Was what happened actual rape, as in, penetration of some sort? Or was it two young kids playing doctor? TFA is vague on this point.

Kids DO touch each other. They do experiment with their body parts with each other. There's a difference between normal childhood sexual experimentation, and rape.

Now, granted, this 13-year-old should be past the point of playing doctor, but some boys do mature more slowly and it's possible he was still mentally at that "your body is different from my body" mode.

I just think we're too quick to call anything vaguely sexual "rape" these days. If it was just "you touch mine and I'll touch yours" that's a lot different than "lay down and let me put this in you."

Again; Just asking a question. Not defending the little freak.


An 8 yr old cannot consent, so yes it's rape.


And also, he knew that she "couldn't remember stuff" so he was also aware that it was wrong.
 
2014-02-05 06:00:23 PM  

Profedius: I find I want more information into how this act was discovered. I think rape in the idea that he held her down tore her underwear off is less likely than a case of sexual experimentation that resulted in him having actual sex with his sister. I am guessing at some point she had wanted the play to end most likely at the point of penetration and he did not stop. I guess sometime after the event she told a parent. I am still wondering how as a parent you go from finding out your son had sex with your daughter to calling the police to have him arrested. For the wellbeing of the family wouldn't the parents try to correct the issue quietly and quickly before bringing in law enforcement? This event has been dragged out for I am guessing months with all of society expressing how horrible this was and how she was victimized by her own brother. She is going to be damaged now for life when it could have been over and recovered from more quickly. I would have handled the situation differently which I think would have had less impact on the development of both children.


Oh my god. Parents correct the issue? Not report rape to the police ?

What are you, a catholic priest or a penn state alum?

I hope you realize that "letting the parents handle it" is how young rapists continue raping longer before they are caught. Though the amount of effort you went into qualifying how this situation might be okie dokie makes me think you won't get it.

Christ on sale, and I thought some of the other comments here were retarded...
 
2014-02-05 06:00:46 PM  
Thi

Profedius: I find I want more information into how this act was discovered. I think rape in the idea that he held her down tore her underwear off is less likely than a case of sexual experimentation that resulted in him having actual sex with his sister. I am guessing at some point she had wanted the play to end most likely at the point of penetration and he did not stop. I guess sometime after the event she told a parent. I am still wondering how as a parent you go from finding out your son had sex with your daughter to calling the police to have him arrested. For the wellbeing of the family wouldn't the parents try to correct the issue quietly and quickly before bringing in law enforcement? This event has been dragged out for I am guessing months with all of society expressing how horrible this was and how she was victimized by her own brother. She is going to be damaged now for life when it could have been over and recovered from more quickly. I would have handled the situation differently which I think would have had less impact on the development of both children.


her brother farked her because "she was small" and "knew that she wouldn't remember". Please RTFA before you get all MRA on an obvious sociopath.
 
2014-02-05 06:01:03 PM  

James10952001: lack of warmth:

I tried getting my wife's aunt to understand that when we discussed her 10 yro son's sexual obsession, and how he should tell his psychiatrist about all he was up to.  She kept tight control on what he discussed in sessions and anything sexual wasn't permitted.  After they moved out, his behavior got so crazy worse, he is a ward of the state right now.  By 13, he was into sick perverted stuff that most adults find too disgusting, and would get him on FARK.  I know he didn't get any of those ideas in my house, I don't believe his mom led him to any of those things, however his father may have introduced him to it in one way or another.

I'm not looking forward to him getting out.

I don't think you can get someone into the really farked up stuff. Either they're wired that way or not. I've had enough friends send me the most farked up "porn" they could find, or set it as my wallpaper or alter my bookmarks and home page as a joke. Never made me want to fark a goat or an old fat guy or anything else like that.


I don't necessarily think his dad introduced the crazy crap, he might've, but I think he did something.  As for how far someone goes, it's just how far they choose to go down that rabbit hole.  We've all been exposed to more than we find arousing.  I could be wrong and his mom's enabling may have went further than I know for sure it to be, she may have let him search for porn.  What I do know is the kid started masturbating at around 9, however he got really interested in others' bathroom habits, both genders.  He liked to watch small children use the bathroom.

/I'm just grateful my younger kids didn't get victimized by him, my sil's kids weren't so lucky
 
2014-02-05 06:05:47 PM  
When I was 8, my friend's sister, who was 11, wanted to "experiment" with me. Well, just touching.  So I can see if the 13 year old is really immature and he did the same kind of thing, it isn't as bad as actual rape.  Still weird though.
/I wish I had that kind of action still!...
 
2014-02-05 06:06:00 PM  
 
2014-02-05 06:07:21 PM  

vicioushobbit: Profedius: I find I want more information into how this act was discovered. I think rape in the idea that he held her down tore her underwear off is less likely than a case of sexual experimentation that resulted in him having actual sex with his sister. I am guessing at some point she had wanted the play to end most likely at the point of penetration and he did not stop. I guess sometime after the event she told a parent. I am still wondering how as a parent you go from finding out your son had sex with your daughter to calling the police to have him arrested. For the wellbeing of the family wouldn't the parents try to correct the issue quietly and quickly before bringing in law enforcement? This event has been dragged out for I am guessing months with all of society expressing how horrible this was and how she was victimized by her own brother. She is going to be damaged now for life when it could have been over and recovered from more quickly. I would have handled the situation differently which I think would have had less impact on the development of both children.

Oh my god. Parents correct the issue? Not report rape to the police ?

What are you, a catholic priest or a penn state alum?

I hope you realize that "letting the parents handle it" is how young rapists continue raping longer before they are caught. Though the amount of effort you went into qualifying how this situation might be okie dokie makes me think you won't get it.

Christ on sale, and I thought some of the other comments here were retarded...


I agree and add, this would also deny the victim the physical and mental health care she needs after being raped, as all doctors and counselors are mandated reporters. They would also have to coach her to shut the hell up and never, ever speak about it because any adult in her school, any coach, any girl scout leader, ect. is also a mandated reporter. Can you comprehend the message this would send to that little girl? Can you understand the damage that would do? Above and beyond the act itself?

I'm feeling a bit sick at the moment thinking of all the children treated in exactly this way. YEAY on the parents, whatever their mistakes may have been in the past, for reporting this. That was absolutely the correct, and ONLY response.
 
2014-02-05 06:09:59 PM  

oukewldave: When I was 8, my friend's sister, who was 11, wanted to "experiment" with me. Well, just touching.  So I can see if the 13 year old is really immature and he did the same kind of thing, it isn't as bad as actual rape.  Still weird though.
/I wish I had that kind of action still!...


no he actually admitted to raping her.
 
2014-02-05 06:12:59 PM  

browntimmy: Really, why is the X-Box so prominent in this story? He could have just as easily viewed the porn on a smart phone or tablet.


Because it's a Microsoft product.

Microsoft is evil.
 
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