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2014-02-05 01:07:03 PM  
upload.wikimedia.org

Sounds like a Kihnspiracy to me.
 
2014-02-05 01:14:00 PM  
Honest, I only lost on Jeopardy ...

...baby...
 
2014-02-05 01:15:10 PM  
I know nothing of Jeopardy strategy, so that was fairly interesting. Until I got to this line:

So if the current rules are so bad, change them again.

Nobody but this guy seems to be complaining about the rules because he's a sore loser.
 
2014-02-05 01:17:46 PM  
If you're so dumb you can't use the buzzer, you probably deserve to lose.
 
2014-02-05 01:18:03 PM  
Sounds to me like he isn't complaining at all.
 
2014-02-05 01:18:12 PM  
I took Potpourri for $100 and then my head started to spin
 
2014-02-05 01:19:26 PM  

jake_lex: I took Potpourri for $100 and then my head started to spin


I'm givin' up
Don Pardo:
Just tell me now what I didn't win
 
2014-02-05 01:20:22 PM  
www.myplay.com

/Sympathizes
 
2014-02-05 01:21:08 PM  
how is buzzer formed
 
2014-02-05 01:21:23 PM  
I've actually read that working the buzzer is a big part of succeeding at Jeopardy.  That said, it's not like the other contestants' buzzers were any more or less forgiving, and it is a challenge that everyone had to deal with.  He just happened to suck at an important part of the game.

It'd be like me saying that the only reason I'm not an NFL running back is because I'm slow and can't break tackles or hold onto the ball very well.
 
2014-02-05 01:21:26 PM  

SmackLT: Sounds to me like he isn't complaining at all.


Agreed:

Do I begrudge Jay his Daily Double-hunting and his buzzer experience? Do I think it was bad sportsmanship? Of course not. He was free to avail himself of such gamesmanship, as was I. And none of it would have amounted to much if he did not know his stuff, which he did.
 
2014-02-05 01:23:08 PM  
Ruff, just the way your mother likes it, Trebek!
 
2014-02-05 01:23:54 PM  
Laugh if you might, but timing is everything with gameshow buzzers.

Though modern ones are digital, they all have a relay/delay circuit in them that will lock out the other contestants for a certain time (usually 3 seconds or so), so repeated button mashing won't work to give you
any advantage (and, indeed, for some of them is a disadvantage by prolonging your lockout period).

/Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.
 
2014-02-05 01:24:16 PM  
i42.tinypic.com
 
2014-02-05 01:24:49 PM  
I thought it was going to be about this guy:

images.huffingtonpost.com
 
2014-02-05 01:25:02 PM  
Chu was awesome.
 
2014-02-05 01:25:05 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2014-02-05 01:25:34 PM  
How dare he pick questions in a non-sequential order?  He has discovered the trick to win the game.

Other than knowing the answers to the questions. Which I would assert does the heavy lifting in any winning gambit.
 
2014-02-05 01:25:41 PM  
Squeeze it, don't jerk it.

cdn.uproxx.com
 
2014-02-05 01:25:54 PM  
I was on Jeopardy.  I lost against a plumber and an architect...both with a PhD.
 
2014-02-05 01:26:05 PM  

Gig103: Nobody but this guy seems to be complaining about the rules because he's a sore loser.


He doesn't seem to be a sore loser at all. In fact, he spends most of the article calling the complaints stupid and talking about how Chu is simply playing the game how the rules allow him to. He even makes a point to say that he is not mad and the guy who beat him was just better at it.
 
2014-02-05 01:28:02 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I've actually read that working the buzzer is a big part of succeeding at Jeopardy.  That said, it's not like the other contestants' buzzers were any more or less forgiving, and it is a challenge that everyone had to deal with.  He just happened to suck at an important part of the game.

It'd be like me saying that the only reason I'm not an NFL running back is because I'm slow and can't break tackles or hold onto the ball very well.


Indeed. A great deal of Jeopardy questions are set up so that a large percentage of people will know the answer (sometimes with cutesie hints, etc.). Since you can read faster than Alex can talk, buzzer timing is crucial. Unlike quiz bowl, you can't interrupt the question, so it's a matter of timing it perfectly; as the article noted, you get locked out for 1/4 second if you're too early and that's likely to give someone else a chance to buzz before you're back in. Ken Jennings noted that over the course of a winning streak, you become very familiar with Alex's speech patterns and are able to tell when he's going to finish the last word and the techie will activate the buzzers.
 
2014-02-05 01:28:04 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.


How's that Epiphone guitar working out for you?

/would've traded my consolation prize for a sniff of Marisol's panties
 
2014-02-05 01:28:31 PM  
I don't know why this guy's gotten all this attention as the ONLY guy to do this.  I've seen plenty of people category hop and fish for Daily Doubles.
 
2014-02-05 01:29:52 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I've actually read that working the buzzer is a big part of succeeding at Jeopardy.


Hahaha it totally is.
I was on Jeopardy a couple years ago and timing the damn buzzer was really tough for me. What's odd is that I kicked ass with it in the practice rounds. Nerves are one part; another is that for practice, it's a production assistant reading the questions, and the timing of when they stop talking vs. when the buzzers activate is subtly different from how it is with Trebek himself.

They really do give you protips during the commercial break if you appear to be buzzer-impaired. It does not usually help that much.

/at least I lost to somebody good
 
2014-02-05 01:30:55 PM  
People are criticizing this guy for actually having a strategy to win?
 
2014-02-05 01:31:24 PM  

robsul82: I don't know why this guy's gotten all this attention as the ONLY guy to do this.  I've seen plenty of people category hop and fish for Daily Doubles.


I think it's the betting patterns.

Out of all the people I know that watch Jeopardy religiously, there are two common annoyances:
1) People that take a long time to choose the next answer/category
2) People that bet small on daily doubles or bet conservatively in Final Jeopardy.
 
2014-02-05 01:32:51 PM  

RminusQ: Since you can read faster than Alex can talk, buzzer timing is crucial


Weirdly, annoyingly, you have to squint to read the questions when you're a contestant - there is no big screen (although there is for the studio audience) and the text appears only on the Jeopardy! board.
 
2014-02-05 01:34:06 PM  
It was the "Who are three people who have never been in my kitchen?" question, wasn't it? That'll get ya every time.
 
2014-02-05 01:36:11 PM  

Uzzah: DjangoStonereaver: Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.

How's that Epiphone guitar working out for you?

/would've traded my consolation prize for a sniff of Marisol's panties


I was in the 3rd season, after Kari had left (and believe me, that was a HUGE disappointment), and while
Alicia Coppola was very nice, she just wasn't very compelling.

I won LA Gear sneakers (which fell apart within 6 months), Wella hair care products (which I never actually
got yet paid taxes on. Thanks Obama's TARDIS!), and the PC version of the game (on 5 /14" floppy no
less, and before I owned a PC to play it on).

One of my best friends did get his picture on the game box, though.
 
2014-02-05 01:36:29 PM  

topcon: I was on Jeopardy.  I lost against a plumber and an architect...both with a PhD.


Can you tell me what you didn't win?
 
2014-02-05 01:36:58 PM  
csb time.

former jeopardy contestant here, so of course all my friends are sending me these articles about this guy. i have no problem with his strategy, and if i had employed it i would undoubtedly still be a returning champion.

actually, prior to my show there was a 6-day champ who had similar strategies (at least as far as jumping around the board, searching for DD's, etc), and people were similarly "angry" about that. $100k+ later he certainly didn't care, and I might've even tried to (unsuccessfully) emulate his techniques in my episodes. bottom line--the guy there (and this guy) had loads of trivia knowledge as well as the understanding of the game necessary to make him an excellent player. nothing wrong with that IMO.

that said, the buzzer timing is a HUGE deal. between the 3 contestants in any given episode it's safe to assume that at least one (and often all 3) know EVERY ANSWER. so of course it comes down to timing. i was all over it in my first show and still only won as a result of the 2 others missing what i thought was a simple FJ clue. my 2nd show was filmed after our lunch break and somehow in that brief hour or so i completely lost my timing. they even give you a few minutes to practice before the taping starts, and i just could not figure out why i could no longer successfully buzz in like i could during the 1st show. so, to anyone watching my 2nd show it may appear that i know nothing about stevie wonder, when in fact i just couldn't beat the farker at podium 3 to the buzzer. and of course he went back and forth beating each other resulting in the woman between us winning.

still, i can't really complain about the nearly $30k i pulled in (though i might go back on that once i'm done filing taxes...)

/end CSB
//june 26-27, 2013 for anyone who really gives a shiat
 
2014-02-05 01:37:21 PM  

macross87: blatz514:

Light urple?


FEBTOBER!
 
2014-02-05 01:39:35 PM  

Beeblebrox: I thought it was going to be about this guy:

[images.huffingtonpost.com image 409x222]


That picture says everything you need to know about media in America. It turns out the late-night sidekick is a pretty smart guy, while the guy with a current events news show is a flippin' idiot.
 
2014-02-05 01:41:01 PM  

Inchoate: HMS_Blinkin: I've actually read that working the buzzer is a big part of succeeding at Jeopardy.

Hahaha it totally is.
I was on Jeopardy a couple years ago and timing the damn buzzer was really tough for me. What's odd is that I kicked ass with it in the practice rounds. Nerves are one part; another is that for practice, it's a production assistant reading the questions, and the timing of when they stop talking vs. when the buzzers activate is subtly different from how it is with Trebek himself.

They really do give you protips during the commercial break if you appear to be buzzer-impaired. It does not usually help that much.

/at least I lost to somebody good


..and again, name anything doable imaginable, and there is a Farker who's done it.

My thing?  I happen to be an expert in developing MMORPGS.  I'm trying to get a coworker to start Farking.  He's a former JPL rocket scientist.
 
2014-02-05 01:41:59 PM  
Saw some stuff about Arthur over on the Erfworld site ( he narrates web comicd there). Sounds like there are a lot of fashion critics that watch that show too.
 
2014-02-05 01:43:12 PM  
I sure hope he does better next weekend on the Price is Right

/ight
/ight
 
2014-02-05 01:43:38 PM  

robsul82: I don't know why this guy's gotten all this attention as the ONLY guy to do this.  I've seen plenty of people category hop and fish for Daily Doubles.


Lots of the complainers seem to also not like the guy's personality.

But yeah, he was on CNN a day or two ago and basically said he got his strategy from seeing other people do it.
 
2014-02-05 01:47:40 PM  
Jesus, they're really trying to milk this " controversial" guy.
 
2014-02-05 01:48:35 PM  

bulldg4life: Gig103: Nobody but this guy seems to be complaining about the rules because he's a sore loser.

He doesn't seem to be a sore loser at all. In fact, he spends most of the article calling the complaints stupid and talking about how Chu is simply playing the game how the rules allow him to. He even makes a point to say that he is not mad and the guy who beat him was just better at it.


Agreed.  He knows why he lost.  And is just telling the story.

As a huge Jeopardy fan myself, I think the biggest mistake that people make is when they bet 100% of their money on Final Jeopardy.  So many times, I have seen someone win the game (live to fight another day, as it were), simply by holding a dollar, when everyone else bet it all.
 
2014-02-05 01:49:45 PM  
Maybe it's just me, but how would category hopping or otherwise moving around randomly improve your chances of getting a Daily Double? If they're evenly distributed across games, they're equally likely to appear as the first question(s) on the top left as they are to be in any other particular location.

I see why you should go for the highest-point questions first. But that just seems like common sense (get more money before you hit a Daily Double so you have more to wager when you do hit one).
 
2014-02-05 01:50:00 PM  
Being good with the buzzer and hunting down the daily doubles wouldn't mean shiat if he didn't know the questions to all those answers, but TFA rightly points out that he does know them and deserves those wins.
 
2014-02-05 01:53:26 PM  
Maybe he was tense, he was nervous. I guess it just wasn't his night.
 
2014-02-05 01:54:01 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I've actually read that working the buzzer is a big part of succeeding at Jeopardy.


And in the bedroom!
 
2014-02-05 01:55:03 PM  

Verrai: Maybe it's just me, but how would category hopping or otherwise moving around randomly improve your chances of getting a Daily Double? If they're evenly distributed across games, they're equally likely to appear as the first question(s) on the top left as they are to be in any other particular location.

I see why you should go for the highest-point questions first. But that just seems like common sense (get more money before you hit a Daily Double so you have more to wager when you do hit one).


I could be wrong, but I think, almost always, the Daily Double questions are in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th row. I guess I don't read about Jeopardy often, but I didn't know this was a controversy, and I'm not sure I even understand what the complaints are about. Why would it matter what order someone picks answers in.
 
2014-02-05 01:57:56 PM  
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/this makes me laugh everytime
 
2014-02-05 02:00:11 PM  
31.media.tumblr.com
/formal protest
//informal protest
 
2014-02-05 02:00:49 PM  

JohnHall: Why would it matter what order someone picks answers in.


I figure it's because a lot of spectators and contestants are more comfortable with a more thematically straightforward approach to question selection. Do all, or a few, of the questions from column A; move to column D, etc. This makes it easier for people to get their minds in gear for a particular topic and get a strong sense of the question themes, without having to shift focus (an effort) too often.

Chu knows his stuff. More power to him.
 
2014-02-05 02:00:58 PM  

Verrai: Maybe it's just me, but how would category hopping or otherwise moving around randomly improve your chances of getting a Daily Double? If they're evenly distributed across games, they're equally likely to appear as the first question(s) on the top left as they are to be in any other particular location.

I see why you should go for the highest-point questions first. But that just seems like common sense (get more money before you hit a Daily Double so you have more to wager when you do hit one).


Moving around randomly? Beats me why anybody would do that on Jeopardy, if it were me I'd take the highest dollar questions first, no matter the category. Screw working from small to large, go large to small. If you manage to get a big enough lead on your competitors no amount of small dollar questions will save them.
 
2014-02-05 02:01:26 PM  
Plenty of contestants category hop with mixed results. I think what most people are responding to in this case is this guy comes off as a smug twat while doing so.
 
2014-02-05 02:01:57 PM  

JohnHall: Verrai: Maybe it's just me, but how would category hopping or otherwise moving around randomly improve your chances of getting a Daily Double? If they're evenly distributed across games, they're equally likely to appear as the first question(s) on the top left as they are to be in any other particular location.

I see why you should go for the highest-point questions first. But that just seems like common sense (get more money before you hit a Daily Double so you have more to wager when you do hit one).

I could be wrong, but I think, almost always, the Daily Double questions are in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th row. I guess I don't read about Jeopardy often, but I didn't know this was a controversy, and I'm not sure I even understand what the complaints are about. Why would it matter what order someone picks answers in.


Well, because they are worth more money, duh.

That actually is a mighty fine strategy, especially if you've played a few games, and are more comfortable, as the questions are harder.  Taking those questions for yourself against lesser experienced players will obviously give you an edge.

To better explain - assuming the bit with the buzzer is a factor, you want to be the one making the choices, not your opponents.  And by the time they get as comfortable as you with it, there are only low value answers left on the board.  And if they answer incorrectly during that time of discomfort, that essentially is the same thing as you answering it correctly, as they LOSE that much money.
 
2014-02-05 02:03:16 PM  
What really gaming a game show looks like:
mentalfloss.com
 
2014-02-05 02:04:57 PM  
Its a freakin' hammer!
 
2014-02-05 02:06:16 PM  

NeoCortex42: What really gaming a game show looks like:
[mentalfloss.com image 640x430]


No whammies no whammies no whammies.... STOP!
 
2014-02-05 02:09:43 PM  

robsul82: I don't know why this guy's gotten all this attention as the ONLY guy to do this.  I've seen plenty of people category hop and fish for Daily Doubles.


I used the exact same strategies when I was on.  In the lead-up before the taping, they even tell you how to look for Daily Doubles.  Or at least they did all those years ago.  And it doesn't take a genius to figure out you can't answer if you don't buzz in.

/I only lost my second game because I got nervous and miscalculated my final bet
 
2014-02-05 02:11:35 PM  

Carn: NeoCortex42: What really gaming a game show looks like:
[mentalfloss.com image 640x430]

No whammies no whammies no whammies.... STOP!


$5000 and a spin!
 
2014-02-05 02:12:02 PM  
Looking for  "Celebrity Jeopardy" reference, disappointed.
 
2014-02-05 02:12:07 PM  
They give you ample time to try out the buzzers before taping and even help you out with any concerns. They also have a team that helps contestants figure out how to make their wagers correctly for final Jeopardy.
 
2014-02-05 02:15:35 PM  

Donnchadha: Carn: NeoCortex42: What really gaming a game show looks like:
[mentalfloss.com image 640x430]

No whammies no whammies no whammies.... STOP!

$5000 and a spin!


Yes!  Alright one more spin I'm gonna Press My Luck, I got this!
 
2014-02-05 02:16:51 PM  

Ex-Texan: Looking for  "Celebrity Jeopardy" reference, disappointed.


Read the thread again yo.

durbnpoisn: To better explain - assuming the bit with the buzzer is a factor, you want to be the one making the choices, not your opponents. And by the time they get as comfortable as you with it, there are only low value answers left on the board. And if they answer incorrectly during that time of discomfort, that essentially is the same thing as you answering it correctly, as they LOSE that much money.


That's a very good point.

Going through the lower-money questions in a category also helps you rule out answers for the harder ones, because answers on Jeopardy are rarely repeated (and tend to be a gimmicky pattern when they are).
 
2014-02-05 02:18:16 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: Laugh if you might, but timing is everything with gameshow buzzers.

Though modern ones are digital, they all have a relay/delay circuit in them that will lock out the other contestants for a certain time (usually 3 seconds or so), so repeated button mashing won't work to give you
any advantage (and, indeed, for some of them is a disadvantage by prolonging your lockout period).

/Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.


Took me about four buzzer fails to finally work out the timing.

/anyone else remember the tribute to lunch meat?
 
2014-02-05 02:18:45 PM  

NeoCortex42: What really gaming a game show looks like:
[mentalfloss.com image 640x430]


Oh, man, that's a classic.

And, not for nuthin', he should not have gotten any flack for that.  He figured out the pattern.  Hell, he studied it!  It seems to me that the people that wrote the software should have used a more random pattern generator.  Although, I guess in those days, software wasn't quite as flexible as it is nowadays.  True randomization was not really easy at all.
 
2014-02-05 02:18:51 PM  

NeoCortex42: What really gaming a game show looks like:


He looked like the pressure was giving him a nervous breakdown the longer he played. I expected that if he slipped and missed that his head would just explode.
 
2014-02-05 02:23:35 PM  

HMS_Blinkin: I've actually read that working the buzzer is a big part of succeeding at Jeopardy.  That said, it's not like the other contestants' buzzers were any more or less forgiving, and it is a challenge that everyone had to deal with.  He just happened to suck at an important part of the game.

It'd be like me saying that the only reason I'm not an NFL running back is because I'm slow and can't break tackles or hold onto the ball very well.


I thought they had to basically 'qualify' to be on the show. How did he get that far if he couldn't use the equipment?
 
2014-02-05 02:23:42 PM  
That's right, Al -- YOU LOST!  And let me tell you what you didn't win: a twenty volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat. But that's not all. You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people. And you brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come! You don't get to come back tomorrow! You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game. You're a COMPLETE LOSER!
 
2014-02-05 02:28:45 PM  
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I played on Jeopardy after they started sabotaging the fat ugly neck beards who'd won every season since the show started. Full disclosure: I'm a fat ugly farker. I was ahead 2600 to my opponents' scores of 600 each and during the first commercial they turned off my buzzer. The only question they let me answer for the rest of the game was the only one neither of my 2 opponents buzzed in on and that took 2 seconds and 5 presses before the board even responded.   After Ken Jenning's "miraculous" run anyone who doesn't realize the show is more fixed than the WWE has an IQ equal to their shoe size.
 
2014-02-05 02:28:47 PM  
Another CSB

Also a former Jeopardy two time winner (1999)... Buzzer timing is key and also a reason you dont see many folks over say 45 on the show... reaction speed is paramount..
 
2014-02-05 02:28:59 PM  
What's really irritating about Chu is not his strategy while playing Jeopardy, it's the fact that he holds the signalling/buzzer device, up high, right next to his microphone.

Click, Click, Click, Click!, Click!, Click, CLICK!, CLICK!, CLICK!
 
2014-02-05 02:29:00 PM  
People need to learn what "competition" means.  You are supposed to try to win.

This is the same attitude that stupid people (mostly children) on MMOs have when they say "He's a scammer!"  Turns out, they got an offer and stupidly, greedily traded their stuff for it without security, only to have the other person walk away.  "He isn't playing the game with my interests in mind, so he's a bad player."
 
2014-02-05 02:31:18 PM  

Lee Jackson Beauregard: That's right, Al -- YOU LOST!  And let me tell you what you didn't win: a twenty volume set of the Encyclopedia International, a case of Turtle Wax, and a year's supply of Rice-A-Roni, the San Francisco Treat. But that's not all. You also made yourself look like a jerk in front of millions of people. And you brought shame and disgrace to your family name for generations to come! You don't get to come back tomorrow! You don't even get a lousy copy of our home game. You're a COMPLETE LOSER!


++
 
2014-02-05 02:32:13 PM  

theknuckler_33: thought they had to basically 'qualify' to be on the show. How did he get that far if he couldn't use the equipment?


Because it's based on the person giving giving the answers, to which you supply the questions. The time between Trebek finishing and the button being turned on is fairly constant. BUT, it's a different amount of time than in a qualifying round where you have a different "host" and technician doing the button enabling. So really, there' s a bit of luck in the qualifying rounds, plus the ability to figure out that timing and adapt to it. Then, once you are on the real show, you have to adapt again. But if you can win, you now have an advantage over the other contestants. You're used to the Trebek timing now, and they aren't, so you can use that to your advantage to keep winning.
 
2014-02-05 02:36:08 PM  

theknuckler_33: I thought they had to basically 'qualify' to be on the show. How did he get that far if he couldn't use the equipment?


What  kidgenius said, plus there's the major difference between being ABLE to do something, and being GOOD at it.
 
2014-02-05 02:40:19 PM  
Has anyone else noticed an increase in stammering by the contestants lately? Seems like there are a lot of "uhhs," before choosing a category. You could make a drinking game out of it by taking a swig after each one.
 
2014-02-05 02:43:01 PM  

theknuckler_33: I thought they had to basically 'qualify' to be on the show. How did he get that far if he couldn't use the equipment?


Using the buzzer is not an important part of qualifying.
There's the online test. If you pass that, then there's an in-person audition which includes a 50-question written test, an interview, and a short mock game. The mock game is the ONLY thing that involves buzzers; it's very brief and not very competitive, and unless you stick the buzzer up your own ass you're not going to fail on that basis. They're interested in trivia ability and personality.

Practice rounds once you're actually on the set are for practice only and have no bearing on anything.
 
2014-02-05 02:47:35 PM  
I notice Chu never selects The Rapists, either.
 
2014-02-05 02:47:46 PM  

Carn: Donnchadha: Carn: NeoCortex42: What really gaming a game show looks like:
[mentalfloss.com image 640x430]

No whammies no whammies no whammies.... STOP!

$5000 and a spin!

Yes!  Alright one more spin I'm gonna Press My Luck, I got this!


I was at Firestone picking up my car (new set of tires) and Deal or No Deal went on. It was some black dude wanting money for his family. He's doing pretty well at the start and then gets a great offer... not only 100+k but gets to be modeled as a ref in nba live with some package trip to canada for it.

I think to myself, "I bet this guy is going to turn it down and lose it all." Sure enough the idiot decides to continue, then hits the million dollars leftover in the next two rounds.. ends up with something like 20 bucks.
 
2014-02-05 02:47:46 PM  

hubcity: DjangoStonereaver: Laugh if you might, but timing is everything with gameshow buzzers.

Though modern ones are digital, they all have a relay/delay circuit in them that will lock out the other contestants for a certain time (usually 3 seconds or so), so repeated button mashing won't work to give you
any advantage (and, indeed, for some of them is a disadvantage by prolonging your lockout period).

/Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.

Took me about four buzzer fails to finally work out the timing.

/anyone else remember the tribute to lunch meat?


Showoff... ;-)

/You were on the syndicated, version, not the REAL MTV version anyway.
 
2014-02-05 02:51:49 PM  
JFC!

What the hell is wrong with this guy?  Mr. Chu is playing to win, which by the way is the object of the farking game.

Welcome to America, where success will be punished at every opportunity..
 
2014-02-05 02:53:00 PM  
shirtoid.com
 
2014-02-05 03:02:14 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: hubcity: DjangoStonereaver: Laugh if you might, but timing is everything with gameshow buzzers.

Though modern ones are digital, they all have a relay/delay circuit in them that will lock out the other contestants for a certain time (usually 3 seconds or so), so repeated button mashing won't work to give you
any advantage (and, indeed, for some of them is a disadvantage by prolonging your lockout period).

/Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.

Took me about four buzzer fails to finally work out the timing.

/anyone else remember the tribute to lunch meat?

Showoff... ;-)

/You were on the syndicated, version, not the REAL MTV version anyway.


Nope, I was on the MTV one. Wall of videos and everything. The syndicated one had the wheel they strapped you to.

/...and the guitarist in the band on the last video was...

/
 
2014-02-05 03:04:16 PM  
www.myplay.com

Sympathizes.
 
2014-02-05 03:34:02 PM  

OscarTamerz: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 300x234]

I played on Jeopardy after they started sabotaging the fat ugly neck beards who'd won every season since the show started. Full disclosure: I'm a fat ugly farker. I was ahead 2600 to my opponents' scores of 600 each and during the first commercial they turned off my buzzer. The only question they let me answer for the rest of the game was the only one neither of my 2 opponents buzzed in on and that took 2 seconds and 5 presses before the board even responded.   After Ken Jenning's "miraculous" run anyone who doesn't realize the show is more fixed than the WWE has an IQ equal to their shoe size.


Given that they'd be breaking the Communications Act, I find this hard to believe.
 
2014-02-05 03:46:44 PM  
Am I the only one who thinks the Final Jeopardy music is just 'I'm a Little Tea Cup?"
 
2014-02-05 03:49:45 PM  
My wife, Tarn Allen, was on Friday's episode. Which can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TT0TH7NV2Q


/CSB
/Kick, etc.
 
2014-02-05 03:57:24 PM  

OscarTamerz: I played on Jeopardy after they started sabotaging the fat ugly neck beards who'd won every season since the show started. Full disclosure: I'm a fat ugly farker. I was ahead 2600 to my opponents' scores of 600 each and during the first commercial they turned off my buzzer. The only question they let me answer for the rest of the game was the only one neither of my 2 opponents buzzed in on and that took 2 seconds and 5 presses before the board even responded.   After Ken Jenning's "miraculous" run anyone who doesn't realize the show is more fixed than the WWE has an IQ equal to their shoe size.


Furthermore, Trebek is reading FROM A CARD! He wouldn't know the answers if he didn't have that card in front of him.
 
2014-02-05 04:07:49 PM  

hubcity: DjangoStonereaver: hubcity: DjangoStonereaver: Laugh if you might, but timing is everything with gameshow buzzers.

Though modern ones are digital, they all have a relay/delay circuit in them that will lock out the other contestants for a certain time (usually 3 seconds or so), so repeated button mashing won't work to give you
any advantage (and, indeed, for some of them is a disadvantage by prolonging your lockout period).

/Was on REMOTE CONTROL back in the 80s.  Came in 3rd.

Took me about four buzzer fails to finally work out the timing.

/anyone else remember the tribute to lunch meat?

Showoff... ;-)

/You were on the syndicated, version, not the REAL MTV version anyway.

Nope, I was on the MTV one. Wall of videos and everything. The syndicated one had the wheel they strapped you to.

/...and the guitarist in the band on the last video was...

/


Um......

YNGVE MALMSTEIN?
 
2014-02-05 04:33:04 PM  
My close cousin is a Jeopardy Champion, I taught him everything that I know... He told us that there is a light that indicates when the timing starts for buzzing in. He started out poorly on his first day, but during the commercial break, the assistants told him that he had to pause for another moment before hitting the buzzer.  After that, he kicked butt. Won six in a row, went to the Tournament of Champions, and came in second. He had a very nice pay out.
 
2014-02-05 04:40:23 PM  

GDubDub: My thing?  I happen to be an expert in developing MMORPGS.  I'm trying to get a coworker to start Farking.  He's a former JPL rocket scientist.


Me too, nearly 10 years now.  We probably know each other :D

/Tiny industry
 
2014-02-05 04:51:29 PM  

Ex-Texan: Looking for  "Celebrity Jeopardy" reference, disappointed.


Ummm...it was 12 posts in...

HighlanderRPI: Ruff, just the way your mother likes it, Trebek!
 
2014-02-05 04:54:16 PM  

JohnHall: Verrai: Maybe it's just me, but how would category hopping or otherwise moving around randomly improve your chances of getting a Daily Double? If they're evenly distributed across games, they're equally likely to appear as the first question(s) on the top left as they are to be in any other particular location.

I see why you should go for the highest-point questions first. But that just seems like common sense (get more money before you hit a Daily Double so you have more to wager when you do hit one).

I could be wrong, but I think, almost always, the Daily Double questions are in the 3rd, 4th, and 5th row. I guess I don't read about Jeopardy often, but I didn't know this was a controversy, and I'm not sure I even understand what the complaints are about. Why would it matter what order someone picks answers in.


Oh, that would make sense. They may also be explaining what he's doing poorly, if he's just selecting each of the highest value questions, then the next-highest, etc.
 
2014-02-05 04:56:07 PM  

AGremlin: What's really irritating about Chu is not his strategy while playing Jeopardy, it's the fact that he holds the signalling/buzzer device, up high, right next to his microphone.

Click, Click, Click, Click!, Click!, Click, CLICK!, CLICK!, CLICK!


Ah, now I get it. Deaf guy here so that aspect doesn't come through since they don't caption that. Explains some of the vitriol.

I do think that the hunting for Daily Double thing is a dick move. Easiest solution is to completely randomize the placement instead of them being, generally, on the bottom three questions in each category.
 
2014-02-05 05:12:35 PM  

OscarTamerz: [wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com image 300x234]

I played on Jeopardy after they started sabotaging the fat ugly neck beards who'd won every season since the show started. Full disclosure: I'm a fat ugly farker. I was ahead 2600 to my opponents' scores of 600 each and during the first commercial they turned off my buzzer. The only question they let me answer for the rest of the game was the only one neither of my 2 opponents buzzed in on and that took 2 seconds and 5 presses before the board even responded.   After Ken Jenning's "miraculous" run anyone who doesn't realize the show is more fixed than the WWE has an IQ equal to their shoe size.


img.fark.net

You're just pissed, because you knew the answer was "Marty."

/You saw it 3 times!
 
2014-02-05 05:20:34 PM  

Disgruntled Goat: They give you ample time to try out the buzzers before taping and even help you out with any concerns. They also have a team that helps contestants figure out how to make their wagers correctly for final Jeopardy.


A team? Wouldn't one geek with an Excel spreadsheet suffice?
 
2014-02-05 05:43:36 PM  
My GAS button is broken
 
2014-02-05 06:31:12 PM  
Chuck Forrest was the first to have major success category hopping. Fans call it the Forrest Bounce.

This was in the 1980s...

/Lost on Jeopardy because I wagered like a pussy on a daily double a failed to build a lead
 
2014-02-05 06:56:24 PM  

Beta Tested: GDubDub: My thing?  I happen to be an expert in developing MMORPGS.  I'm trying to get a coworker to start Farking.  He's a former JPL rocket scientist.

Me too, nearly 10 years now.  We probably know each other :D

/Tiny industry


So now we need to try to figure each other out.  I tried to get Drew to open up messaging a few years ago.  To no good.

Ok, I am the first MMO community guy.  I am reviled on the internet, long after I stopped doing community.  I have death threats.  My email address is f­irs­tnamela­stname[nospam-﹫-backwards]l­i­am­g*com.  If you've been in MMOs 10 years, I started15 years ago.  Sadly, any Farker with means now knows my identity.
 
2014-02-05 07:02:41 PM  
To confuse it a little, I also wrote the melee combat system, the spell system, and the item "magical ability enhancement" system, for a major MMO
 
2014-02-05 07:02:53 PM  
I was too slow to get "Weird" Al's I Lost On Jeopardy so you're stuck with this.


img.fark.net
 
2014-02-05 07:20:19 PM  
Nice troll, sub. First I read a really dumb article and then see a thread of people with zero chance of making the show claim they've been on it. Well done.
 
2014-02-05 07:23:24 PM  
Beta Tested


You work for CCP.
 
2014-02-05 07:24:44 PM  
Either that or you know Poe.
 
2014-02-05 07:35:03 PM  
Ok, you don't work at CCP, but you know Poe.
 
2014-02-05 09:06:43 PM  

blk47rs: I think what most people are responding to in this case is this guy comes off as a smug twat while doing so.


I haven't watched Jeopardy! in a few months, but that could be it. Smug contestants take away enjoyment of the show, apart from the show having a villain. I always want the smug people to lose. Always.
Anyone that smiles or looks glad to be there is the person I want to win.
 
2014-02-05 09:10:25 PM  

Stile4aly: Given that they'd be breaking the Communications Act, I find this hard to believe.


Yes, because large corporations never break the law in pursuit of profit dumbass.  They don't want us watching the show, they want them, the little ladies who would swoon over the Ken Jennings type.  The winner of my game was a Ken Jennings prototype and he went on to become one of the most photogenic 5 time winners up to that point in time.  The Tournament of Champions the year I was on looked like a casting call for "ideal suburban husband" instead of the previous years when they were casting calls for "fat, ugly, neck bearded, Cheetos scarfing porn aficionados."

www.wowhall.org
 
2014-02-05 09:20:03 PM  
Wow, we actually have former contestants here?  I'd love to be on the show, even though I sucked at the recent online test.

/keep an eye out for a $1234 bet and a drawing of a stick figure holding up a cocktail glass
 
2014-02-05 10:11:00 PM  
My brother was on it in 2009(?) for the college championship series and he ended up winning 100k. He said the buzzer shiat was pretty much luck because they would all click on every answer. Went back for the tournament of
Champions and got his ass kicked. To validate, he's on wikipedias entry for winners, representing Mississippi state.
 
2014-02-05 11:40:10 PM  

OscarTamerz: Stile4aly: Given that they'd be breaking the Communications Act, I find this hard to believe.

Yes, because large corporations never break the law in pursuit of profit dumbass.  They don't want us watching the show, they want them, the little ladies who would swoon over the Ken Jennings type.  The winner of my game was a Ken Jennings prototype and he went on to become one of the most photogenic 5 time winners up to that point in time.  The Tournament of Champions the year I was on looked like a casting call for "ideal suburban husband" instead of the previous years when they were casting calls for "fat, ugly, neck bearded, Cheetos scarfing porn aficionados."

[www.wowhall.org image 400x470]


Let's get some more details down, since you remember so much. What year / who was the guy who beat you?
 
2014-02-05 11:47:08 PM  
Is that the guy that wrote the torture hall pass for Bush and Cheney?
 
2014-02-06 03:32:49 AM  

GDubDub: Either that or you know Poe.


No and yes, very well.

That doesn't narrow it down much though, he knows EVERYONE :D
 
2014-02-06 12:56:02 PM  

strife: Wow, we actually have former contestants here?  I'd love to be on the show, even though I sucked at the recent online test.

/keep an eye out for a $1234 bet and a drawing of a stick figure holding up a cocktail glass


I made it to the "simulated game" portion of auditions, twice.

Screwed the pooch, both times.  Geography just kicks my ass, and it was prominent both times.

And if you think I was going to study for it, well....
 
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