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(CNN)   Showing the speed and efficiency the NYPD is known for when confronted with any OD death in their city, four arrests made linked to Phillip Seymour Hoffman's heroin stash   (cnn.com) divider line 113
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2014-02-05 06:55:52 AM  
ProTip: Don't sell drugs to celebrities.
 
2014-02-05 07:00:15 AM  
Wasn't me.

I wasn't even in NYC last week.
 
2014-02-05 07:16:24 AM  
Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win
 
2014-02-05 07:16:38 AM  
They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron
 
2014-02-05 07:18:01 AM  
The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die
 
2014-02-05 07:23:36 AM  

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


Pretty much this.
 
2014-02-05 07:24:26 AM  

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


FTFY
 
2014-02-05 07:26:55 AM  

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron


Yep. Or is subby implying that we're supposed to be mad that smack dealers get arrested?
 
2014-02-05 07:30:43 AM  

stoli n coke: styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron

Yep. Or is subby implying that we're supposed to be mad that smack dealers get arrested?


Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. This junkie Farker should out themselves.
 
2014-02-05 07:31:56 AM  
jetsnation.ca
I can't believe I read all of that.
 
2014-02-05 07:32:28 AM  

scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win


People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.
 
2014-02-05 07:38:49 AM  

way south: scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win

People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.



Doubtful the arrests were random. Hoffman was rich, and either he or more likely his assistant probably had his dealer's cell and home phone number on file. After he died, the assistant doesn't want to go to jail on a negligent homicide charge for getting him the drugs, so the assistant gives up the numbers and the name of the dealer.

Not rocket surgery, people.
 
2014-02-05 07:46:59 AM  

TheHighlandHowler: ProTip: Don't sell drugs to celebrities.


They had two days notice that there was a video of them handing a messenger bag to SPH. Assuming that the people arrested are those in the vid.... And that they got caught with more than 300 bags if heroin....

Pro tip: dispose of or have someone hold or hide your heroin and lay low if you know the cops have you on video and are closing on you.
 
2014-02-05 07:47:07 AM  
Some of us are more equal than others
 
2014-02-05 07:50:33 AM  

stirfrybry: Some of us are more equal than others


Wow, way to notice.  I think it's only been that way since the beginning of mankind.  Why would anyone be surprised by this?
 
2014-02-05 07:58:53 AM  

stirfrybry: Some of us are more equal than others


So what is your solution? Not arrest anyone in this case until everything is all fairsees?

BTW, police arrest dealers all the time. They just don't make national news unless they're either someone at the top of the drug trade or they're connected to a high-profile person.
 
2014-02-05 07:59:44 AM  
He died doing what he loved.
 
2014-02-05 08:01:58 AM  
I've seen the needle and the damage done.
 
2014-02-05 08:09:46 AM  
The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.

It looks to me like a ban is an exercise in utter futility.
 
2014-02-05 08:11:58 AM  
heroin is one of those self-fixing problems

I would like to start a free dirty needle program to help speed up the darwinism
 
2014-02-05 08:22:19 AM  
Too much horse power to handle.
 
2014-02-05 08:24:29 AM  

Ooba Tooba: The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die


Goddamn! I said Goddamn the pusher man...
 
2014-02-05 08:26:35 AM  

Wolf892: Heroin is bad, but if you add an "e" to the end you get "heroine" which is good, unless that heroine is Kristen Stewart...which is bad.


But it comes with a free frogurt.
 
2014-02-05 08:33:36 AM  
Leads? Yeah, I guess they had their best detectives on it. They got them working in shifts.

/yes they arrest dealers all the time...they'd hardly be searching for these guys if some no name had offed themselves
 
2014-02-05 08:51:39 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.

It looks to me like a ban is an exercise in utter futility.


I think you mean opiates, which is a slightly easier argument to make.  Tons of things are opiods, including Immodium.  Yes, Immodium, the thing you take to stop the runs, is an opiod.  Don't really hear about much Immodium abuse now do you?

It's still pants on head retarded though, because without morphine and its wonderful relatives recovery from surgery is literally torture.  Also if opiates were banned, anyone who has ever had a kidney stone would probably band together in one groaning group hobbling along with torches and pitchforks and destroy the DEA as a whole.  Seriously, try getting through that kind of pain without an opiate in your system; not gonna happen.
 
2014-02-05 08:59:20 AM  
I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.
 
2014-02-05 09:04:40 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.


Well of course they did.  With weed on the way to legalization they have to do *something* to justify their jobs.
 
2014-02-05 09:10:03 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.


I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.
 
2014-02-05 09:11:13 AM  

ristst: Marcus Aurelius: The DEA was on NPR yesterday explaining how all opioids must be banned and to hell with your pain.

Well of course they did.  With weed on the way to legalization they have to do *something* to justify their jobs.


Hey, there's always meth. Always.
 
2014-02-05 09:11:59 AM  

Ooba Tooba: The Pusher don't care if you live or if you die


Heh....what a 60s term...!

I recall in 1970, TV Guide (yes, TV Guide!) ran an article "How to recognize a drug addict", with an illustration of a long-haired addict.  It had pointers indicating the telling attributes...sunglasses at night, long sleeves in warm weather (to hide needle tracks), things like that.

/was in a band that did a gig with Steppenwolf in a large club in Tennessee.
//Goldie McJohn was toasted.  And his girlfriend was flirting around the room, so he got on the mic and yelled "hey if anybody wants to get laid, my girlfriend is lookin' for some DIIIIIIIIIICK!"
 
2014-02-05 09:12:15 AM  
He was a millionaire in (what should have been) the prime of his life.He had it all. His lovely wife had taken their three young children to the park on a nice day.

Instead of joining them and giving his kids the memory of dad pushing them on the swings, he decided to leave them with the memory of that day being getting the news that their dads bloated corpse had been found sitting in his own shiat with a needle in his arm.

Fark that selfish piece of shiat.
 
2014-02-05 09:16:51 AM  
Now that they arrested these guys, I am sure the heroin epidemic will come to a quick and sudden halt.
 
2014-02-05 09:18:15 AM  

RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.


Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.
 
2014-02-05 09:18:49 AM  

stoli n coke: Wolf892: Heroin is bad, but if you add an "e" to the end you get "heroine" which is good, unless that heroine is Kristen Stewart...which is bad.

But it comes with a free frogurt.


That's good.
 
2014-02-05 09:19:48 AM  

grunthos: He was a millionaire in (what should have been) the prime of his life.He had it all. His lovely wife had taken their three young children to the park on a nice day.

Instead of joining them and giving his kids the memory of dad pushing them on the swings, he decided to leave them with the memory of that day being getting the news that their dads bloated corpse had been found sitting in his own shiat with a needle in his arm.

Fark that selfish piece of shiat.



He wasn't living with his family anymore. He was supposed to meet them for visitation.
This wasn't an upstanding family man. This was a depressed addict who, after 23 years of sobriety, fell off the wagon, fell hard, and lost everything.
 
2014-02-05 09:20:52 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2014-02-05 09:21:50 AM  

RussianPooper: I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.


I'm not gonna disagree with you, a lot of people that tout their abstinence are judgmental. In reality it's not quite so cut and dry.  People get addicted to nasal spray for cryin' out loud.

Nevertheless, heroin is just one of those things that everyone...*everyone*...knows is incredibly, dangerously addictive.  If a person is using it, they went into that situation fully aware of the risks.

Regardless of the reasons, it's just not a good idea to mess around with the stuff.
 
2014-02-05 09:24:38 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.


Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.
 
2014-02-05 09:38:55 AM  
Some are more equal than others i guess, like the illegal 19yr old drunk driver that got 250 community service for killing 2 kids.... good times.
Equal under the law? I think not.
 
2014-02-05 09:42:05 AM  

lewismarktwo: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.


Lolwut? Other than being ITG what the hell does this even mean?
 
2014-02-05 09:45:34 AM  

lewismarktwo: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

Haha, you think you have free will.  I could have you sucking dick for a fingernail sized lump of cut to shiat Heroin within six months.


No, you couldn't.  Ye Gods!  I didn't realize how dangerous this heroin epidemic was.  It's a miracle that I'm not an addict!  I mean, since it's nobody's fault for doing it, being that we have no free will and all...
 
2014-02-05 09:52:10 AM  

Semper IvXx: Lolwut? Other than being ITG what the hell does this even mean?


In The Groove?
Internet Tough Guy?
It's Too Gruesome?

I even searched the interwebs and got no definitive answer.
 
2014-02-05 09:53:23 AM  

stoli n coke: way south: scotchcrotch: Yet they'd be lambasted if they didnt make arrests.

NYPD cant win

People get frustrated because the system only appears to work if the victim is well shod.
I can understand incompetence if its the constant state of affairs. When its selective, it appears as if its a lot more malicious.

Almost as if the cops don't care about poor people...

/or worse, just grabbed a few random drug dealers so we'd have someone to blame.
/either way its hard to escape the feeling there's alot of corruption involved.


Doubtful the arrests were random. Hoffman was rich, and either he or more likely his assistant probably had his dealer's cell and home phone number on file. After he died, the assistant doesn't want to go to jail on a negligent homicide charge for getting him the drugs, so the assistant gives up the numbers and the name of the dealer.

Not rocket surgery, people.


Good theory, but records have him pulling nearly ~$1200 from multiple ATMs that day (morning before? something.) and on security cameras chatting up certain bike messengers.

From TFA:

"On Tuesday, a law enforcement source told CNN that the night before Hoffman died, he withdrew $1,200 from a grocery store ATM near his apartment.
Hoffman got the money in six transactions Saturday night, according to the source."


Not that I can project that this guy was in any way noble in the process, but he most likely was ashamed of his habit, and didn't put anyone else up to doing his dirty work.

I just don't see him as the narcissist that would send his assistant to fetch for him. This was his personal demon.

I've unfortunately been around drug culture all my life, and the two most wasteful drugs I have ever witnessed in "action" was crack and heroin. Meth is a close 3rd, but it takes its time.

Heroin steals your soul, and takes the brain hostage to its next adventure. I'm not religious in any capacity but if I believed in the Devil, heroin would be his most formidable "magic".
 
2014-02-05 09:54:17 AM  

styckx: T

hey make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron Tyrion
 
2014-02-05 10:10:00 AM  

mcmnky: styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyron Tyrion


I think they do, a Lannister always pays their debts
 
2014-02-05 10:13:56 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.


So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.
 
2014-02-05 10:15:32 AM  

Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.


You should at least be grateful for the fact that you are unable to comprehend what it means to be an addict. That much is clear.
 
2014-02-05 10:29:23 AM  

styckx: They make drug arrests all the time. You just don't hear about it because no one gives a shiat who killed Tyrion


s3.amazonaws.com

Goddamn it! Thanks for spoiling Season 4, asshole

/RIP Halfman
 
2014-02-05 10:37:58 AM  

RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: RussianPooper: Well I use Mac/Linux...: I cant stand all the idolizing of this guy after his OD.  I see him being called a genius everywhere.  A genius wouldn't OD on heroin and leave his kids without a dad.  A farking moron would do that.

I can't stand people who continue to think that people who get addicted do so out of a lack of intelligence. Although it's a nice simple answer for nice simple people.

Yup, I'm the simple one who hasn't killed himself by injecting a lethal substance into his arm. If only I could be as bright as dear old Phil.

So, for the record, in your mind, only stupid people get addicted, but if a smart  person does get addicted, you don't want to be smart because that means you would get addicted. Well, whatever gets you through the day. Reminds me of church logic.


Only a stupid person would try it in the first place, so in a way, yes.  Only stupid people get addicted.
 
2014-02-05 10:42:44 AM  

ristst: Nevertheless, heroin is just one of those things that everyone...*everyone*...knows is incredibly, dangerously addictive. If a person is using it, they went into that situation fully aware of the risks.


Everyone knows that a sedentary lifestyle and a diet of chili cheese fries and pepsi will kill you, too. It's still normal to be sad when it does.
 
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