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2014-02-05 08:30:12 AM
BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.
 
2014-02-05 08:30:17 AM
And in a normal day, your body naturally sheds .06 or more of your BMI. BFD.
 
2014-02-05 08:32:11 AM
So eating food and carrying it inside of you increases your BMI?  I'm guessing standing on the scale with burger and fries in your hands would increase your total weight as well, hmmm
 
2014-02-05 08:33:19 AM
Count the calories and stop when you have too much and you can eat whatever you want without being fat.

Man loses 37 pounds by eating exclusively at McDonald's for 90 days
 
2014-02-05 08:37:22 AM
You'd think the shiats later in the evening would even it out.
 
2014-02-05 08:38:04 AM

threefeetoffun: I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale.


You sound fat.
 
2014-02-05 08:42:25 AM
So I guess these people don't exercise.
 
2014-02-05 08:46:17 AM
So after after eating at Five Guys do you measure the BMI in Rhode Islands?

/or is it swimming pools?
 
2014-02-05 08:48:49 AM
It cannot be. The paragons of fitness on Fark here say that they simultaneously vomit and shiat uncontrollably for hours after consuming fast food.
 
2014-02-05 08:52:43 AM

Fano: It cannot be. The paragons of fitness on Fark here say that they simultaneously vomit and shiat uncontrollably for hours after consuming fast food.


That's because Fark is largely inhabited by liberal vegans with peanut, shellfish, and oxygen allergies that want to force their so-called "healthy" lifestyle on the rest of the world so that we, too, can experience the wonder of ObamaCare in lieu of a real immune system.
 
2014-02-05 08:58:02 AM
memberfiles.freewebs.com

Did someone say Big Mac?
 
2014-02-05 09:00:31 AM

mutterfark: So after after eating at Five Guys do you measure the BMI in Rhode Islands?

/or is it swimming pools?


Blue whales
 
2014-02-05 09:00:33 AM
www.foodfacts.info
 
2014-02-05 09:02:03 AM
Obviously most fast food isn't good for you, but this calculation is silly. If you only eat birthday cake once a year, and your BMI has increased by 2.5 in the past 5 years, that doesn't mean every piece of birthday cake  increases your BMI by .5.
 
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2014-02-05 09:06:15 AM
No it doesn't.

next.......
 
2014-02-05 09:12:07 AM

Feepit: Fano: It cannot be. The paragons of fitness on Fark here say that they simultaneously vomit and shiat uncontrollably for hours after consuming fast food.

That's because Fark is largely inhabited by liberal vegans with peanut, shellfish, and oxygen allergies that want to force their so-called "healthy" lifestyle on the rest of the world so that we, too, can experience the wonder of ObamaCare in lieu of a real immune system.


Whoa, there, son, let's dial that back a bit. I know it's too early for some really good threads in the Politics tab to shiat on, but you gotta ease into these things. Mainpage derping isn't for everyone.
 
2014-02-05 09:17:51 AM

anwserman: So eating food and carrying it inside of you increases your BMI?  I'm guessing standing on the scale with burger and fries in your hands would increase your total weight as well, hmmm


All the sodium and carbs will make you retain water for a while too.
 
2014-02-05 09:37:11 AM
Ridiculous. They're just taking two data trends and implying causation without considering that other factors (increase in consumption of highly processed food, larger portions, reduced physical activity, etc) may be a factor.

Before I became a vegetarian about 3.5 years ago, I ate fast food every day and yeah, I was getting tubby. By switching my diet, I couldn't eat much fast food anymore (since even the salads at many quick-service restaurants have meat in them), but I didn't see much in the way of immediate health benefits. In fact, I put on an extra 5 pounds.

When I decided to lose that weight, I had to do it the old-fashioned way: adjusting my diet to include fewer processed foods, watching my portion sizes, eliminating sugary drinks and engaging in moderate daily exercise. And I was surprised to learn that many things I often made for myself at home (pasta dishes, sandwiches, etc) weren't that much better for me than eating a hamburger would have been, even with a moderately-sized portion.

I was also surprised to learn that fast food can be calorically fine if you cut out the french fries and the regular soda. Replace those with a side salad with light dressing and a diet soda or cup of water to go with your fast food entree and you've actually got a somewhat nutritious meal.

Fast food gets blamed for obesity, but the real problem is portions, lifestyle and psychology. Heavily processed food tastes good and doesn't make you feel full right away, so you tend to eat more of it. Much of it has a high glycemic index, triggering your insulin reaction and resulting in your body storing the calories as fat. Fat is a good thing if you're active; it gives you spare energy to burn. But if you're inactive, it over-accumulates and leads to all of the health problems people are developing.

Simple solution: enjoy what you eat, but eat less of what you enjoy, give yourself time to feel full and, if you need to take the edge off, add on a side of nuts (which are proven to reduce satiety and which provide much-needed protein). And then walk it all off when you're done.
 
2014-02-05 09:54:14 AM
Is this increase permanent? Or is there something you can do about it?
 
2014-02-05 10:05:58 AM

Nurglitch: You'd think the shiats later in the evening would even it out.


Oh god. I had a big mac last night, woke up at 1:30 am and gave out shut a large shiat that it felt like backwards sodomy.
 
2014-02-05 10:09:32 AM
Bullshiat.  C'mon, even Morgan Spurlock wouldn't make that shiat up.
 
2014-02-05 10:19:06 AM

dragonchild: threefeetoffun: I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale.

You sound fat.


Overweight. Have to eat a few more burgers on the scale to get fat I guess.
 
2014-02-05 10:19:55 AM

mutterfark: So after after eating at Five Guys do you measure the BMI in Rhode Islands?

/or is it swimming pools?


Wouldn't that cause cramps?
 
2014-02-05 10:29:55 AM
If every fast food meal, regardless of what is in the meal, increases it by .03, I better make sure I get three Big Macs, 40 piece chicken mcnuggets, 5 orders of fries, and 4 milkshakes. It apparently is the same as a mcdouble and a diet coke
 
2014-02-05 10:40:23 AM
So what? SO farkING WHAT? I do not see the flunkies at McDonalds manning tripod-mounted machine guns to force people driving by to pull in and eat there.
 
2014-02-05 10:45:08 AM
Wow, it's like the Daily Fail isn't even trying any more.

They should have led with the equally valid statement that every .03 increase in your BMI causes you to eat an extra fast-food meal.
 
2014-02-05 10:46:28 AM
Well that sounds too stupid to be true. But it's on the Internet so it has to be true. Tough call.
 
2014-02-05 11:13:08 AM
Whereas eating at Taco Bell actually decreases your BMI by .06.
 
2014-02-05 11:22:30 AM

dragonchild: threefeetoffun: I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale.

You sound fat.


He's a Fark Bodybuilder (TM).
 
2014-02-05 11:28:02 AM
Couldn't I, I dunno, maybe MOVE!!! DO EXERCISE!!! That sort of thing, to offset any supposed increase?
 
2014-02-05 11:39:18 AM
In other news, this guy:

ringsidereport.com

apparently has a BMI of 6.02x1023
 
2014-02-05 12:13:35 PM

threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.


BMI wasn't meant to be a way to measure health. It's a statistical too.

[include standard_bmi_rant.txt]

Basically, BMI is the same as insurance charts with ages.

Statistically speaking, younger folks are more likely to be involved in car accidents. You might be a perfect considerate driver at 18, but the majority of the 18 year olds are retarded jackoffs.

Likewise

Statistically speaking, 26+ BMI folks are more likely to have weight related health problems. You might have a perfect trim muscular body, but the majority of the 26+ BMI folks are fatties.

* Basically, if someone looks at 10 people and their BMI says that they're overweight, like 9/10 people will be overweight. And the 1 person that isn't is our super muscular body building guy. That still gives an accuracy of 90%, despite the fact that it was totally wrong with the last guy.

What you're essentially doing is looking at a small percentage of exceptions, and ignoring the vast majority of the people that it's accurate for.

*) percentages pulled out of my ass, used as an example
 
2014-02-05 12:53:28 PM

secularsage: I was also surprised to learn that fast food can be calorically fine if you cut out the french fries and the regular soda. Replace those with a side salad with light dressing and a diet soda or cup of water to go with your fast food entree and you've actually got a somewhat nutritious meal.


Even then going for a small fry works quite well too. Again depending on total calorie count. A few years ago I dropped about 50 pounds in 5-6 months by reducing my portion sizes and watching my caloric intake. I was also going to the gym everyday and doing HIIT so that let me "cheat" a bit on my daily caloric intake. But cutting out sugared drinks and not overdoing it whenever I had fast food was a major contributor.

lordargent: BMI wasn't meant to be a way to measure health. It's a statistical too.

[include standard_bmi_rant.txt]

Basically, BMI is the same as insurance charts with ages.

Statistically speaking, younger folks are more likely to be involved in car accidents. You might be a perfect considerate driver at 18, but the majority of the 18 year olds are retarded jackoffs.

Likewise

Statistically speaking, 26+ BMI folks are more likely to have weight related health problems. You might have a perfect trim muscular body, but the majority of the 26+ BMI folks are fatties.

* Basically, if someone looks at 10 people and their BMI says that they're overweight, like 9/10 people will be overweight. And the 1 person that isn't is our super muscular body building guy. That still gives an accuracy of 90%, despite the fact that it was totally wrong with the last guy.

What you're essentially doing is looking at a small percentage of exceptions, and ignoring the vast majority of the people that it's accurate for.

*) percentages pulled out of my ass, used as an example


This. BMI isn't perfect but most of the people complaining about how it doesn't work for them are also just plain delusional. My BMI is 26.8. I'm tall so I carry the weight alright and no one would call me fat. But I am overweight according to BMI, and it is definitely true. I could stand to lose 20 pounds. That would put me at the very high end of normal weight but I know from experience that is right in my ideal weight range. Most people, like me, who are probably considered average in terms of weight for our body type just don't want to admit that really, we should probably lose a few pounds.
 
2014-02-05 01:16:08 PM

lordargent: threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.

BMI wasn't meant to be a way to measure health. It's a statistical too.

[include standard_bmi_rant.txt]

Basically, BMI is the same as insurance charts with ages.

Statistically speaking, younger folks are more likely to be involved in car accidents. You might be a perfect considerate driver at 18, but the majority of the 18 year olds are retarded jackoffs.

Likewise

Statistically speaking, 26+ BMI folks are more likely to have weight related health problems. You might have a perfect trim muscular body, but the majority of the 26+ BMI folks are fatties.

* Basically, if someone looks at 10 people and their BMI says that they're overweight, like 9/10 people will be overweight. And the 1 person that isn't is our super muscular body building guy. That still gives an accuracy of 90%, despite the fact that it was totally wrong with the last guy.

What you're essentially doing is looking at a small percentage of exceptions, and ignoring the vast majority of the people that it's accurate for.

*) percentages pulled out of my ass, used as an example


Yep.  BMI is flawed on the individual level----actually, it's not even flawed.  There are more  accurate ways to measure people's health with regard to their weight/fatness, like bod pod body fat content tests or physical exercise tests.  But those take quite a bit of time per person.  BMI has the advantage of only requiring height and weight information, so you can measure whole populations very quickly with widely available information.

To extend your example, you can measure and compare BMIs for large groups of people---cities, let's say, and be able to draw meaningful conclusions.  If the mean BMI for the state of Mississippi is 27 and the mean BMI for Colorado is 24, you can say pretty conclusively that Mississippians are fatter than Coloradoans.  Sure, there would be a few outliers (like the linebackers/bodybuilders everyone always talks about), but the conclusion on the state level would still be accurate.
 
2014-02-05 01:34:57 PM

lordargent: Statistically speaking, 26+ BMI folks are more likely to have weight related health problems. You might have a perfect trim muscular body, but the majority of the 26+ BMI folks are fatties.

* Basically, if someone looks at 10 people and their BMI says that they're overweight, like 9/10 people will be overweight. And the 1 person that isn't is our super muscular body building guy. That still gives an accuracy of 90%, despite the fact that it was totally wrong with the last guy.

What you're essentially doing is looking at a small percentage of exceptions, and ignoring the vast majority of the people that it's accurate for.

*) percentages pulled out of my ass, used as an example


BMI actually underestimates adiposity compared to body fat.

upload.wikimedia.org
The data points above the line are regions of high body fat where BMI says things are just fine. The data points below the line are regions where body fat is fine but BMI suggests one is overweight / obese.

Note that there are way more data points above the line. Statistically, BMI underestimates how overweight a population is.

The sparse points in the far lower right (low body fat, high BMI) are bodybuilders. This is, coincidentally, where most of Fark's posting population resides.
 
2014-02-05 01:40:39 PM

furiousxgeorge: Man loses 37 pounds by eating exclusively at McDonald's for 90 days


I eat at McDonald's (salads and grilled chicken wraps) five days a week and my waist is 28" smaller than it was three years ago. As much as people biatch about fast food, I give McDonald's a lot of credit for at least offering some healthy options.
 
2014-02-05 01:46:05 PM

BKITU: In other news, this guy:

[ringsidereport.com image 207x244]

apparently has a BMI of 6.02x1023


That's a mole lotta burgers... i wonder if he got the Avogadro-ranch dipping sauce?

/chemist fist-bump
 
2014-02-05 01:48:15 PM

entropic_existence: This. BMI isn't perfect but most of the people complaining about how it doesn't work for them are also just plain delusional. My BMI is 26.8. I'm tall so I carry the weight alright and no one would call me fat. But I am overweight according to BMI, and it is definitely true. I could stand to lose 20 pounds. That would put me at the very high end of normal weight but I know from experience that is right in my ideal weight range. Most people, like me, who are probably considered average in terms of weight for our body type just don't want to admit that really, we should probably lose a few pounds.


I get a kick out of people who have BMI's of 45 or 50 complaining that the "BMI is not accurate!!!". Because apparently there's some question as to whether or not they should be considered "obese".
 
2014-02-05 02:04:00 PM
likefunbutnot: I eat at McDonald's (salads and grilled chicken wraps) five days a week and my waist is 28" smaller than it was three years ago. As much as people biatch about fast food, I give McDonald's a lot of credit for at least offering some healthy options.

My philosophy is that there are no such things as "healthy" or "unhealthy" foods, just healthy/unhealthy diets and lifestyles.

It's all about finding the proper balance between intake and burn, while getting the nutrients that are needed.

// that jumbo burger is so "unhealthy", yeah? Unhealthy to whoom? Someone who does 6+ mile hikes every other weekend? Or someone that sits at a computer desk all day either working or playing video games?
 
2014-02-05 02:29:56 PM

threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.


This

According to his doctor, my 8 yo nephew is obese because numbers

The kid plays hockey year round. He goes to the rink almost daily for personalized coaching. He's solid muscle, but because of height and weight numbers, he's "obese"

My nephew now has a new doctor
 
2014-02-05 02:53:25 PM
Every fast food meal raises the Owner's body money index by .03. BMI to be renamed Big Mac Miracle.  its a miracle we can sell this sh*t as 'food' in america, and get away with it.
 
2014-02-05 03:20:50 PM

GRCooper: threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.

This

According to his doctor, my 8 yo nephew is obese because numbers

The kid plays hockey year round. He goes to the rink almost daily for personalized coaching. He's solid muscle, but because of height and weight numbers, he's "obese"

My nephew now has a new doctor


Great, another brilliant example where people point to a [supposed] outlier to discredit the bulk of the data.
 
2014-02-05 03:26:25 PM

threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.


So what's your BF%?  Mine's 15%.  I also have 10% more muscle than the average male my age and height.
 
2014-02-05 03:28:51 PM

Fonaibung: GRCooper: threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.

This

According to his doctor, my 8 yo nephew is obese because numbers

The kid plays hockey year round. He goes to the rink almost daily for personalized coaching. He's solid muscle, but because of height and weight numbers, he's "obese"

My nephew now has a new doctor

Great, another brilliant example where people point to a [supposed] outlier to discredit the bulk of the data.


Great, another brilliant example of someone who thinks the bulk of data means that every circumstance should be judged solely on that data.

/like the kid's doctor
 
2014-02-05 03:28:54 PM

Fonaibung: GRCooper: threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.

This

According to his doctor, my 8 yo nephew is obese because numbers

The kid plays hockey year round. He goes to the rink almost daily for personalized coaching. He's solid muscle, but because of height and weight numbers, he's "obese"

My nephew now has a new doctor

Great, another brilliant example where people point to a [supposed] outlier to discredit the bulk of the data.


I bet you're the type to cry and cry about global warming when it's freezing cold outside my office right now.
 
2014-02-05 03:32:46 PM

FLMountainMan: Fonaibung: Great, another brilliant example where people point to a [supposed] outlier to discredit the bulk of the data.

I bet you're the type to cry and cry about global warming when it's freezing cold outside my office right now.


Ha!

GRCooper: Great, another brilliant example of someone who thinks the bulk of data means that every circumstance should be judged solely on that data.


No, just responding to the way you agreed with "BMI is an awful way to measure health" because you know a supposed exception. But good job on responding to an argument I didn't make.
 
2014-02-05 03:35:44 PM
I'm underweight according to BMI and I eat fast food all the time. :/
 
2014-02-05 03:37:26 PM

Shazam999: threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.

So what's your BF%?  Mine's 15%.  I also have 10% more muscle than the average male my age and height.


Caliber test and body fat scale put me between 14%-16.5% and I am 175. If I got down to 164 which is the max BMI for my 5'8 height then I would either have to lose muscle or be at 9-10% body fat. I'll start working on this when I go to the gym in 26 minutes.
 
2014-02-05 03:44:50 PM

threefeetoffun: Shazam999: threefeetoffun: BMI is an awful way to measure health. I am 26.8 and overweight on that scale. Doesnt take in actual body composition.

So what's your BF%?  Mine's 15%.  I also have 10% more muscle than the average male my age and height.

Caliber test and body fat scale put me between 14%-16.5% and I am 175. If I got down to 164 which is the max BMI for my 5'8 height then I would either have to lose muscle or be at 9-10% body fat. I'll start working on this when I go to the gym in 26 minutes.


You are one of a small segment of the population that should be ignoring BMI, then. For the rest, BMI is a great way to measure health.

Good job, by the way. I'm at 18% body fat, 185 lbs, at 6'. I lift 5-6 days a week, cardio 2-3 days a week, and eat healthy. I am still overweight. I'm getting down where I should be, though.

I'm expecting someone to start posting pictures of Lee Haney and Ronnie Coleman, because we all know most people with a BMI of 35 look like that.
 
2014-02-05 03:48:22 PM

Fonaibung: No, just responding to the way you agreed with "BMI is an awful way to measure health" because you know a supposed exception. But good job on responding to an argument I didn't make.


Really?

You're not very bright, are you?
 
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