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(Yahoo)   The Koch Brothers are funding a cartoon that exposes how corporations use political influence   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 61
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2014-02-05 08:15:19 AM
www.troll.me
 
2014-02-05 08:23:59 AM
I

what

I don't even..


What just happend...
 
2014-02-05 08:24:18 AM
The only Koch brother news I want to read from here on is Obits.
 
2014-02-05 08:25:37 AM
So, a cartoon about how the government is unfair to entrepreneurs, financed by two people who inherited their wealth and sued family members to expand their shares?

Seems legit.
 
2014-02-05 08:27:40 AM
I can't wait for the episode about political non-profits!
 
2014-02-05 08:28:44 AM
Not sure this is the right pic here, but...

cdn1.sbnation.com
 
2014-02-05 08:30:10 AM
It'll be like this movie I am sure:

static4.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2014-02-05 08:36:38 AM
www.capitolhillblue.com
I thought the Koch Brothers had been funding a cartoon to expose how corporations use political influence for quite some time already.
 
2014-02-05 08:36:42 AM
This is the fault of Liberals.
 
2014-02-05 08:39:48 AM
Man, now that is some weapons of mass derping trolling there.  That's something you just gotta take a step back from and take in the level of self absorption to fund that and not to see the irony.
 
2014-02-05 08:41:23 AM
Meet the Kronies

www.thenationalpatriot.com
 
2014-02-05 08:43:32 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Meet the Kronies

[www.thenationalpatriot.com image 683x516]


You're funny.
 
2014-02-05 08:43:57 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Meet the Kronies

[www.thenationalpatriot.com image 683x516]


Dude, you're not going to top the level of Kochiness so don't even try.  You're a B-level player running with the A-Team.  Just let it go.
 
2014-02-05 08:47:57 AM
You know, we've got this cartoon and Mike Huckabee's historical revisionist cartoon series, but it's the liberals that are supposed to be trying to indoctrinate children?

Methinks the Kochsuckers protest too much.
 
2014-02-05 08:48:48 AM

pueblonative: Man, now that is some weapons of mass derping trolling there.  That's something you just gotta take a step back from and take in the level of self absorption to fund that and not to see the irony.


It's not really irony.  It's self-interest.  When you get to a certain wealth level, government is just another hurdle to getting your way--Sure you can pull the levers to get what you want, but wouldn't it just be easier to cut out the middle man?  Why bribe a congressman when you can simply make the rules you want yourself?  Or just get rid of externally mandated rules altogether to allow you to operate in a true "free market"?

It's all find and dandy pulling the levers of power to get rich and powerful.  Once you are sufficiently rich and powerful, you don't need the institutions you are exploiting anymore, and you can exert the power yourself.

Sure, the Koch's may simply be flattering themselves, or may be blinded to realities by their political fanaticism, but the motivation seems pretty clear.
 
2014-02-05 08:48:57 AM
Seems like they're trying to deflect attention from themselves with fictional scapegoats.
 
2014-02-05 08:56:20 AM
DRINK!
 
2014-02-05 08:58:03 AM
So the guys who own the Republican party are putting out a cartoon decrying corporate influence in government?  That's rich.
 
2014-02-05 08:58:49 AM

Alphax: Seems like they're trying to deflect attention from themselves with fictional scapegoats.


It's tragic, really - the one thing they crave can't be bought at any price.
 
2014-02-05 08:58:52 AM
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-05 09:00:14 AM
One of those things that the populist left and the individualist right wrap back around on is that well-heeled corporations have been playing small business owners like a song. I'm for this idea, it's clever and maybe it might do a little good.
 
2014-02-05 09:01:50 AM
How does the saying go? "He who dies with the most money wins"  That's it, right?
 
2014-02-05 09:02:40 AM
What.
 
2014-02-05 09:03:08 AM
Sounds kind of like the guy who made the cartoon took the Koch brother's money, then did whatever the fark he wanted with it. If that's the case, kudos to him. Otherwise it makes about as much sense as a cartoon about Ayn Rand, Leon Trotsky and George Orwell fighting crime.
 
2014-02-05 09:03:57 AM

Gestalt: One of those things that the populist left and the individualist right wrap back around on is that well-heeled corporations have been playing small business owners like a song. I'm for this idea, it's clever and maybe it might do a little good.


And if there's one thing that Charlie and Davey care about it's the little guy!
 
2014-02-05 09:08:24 AM
"We would have bought the White House and the Senate too if it weren't for those meddling kids!"

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2014-02-05 09:12:28 AM

Skleenar: pueblonative: Man, now that is some weapons of mass derping trolling there.  That's something you just gotta take a step back from and take in the level of self absorption to fund that and not to see the irony.

It's not really irony.  It's self-interest.  When you get to a certain wealth level, government is just another hurdle to getting your way--Sure you can pull the levers to get what you want, but wouldn't it just be easier to cut out the middle man?  Why bribe a congressman when you can simply make the rules you want yourself?  Or just get rid of externally mandated rules altogether to allow you to operate in a true "free market"?

It's all find and dandy pulling the levers of power to get rich and powerful.  Once you are sufficiently rich and powerful, you don't need the institutions you are exploiting anymore, and you can exert the power yourself.

Sure, the Koch's may simply be flattering themselves, or may be blinded to realities by their political fanaticism, but the motivation seems pretty clear.


This is only about 50% as cynical as it needs to be.

To see the world as it truly is, you need to dial that cynicism up to 11.

See, the way it really works is that the rich and powerful CREATE the government apparatus, in order to expand and entrench their wealth and power. It starts with conquering, and eventually settles into basic feudalism.

Then, the ruling caste hires a priestly caste (which until about 100 years ago were actual priests, but now are called "the media"), which exists to promulgate an elaborate deception -- to convince the livestock that their rulers are benevolent and responsive and generally necessary to protect them from vague evils.

Without the lies, the slave caste would realize that the ruling caste are just oppressors. So, the oppressors spend a LOT of time and energy convincing people that government exists for the slaves' benefit.

Sort of like the lies you were regurgitating, just now.

No one in the ruling caste will help you. They may buy your compliance and enthusiasm for your servitude, for a few pennies, but only to the extent that it's cheaper than just enslaving you outright.
 
2014-02-05 09:17:43 AM

Phinn: Without the lies, the slave caste would realize that the ruling caste are just oppressors. So, the oppressors spend a LOT of time and energy convincing people that government exists for the slaves' benefit.

Sort of like the lies you were regurgitating, just now.


Right.  We should just get rid of government altogether, and then we can rely on the benevolence of our Kochian overlords to help us.
 
2014-02-05 09:21:57 AM

Zeb Hesselgresser: Meet the Kronies

[www.thenationalpatriot.com image 683x516]


I heard about that stuff. It makes your butthole leak.
 
2014-02-05 09:24:34 AM

LectertheChef: Sounds kind of like the guy who made the cartoon took the Koch brother's money, then did whatever the fark he wanted with it. If that's the case, kudos to him. Otherwise it makes about as much sense as a cartoon about Ayn Rand, Leon Trotsky and George Orwell fighting crime.


Ayn Rand, Leon Trotsky, and George Orwell fighting crime? Why does that sound hilariously awesome?
 
2014-02-05 09:27:14 AM
I'm just a bill,
Yes I'm only a bill
That was written by some corporate shill.....
 
2014-02-05 09:30:53 AM

Richard C Stanford: LectertheChef: Sounds kind of like the guy who made the cartoon took the Koch brother's money, then did whatever the fark he wanted with it. If that's the case, kudos to him. Otherwise it makes about as much sense as a cartoon about Ayn Rand, Leon Trotsky and George Orwell fighting crime.

Ayn Rand, Leon Trotsky, and George Orwell fighting crime? Why does that sound hilariously awesome?


Karl's Ayngels?

... make it involve a giant gestalt robot vehicle and I'm sold.
 
2014-02-05 09:40:56 AM

Frank N Stein: DRINK!


If all you're bringing to the party is weak sauce, don't even bother. It's a waste of your time and ours.
 
2014-02-05 09:42:26 AM

BMulligan: Frank N Stein: DRINK!

If all you're bringing to the party is weak sauce, don't even bother. It's a waste of your time and ours.


SOROS!!

Take THAT, Libertardo!!
 
2014-02-05 09:52:58 AM
My brain can't handle this level of irony. This is irony no mortal man can endure.
 
2014-02-05 09:56:52 AM

Pants full of macaroni!!: I'm just a bill,
Yes I'm only a bill
That was written by some corporate shill.....


Time to repost the ALEC parody of I'm just a bill
 
2014-02-05 10:01:03 AM

LectertheChef: a cartoon about Ayn Rand, Leon Trotsky and George Orwell fighting crime.


Can I haz?  I wants that.
 
2014-02-05 10:11:13 AM
So let's see, the groups responsible for influence peddling and rent seeking are:

- Agriculture
- Military Contractors
- Monopolies (particularly Labor Unions)
- Bankers
- The Government

That's actually a surprisingly balanced list for the most part, but I can't help but notice that none of these groups represent the energy industry. You know: the people who got caught provided Department of the Interior employees hookers and blow within the last decade in exchange for contracts in what may have been the most naked federal corruption case since the Teapot Dome scandal?

Why didn't the Koch's think to include energy companies in their list of rent-seeking industries? I guess we'll never know.
 
2014-02-05 10:35:23 AM

stoli n coke: So, a cartoon about how the government is unfair to entrepreneurs, financed by two people who inherited their wealth and sued family members to expand their shares?

Seems legit.


And rigged an election in Wisconsin to install a governor who would sell them public resources at prices far below fair market value (and further weaken unions in general while they try to bust the miner's unions  in their extensive coal-mining operations)  and who pay for Republican Congressmen to try to scuttle new EPA regulations that would make coal less desirable as a power-plant fuel...AND...who fund an annual conference of billionaires who meet to plot a coordinated strategy to elect only people who refuses to raise taxes on the top 1%...etc etc
 
2014-02-05 10:35:56 AM
Let me guess: the evil organization trying to take over the world is named AKORN.

DNWTFV
 
2014-02-05 10:38:25 AM
Green Eggs and Ham irony alert
 
2014-02-05 10:49:29 AM

stuhayes2010: It'll be like this movie I am sure:

[static4.wikia.nocookie.net image 363x207]


And, you've actually SEEN the clips, right? You're not just some dipshiat waste of DNA making commentary without first taking a look, right?
 
2014-02-05 10:50:05 AM
So, therefore, since the Kochs fund it, this means that cronyism and influence peddling are now GOOD things according to the left?
 
2014-02-05 11:01:10 AM

Silly_Sot: So, therefore, since the Kochs fund it, this means that cronyism and influence peddling are now GOOD things according to the left?


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2014-02-05 11:15:49 AM
Koch Bros have consistently made more money under Democratic administrations. It would be amusing if they wised up and realized this and reversed their donation pattern. But I doubt it, facts have no place in their world view. So, The Liberals.
 
2014-02-05 11:18:58 AM

Silly_Sot: So, therefore, since the Kochs fund it, this means that cronyism and influence peddling are now GOOD things according to the left?


If you notice my comment, their industry is somehow absent from the league of evil people involved in cronyism and influence peddling. They're willing to throw bankers and military contractors under the bus with unions and the government itself (agriculture is a weird hybrid where it's hard to judge Big Corn as being primarily a left-wing or right-wing entity), but none of those categories include energy companies, who have one of the worst records of blatantly trying to influence policy making either in public or behind closed doors.

I'm honestly surprised that environmentalists weren't treated as cronies too considering how much the energy industry loves to point to government research grants that prove pumping stuff out of the ground, burning it, and then releasing the waste into the environment is a bad thing as if that shows that anyone willing to say that in a research project is obviously motivated by greed to score a grant.
 
2014-02-05 11:25:00 AM
I had their dad's book "A Business Man Looks at Communism," in which he warns readers about the people that made him rich.
 
2014-02-05 11:52:15 AM

pueblonative: Zeb Hesselgresser: Meet the Kronies

[www.thenationalpatriot.com image 683x516]

Dude, you're not going to top the level of Kochiness so don't even try.  You're a B-level player running with the A-Team.  Just let it go.



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The B-Team
 
2014-02-05 12:16:12 PM
Sometimes I wonder about the psychology of these guys.  They're already richer than the vast multitudes, they already have far more money than they could reasonably spend in a hundred lifetimes, yet they splurge and splurge to gain more influence and power.  They're tireless.

I can only guess there's some powerful sense of failure and guilt inside them, the knowledge that they were born into great wealth and privilege, and it drives them bonkers that they're frauds.  But instead of doing a Scrooge at the end of A Christmas Carol, they work tirelessly to make the world a far worse place.
 
2014-02-05 12:40:11 PM

IRONY != HYPOCRISY

 
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