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(Comics Alliance)   The French add Bill Watterson to their Jerry Lewis collection of beloved American entertainment idols   (comicsalliance.com) divider line 64
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2014-02-04 08:33:04 PM  
Don't get too excited, they will only rescind it in a couple years in a flurry of cartooning while doping allegations.
 
2014-02-04 08:39:56 PM  
Surprising? I think you mean surpassing.
 
2014-02-04 10:58:19 PM  
He probably threatened them with snow goons
 
2014-02-04 11:14:38 PM  

OtherBrotherDarryl: Surprising? I think you mean surpassing.


It's a seemingly daunting tradition to uphold for the famously private Watterson to uphold.
 
2014-02-05 12:30:33 AM  
Either way, fark yes!
 
2014-02-05 01:01:30 AM  
Winner is chosen by past recipients, with the latest meant to serve as president of the next year's jury

Not just an award, but now you gotta show up next year and help pick the next winner. Sounds like a lot of work, frankly. Do you have to shovel their driveway if it snows as well?

Jeez. Just hand me my trophy, applaud, and maybe I'll make a speech before I go back home...
 
2014-02-05 01:21:04 AM  

Candygram4Mongo: Winner is chosen by past recipients, with the latest meant to serve as president of the next year's jury

Not just an award, but now you gotta show up next year and help pick the next winner. Sounds like a lot of work, frankly. Do you have to shovel their driveway if it snows as well?

Jeez. Just hand me my trophy, applaud, and maybe I'll make a speech before I go back home...


Wow, people will really go out of their way to pull him out from his well-deserved retirement and back into the public light. Leave the guy alone, it's the best way to thank him for his awesome comic strips.
 
2014-02-05 01:47:12 AM  
I'm OK with this.

Law & Order was a pretty good show.
 
2014-02-05 01:55:55 AM  

jaytkay: I'm OK with this.

Law & Order was a pretty good show.


I loved him in the "Robot Insurance" commercial.
 
2014-02-05 02:34:32 AM  
Every time I look back at the old Calvin and Hobbes strips I'm impressed anew by Watterson's talent. The art work and the writing is superb. He is one of the greats.
 
2014-02-05 02:41:01 AM  

red5ish: Every time I look back at the old Calvin and Hobbes strips I'm impressed anew by Watterson's talent. The art work and the writing is superb. He is one of the greats.


He is. And an amazing water color artist to boot.
 
2014-02-05 02:56:18 AM  
I read Calvin and Hobbes from the day it debuted in the funny section.

Does anyone know what Watterson is doing now?
 
2014-02-05 03:04:44 AM  

Nogale: I read Calvin and Hobbes from the day it debuted in the funny section.

Does anyone know what Watterson is doing now?


If it were me, I'd be trolling message boards with 'fake' strips.
 
2014-02-05 03:52:02 AM  

Nogale: I read Calvin and Hobbes from the day it debuted in the funny section.

Does anyone know what Watterson is doing now?


I understand that he likes to spend his time pissing on various truck manufacturers' logos for some reason.
 
2014-02-05 04:29:54 AM  
Wait, a European country liked something from America that's actually good?
 
2014-02-05 04:52:53 AM  

Candygram4Mongo: Winner is chosen by past recipients, with the latest meant to serve as president of the next year's jury

Not just an award, but now you gotta show up next year and help pick the next winner. Sounds like a lot of work, frankly. Do you have to shovel their driveway if it snows as well?

Jeez. Just hand me my trophy, applaud, and maybe I'll make a speech before I go back home...


You're missing the part where you're put up at a five-star hotel in France for a week, along with other perks.  People fight to get on the jury at Cannes, because you get two weeks, all expenses paid, in Cannes in the middle of the winter.

/I'd show up to the opening of a supermarket in France for airfair and three days at a hotel in Paris.
 
2014-02-05 05:07:41 AM  
Is the comics industry, even internationally, really big enough to justify giving out lifetime achievement awards every year, rather than restricting it to running series or shorts from the previous year?

Especially if you're setting the bar at Watterson.  I mean, he's on a level with Georges Remi and Charles Schulz.  And note that even finding other examples of people of comparable influence already ended up being a list of people that aren't alive anymore.  That's a lot of "where do you go from there?" with this award.

Also, this:

Shadowtag: Wait, a European country liked something from America that's actually good?


Normally the only things that go international are terrible, like how Katy Perry still has like 3 top-40 singles on the world charts right now or how Justin Beiber is literally Canada's most famous person.

// Or how the "official" beer of Australia for international purposes is Fosters, and the international representative example of Japan's animated TV industry is the Pokemon show.  The list goes on basically forever.
 
2014-02-05 05:39:46 AM  
I hope they have a "Plan B" when he doesn't show up to preside...

Bill Watterson is fairly consistent with his non-participation.
 
2014-02-05 05:56:19 AM  
No love for Family Circus?

childhoodrelived.files.wordpress.com
 
2014-02-05 05:57:44 AM  
 
2014-02-05 06:00:43 AM  

Gordon Bennett: Nogale: I read Calvin and Hobbes from the day it debuted in the funny section.

Does anyone know what Watterson is doing now?

I understand that he likes to spend his time pissing on various truck manufacturers' logos for some reason.


Q: Owing to spite or just a foul mood, have you ever peeled one of those stupid Calvin stickers off of a pickup truck?
Watterson: I figure that, long after the strip is forgotten, those decals are my ticket to immortality.
 
2014-02-05 06:40:21 AM  
If the French foul up Calvin and Hobbes....
Crap.  It has become "when the French foul up..."
 
2014-02-05 07:41:39 AM  

Laobaojun: If the French foul up Calvin and Hobbes....
Crap.  It has become "when the French foul up..."


Well, there's a match-head-sized stain of coffee on my complete Calvin and Hobbes book two.
Dunno what the other french guys and gals have done with theirs though.
 
2014-02-05 08:11:02 AM  
The French do not deserve Calvin and Hobbes
 
2014-02-05 08:56:51 AM  

Mugato: No love for Family Circus?

[childhoodrelived.files.wordpress.com image 110x130]


Not sure if serious.
 
2014-02-05 09:06:01 AM  

Candygram4Mongo: Winner is chosen by past recipients, with the latest meant to serve as president of the next year's jury

Not just an award, but now you gotta show up next year and help pick the next winner. Sounds like a lot of work, frankly. Do you have to shovel their driveway if it snows as well?


i203.photobucket.com
 
2014-02-05 09:31:37 AM  

Weatherkiss: Candygram4Mongo: Winner is chosen by past recipients, with the latest meant to serve as president of the next year's jury

Not just an award, but now you gotta show up next year and help pick the next winner. Sounds like a lot of work, frankly. Do you have to shovel their driveway if it snows as well?

Jeez. Just hand me my trophy, applaud, and maybe I'll make a speech before I go back home...

Wow, people will really go out of their way to pull him out from his well-deserved retirement and back into the public light. Leave the guy alone, it's the best way to thank him for his awesome comic strips.


THIS.

People of my generation just can't let ANYTHING go.
 
2014-02-05 09:37:08 AM  

Orgasmatron138: People of my generation just can't let ANYTHING go.


not the point.

point is that while I credit Bill for not selling out and pimping Calvin to the gills, I really would have liked some goddamned official merch.  He ain't against selling stuff, as the multiple book collections show.

You know what time it is?  Time for Bill to dust Calvin and Hobbes off and create the cartoon series we have always wanted.  He would not have to compromise his vision at this point.
 
2014-02-05 09:43:50 AM  

frepnog: Orgasmatron138: People of my generation just can't let ANYTHING go.

not the point.

point is that while I credit Bill for not selling out and pimping Calvin to the gills, I really would have liked some goddamned official merch.  He ain't against selling stuff, as the multiple book collections show.

You know what time it is?  Time for Bill to dust Calvin and Hobbes off and create the cartoon series we have always wanted.  He would not have to compromise his vision at this point.


So...you are mad because you can't buy some toys? Are you 12?

Also, the notion that he wouldn't have to compromise with the producers of a cartoon series is unbelievably naive. Writers have essentially ZERO input on films.
 
2014-02-05 09:56:49 AM  

realmolo: So...you are mad because you can't buy some toys? Are you 12?

Also, the notion that he wouldn't have to compromise with the producers of a cartoon series is unbelievably naive. Writers have essentially ZERO input on films.


jesus fark.

no.  I am mad that the only Calvin merch out there is FAKE.  As far as being 12 - fark you.  C&H are timeless and yes, I'd love an officially licensed Hobbes to sit on my desk, a version that paid Bill. And Bill is more than a writer.  At this point he could farking KICKSTART a show, do it his way, and it would be AMAZING.

Look at it this way - this right here exists

upload.wikimedia.org

It is true to the source, true to the art, and is farking great.  At my house it is a christmas tradition.

All I really want is ONE special.  Doesn't have to be a series.  A christmas or winter special with the snowmen would be fantastic, and if you don't think so, your inner child is DEAD.
 
2014-02-05 10:27:29 AM  
realmolo:

Also, the notion that he wouldn't have to compromise with the producers of a cartoon series is unbelievably naive. Writers have essentially ZERO input on films.

i1.ytimg.com

"Lights please.
And Charles Shultz said "This is how it's going to be done"."
 
2014-02-05 10:42:15 AM  
accidental-historian.typepad.com

I'm surprised they would accept such a vapid and juvenile artwork to immortalize.
 
2014-02-05 11:40:15 AM  

Dwight_Yeast: I'd show up to the opening of a supermarket in France for airfair and three days at a hotel in Paris.


you can find plenty of homeless people to frown at you and smell like piss for free
 
2014-02-05 12:06:06 PM  

frepnog: realmolo: So...you are mad because you can't buy some toys? Are you 12?

Also, the notion that he wouldn't have to compromise with the producers of a cartoon series is unbelievably naive. Writers have essentially ZERO input on films.

jesus fark.

no.  I am mad that the only Calvin merch out there is FAKE.  As far as being 12 - fark you.  C&H are timeless and yes, I'd love an officially licensed Hobbes to sit on my desk, a version that paid Bill. And Bill is more than a writer.  At this point he could farking KICKSTART a show, do it his way, and it would be AMAZING.

Look at it this way - this right here exists

[upload.wikimedia.org image 220x315]

It is true to the source, true to the art, and is farking great.  At my house it is a christmas tradition.

All I really want is ONE special.  Doesn't have to be a series.  A christmas or winter special with the snowmen would be fantastic, and if you don't think so, your inner child is DEAD.


It was a comic.  He wanted it to be a comic.  He gained enough control that he could determine its destiny.  He owns it, and its future belongs to him.  He didn't really want merchandising.  He didn't want an animator to put a voice to Hobbes, or stuffed animal versions of Hobbes in stores.  He didn't want it on greeting cards, or in cartoons.  That's not what it is, and it's not what he wanted.

And you know what?  He gets to decide that.  For once in this over-merchandised world, we have something special, simple, and awesome.  It wasn't pimped out, diluted by committee, sold to be manufactured in China and filled by lead paint and marked up to children so Hasbro could make a killing in the fourth quarter numbers.  CBS didn't get to run something in a 26.5 minute time slot with four scheduled commercial breaks and put on a region specific DVD sold for $25 every holiday and used to boost the 8:00 time slot each holiday run.

It ended exactly where he wanted it to end, exactly the way he wanted it to end, on his time line.

Short version - Not Yours.
 
2014-02-05 12:47:28 PM  

Khellendros: Short version - Not Yours.


oh piss off.  I know all that.  I have loved Calvin and Hobbes since its inception.  I have the books, and I respect Bill for not whoring his creation out.

doesn't change that the only merch out there is fake and I'd love a Hobbes but refuse to give money to chinese fakes, I won't buy a sticker, ect.  You don't have to be a sell-out to the man to produce some limited merch that you know people want.  You don't have to sell-out to the man to produce a one off tv special that remains true to the art and characters.  The truth is this, and you know it - Bill is sort of a dick.  He gave us his creation....  and then took it the fark back.  His creation and all, but seriously.  Look at Superman.  What if the creators of what is likely the most popular super hero of all time had simply made a comic for a few years and said "there, now fark you"?  Well, we wouldn't have some damn fine entertainment, that's what.

and let's get real here for a minute.

I love C&H but it is a GODDAMNED COMIC STRIP.  Let's not pretend that it was the most amazing thing ever created in the history of ever.

And that 200 dollar collection puts a stake in the heart of "I won't use C&H simply to make money".  That hardcover thing is the EPITOME of "make something unnecessary to turn a profit".
 
2014-02-05 01:10:37 PM  

Nogale: I read Calvin and Hobbes from the day it debuted in the funny section.

Does anyone know what Watterson is doing now?


Bill Watterson Writes, Illustrates, Shreds New 'Calvin And Hobbes' Strip Each Morning Out Of Spite
 
2014-02-05 01:31:26 PM  

frepnog: I love C&H but it is a GODDAMNED COMIC STRIP.


And there's what you're missing, it seems. It's a comic strip. Not a TV special or a stuffed toy. It's a darned good comic strip, so let it be that. Not everything has to have a TV special and a line of toys at McDonald's. If the guy who made it so great says it wouldn't be as good if he kept writing it or turned it into a TV show, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

I wouldn't mind a Calvin and Hobbes chewing gum, though. Or maybe Chocolate Frosted Sugar Bombs.
 
2014-02-05 01:40:43 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: If the guy who made it so great says it wouldn't be as good if he kept writing it or turned it into a TV show, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.


I don't completely trust creators to do what is best with their creation.

Or have we forgotten this shiat here?

extremelyloudandincrediblybroke.files.wordpress.com

Bill is the creator, and C&H was great, but COME ON.

Like I said...  Bill is kind of a dick.
 
2014-02-05 02:01:45 PM  

frepnog: I May Be Crazy But...: If the guy who made it so great says it wouldn't be as good if he kept writing it or turned it into a TV show, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

I don't completely trust creators to do what is best with their creation.

Or have we forgotten this shiat here?

[extremelyloudandincrediblybroke.files.wordpress.com image 513x768]

Bill is the creator, and C&H was great, but COME ON.

Like I said...  Bill is kind of a dick.


An excellent retort.

I still don't think Bill is a dick. He was apparently always a private person. He had to fight a lot with the people trying to commercialize it. It makes sense to me that he wouldn't want anything to do with all that now that he's retired. I just don't think he owes us more.
 
2014-02-05 02:22:18 PM  

I May Be Crazy But...: frepnog:

I still don't think Bill is a dick. He was apparently always a private person. He had to fight a lot with the people trying to commercialize it. It makes sense to me that he wouldn't want anything to do with all that now that he's retired. I just don't think he owes us more.


He doesn't owe us anything.  C&H is timeless and there are tons of the things.  He did amazing work.

And then like a kid on the playground that gets snotty because someone else kicked his ball, he took his ball and went home and said "SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME".

It's his ball, and he has a right to do with it what he pleases....  but it's kinda of a dick move.

Considering that the popularity of C&H has hardly waned over the years....

Yeah, Bill, you're a dick, and if you want to not be one, give your creation to us.  It stopped being yours alone when you published that first strip and we fell in love.  It wouldn't kill him to put out a limited run of stuffed Hobbes and people would love him for it.  It wouldn't kill him to produce an animated SOMETHING and people would love him for it.  no, we don't need C&H Monopoly, but I'd choke a kitten for a limited edition resin set with figures of the characters that were created with his approval.

People don't love Bill for taking C&H away.  We tolerate it because what he did give us was great.
 
2014-02-05 02:29:32 PM  

frepnog: People don't love Bill for taking C&H away.  We tolerate it because what he did give us was great.


Yeah, I guess you're right.
 
2014-02-05 02:48:50 PM  

frepnog: I May Be Crazy But...: frepnog:

I still don't think Bill is a dick. He was apparently always a private person. He had to fight a lot with the people trying to commercialize it. It makes sense to me that he wouldn't want anything to do with all that now that he's retired. I just don't think he owes us more.

He doesn't owe us anything.  C&H is timeless and there are tons of the things.  He did amazing work.

And then like a kid on the playground that gets snotty because someone else kicked his ball, he took his ball and went home and said "SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME".

It's his ball, and he has a right to do with it what he pleases....  but it's kinda of a dick move.

Considering that the popularity of C&H has hardly waned over the years....

Yeah, Bill, you're a dick, and if you want to not be one, give your creation to us.  It stopped being yours alone when you published that first strip and we fell in love.  It wouldn't kill him to put out a limited run of stuffed Hobbes and people would love him for it.  It wouldn't kill him to produce an animated SOMETHING and people would love him for it.  no, we don't need C&H Monopoly, but I'd choke a kitten for a limited edition resin set with figures of the characters that were created with his approval.

People don't love Bill for taking C&H away.  We tolerate it because what he did give us was great.


The problem is, Bill made it look easy. Hemingway made it look easy, till one day he said "the words won't come anymore" and blew his brains out. Michael Jackson was cajoled into attempting one more concert tour. That didn't end particularly well either.

Bill Watterson is a genius who recognizes his limits. No matter what he does, someone will always say, "if you weren't a dick, you'd do more." Because he makes it look easy.

Trust me: It's never easy.
 
2014-02-05 03:55:24 PM  

frepnog: Khellendros: Short version - Not Yours.

oh piss off.  I know all that.  I have loved Calvin and Hobbes since its inception.  I have the books, and I respect Bill for not whoring his creation out.

doesn't change that the only merch out there is fake and I'd love a Hobbes but refuse to give money to chinese fakes, I won't buy a sticker, ect.  You don't have to be a sell-out to the man to produce some limited merch that you know people want.  You don't have to sell-out to the man to produce a one off tv special that remains true to the art and characters.  The truth is this, and you know it - Bill is sort of a dick.  He gave us his creation....  and then took it the fark back.  His creation and all, but seriously.  Look at Superman.  What if the creators of what is likely the most popular super hero of all time had simply made a comic for a few years and said "there, now fark you"?  Well, we wouldn't have some damn fine entertainment, that's what.

and let's get real here for a minute.

I love C&H but it is a GODDAMNED COMIC STRIP.  Let's not pretend that it was the most amazing thing ever created in the history of ever.

And that 200 dollar collection puts a stake in the heart of "I won't use C&H simply to make money".  That hardcover thing is the EPITOME of "make something unnecessary to turn a profit".


See, and that's where you seem to be disconnected with what happened.  Sure, you "know all of this", but somehow think you should own merchandise revolving around C&H.  Why do you think you should?  You're not entitled to it.  You don't deserve it for any reason.  A musician isn't somehow morally required to crank out music videos, tshirts, and memory books with concert pictures.  The artists that do that are attached to major labels that make them do that, and are looking for cash.  They mix their art with the business machine to make their own business empires.  Branding, merchandise, etc.  It's not art, it's a marketable product.

Watterson wasn't creating a product like Peanuts or Transformers. He was creating art to make personal points about creativity, childhood, and imagination.  All he wanted was creative control, and enough money to eat and live.  You want merch?  Buy the books.  You now own everything that ever matters, and ever will matter, about C&H.

I'll be a little over the top here to make a point - Beethoven, Picasso, Thoreau, Monet, Dickens, and Renoir didn't sell bobbleheads.  They didn't sell clothing with their labels or images on them (even the historical equivalent).  They made their art, performed it, distributed it in their intended format, and let it stand.  Watterson wants the same.  Buy the books or reprints of the comics.  That's all there is of C&H.  We get the art, not some productized crap version of it.
 
2014-02-05 04:14:53 PM  

Shadowtag: Wait, a European country liked something from America that's actually good?


France takes comics VERY seriously.  I saw more than a few comic shops in the touristy parts of Paris and Lyon (where I can only imagine the rent can be described as eff-you money).  One of the reasons I visited was to take in a museum show in Lyon about how the French Resistance has been depicted in comics and graphic novels.

They even had a comics/GN shop a few steps from the door of my hotel, which made things very convenient.

/bought the Amour Fragile series, Qui d'Orsay, and Chi: Un Vie de Chat (don't judge)
//wish I'd bought NUTS the gn about the Battle of the Bulge, but the reviews weren't great
 
2014-02-05 04:16:24 PM  
To be honest, the French thought they were voting for dry philosophical debate between two old masters.
 
2014-02-05 04:28:37 PM  
Also, a cartoon giving voice to C&H would kill a little bit of the magic of the strip. All of us have given voices to all the characters in our heads, yet the first time Calvin opens his mouth about setting a tiger trap with a tuna fish sandwich, that's over and this happens:
images.tribe.net

/and it will be voiced by some punk kid who doesn't sound close to what you've always imagined
 
2014-02-05 05:48:12 PM  
img.fark.net
 
2014-02-05 08:43:53 PM  

Drubell: [accidental-historian.typepad.com image 640x200]

I'm surprised they would accept such a vapid and juvenile artwork to immortalize.


We think this is great art too:
ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2014-02-05 09:33:48 PM  
frepnog:

And then like a kid on the playground that gets snotty because someone else kicked his ball, he took his ball and went home and said "SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME".

It's his ball, and he has a right to do with it what he pleases....  but it's kinda of a dick move.


Your analogy is terrible and completely misrepresents everything about the situation.
 
2014-02-05 09:49:33 PM  
Watterson and Larson are sitting at home, emailing new cartoons back and forth to each other.
 
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