If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(WESH Orlando)   College decides to re-think its guns-on-campus policy after shooting in parking lot. The change? Now they're gonna let more students have guns in their cars   (wesh.com) divider line 19
    More: Florida, Eastern Florida State College, parking lots, Eastern Florida, guns, colleges  
•       •       •

2900 clicks; posted to Main » on 05 Feb 2014 at 4:55 AM (22 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



Voting Results (Smartest)
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

2014-02-05 05:05:52 AM
3 votes:
Hey Subby, what a brilliant headline to properly illustrate that people shouldn't have guns, not even to defend themselves. Allow me to respond in kind, for your stunning and witty headline.

24.media.tumblr.com

images.rapgenius.com
2014-02-04 11:46:17 PM
3 votes:
I'm by no means particularly pro-gun, but that's some seriously troll-tastic headline writing, subby.

Have a gun locked in your car /= "Carry a gun on campus"

A student defending themselves against an attacker /= simply "Getting shot"
2014-02-05 07:17:55 AM
2 votes:
This unerringly accurate headline has me outraged.  Outraged, I tell you.

I seem to recall years ago when FARK mocked the idiot outrage media machine...from the outside.
2014-02-05 06:31:53 AM
2 votes:
Has anyone mentioned subby is a f'ing idiot yet?
...
...
Because subby is a f'ing idiot.
2014-02-05 12:04:53 AM
2 votes:
Learn to read subtard.
2014-02-05 07:39:22 PM
1 votes:

RobSeace: demaL-demaL-yeH: You claim that there was nothing that came before. OK, then, what started this altercation in the parking lot?
Did it randomly spring from the forehead of Zeus?

Two assholes itching to start a fight with someone random? Two assholes who didn't like the look of random guy or his car and started talking shiat about it? Who knows? But, unless you have some evidence, it seems a bit of a stretch to jump to assuming there was history between them...

demaL-demaL-yeH: I didn't say he started the fight.
I said he escalated it, and that's exactly what he did when he chose to get out of his car.

And, again, how do you know he chose to get out rather than, say, being dragged out and beaten?

And, even if he did willingly choose to get out, what makes you think he did it to "escalate" any conflict, rather than try to defuse it? How do you know the conflict was serious enough to make him fearful enough to just drive away at that point? For that matter, how do you know there was any conflict at all at the point he chose to get out? Maybe he got out for some other reason, and that's when the other two decided to attack for whatever reason?

Look, I'm no fan of "shoot 'em all" approaches to conflict resolution, and for instance I think Zimmerman was a massive dick who definitely did bring on the situation himself, but you seem to be just assuming the worst about the shooter here just due to lack of information to the contrary... You may be right, but you have no evidence of that...


Hey, man, it was my brother who got shot, and Farker lame-lame has it right, the shooter was totally asking for it. He drives by us at the Chick-Fil-A in his flashy car, with his fancy college student parking sticker, so we follow him to the school parking lot, where he had the complete nerve to provoke us, by parking his car, and throwing a book bag over his shoulder to "go to classes" (his lying words, not ours), so the smarmy jackass starts walking away after giving us a funny look - I mean, what the hell? You can't disrespect us like that! We weren't some stupid nerd like him, and we deserved respect. RESPECT. That little sonnabiatch was asking for it at that point, carrying on like we's didn't even exist. We dropped outta shcool, but we's gradiated the shcool of hard nocks, right? Ain't nobody disrespecting us without getting the can of woop-ass they deserved.

That little nerd managed to get back to his car and pulled a gun!! If we'd known he had a gun, we'd probably have given tried to gut him a bit more before he got it out. We was just having some fun anyway.

Thanks, dlame. for being our support here. Yous showing us the respect we deserve! Youse know the score, that student wasn't going to classes, and his attitude, and the nerdy clothes he was wearing just provoked and escelated the matter. No different than a sexy chicky walking down the street shaking her ass in some short skirt... you know she wants it, no matter how loud she yells no, amiright, maled?
2014-02-05 01:35:49 PM
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: State courts do not have the ability to nullify 18 USC 922(q). Every challenge to it has failed.


If the shooter held a valid concealed weapons permit issued by the state of Florida, then 18 USC 922(q) would not apply to him at all:

(B) Subparagraph (A) does not apply to the possession of a firearm-
[...]
(ii) if the individual possessing the firearm is licensed to do so by the State in which the school zone is located or a political subdivision of the State, and the law of the State or political subdivision requires that, before an individual obtains such a license, the law enforcement authorities of the State or political subdivision verify that the individual is qualified under law to receive the license;


This, however, is academic. 18 USC 922(q) applies only to primary and secondary education facilities; a university campus is neither. Definitions of 18 USC 922 are provided in 18 USC 921. From those definitions:

(25) The term "school zone" means-
(A) in, or on the grounds of, a public, parochial or private school; or
(B) within a distance of 1,000 feet from the grounds of a public, parochial or private school.
(26) The term "school" means a school which provides elementary or secondary education, as determined under State law.

A university campus does not fit the above definitions, thus the prohibition upon possessing firearms in a "school zone" is not applied on university campuses by 18 USC 922(q).


Please explain, specifically, why an individual who did not demonstrably violate 18 USC 922(q) should be prosecuted.
2014-02-05 01:14:27 PM
1 votes:

demaL-demaL-yeH: Farkage: demaL-demaL-yeH: Dimensio: Doom MD: demaL-demaL-yeH: Farkage: Enlightened Liberal: Wow. How spineless do you have to be to pull out a gun during a fist fight? That guy needs to turn in his man card immediately.

There's no excuse to escalate a fist fight into a shoot out. You're supposed to duke it out mano y mano. If you can't handle it, then don't get into fights.

Most people here would be frothing at the lips if a cop shot an unarmed person because they were besting them in a fist fight.

You're absolutely right!  Everybody should just take it like a man when they're getting kicked and stomped on by multiple attackers since beatings are NEVER EVER LIFE THREATENING!  Right??!?
And you call being attacked "getting into a fight"?  Are you an idiot?  So if someone breaks into a persons place and they get shot, would you tell the homeowner that maybe they just shouldn't be robbed?  Is this your logic??


There is more to this story. Let's unfold the plot a little here:
The trigger was pulled by 24-year-old Landrick Hamilton, a student at EFSC, who was allegedly minding his own business and sitting in his car when another car pulled up next to him. In the other car were two men: Amado Contreras, 25, and his younger brother 24-year old Landyer Contreras.
A verbal spat started between the men, soon escalating to physical violence. Hamilton claims that the two young men physically attacked him. Amado Contreras and his brother are alleged to have assaulted Landrick Hamilton with a pool cue, at which point Hamilton reached into his vehicle and recovered a gun.

So what are the over/unders on significant other v. drugs v. money?

Somebody brought his problems - and pistol - to campus. And you know it won't end up where it stands now.

/Prosecute 'em all.

Where is your evidence to prosecute?

He has speculated that a narcotics transfer was arranged. Is not his conjecture sufficient to warrant criminal charges?

That's just demented.
I said the dispute originated off-campus. ...

So tell me, tough guy, what kept him from driving away, say, to the nearest cop shop, instead of getting out of his car and escalating the dispute? They parked beside him, not behind him.
Well?


Tough guy??? Honestly, you just sound more retarded in each of these threads.
So, where did you magically read where he was the one that got out of the car and escalated the dispute? You're not worth wasting time on when you make stuff up.
Good day sir. Better luck on your next trolling attempt.
2014-02-05 10:20:14 AM
1 votes:

violentsalvation: syrynxx: "I saw the guy getting beat down. The gun practically saved his life," said student Rio Gonzalez.

fark you subby.  You'd rather see a person killed than defend themselves?  fark you in triplicate.

And nobody died, but we get to see the attacker tallied as a victim of gun violence and the event remembered as a school shooting. For the charts, the graphs, the numbers. The anti-gun narrative at work.


As was discussed in a redlit posting last week, the shooting was not self-defense, as the shooter actually went to his vehicle to retrieve his firearm, thus making the shooting an act of revenge. As everyone knows, attackers never follow a victim, so the attack must have ended when the firearm was retrieved.
2014-02-05 09:43:20 AM
1 votes:

way south: /A ten inch barrel on a rifle is kind of stupid when you can have a three inch barrel on the same rifle if you call it a "pistol" on the receipt.


Um, no.

What makes it a SBR is the addition of a shoulder stock.   If you duct-tape a stick to the handle of a pistol, you're guilty of manufacturing a SBR.   Simply putting a foregrip handle on an under-barrel picatinny rail makes it an AOW, also an NFA item.

I agree that the SBR and AOW designations are kind of stupid.  And probably unconstitutional under both US v. Miller and DC v. Heller.   The M4 is a SBR and is the current standard issue service rifle, which means it passes both the Miller criteria for being appropriate for militia service, and the Heller criteria for being in common use.
2014-02-05 07:58:56 AM
1 votes:
I have nothing meaningful to contribute to this conversation, so I offer schoolgirls with guns
amytofte.files.wordpress.com
moviechopshop.com
fc02.deviantart.net
www.businesspundit.comfc01.deviantart.net
2014-02-05 07:42:24 AM
1 votes:

Enlightened Liberal: Wow. How spineless do you have to be to pull out a gun during a fist fight? That guy needs to turn in his man card immediately.

There's no excuse to escalate a fist fight into a shoot out. You're supposed to duke it out mano y mano. If you can't handle it, then don't get into fights.

Most people here would be frothing at the lips if a cop shot an unarmed person because they were besting them in a fist fight.


Wow.  What the fark are they teaching you kids these days about trolling?  Your teachers should be ashamed.  Probably union teachers in public school, right?

0/10
2014-02-05 07:40:27 AM
1 votes:

jso2897: Farkage: dittybopper: jso2897: AngryDragon: Subtard must be right.

According to the anti-gun Fark brigade, firearms are never used in self-defense, only to kill babies if left unattended.  Alternatively they may leap from their holsters and gun down innocent passerby, as obviously happened in this case.

This is one of those Fark topics where we have two, alternative, equally hallucinatory realities engaged in some sort of duel for domination of the fantasy landscape.
While I may occasionally attempt to annoy people with an uncomfortable observation or inappropriate joke, I find it's better to stay clear of it. It's a no-win debate.
Frankly, people who are passionate about this, either way, tend to be shallow, and to bore me quickly - let's face it - this is a dead horse, and if you can't smell it, there's something wrong with your nose.

It's a dead horse because the pro-rights side has won, and mostly, continues to win.

Fortunately.

Well, that's my point - 97% of this argument is about stuff whose chance of actually changing is vanishingly small.


can we start working on the illegal Hughes Amendment then?
2014-02-05 06:47:37 AM
1 votes:

dittybopper: jso2897: AngryDragon: Subtard must be right.

According to the anti-gun Fark brigade, firearms are never used in self-defense, only to kill babies if left unattended.  Alternatively they may leap from their holsters and gun down innocent passerby, as obviously happened in this case.

This is one of those Fark topics where we have two, alternative, equally hallucinatory realities engaged in some sort of duel for domination of the fantasy landscape.
While I may occasionally attempt to annoy people with an uncomfortable observation or inappropriate joke, I find it's better to stay clear of it. It's a no-win debate.
Frankly, people who are passionate about this, either way, tend to be shallow, and to bore me quickly - let's face it - this is a dead horse, and if you can't smell it, there's something wrong with your nose.

It's a dead horse because the pro-rights side has won, and mostly, continues to win.


Fortunately.
2014-02-05 06:06:25 AM
1 votes:
I keep a gun in my car's center console at all times. Even if I'm breaking the law to do it. Fark the law.
2014-02-05 05:56:18 AM
1 votes:
That`s America!

After a shooting in the car park the college has decided to allow more guns into the car park in the hopes it could happen again, hopefully with a fatality next time.

Obviously SUBTARD is pro-gun and is operating some form of double troll. Or just a troll. Nobody could be so stupid in real life as to twist TFA in that headline.

I think both sides of the debate can join together in united derision of SUBBY.
2014-02-05 05:45:11 AM
1 votes:
Subtard must be right.

According to the anti-gun Fark brigade, firearms are never used in self-defense, only to kill babies if left unattended.  Alternatively they may leap from their holsters and gun down innocent passerby, as obviously happened in this case.
2014-02-05 05:24:12 AM
1 votes:
Um, the school is changing its policy to  allow guns in cars, subby.

Following an  unarguably legitimate self-defensive shooting in a parking lot, where someone saved their own life/health when attacked.

... though they're mostly doing it because the state recently informed them definitively that they  cannot legally ban guns in cars on parking lots, and that it's always legal to leave your gun in your own car no matter what and any lawsuits related to the university trying to kick someone over it would be an automatic judgement against the institution in the future.


Basically, you seem to have the story exactly backwards there.
2014-02-05 05:22:00 AM
1 votes:
Personally, I'm against this rampant anti-pool cue hysteria.

Having said that, we got trouble right here in River City; trouble that starts with 'T' that rhymes with 'P' that stands for 'Pool.'
Oh yes, we got trouble.
 
Displayed 19 of 19 comments

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »






Report