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(CNN)   Showing the speed and efficiency the NYPD is known for when confronted with any OD death in their city, four arrests made linked to Phillip Seymour Hoffman's heroin stash   (cnn.com) divider line 113
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2014-02-05 06:55:52 AM
ProTip: Don't sell drugs to celebrities.
 
2014-02-05 07:00:15 AM
Wasn't me.

I wasn't even in NYC last week.
 
2014-02-05 07:16:24 AM
Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win
 
2014-02-05 07:16:38 AM
They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron
 
2014-02-05 07:18:01 AM
The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die
 
2014-02-05 07:23:36 AM

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


Pretty much this.
 
2014-02-05 07:24:26 AM

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


FTFY
 
2014-02-05 07:26:55 AM

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


Yep. Or is subby implying that we're supposed to be mad that smack dealers get arrested?
 
2014-02-05 07:30:43 AM

stoli n coke: styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron

Yep. Or is subby implying that we're supposed to be mad that smack dealers get arrested?


Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. This junkie Farker should out themselves.
 
2014-02-05 07:31:56 AM
jetsnation.ca
I can't believe I read all of that.
 
2014-02-05 07:32:28 AM

scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win


People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.
 
2014-02-05 07:38:49 AM

way south: scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win

People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.



Doubtful the arrests were random. Hoffman was rich, and either he or more likely his assistant probably had his dealer's cell and home phone number on file. After he died, the assistant doesn't want to go to jail on a negligent homicide charge for getting him the drugs, so the assistant gives up the numbers and the name of the dealer.

Not rocket surgery, people.
 
2014-02-05 07:46:59 AM

TheHighlandHowler: ProTip: Don't sell drugs to celebrities.


They had two days notice that there was a video of them handing a messenger bag to SPH. Assuming that the people arrested are those in the vid.... And that they got caught with more than 300 bags if heroin....

Pro tip: dispose of or have someone hold or hide your heroin and lay low if you know the cops have you on video and are closing on you.
 
2014-02-05 07:47:07 AM
Some of us are more equal than others
 
2014-02-05 07:50:33 AM

stirfrybry: Some of us are more equal than others


Wow, way to notice.  I think it's only been that way since the beginning of mankind.  Why would anyone be surprised by this?
 
2014-02-05 07:58:53 AM

stirfrybry: Some of us are more equal than others


So what is your solution? Not arrest anyone in this case until everything is all fairsees?

BTW, police arrest dealers all the time. They just don't make national news unless they're either someone at the top of the drug trade or they're connected to a high-profile person.
 
2014-02-05 07:59:44 AM
He died doing what he loved.
 
2014-02-05 08:01:58 AM
I've seen the needle and the damage done.
 
2014-02-05 08:09:46 AM
The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.

It looks to me like a ban is an exercise in utter futility.
 
2014-02-05 08:11:58 AM
heroin is one of those self-fixing problems

I would like to start a free dirty needle program to help speed up the darwinism
 
2014-02-05 08:22:19 AM
Too much horse power to handle.
 
2014-02-05 08:24:29 AM

Ooba Tooba: The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die


Goddamn! I said Goddamn the pusher man...
 
2014-02-05 08:26:35 AM

Wolf892: Heroin is bad, but if you add an "e" to the end you get "heroine" which is good, unless that heroine is Kristen Stewart...which is bad.


But it comes with a free frogurt.
 
2014-02-05 08:33:36 AM
Leads? Yeah, I guess they had their best detectives on it. They got them working in shifts.

/yes they arrest dealers all the time...they'd hardly be searching for these guys if some no name had offed themselves
 
2014-02-05 08:51:39 AM

Marcus Aurelius: The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.

It looks to me like a ban is an exercise in utter futility.


I think you mean opiates, which is a slightly easier argument to make.  Tons of things are opiods, including Immodium.  Yes, Immodium, the thing you take to stop the runs, is an opiod.  Don't really hear about much Immodium abuse now do you?

It's still pants on head retarded though, because without morphine and its wonderful relatives recovery from surgery is literally torture.  Also if opiates were banned, anyone who has ever had a kidney stone would probably band together in one groaning group hobbling along with torches and pitchforks and destroy the DEA as a whole.  Seriously, try getting through that kind of pain without an opiate in your system; not gonna happen.
 
2014-02-05 08:59:20 AM
I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.
 
2014-02-05 09:04:40 AM

Marcus Aurelius: The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.


Well of course they did.  With weed on the way to legalization they have to do *something* to justify their jobs.
 
2014-02-05 09:10:03 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.


I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.
 
2014-02-05 09:11:13 AM

ristst: Marcus Aurelius: The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.

Well of course they did.  With weed on the way to legalization they have to do *something* to justify their jobs.


Hey, there's always meth. Always.
 
2014-02-05 09:11:59 AM

Ooba Tooba: The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die


Heh....what a 60s term...!

I recall in 1970, TV Guide (yes, TV Guide!) ran an article "How to recognize a drug addict", with an illustration of a long-haired addict.  It had pointers indicating the telling attributes...sunglasses at night, long sleeves in warm weather (to hide needle tracks), things like that.

/was in a band that did a gig with Steppenwolf in a large club in Tennessee.
//Goldie McJohn was toasted.  And his girlfriend was flirting around the room, so he got on the mic and yelled "hey if anybody wants to get laid, my girlfriend is lookin' for some DIIIIIIIIIICK!"
 
2014-02-05 09:12:15 AM
He was a millionaire in (what should have been) the prime of his life.He had it all. His lovely wife had taken their three young children to the park on a nice day.

Instead of joining them and giving his kids the memory of dad pushing them on the swings, he decided to leave them with the memory of that day being getting the news that their dads bloated corpse had been found sitting in his own shiat with a needle in his arm.

Fark that selfish piece of shiat.
 
2014-02-05 09:16:51 AM
Now that they arrested these guys, I am sure the heroin epidemic will come to a quick and sudden halt.
 
2014-02-05 09:18:15 AM

RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.


Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.
 
2014-02-05 09:18:49 AM

stoli n coke: Wolf892: Heroin is bad, but if you add an "e" to the end you get "heroine" which is good, unless that heroine is Kristen Stewart...which is bad.

But it comes with a free frogurt.


That's good.
 
2014-02-05 09:19:48 AM

grunthos: He was a millionaire in (what should have been) the prime of his life.He had it all. His lovely wife had taken their three young children to the park on a nice day.

Instead of joining them and giving his kids the memory of dad pushing them on the swings, he decided to leave them with the memory of that day being getting the news that their dads bloated corpse had been found sitting in his own shiat with a needle in his arm.

Fark that selfish piece of shiat.



He wasn't living with his family anymore. He was supposed to meet them for visitation.
This wasn't an upstanding family man. This was a depressed addict who, after 23 years of sobriety, fell off the wagon, fell hard, and lost everything.
 
2014-02-05 09:20:52 AM
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-05 09:21:50 AM

RussianPooper: I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.


I'm not gonna disagree with you, a lot of people that tout their abstinence are judgmental. In reality it's not quite so cut and dry.  People get addicted to nasal spray for cryin' out loud.

Nevertheless, heroin is just one of those things that everyone...*everyone*...knows is incredibly, dangerously addictive.  If a person is using it, they went into that situation fully aware of the risks.

Regardless of the reasons, it's just not a good idea to mess around with the stuff.
 
2014-02-05 09:24:38 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.


Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.
 
2014-02-05 09:38:55 AM
Some are more equal than others i guess, like the illegal 19yr old drunk driver that got 250 community service for killing 2 kids.... good times.
Equal under the law? I think not.
 
2014-02-05 09:42:05 AM

lewismarktwo: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.


Lolwut? Other than being ITG what the hell does this even mean?
 
2014-02-05 09:45:34 AM

lewismarktwo: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.


No, you couldn't.  Ye Gods!  I didn't realize how dangerous this heroin epidemic was.  It's a miracle that I'm not an addict!  I mean, since it's nobody's fault for doing it, being that we have no free will and all...
 
2014-02-05 09:52:10 AM

Semper IvXx: Lolwut? Other than being ITG what the hell does this even mean?


In The Groove?
Internet Tough Guy?
It's Too Gruesome?

I even searched the interwebs and got no definitive answer.
 
2014-02-05 09:53:23 AM

stoli n coke: way south: scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win

People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.


Doubtful the arrests were random. Hoffman was rich, and either he or more likely his assistant probably had his dealer's cell and home phone number on file. After he died, the assistant doesn't want to go to jail on a negligent homicide charge for getting him the drugs, so the assistant gives up the numbers and the name of the dealer.

Not rocket surgery, people.


Good theory, but records have him pulling nearly ~$1200 from multiple ATMs that day (morning before? something.) and on security cameras chatting up certain bike messengers.

From TFA:

"On Tuesday, a law enforcement source told CNN that the night before Hoffman died, he withdrew $1,200 from a grocery store ATM near his apartment.
Hoffman got the money in six transactions Saturday night, according to the source."


Not that I can project that this guy was in any way noble in the process, but he most likely was ashamed of his habit, and didn't put anyone else up to doing his dirty work.

I just don't see him as the narcissist that would send his assistant to fetch for him. This was his personal demon.

I've unfortunately been around drug culture all my life, and the two most wasteful drugs I have ever witnessed in "action" was crack and heroin. Meth is a close 3rd, but it takes its time.

Heroin steals your soul, and takes the brain hostage to its next adventure. I'm not religious in any capacity but if I believed in the Devil, heroin would be his most formidable "magic".
 
2014-02-05 09:54:17 AM

styckx: T

hey make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron Tyrion
 
2014-02-05 10:10:00 AM

mcmnky: styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron Tyrion


I think they do, a Lannister always pays their debts
 
2014-02-05 10:13:56 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.


So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.
 
2014-02-05 10:15:32 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.


You should at least be grateful for the fact that you are unable to comprehend what it means to be an addict. That much is clear.
 
2014-02-05 10:29:23 AM

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyrion


s3.amazonaws.com

Goddamn it! Thanks for spoiling Season 4, asshole

/RIP Halfman
 
2014-02-05 10:37:58 AM

RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.


Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.
 
2014-02-05 10:42:44 AM

ristst: Nevertheless, heroin is just one of those things that everyone...*everyone*...knows is incredibly, dangerously addictive. If a person is using it, they went into that situation fully aware of the risks.


Everyone knows that a sedentary lifestyle and a diet of chili cheese fries and pepsi will kill you, too. It's still normal to be sad when it does.
 
2014-02-05 10:45:32 AM
We should invade the country that all this heroin is coming from.
 
2014-02-05 10:45:44 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.

Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.


It must be very easy to be you. I would imagine it's comforting to live within such a simple template.
 
2014-02-05 10:46:54 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper:

So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.

Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.



There is a whole cross-section of normal, productive members of society that became addicted to legal, prescribed painkillers.  Laws changed and many of those legitimate prescriptions from pain clinics were cut off, and those addicted people were left with no support.

It's not as simple as just "quitting" for those people, and they were doing what a doctor told them to do. We've been taught as a culture to trust doctors because they know better than us.

Those people didn't say "I'm going to become a farking junkie today" and just start using needles. You don't understand that though, and you're not interested in hearing the uncomfortable truth that has become reality in our society.

You're an ignorant moron with a myopic world view, who thinks you know how the world works. fark you.
 
2014-02-05 10:52:04 AM
LOL.  I have a twisted world view that people are stupid to do lethal drugs.  I must be high myself!
 
2014-02-05 10:57:13 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: LOL.  I have a twisted world view that people are stupid to do lethal drugs.  I must be high myself!


Better pray you never get in an serious accident or require a surgery that requires prescription narcotics.

When you talk to people who use heroin today, almost all of them will tell you that their opioid addiction began with exposure to painkillers, says Dr. Andrew Kolodny, chief medical officer for the Phoenix House Foundation and president of Physicians for Responsible Opioid Prescribing.

Kolodny says the statistics are stark. Areas with the highest rates of opioid or heroin addiction are often wealthier areas, where people have more access to medical care.


http://www.wbur.org/npr/271591524/spike-in-heroin-use-can-be-traced- to -prescription-pads
 
2014-02-05 10:59:19 AM
There is no apologizing in Internet, but I also was more harsh than necessary with my earlier response. It's unreasonable for me to assume that too much about people's experiences thus far in life.
 
2014-02-05 11:00:17 AM

Pangea: Well I use Mac/Linux...: LOL.  I have a twisted world view that people are stupid to do lethal drugs.  I must be high myself!

Better pray you never get in an serious accident or require a surgery that requires prescription narcotics.

When you talk to people who use heroin today, almost all of them will tell you that their opioid addiction began with exposure to painkillers, says Dr. Andrew Kolodny, chief medical officer for the Phoenix House Foundation and president of Physicians for Responsible Opioid Prescribing.

Kolodny says the statistics are stark. Areas with the highest rates of opioid or heroin addiction are often wealthier areas, where people have more access to medical care.

http://www.wbur.org/npr/271591524/spike-in-heroin-use-can-be-traced- to -prescription-pads



Better get him some binoculars so he can read that article from way up on his pedestal.
 
2014-02-05 11:02:29 AM

devildog123: stirfrybry: Some of us are more equal than others

Wow, way to notice.  I think it's only been that way since the beginning of mankind.  Why would anyone be surprised by this?


Why would anyone be complacent about it.
 
2014-02-05 11:04:07 AM

Pangea: There is no apologizing in Internet, but I also was more harsh than necessary with my earlier response. It's unreasonable for me to assume that too much about people's experiences thus far in life.


No worries.
 
2014-02-05 11:06:36 AM

someonelse: ristst: Nevertheless, heroin is just one of those things that everyone...*everyone*...knows is incredibly, dangerously addictive. If a person is using it, they went into that situation fully aware of the risks.

Everyone knows that a sedentary lifestyle and a diet of chili cheese fries and pepsi will kill you, too. It's still normal to be sad when it does.


I never said "fark him, he deserved it".  Merely that in the information age we exist in, NO ONE can say truthfully they are unaware of the dangers related to heroin.

/lots of farkers *have* said "fark him, he deserved it"...please go chide them
 
2014-02-05 11:15:22 AM
For the record, I agree that Phil Hoffman is an idiot because he found recovery and lived it for over 20 years.

He knew the risks and he took them anyway.

I mostly feel bad for everyday Americans who are being prescribed into addiction by our infallible pharmaceutical industry. That's the true nightmare and this problem is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Until we can develop a sensible treatment program and reduce the stigma associated with being an addict, many lives will be ruined.
 
2014-02-05 11:23:49 AM

Tsar_Bomba1: [i.imgur.com image 640x640]


chirho.me

 
2014-02-05 11:31:44 AM

Tsar_Bomba1:


Ha!!!!
 
2014-02-05 11:35:55 AM
All I have to say on the subject is that from what I have read he suffered with this addiction since college age.  That's a kid in my book.  He has stated in interviews that he was scared he would die.  The world didn't just lose an American actor.  He was currently the best American actor.  That is what makes me sad.
 
2014-02-05 11:46:54 AM

Pangea: For the record, I agree that Phil Hoffman is an idiot because he found recovery and lived it for over 20 years.

He knew the risks and he took them anyway.

I mostly feel bad for everyday Americans who are being prescribed into addiction by our infallible pharmaceutical industry. That's the true nightmare and this problem is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

Until we can develop a sensible treatment program and reduce the stigma associated with being an addict, many lives will be ruined.


I think that is a good point. I believe the "addiction is a disease" only insofar as the addict has never been educated about it. I think once an addict has the knowledge and tools learned from going through a program that the choice to use in the future becomes a choice. Yes the craving may always be there but you know what will happen if you pick up and it is really irresponsible to do so.
 
2014-02-05 11:53:08 AM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.

Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.


What a petty, small minded person you are.

http://www.erowid.org/culture/characters/characters_drug_use.shtml
 
2014-02-05 11:54:18 AM

Tsar_Bomba1: [i.imgur.com image 640x640]


Holy cats, that's evil!  :D
 
2014-02-05 12:04:51 PM
So if we are to excuse away his drug use, shouldn't we excuse away the providers? Seems only fair.
 
2014-02-05 12:08:44 PM

Whodat: So if we are to excuse away his drug use, shouldn't we excuse away the providers? Seems only fair.


They are only being looked at because he's a celebrity.
I had a friend who, after 7 years of sobriety, thought he could have 1 more shot, and it killed him. $10 worth. I told the police who showed up exactly who sold it to him and their response was, "He was an adult, there's nothing we can do."
 
2014-02-05 12:09:19 PM

AntonChigger: styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron

Pretty much this.


Tyron was my homeboy.
 
2014-02-05 12:14:29 PM

lewismarktwo: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.


thecriticalcritics.com
 
2014-02-05 12:16:19 PM

flynn80: We should invade the country that all this heroin is coming from.


Britain?
 
2014-02-05 12:43:09 PM
Meh.

I once brought my bike into the wine shop at the corner of 70th & Amsterdam.  Left the bike in the little mud room by the cashiers, grabbed the bottle I wanted, and when i turned around, bike was gone. People from the shop pretended I was invisible when I asked if they saw anything or if we could look at their security cameras' videos.  So I called the local precinct.  They told me they were sending an unit. 30 minutes later, and nobody showing up, I waved the next police car that drove by.  When I explained what had happened, cop takes a deep breath, looks at me straight in the eye, then asks "and what the fark do you want me to do about it?", then drives off.
 
2014-02-05 12:46:39 PM
In the USA money buys justice. News at 11.

/ric romero
 
2014-02-05 12:56:47 PM

Schmoppo: Whodat: So if we are to excuse away his drug use, shouldn't we excuse away the providers? Seems only fair.

They are only being looked at because he's a celebrity.
I had a friend who, after 7 years of sobriety, thought he could have 1 more shot, and it killed him. $10 worth. I told the police who showed up exactly who sold it to him and their response was, "He was an adult, there's nothing we can do."


yep. I wonder how many people OD'd that week Hoffman offed himself. It is the same thing as when a little blond chick goes missing.

And no Loaf's Tray, you couldn't.
 
2014-02-05 12:57:20 PM
The damage is done.   BFD.
 
2014-02-05 12:59:45 PM
Investigators discovered close to 50 envelopes of what they believed was heroin in the apartment

OK, I'm gonna be right up front and admit that I know little about heroin, but ISN'T THIS A LOT OF HEROIN?
 
2014-02-05 01:03:52 PM

Mikey1969: Investigators discovered close to 50 envelopes of what they believed was heroin in the apartment

OK, I'm gonna be right up front and admit that I know little about heroin, but ISN'T THIS A LOT OF HEROIN?



They were Metric envelopes.  The conversion rate is throwing you off.
 
2014-02-05 01:08:10 PM

billiamaire: All I have to say on the subject is that from what I have read he suffered with this addiction since college age.  That's a kid in my book.  He has stated in interviews that he was scared he would die.  The world didn't just lose an American actor.  He was currently the best American actor.  That is what makes me sad.


Al Pacino died along with Robert Dinero?
 
2014-02-05 01:22:04 PM

Tsar_Bomba1: [i.imgur.com image 640x640]


What celebrity needs to die to get the Eagles a championship, Will Smith?
 
2014-02-05 01:35:32 PM

mcreadyblue: billiamaire: All I have to say on the subject is that from what I have read he suffered with this addiction since college age.  That's a kid in my book.  He has stated in interviews that he was scared he would die.  The world didn't just lose an American actor.  He was currently the best American actor.  That is what makes me sad.

Al Pacino died along with Robert Dinero?


When was the last time either one of them made a decent film? De Niro, in particular, would have to pull of a Godfather II level accomplishment in order to atone for those Fockers bullshiat festivals.
 
2014-02-05 01:43:23 PM

thurstonxhowell: mcreadyblue: billiamaire: All I have to say on the subject is that from what I have read he suffered with this addiction since college age.  That's a kid in my book.  He has stated in interviews that he was scared he would die.  The world didn't just lose an American actor.  He was currently the best American actor.  That is what makes me sad.

Al Pacino died along with Robert Dinero?

When was the last time either one of them made a decent film? De Niro, in particular, would have to pull of a Godfather II level accomplishment in order to atone for those Fockers bullshiat festivals.


Well, you might have a point there. Neither of them has been. in anything as good as Hunger Games: Catching Fire or Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part I in several years.
 
2014-02-05 01:50:17 PM

mcreadyblue: thurstonxhowell: mcreadyblue: billiamaire: All I have to say on the subject is that from what I have read he suffered with this addiction since college age.  That's a kid in my book.  He has stated in interviews that he was scared he would die.  The world didn't just lose an American actor.  He was currently the best American actor.  That is what makes me sad.

Al Pacino died along with Robert Dinero?

When was the last time either one of them made a decent film? De Niro, in particular, would have to pull of a Godfather II level accomplishment in order to atone for those Fockers bullshiat festivals.

Well, you might have a point there. Neither of them has been. in anything as good as Hunger Games: Catching Fire or Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part I in several years.


When was the last time DeNIro or Pacino were even the one bright spot in an otherwise mediocre-to-awful movie? I haven't seen "Silver Linings Playbook" yet, but still.
 
2014-02-05 01:50:45 PM

Mikey1969: Investigators discovered close to 50 envelopes of what they believed was heroin in the apartment

OK, I'm gonna be right up front and admit that I know little about heroin, but ISN'T THIS A LOT OF HEROIN?


Heroin of a potency that disabled PSH before he even withdrew the god damned needle from his arm. So, like extra double alot.

Remember folks: always check for the CONTAINS FENTANYL label before injecting heroin. It could save your life!
 
2014-02-05 01:57:20 PM

someonelse: I haven't seen "Silver Linings Playbook" yet, but still.


It's a good flick. Jennifer Lawrence got an oscar for it, I think, and Di Nero is good. Bradley Cooper is farking fantastic in it and he's also fantastic in "The Place Beyond the Pines" but all the accolades went to Ryan Gosling. Poor bastard can't seem to catch a break.
 
2014-02-05 01:59:30 PM

thurstonxhowell: mcreadyblue: billiamaire: All I have to say on the subject is that from what I have read he suffered with this addiction since college age.  That's a kid in my book.  He has stated in interviews that he was scared he would die.  The world didn't just lose an American actor.  He was currently the best American actor.  That is what makes me sad.

Al Pacino died along with Robert Dinero?

When was the last time either one of them made a decent film? De Niro, in particular, would have to pull of a Godfather II level accomplishment in order to atone for those Fockers bullshiat festivals.

Meet the Parents

was cool. They waited far too long to hit us with Meet The Fockers, and Little Fockers was so unnecessary it hurts to think about.

BafflerMeal: Mikey1969: Investigators discovered close to 50 envelopes of what they believed was heroin in the apartment

OK, I'm gonna be right up front and admit that I know little about heroin, but ISN'T THIS A LOT OF HEROIN?


They were Metric envelopes.  The conversion rate is throwing you off.


Goddam 'American Exceptionalism' in the 70's, if we had just cooperated on the whole metric thing, I wouldn't have just been schooled...
 
2014-02-05 02:11:37 PM

way south: scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win

People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.


How about blaming the 'person' responsible? Mr. Hoffman is responsible. Yes I have read how addictive heroin is and realize it is really hard to 'kick' the habit but bottom line the only person responsible here is Mr. Hoffman.
 
2014-02-05 02:12:00 PM
someonelse:When was the last time DeNIro or Pacino were even the one bright spot in an otherwise mediocre-to-awful movie? I haven't seen "Silver Linings Playbook" yet, but still.

Well, I can tell you that the heavy lifting on that movie was done by pretty much everyone else, and DeNiro's role could have been reproduced by many actors.

(Overall, I thought it was very watchable and recommend it.)
 
2014-02-05 02:50:32 PM

Joe Peanut: Meh.

I once brought my bike into the wine shop at the corner of 70th & Amsterdam.  Left the bike in the little mud room by the cashiers, grabbed the bottle I wanted, and when i turned around, bike was gone. People from the shop pretended I was invisible when I asked if they saw anything or if we could look at their security cameras' videos.  So I called the local precinct.  They told me they were sending an unit. 30 minutes later, and nobody showing up, I waved the next police car that drove by.  When I explained what had happened, cop takes a deep breath, looks at me straight in the eye, then asks "and what the fark do you want me to do about it?", then drives off.


www.doblu.com
Seems appropos...
 
2014-02-05 03:32:10 PM

Well I use Mac/Linux...: A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad. A farking moron would do that.


Not everything is relative. A person can be a genius actor and fully worthy of praise for being so, and at the same time be a drug addict.

Though I'm sure you probably find it much easier to live in a world where you can dismiss a person's entire existence and any contributions they made based off of a single event in their life.
 
2014-02-05 03:49:11 PM

bratface: way south: scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win

People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.

How about blaming the 'person' responsible? Mr. Hoffman is responsible. Yes I have read how addictive heroin is and realize it is really hard to 'kick' the habit but bottom line the only person responsible here is Mr. Hoffman.



Just because Mr. Hoffman left his home to buy drugs for himself, returning to his home with the intent to use drugs on himself, then himself measured and used an incorrect dosage of said drugs when injecting them into his own arm, does not mean he is the only one responsible for his drug addiction, his misuse of drugs, and his subsequent death.

Rest assured the other guilty parties will be brought to trial.

/The era of personal responsibility came to a close when we decided to have a billion dollar drug war over other peoples bad habits.
 
2014-02-05 03:59:29 PM
Somehow Andy Dick is involved, I don't know how, but he is.
 
2014-02-05 04:17:22 PM

Schmoppo: Whodat: So if we are to excuse away his drug use, shouldn't we excuse away the providers? Seems only fair.

They are only being looked at because he's a celebrity.
I had a friend who, after 7 years of sobriety, thought he could have 1 more shot, and it killed him. $10 worth. I told the police who showed up exactly who sold it to him and their response was, "He was an adult, there's nothing we can do."


Which is they way it should be. If someone goes to a liquor store and buys a bunch of high-proof alcohol which they drink way too much of resulting in their death, do we prosecute the liquor store owner or the cashier who processed the transaction or the alcohol manufacturer?
 
2014-02-05 04:17:49 PM
Well I use Mac/Linux...:

Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.

Which is almost exactly the opposite of the truth, but thanks for spraying your ill-informed opinion on this thread like a coked out Ron Jeremy.


http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-scientific-fundamentalist/20 10 10/why-intelligent-people-use-more-drugs
 
2014-02-05 04:34:47 PM

way south: Rest assured the other guilty parties will be brought to trial.


There are no other guilty parties. Some guys got arrested for having involvement and they will be released without being charged or any charges will be dropped. He was an adult, no one forced him to inject hard drugs.
 
2014-02-05 04:40:44 PM

Quaker: Schmoppo: Whodat: So if we are to excuse away his drug use, shouldn't we excuse away the providers? Seems only fair.

They are only being looked at because he's a celebrity.
I had a friend who, after 7 years of sobriety, thought he could have 1 more shot, and it killed him. $10 worth. I told the police who showed up exactly who sold it to him and their response was, "He was an adult, there's nothing we can do."

Which is they way it should be. If someone goes to a liquor store and buys a bunch of high-proof alcohol which they drink way too much of resulting in their death, do we prosecute the liquor store owner or the cashier who processed the transaction or the alcohol manufacturer?


I get your point, however, in the case I was making at the time I was pretty much asking them to go pick him up before I decide to do something far more violent to him. He was actually a friend at one time and should have known better than to give dope to a person with 7 years under their belt. He's still on my shiat list.
 
2014-02-05 05:14:46 PM

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


I really don't give a shiat about someone killing somone named Hoffman either.

Is it sad. Yes.

Is it tragic. fark no.
 
2014-02-05 06:28:37 PM

someonelse: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.

Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.

It must be very easy to be you. I would imagine it's comforting to live within such a simple template.


A stupid decision does not necessarily make that person stupid. It's just that this decision had the consequence of addiction as opposed to lighter consequences from other dumb decisions. He made a bad decision and paid the ultimate consequence.
 
2014-02-05 07:24:10 PM

Quaker: Schmoppo: Whodat: So if we are to excuse away his drug use, shouldn't we excuse away the providers? Seems only fair.

They are only being looked at because he's a celebrity.
I had a friend who, after 7 years of sobriety, thought he could have 1 more shot, and it killed him. $10 worth. I told the police who showed up exactly who sold it to him and their response was, "He was an adult, there's nothing we can do."

Which is they way it should be. If someone goes to a liquor store and buys a bunch of high-proof alcohol which they drink way too much of resulting in their death, do we prosecute the liquor store owner or the cashier who processed the transaction or the alcohol manufacturer?


This.

He was an adult. He chose to use the drug, even though he was undoubtedly aware it was illegal and that it might possibly result in his death. His choice. The seller wouldn't exist if the demand wasn't there in the first place.

I can't see the point in demonising the seller when the buyer gets no blame. Demonise either both, or neither.
 
2014-02-05 08:59:52 PM

scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win


By who?
 
2014-02-05 09:18:15 PM

natas6.0: heroin is one of those self-fixing problems

I would like to start a free dirty needle program to help speed up the darwinism


Yeah, all those articles recently about the uptick in OD's thanks to Fentanyl-laced heroin had me thinking "so why weren't people adding fentanyl to it SOONER?".  Not really seeing the issue when people are committing suicide by needle.
 
2014-02-05 11:19:20 PM

EnormousGreenRageMonster: natas6.0: heroin is one of those self-fixing problems

I would like to start a free dirty needle program to help speed up the darwinism

Yeah, all those articles recently about the uptick in OD's thanks to Fentanyl-laced heroin had me thinking "so why weren't people adding fentanyl to it SOONER?".  Not really seeing the issue when people are committing suicide by needle.


I guess you two arent into the arts, like music, literature, painting etc...
 
2014-02-05 11:45:14 PM

EnormousGreenRageMonster: natas6.0: heroin is one of those self-fixing problems

I would like to start a free dirty needle program to help speed up the darwinism

Yeah, all those articles recently about the uptick in OD's thanks to Fentanyl-laced heroin had me thinking "so why weren't people adding fentanyl to it SOONER?".  Not really seeing the issue when people are committing suicide by needle.


I hope both of you assholes get hit by a bus.
 
2014-02-06 12:24:11 AM
fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net
 
2014-02-06 10:04:00 AM
yea, in America its a tragedy when one of their own(ers) OD's.

when one of the Beautiful People goes, everyone is concerned.  everyone in the big business owned news media, anyway.

they didn't give two sh*ts about Hoffman when he was alive, unless they can make a dollar and a cent off of him.

the rest of you can Fark off.
 
2014-02-06 10:05:09 AM
Bring those 4 dealers to Justice: JustUs rich folks.
 
2014-02-06 10:05:47 AM

Ooba Tooba: The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die



as long as you pay his ass.  ain't Capitalism great!
 
2014-02-06 10:06:35 AM
oh, i forgot to mention: Drugs are harmless.
 
2014-02-06 12:00:13 PM

Joe Peanut: Meh.

I once brought my bike into the wine shop at the corner of 70th & Amsterdam.  Left the bike in the little mud room by the cashiers, grabbed the bottle I wanted, and when i turned around, bike was gone. People from the shop pretended I was invisible when I asked if they saw anything or if we could look at their security cameras' videos.  So I called the local precinct.  They told me they were sending an unit. 30 minutes later, and nobody showing up, I waved the next police car that drove by.  When I explained what had happened, cop takes a deep breath, looks at me straight in the eye, then asks "and what the fark do you want me to do about it?", then drives off.


Ehrlich's?
 
2014-02-06 12:33:43 PM

bratface: Joe Peanut: Meh.

I once brought my bike into the wine shop at the corner of 70th & Amsterdam.  Left the bike in the little mud room by the cashiers, grabbed the bottle I wanted, and when i turned around, bike was gone. People from the shop pretended I was invisible when I asked if they saw anything or if we could look at their security cameras' videos.  So I called the local precinct.  They told me they were sending an unit. 30 minutes later, and nobody showing up, I waved the next police car that drove by.  When I explained what had happened, cop takes a deep breath, looks at me straight in the eye, then asks "and what the fark do you want me to do about it?", then drives off.

Ehrlich's?


Yup.  Never went back after that.  Was a long time customer, and they treated me like crap when my bike was stolen inside their store.  Bacchus on Broadway & 71st was better anyways, and after they closed, I started to got to 67 Wine.  A longer walk, but worth it if it means not giving my business to Ehrlich's.
 
2014-02-06 03:11:27 PM

Mazzic518: EnormousGreenRageMonster: natas6.0: heroin is one of those self-fixing problems

I would like to start a free dirty needle program to help speed up the darwinism

Yeah, all those articles recently about the uptick in OD's thanks to Fentanyl-laced heroin had me thinking "so why weren't people adding fentanyl to it SOONER?".  Not really seeing the issue when people are committing suicide by needle.

I hope both of you assholes get hit by a bus.


Because I don't see the point in mourning when idiots kill themselves by doing stupid things?
 
2014-02-06 05:43:20 PM

EnormousGreenRageMonster: Mazzic518: EnormousGreenRageMonster: natas6.0:

...

Because I don't see the point in mourning when idiots kill themselves by doing stupid things?


But.. but... but... OBVIOUSLY it was the dealers' faults zomg because we're supposed to blame someone else if it's a celebrity and never the celebrity themself. Didn't you get the memo?
 
2014-02-06 08:28:15 PM

magicgoo: EnormousGreenRageMonster: Mazzic518: EnormousGreenRageMonster: natas6.0:

...

Because I don't see the point in mourning when idiots kill themselves by doing stupid things?

But.. but... but... OBVIOUSLY it was the dealers' faults zomg because we're supposed to blame someone else if it's a celebrity and never the celebrity themself. Didn't you get the memo?


A bus for you too.
 
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