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(Daily Mail)   One in five women say they were "deeply disappointed" by their husband's proposal, with most complaining the diamond ring was too small, the proposal wasn't romantic enough and it wasn't done on bended knee before an audience of all her friends   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 235
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2014-02-05 09:53:56 AM

scottydoesntknow: She thought we were alone at the stadium and was blown away.


Did you do that on the honeymoon too?
 
2014-02-05 09:54:56 AM

vudukungfu: scottydoesntknow: She thought we were alone at the stadium and was blown away.

Did you do that on the honeymoon too?


Planning on it!
 
2014-02-05 09:58:01 AM

kim jong-un: Pocket Ninja: What a timely and useful article that wasn't at all intended to generate a flame war. I'm sure there will be lots of very insightful and interesting comments in here reflecting on the possible questionable values being demonstrated by this completely real segment of our society about whom we should all have very strong opinions.

Well,what would you have of us then?


I'm no Pocket Ninja, but let me take a stab at this.  The Daily Mail website is notorious for ad agency funded "studies" that seek to instigate reaction for the purpose of 1) Getting website hits for the Daily Mail and 2) Getting people to talk about their product, service, or political ideology that they're pushing at the moment.

They count on the fact that people are too stupid to realize that they're being played.  It's clearly working as it seems Fark.com greenlighters happily fall into the advertising machine.

TLDR version.  This isn't a real study, it's an ad to sell diamonds/wedding services/divorce services.  It's aimed low, demonizing the stupid, prey on the base emotions.
 
2014-02-05 09:58:10 AM
Heh. I technically had to propose twice... despite her knowing it was coming at SOME point and that I was largely just waiting for the ring to be finished, I was still really nervous and flustered and did REALLY lame job of proposing and giving her the ring (made all the more lame since she knew me well enough to have discerned earlier in the day that the ring had been finished and I'd be proposing soon). We were going out to do some shopping and get dinner, and in the car she said she wanted me to do it again now that I wasn't quite so nervous. I picked a restaurant near where we'd had several of our first dates and proposed again at the spot where we'd first kissed, which went over much better (other than it being so cold we were both freezing).

She's still amazed at the ring though- unbeknownst to her my elderly widowed grandmother had given me her engagement ring to use the diamonds from in my fiancee's ring so I'd ended up designing a much more elaborate ring with MUCH bigger diamonds than she was expecting.
 
2014-02-05 09:58:34 AM

whatsupchuck: I never understood the need for a dramatic proposal and elaborate wedding. Ladies, your life is not a <insert famous Hollywood actress> movie, and in the end none of that is the least bit important.


ooh, this could be fun...  angelina jolie?  sigourney weaver? jamie lee curtis?  you've definitely got a keeper if she wants that kind of proposal and wedding... XD
 
2014-02-05 09:58:38 AM

Fafai: Epic Fap Session: Fafai: Yeah let me just get down on on my knees and BEG for the privilege to give you everything you want at the expense of my own interests.

You have a disturbingly warped realistic view of marriage and relationships.

Ok, Mr. Proposed-Two-Weeks-Ago. Get back to me in 12 years.


Sorry you chose so poorly.

Also, I started dating my fiancé in 2002. What else you got, bitter guy?
 
2014-02-05 09:58:38 AM

dopekitty74: That's just it. I was NOT pissed off. I'm the type who despises spending money on frivolities. The only thing about my wedding that pissed me off is that my best friend wasn't there because he was too busy being bipolar and anti-social at that point in time.


Bah, I never was much good at trolling!
 
2014-02-05 10:03:03 AM
I had this conversation with my GF recently...   the ring convo...       She showed me pics of what she would like... basically a $10k huge ass ring.   I said so you would rather have something to wear on your finger to show to your girls than to have us take a 2-3 week european vacation with the kids?  She said she wants the ring.  We've both been married/divorced 1x.  (not from each other)


I'm planning my escape route.
 
2014-02-05 10:06:30 AM

doubled99: Would love to add snarky comment however I found myself in this exact situation a few years ago. Proposed in an intimate spot, but could tell later she wasn't happy. Confided in me hours later she didn't like the ring, and was disappointed because she wanted a big public spectacle, which I definitely wasn't into. She didn't biatch me out, but freely expressed her dismay. I had such a confused jumble of emotions I didn't really know how to react at the time.



Well??  Did you come or what??
 
2014-02-05 10:08:19 AM
I went with a very nice ring and a romantic, but private proposal.  10 years later, totally worth not hearing a single complaint.  Fark all your idealism, totally worth the silence.
 
2014-02-05 10:08:44 AM

Gentoolive: piercedgeek: It's not that hard, guys.Sunset, beach, have someone with camera ready. Bonus points: have it printed to a wallet that she'll cherish for many years.

I bet she bulked up nicely


Na, she's always been chubby, since we met, but I find her attractive, enjoy spending time with her, and love our children. Really feel like I picked well, thank you :)


imashark:

Try titanium. The coolest rings I've seen use other weird precious metals-you could probably find a few that don't scratch all too easily.


+1 for titanium, I have a relatively cheap band for me, titanium with Celtic knots, has held up great. Insanely light, feels like plastic in your palm.
 
2014-02-05 10:11:24 AM

Mr.BobDobalita: I had this conversation with my GF recently...   the ring convo...       She showed me pics of what she would like... basically a $10k huge ass ring.   I said so you would rather have something to wear on your finger to show to your girls than to have us take a 2-3 week european vacation with the kids?  She said she wants the ring.  We've both been married/divorced 1x.  (not from each other)


I'm planning my escape route.


Stand by, a chopper is inbound.
 
2014-02-05 10:13:19 AM

Real Women Drink Akvavit: I asked a guy out on a date a couple years ago. He said "yes" and looked happy and amused, but the possibility of rejection was nearly paralyzing. Knowing how hard THAT was, if a guy I had been dating for a gazillion whatevers decided to pass a note with "will you marry me? check 'yes' or 'no'" through one of his friends, I'd be impressed he had the stones to ask at all. When the roles are reversed, even once, you tend to appreciate the effort a whole lot more.


Yup.  Thing is, as guys we are expected to do that all the time.
Women are always talking about wanting a confident guy, but at least you apparently know what it does to your confidence levels to ask someone you actually genuinely like out.  Now, imagine you got turned down.  Now do that several dozen times, over and over and over.

Welcome to being a guy.

Women wonder why we end up treating dates like meat?  Its a self defense mechanism.  You can't treat first dates like people, because its way too much of an emotional investment for someone you'll probably never see again.

We treat women in general like meat because its the only way we avoid walking around as soul shattered husks of disappointment.
 
2014-02-05 10:14:02 AM

Mr.BobDobalita: I had this conversation with my GF recently...   the ring convo...       She showed me pics of what she would like... basically a $10k huge ass ring.   I said so you would rather have something to wear on your finger to show to your girls than to have us take a 2-3 week european vacation with the kids?  She said she wants the ring.  We've both been married/divorced 1x.  (not from each other)


I'm planning my escape route.


Good plan... we made sure to budget for an awesome honeymoon (2 weeks in Ireland) and it was well worth it! If she's opting to go for maximum ring at the expense of such an experience... ESPECIALLY after having done the married thing once before... time to go
 
2014-02-05 10:18:18 AM
Pfft. I can top that.

The "proposal" I got from my husband was back in '93, when we were flying up to Canada to see my relatives. I was biatching about my passport paperwork, and he leaned over and said teasingly "You know, if we were married, you wouldn't have to go through that..." I believe my response was "You are a mofo (I don't do well with surprises). We'll talk about this later, but not on the middle of a plane."

In a couple months we'll have been married 10 years, so there's my little anecdote as to why "romantic proposals" don't mean a thing for a marriage except in someone's head.
 
2014-02-05 10:23:26 AM

Epic Fap Session: Fafai: Epic Fap Session: Fafai: Yeah let me just get down on on my knees and BEG for the privilege to give you everything you want at the expense of my own interests.

You have a disturbingly warped realistic view of marriage and relationships.

Ok, Mr. Proposed-Two-Weeks-Ago. Get back to me in 12 years.

Sorry you chose so poorly.

Also, I started dating my fiancé in 2002. What else you got, bitter guy?


Who says I'm bitter and who says I chose poorly? If I decided I chose poorly I would get divorced. Yet here I am, happily married. If you don't think both parties sacrifice a certain amount of freedom, you're either nuts or you're simple. But this tradition that the guy always does the proposing needs to change if we ever want real progress. It's antiquated and it's sexist from both sides at once (it puts women on pedestals, devalues the man's worth). The bended knee thing is just a farking disgrace. I don't know how any man who did that can ever look himself in the mirror, TBH. Talk about selling yourself short.
 
2014-02-05 10:28:33 AM

Fafai: Epic Fap Session: Fafai: Epic Fap Session: Fafai: Yeah let me just get down on on my knees and BEG for the privilege to give you everything you want at the expense of my own interests.

You have a disturbingly warped realistic view of marriage and relationships.

Ok, Mr. Proposed-Two-Weeks-Ago. Get back to me in 12 years.

Sorry you chose so poorly.

Also, I started dating my fiancé in 2002. What else you got, bitter guy?

Who says I'm bitter and who says I chose poorly? If I decided I chose poorly I would get divorced. Yet here I am, happily married. If you don't think both parties sacrifice a certain amount of freedom, you're either nuts or you're simple. But this tradition that the guy always does the proposing needs to change if we ever want real progress. It's antiquated and it's sexist from both sides at once (it puts women on pedestals, devalues the man's worth). The bended knee thing is just a farking disgrace. I don't know how any man who did that can ever look himself in the mirror, TBH. Talk about selling yourself short.


Ahh memories..

Remember the good ol days when you could smack a biatch?
 
2014-02-05 10:33:10 AM
I proposed to my wife in Fiji. Of course; she was living there at the time.
 
2014-02-05 10:36:50 AM
So, one in five women are self-centered, entitled biatches?

I am pleasantly surprised to find out this is so low.

Wait--that's one in five women who manage to keep the batshiat crazy turned down enough for a guy to ask to marry her, isn't it?

That would be a MUCH lower number.
 
2014-02-05 10:40:03 AM
We lived together for over a year before I proposed. You never really know someone until you live with them.

Her family didn't care for it that much, but seeing as how her first marriage ended in divorce (she got married kinda young), they knew better than to say anything.
 
2014-02-05 10:40:11 AM
Eww. Proposing in front of people just seems so.... I don't know. Attention-seeking? The last thing my fiancee and I would have wanted at that moment was other people's eyes on us.
 
2014-02-05 10:43:42 AM

Silly_Sot: So, one in five women are self-centered, entitled biatches?


I've definitely heard of some awful proposals that women have every right to be annoyed at. The size of the diamond is a pretty vapid complaint, but she has every right to expect you to put some effort into it. You're asking to spend the rest of your life with her, not whether she wants Chinese takeout or pizza.
 
2014-02-05 10:47:24 AM
She's thinking lobster, I'm thinking Burger King.
 
2014-02-05 10:48:33 AM

thurstonxhowell: You're asking to spend the rest of your life with her


But why? I bet if you asked, most guys would answer something along the lines of, "because she wanted it." So how about SHE put some effort into it? She's free to say no if she isn't happy with the effort. Let's stop pandering to women like they're royalty and maybe things will improve for everyone.
 
Ant
2014-02-05 10:50:46 AM
My proposal: After months of her saying "we should get married" was "OK, let's get married"

I'm not really a romantic type of guy, but I believe I've been a good husband for the last 22 years, and a good father for the last 8. The proposal and wedding and ring are given way too much significance. The marriage is more important.
 
2014-02-05 10:57:10 AM

piercedgeek: It's not that hard, guys.Sunset, beach, have someone with camera ready. Bonus points: have it printed to a wallet that she'll cherish for many years.
[www.piercedgeek.net image 314x235]


My waterway was the Mississippi in New Orleans, and the bridge was the Huey P. Long. Sunset on one horizon, lightning storm on the other.
 
2014-02-05 11:00:28 AM

Fafai: thurstonxhowell: You're asking to spend the rest of your life with her

But why? I bet if you asked, most guys would answer something along the lines of, "because she wanted it." So how about SHE put some effort into it? She's free to say no if she isn't happy with the effort. Let's stop pandering to women like they're royalty and maybe things will improve for everyone.


Well, I asked my fiancee because I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. If your reason for asking someone to spend the rest of their life with you is something other than you wanting them to say yes to that question, then maybe you should look in the mirror if you want someone to blame.
 
2014-02-05 11:01:35 AM
My wife hated mine.  We had been planning the wedding for months when she suddenly announced that I had never actually proposed to her (which was true I guess), so I got down on one knee and looked up with loving eyes and said "Hey babe, lets get hitched".  This did not go over well but we still got married and are about to celebrate 25 years together.

I still get crap for this, I guess that was just not the time for a joke.
 
2014-02-05 11:03:07 AM

Ant: My proposal: After months of her saying "we should get married" was "OK, let's get married"


This is exactly what I'm talking about. Good for you, Ant. She was the one chasing after marriage, and so you framed it in a way that you were giving her what she was asking for. I like that.

If I seem bitter in this thread it's just because I hate how it's obviously the woman who wants it more, the woman who has more to gain from marriage, and yet we still play this ridiculous game where the man has to ask and beg for her hand like it's something he wants more than she does, like she could just take it or leave it and is doing him a huge favor by accepting. I am shaking my head at all youi losers who kneeled down. Stop being losers.
 
2014-02-05 11:08:11 AM

ununcle: 3 in 6 men wish they weren't stupid enough to sign the best years of their life over to a selfish gold digging biatch. It's 50/50 guys.  I can't believe men are still falling for this farce.


It sucks that you chose the wrong woman, but statistically, married men are happier, make more money, live longer, have higher education, commit less crime, give more to charity, and vote more.  Yeah, it's a risk, but you're a farking man, when has risk aversion ever been an issue?
 
2014-02-05 11:11:41 AM

varmitydog: The former Kate Middleton's famous blue sapphire oval cut engagement ring was the firm favourite of 11 per centof the women polled

Hey, that's the same type of engagement ring I gave my wife, thirty years ago. I was poor and was going to get a cheap ring and my aunt found out about it and made me take it back, giving me the ring my grandfather gave my grandmother when he came back from WWI. Said it was a love gift and it would bring me luck. I lucked out since my wife considers it a treasured family heirloom.

/Nice to see that those royal limey f*ckers have the same good taste as my grandpappy.


Blue sapphires stand for trust, loyalty, and fidelity, which sounds more like what you want in a marriage than just "forever." And, according to an article I read, royals used to use them for engagement/wedding rings all the time, back in the day.

Sounds like you and your grandfather have wonderful taste. Congratulations on finding such a wonderful Lady.
 
2014-02-05 11:12:15 AM

thurstonxhowell: Fafai: thurstonxhowell: You're asking to spend the rest of your life with her

But why? I bet if you asked, most guys would answer something along the lines of, "because she wanted it." So how about SHE put some effort into it? She's free to say no if she isn't happy with the effort. Let's stop pandering to women like they're royalty and maybe things will improve for everyone.

Well, I asked my fiancee because I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her. If your reason for asking someone to spend the rest of their life with you is something other than you wanting them to say yes to that question, then maybe you should look in the mirror if you want someone to blame.


You don't need to be married to spend the rest of your life with someone, though. Yes, I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her, but I proposed marriage specifically to make her happy. It was totally about giving her what she wanted. I'm betting most of the time it is like this, as in Ant's story above. Yet we act like it's the other way around. It's pathetic.
 
2014-02-05 11:16:02 AM
Not satisfied with the circumstances of their husband's proposal, the diamond ring, or that they didn't get to show off in front of all their b*tchy, catty girlfriends?
Fark them.
/not bitter
//just hate stupid
 
2014-02-05 11:18:24 AM

danielscissorhands: [cache.reelz.com image 610x355]


THIS.

/I knew I had you favorited for a reason.
 
2014-02-05 11:19:23 AM

Mr.BobDobalita: I had this conversation with my GF recently...   the ring convo...       She showed me pics of what she would like... basically a $10k huge ass ring.   I said so you would rather have something to wear on your finger to show to your girls than to have us take a 2-3 week european vacation with the kids?  She said she wants the ring.  We've both been married/divorced 1x.  (not from each other)


I'm planning my escape route.


Yeah ... time to eject before this ride goes any further: divorces are expensive.  Especially if you're divorcing someone that self centered and materialistic.
 
2014-02-05 11:20:37 AM

Fafai: Yes, I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her, but I proposed marriage specifically to make her happy. It was totally about giving her what she wanted. I'm betting most of the time it is like this, as in Ant's story above. Yet we act like it's the other way around. It's pathetic.


thurstonxhowell: maybe you should look in the mirror if you want someone to blame

 
2014-02-05 11:28:29 AM

thurstonxhowell: Fafai: Yes, I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her, but I proposed marriage specifically to make her happy. It was totally about giving her what she wanted. I'm betting most of the time it is like this, as in Ant's story above. Yet we act like it's the other way around. It's pathetic.

thurstonxhowell: maybe you should look in the mirror if you want someone to blame


To blame for what? TFA is about how women expect proposals to be a certain way. Are you saying I can shoulder all of the blame for that somehow?
 
2014-02-05 11:31:12 AM
I wouldn't change my proposal story for the world.

We'd planned to go to dinner but I got sick that night (our 5-year anniversary). So I stayed home while he went out for take-out from the restaurant, and when I woke up from a nap, he'd set up dinner in the dining room with candles and everything. When I asked what had taken him so long (he'd left like 2 hours before), he held out a ring box and asked me to marry him.

He'd taken so long because he was getting me a ring at the arcade in the mall, a little toy one as a placeholder because we were so broke (we were 21 at the time). I still have it and it's so adorable.

/bought a ring together the next week; it cost $100 and had the tiniest diamond
//didn't care
///still married; 13 years together this September
 
2014-02-05 11:36:22 AM
After my fiance said an enthusiastic yes to my proposal (fancy restaurant, jazz band playing, very romantic) she said "I hope you didn't spend a lot of money on this."

That's when I knew I had a keeper.

/I  didn't and she loved it more as a result.
//still looks nice (3 stone princess cut)
///it's about the relationship, and wanting to spend the rest of your life together, not a dumb ring or the fancy date (or lack of) that it was presented on.
////If she were disappointed, I'd call it off.  Even if I totally botched it, the excitement of getting married should override any disappointment over the size of the ring (if your that materialistic) or the circumstances under which i handed it over.
 
2014-02-05 11:37:30 AM

scottydoesntknow: LGToWOZfteI

And guys, if you want to do a proposal at a game, you need to A) make sure she is a BIG fan of a team and get tickets to see that team. And B) MAKE SURE YOU ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWER!


That made me sappy. Well done.
 
2014-02-05 11:38:11 AM
My fiance and I got engaged about a month ago, and his proposal plan went totally off the rails.  That made it all the more memorable.  I don't get people who think that it has to be some elaborate production with an audience and a ring the size of a doorknob.
 
2014-02-05 11:39:16 AM

Fafai: thurstonxhowell: Fafai: Yes, I wanted to spend the rest of my life with her, but I proposed marriage specifically to make her happy. It was totally about giving her what she wanted. I'm betting most of the time it is like this, as in Ant's story above. Yet we act like it's the other way around. It's pathetic.

thurstonxhowell: maybe you should look in the mirror if you want someone to blame

To blame for what? TFA is about how women expect proposals to be a certain way. Are you saying I can shoulder all of the blame for that somehow?


Try to follow our conversation. It's really only been about one idea so far. If you asked your wife or fiancee to marry you for any other reason that wanting her to say yes to that question, then you done farked up.

If you do want her to say yes, it follows that you might think of this as a romantic occasion. If you're asking by surprise, it also follows that she won't have a hand in planning it. If she doesn't have a hand in planning it and you want it to be a romantic occasion, then it follows that you should plan a romantic occasion. If you're planning a romantic occasion, it follows that you should plan something that both of you will enjoy. Therefore, if you are planning a surprise proposal, you will need to take what she wants into consideration. This isn't complicated logic.

It also doesn't have to be something terribly involved or expensive. I proposed in our apartment because we're private people and then we did what we were planning to do that day anyway as a newly engaged couple. The fact that this was simple, easy, and something that was fun for both of us goes back to the reason I wanted to marry her in the first place. If you want to marry someone with higher maintenance requirements, then you had better be happy with catering to those requirements. If you're not, why are you getting married?
 
2014-02-05 11:41:40 AM
doubled99 Would love to add snarky comment however I found myself in this exact situation a few years ago. Proposed in an intimate spot, but could tell later she wasn't happy. Confided in me hours later she didn't like the ring, and was disappointed because she wanted a big public spectacle, which I definitely wasn't into. She didn't biatch me out, but freely expressed her dismay. I had such a confused jumble of emotions I didn't really know how to react at the time.

i hope you did not end up getting married, she sounds unpleasant



Still "engaged" almost 3 years later
 
2014-02-05 11:47:25 AM
I always figured weddings happened between two people, so I'd need to find the guy first, before worrying about anything else. I never liked the cheesy, bended knee, over-the-top proposals, but, if I found the right guy, it wouldn't matter what he did or how he did it, since I would be getting the better end of the deal (in my mind, HE shouldn't think that, of course).

Boyfriend and I were best friends long before dating, and I've known he was the guy even longer before that. He was a person I knew I needed to have in my life, even if we'd only ever be friends. But, when he started asking questions about rings, I was overwhelmed and had no information to give him.

I was ordered to start looking so he'd have an idea of my tastes, which was sweet, and the search started out well enough. Then, the excitement hit me and I had a brief Jekyll and Hyde moment where I became Kim Kardasian, bordering on the obsessed. I stopped looking at rings cold turkey when I came across a thread written by a woman wanting help in telling her fiancee she wanted a better Tiffany ring than the one he gave her and over half the comments agreed.

I am the happiest when I'm with him, even if we're just watching Manchester United suck it up this season (fingers crossed for a turn around!)... why would I want to risk letting a piece of jewelry get in the way of that?

/oh, look, I wrote a novel...
 
2014-02-05 11:54:37 AM
My fiance proposed on a beach.  He had my Mom smuggle the ring from CA to FL and I had no idea it was going to happen.  It was very sweet.
 
2014-02-05 11:56:47 AM
When my husband proposed, he'd been planning a big surprise but got too nervous, so he just came into the room where I was, pulled out the box and asked me.  I had no idea it was coming, since we'd only been dating a few months.  I didn't even really look at the ring, I just said yes and put it on, and much happy private time ensued.

Much later, he told me when he'd proposed to his first wife, he'd taken her out for dinner and had the waiter slip the ring onto her dessert plate.  He said when the plate came, she looked at the ring, picked it up and stared at it for a second, wrinkled her nose and said, "What is this?" He said, "It's an engagement ring.  Will you marry me?"  She said, "Oh."  Then she ate her dessert.

/years later I told him it was the most expensive piece of jewelry I'd ever owned, and I would've been just as satisfied with something smaller.  He said, "NOW you tell me."
 
2014-02-05 12:01:14 PM

superlawyergirl: if I found the right guy, it wouldn't matter what he did or how he did it, since I would be getting the better end of the deal (in my mind, HE shouldn't think that, of course).


Exactly what I've been trying to demonstrate in the thread, right from the horse's mouth, thanks. I'm saying we need to stop all this pretending and acting--it isn't helping anyone.
 
2014-02-05 12:04:13 PM

Fafai: superlawyergirl: if I found the right guy, it wouldn't matter what he did or how he did it, since I would be getting the better end of the deal (in my mind, HE shouldn't think that, of course).

Exactly what I've been trying to demonstrate in the thread, right from the horse's mouth, thanks. I'm saying we need to stop all this pretending and acting--it isn't helping anyone.



Also, we shouldn't let kids believe in Santa Claus, or bother with fireworks on the fourth of July, and who the heck needs to celebrate birthdays?  Plus, love is just an oxytocin reaction in the brain, and religion only exists to stave off peoples' fear of death.

You must be lots of fun at parties
 
2014-02-05 12:14:45 PM

doubled99: doubled99 Would love to add snarky comment however I found myself in this exact situation a few years ago. Proposed in an intimate spot, but could tell later she wasn't happy. Confided in me hours later she didn't like the ring, and was disappointed because she wanted a big public spectacle, which I definitely wasn't into. She didn't biatch me out, but freely expressed her dismay. I had such a confused jumble of emotions I didn't really know how to react at the time.

i hope you did not end up getting married, she sounds unpleasant


Still "engaged" almost 3 years later


You should really just end it.
It's great that she's honest, but ... you're dating with a rock between you.

Seriously, if it takes you over 2 years to get married... :\
Also please don't propose to a girl, unless you're willing to get married that minute.
 
2014-02-05 12:17:13 PM
We had been ring shopping and she knew it was coming - but I had hinted that it would be on Valentine's Day. A few days before that I arranged for my brother to need me to come down to Grand Central Terminal to pick something up from him - right before the station closed for the night. I asked her to marry me in a near-empty GCT with my brother there taking pictures. She loved the proposal and a picture of it is one of the first things you see coming into our apartment.
She just wished that she wasn't wearing uggs for it!
 
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